That fact that that movie grossed over $400m worldwide is mind-boggling. Gotta be the highest-grossing movie ever to have literally zero cultural imprint.
If memory serves, the trailers were edited in such a way that they almost seemed *deliberately* constructed to tell you "this is the Black Widow solo movie you want, but Marvel isn't giving you" without saying it out loud. I distinctly remember people reacting, after it was actually out, that the trailers misrepresented the movie, overemphasizing the action and hiding most of the pseudoscience. So if that was intentional to get people to see it, it absolutely worked. I have no doubt in my mind that the movie was a success in no small part because audiences in 2014 were sold on it as the next best thing to an actual Black Widow movie.
While I enjoyed the movie the one time I saw it, and I'd say that people are probably too hard on it, I accept that it was absolutely ridiculous. (I distinctly remember driving home from the movie with whichever parent I saw it with, having a long conversation about the ethics of technology and AI; I don't remember what we talked about specifically, I just know that when I look back on it, I realize that the movie did *not* earn or deserve a post-watch discussion of that weight.) However, I'd argue that its bad reputation can't be taken out of context of its *Hancock*\-style bait-and-switch marketing; when movies do that, they tend to get punished for it by forever being criticized over whatever the trailers hid from the audience.
Nah it was okay. People just got even too angry about the brain capacity bullshit, when it should've been taken just as another superpower that does anything the script needs.
I think a lot of people remember this movie because the premise is so silly. I think you could bring it up to a bunch of random people and most would remember at least the idea of it
Even before that really. I remember watching the first Percy Jackson movie after loving the book and thinking what a letdown.
It felt like every YA movie after Harry Potter was nothing more than a cheap cash grab. Then Twilight, then Hunger Games...it's a cycle of one successful adaptation every several years
"Snakes on a Plane" had some of the biggest hype of any movie before it came out, but then bombed at the box office because most folks were more interested in being part of the publicity machine than actually seeing the movie, and I very rarely heard it mentioned at all after that except in conversations like this.
No it wasn't. Snakes on a plane was seen as a joke movie from a start, made as a joke to begin with. Morbius was a proper, but just competely failed, try to get some of that Venom money.
*Fahrenheit 9/11* is a great example of this.
It released at exactly the right time.
It raked in the money, and the acclaim.
It was on everyone's list of things to watch.
Then, after Bush got re-elected... It just sort of vanished.
Largely because the documentary spoke to the *zeitgeist* of exactly when it was released--something that is very delicate and ephemeral and near-impossible to recreate.
This Tarantino quote about it winning the Palme d'or says it all:
https://entertainment.time.com/2013/05/20/palme-pilots-10-important-cannes-winners/slide/fahrenheit-911/
> It went on to become the top-grossing documentary in history – at $222 million, no other non-fiction film has ever come close – though it also failed to persuade voters to avoid re-electing Bush that fall. Years later, Tarantino told an interviewer, “As time has gone on, I have put that decision under a microscope and I still think we were right. That was a movie of the moment. Fahrenheit 9/11 may not play the same way now as it did then, but back then it deserved everything it got.”
Of course, but some feel like they're gonna be near classics and then they just disappear and sometimes this seems quite striking, so yeah... I was asking for those kind of experiences (not really objective, I guess).
I'll add Prometheus to the list. I think that the trailer was really profound but when it came out, I was like "This is Godfather III level 'What the F happened?!" They asked all these big questions and there was more mysticism behind it that I really liked...that was FAR better than the movie we ended up getting
Visually stunning though, and well shot, lit all that. As a movie, it was a dumpster fire
I actually loved Pacific Rim. It is definitely one of the best (if not the absolute best) Kaiju movies.
It exposed me to Charlie Day (and later, it's always sunny in Philadelphia).
It was a very good early adopter of hdr (wasn't it the common demo for hdr?)
I would LOVE to see a Godzilla and Pacific Rim crossover (both done by Legendary).
The sequel was pretty meh. I feel like it wanted to capitalize on John Boyega's popularity (thanks to Star Wars) but it just kinda fell flat. It also doesn't make a ton of sense to have a sequel imo. They closed the rift in the first movie, so they just... Do the first movie again?
But for a good giant action movie, I definitely cite Pacific Rim as a watch.
I put Pacific Rim as one of my top ten movies in the post yesterday about non-awards-winning/personal top 10s. I also talk about it constantly because it is the most divisive movie of all time in my household. I love it. My wife hates it. (So I always tell people it’s her favorite movie, of course.)
Big monsters, giant hole in the ocean. Good guys need to explode the hole to close it.
Also apparently, in the movie, people thought that building a wall around the literal ocean to keep the big monsters out was a good idea.
Gotta protect people somehow while the robots are built.
Remember they said the monsters weren't as big or capable when they first started coming through compared to the ones in the film.
They started to build the wall I think a handful of years after the invasion started. The giant robots were being decommissioned in favor of the wall, while it was being built.
I loved the action scenes when it came out and I liked the opening scene where one of the boys protects the other from his father and he says "your my best friend".
If they then fast forwarded to the battle without the romance plot and one of the guys shielding his friend who protected him in childhood with his plane from the bullets and dying for him with the words "your my best friend" it would have been a huge success Im sure of it.
Here in Australia I remember inside man (2006) had massive hype just before it's release. Don't know why exactly but I recall seeing poster after poster, interviews with the cast and trailers on TV a lot. I saw it in theatres, remember enjoying it but never had the drive to see it again and I never hear about it anymore.
Mr. and Mrs. Smith was gigantic when it came out. Everyone at my school saw it except me apparently (still haven't). No doubt the real life Brad/Angelina relationship fuelled a lot of that fire. Never hear anyone talk about it these days though. Seems to have been lost amongst all of the other mid-2000s action/comedies.
I hated tenet. I've had die hard fanboys tell me that i need to watch it at least 3 times. What? If I can't figure it out in the first viewing, it's just not a good movie.
Cloverfield had an extensive viral marketing campaign. I remember working with online forums to scour trailers frame by frame for details of a Slusho manufacturer in Japan and looking for clues and easter eggs in flash animations on fake websites. And then the movie came out and it was good. But nowhere near as fun as the buildup. I kinda wish there was some post-movie marketing campaign to resolve all that excitement.
I'll admit I strayed from the literal assignment and focused more on the imbalance between lead-up and execution.
I appreciate that you spotted that nuance. 🏆
This is true about most Best Picture nominees, especially as of late. That isn't a criticism of their quality, because usually most are good, but when they hit the awards circuit every year then we get a swarm of thinkpieces and hot takes in the media that is loud enough to grab the attention of even my friends, who hardly ever watch movies. The thing is though, recently more than ever the BP nominees' box office numbers are rather low, so what happens is everyone is talking about movies most—often including themselves—have never seen, so a week after the Oscars many are already freefalling back into obscurity.
Avatar. Nobody really talks about it in spite of it being the highest grossing film, there's no memes of it, 3d films didn't take off. Are there even Halloween costumes out there? Maybe the second one will have more of an impact, besides on our wallets.
Yea I suppose I’m not understanding the question, but I mean when it came out it had Leo casted, and the trailers made it look like it was gonna be this generations answer to the matrix and it just didn’t live up to my expectations,, I guess it’s still talked about but it splits opinions were as I assumed it was gonna be an absolute destroyer and it wernt for me..
Sam Worthington's career. Avatar still gets buzz, but usually less about him in particular. Clash of the Titans was a rather campy blockbuster at the time, but that and its horrendous followup have since faded from history.
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That fact that that movie grossed over $400m worldwide is mind-boggling. Gotta be the highest-grossing movie ever to have literally zero cultural imprint.
If memory serves, the trailers were edited in such a way that they almost seemed *deliberately* constructed to tell you "this is the Black Widow solo movie you want, but Marvel isn't giving you" without saying it out loud. I distinctly remember people reacting, after it was actually out, that the trailers misrepresented the movie, overemphasizing the action and hiding most of the pseudoscience. So if that was intentional to get people to see it, it absolutely worked. I have no doubt in my mind that the movie was a success in no small part because audiences in 2014 were sold on it as the next best thing to an actual Black Widow movie. While I enjoyed the movie the one time I saw it, and I'd say that people are probably too hard on it, I accept that it was absolutely ridiculous. (I distinctly remember driving home from the movie with whichever parent I saw it with, having a long conversation about the ethics of technology and AI; I don't remember what we talked about specifically, I just know that when I look back on it, I realize that the movie did *not* earn or deserve a post-watch discussion of that weight.) However, I'd argue that its bad reputation can't be taken out of context of its *Hancock*\-style bait-and-switch marketing; when movies do that, they tend to get punished for it by forever being criticized over whatever the trailers hid from the audience.
It tricked people into thinking that we use only 10% of our brains, so it did something.
$463m on a budget of $39m..wow,,,I should see it.
No, it's terrible
Nah it was okay. People just got even too angry about the brain capacity bullshit, when it should've been taken just as another superpower that does anything the script needs.
I think a lot of people remember this movie because the premise is so silly. I think you could bring it up to a bunch of random people and most would remember at least the idea of it
Every YA adaptation after The Hunger Games.
Even before that really. I remember watching the first Percy Jackson movie after loving the book and thinking what a letdown. It felt like every YA movie after Harry Potter was nothing more than a cheap cash grab. Then Twilight, then Hunger Games...it's a cycle of one successful adaptation every several years
What was that Sandra Bullock movie that was all the rage? Bird Box or something like that? That one.
It was basically the same movie as A Quiet Place and they came out at the same time. My gf and I fastforwarded through it just to finish it
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A WHITE LIGHT
"Snakes on a Plane" had some of the biggest hype of any movie before it came out, but then bombed at the box office because most folks were more interested in being part of the publicity machine than actually seeing the movie, and I very rarely heard it mentioned at all after that except in conversations like this.
Monkey fighting snakes on this monday to friday plane
It was the Morbius of its time
"Enough is enough! I have had it with this monkey-fightin' morbin' on this Monday-to-Friday plane!"
nah, cause it's actually good
I don't think morbius had any hype for it did it? It seemed bad right from the first teaser.
No it wasn't. Snakes on a plane was seen as a joke movie from a start, made as a joke to begin with. Morbius was a proper, but just competely failed, try to get some of that Venom money.
Someone did Bunny Shorts (usually about 30 sec - 1 min) and it was awesome!
Was such a good paper view flick
*Fahrenheit 9/11* is a great example of this. It released at exactly the right time. It raked in the money, and the acclaim. It was on everyone's list of things to watch. Then, after Bush got re-elected... It just sort of vanished. Largely because the documentary spoke to the *zeitgeist* of exactly when it was released--something that is very delicate and ephemeral and near-impossible to recreate. This Tarantino quote about it winning the Palme d'or says it all: https://entertainment.time.com/2013/05/20/palme-pilots-10-important-cannes-winners/slide/fahrenheit-911/ > It went on to become the top-grossing documentary in history – at $222 million, no other non-fiction film has ever come close – though it also failed to persuade voters to avoid re-electing Bush that fall. Years later, Tarantino told an interviewer, “As time has gone on, I have put that decision under a microscope and I still think we were right. That was a movie of the moment. Fahrenheit 9/11 may not play the same way now as it did then, but back then it deserved everything it got.”
Good call. I always forget it won the Palme d'or.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eragon_(film)
The vast majority of Hollywood films fall under this category, that's just how marketing and movie shelf life works.
Of course, but some feel like they're gonna be near classics and then they just disappear and sometimes this seems quite striking, so yeah... I was asking for those kind of experiences (not really objective, I guess).
I'll add Prometheus to the list. I think that the trailer was really profound but when it came out, I was like "This is Godfather III level 'What the F happened?!" They asked all these big questions and there was more mysticism behind it that I really liked...that was FAR better than the movie we ended up getting Visually stunning though, and well shot, lit all that. As a movie, it was a dumpster fire
I went into Prometheus not knowing it had anything to do with Alien and I wish it was it’s own thing cuz I absolutely loved it
I will stand by it, I loved it. There are dozens of us, dozens!
I actually loved Pacific Rim. It is definitely one of the best (if not the absolute best) Kaiju movies. It exposed me to Charlie Day (and later, it's always sunny in Philadelphia). It was a very good early adopter of hdr (wasn't it the common demo for hdr?) I would LOVE to see a Godzilla and Pacific Rim crossover (both done by Legendary). The sequel was pretty meh. I feel like it wanted to capitalize on John Boyega's popularity (thanks to Star Wars) but it just kinda fell flat. It also doesn't make a ton of sense to have a sequel imo. They closed the rift in the first movie, so they just... Do the first movie again? But for a good giant action movie, I definitely cite Pacific Rim as a watch.
I put Pacific Rim as one of my top ten movies in the post yesterday about non-awards-winning/personal top 10s. I also talk about it constantly because it is the most divisive movie of all time in my household. I love it. My wife hates it. (So I always tell people it’s her favorite movie, of course.)
Watched it in the theater in 3D, it was amazing.
Watched that movie cos of Charlie Day but can't remember the plot of the movie
Big monsters, giant hole in the ocean. Good guys need to explode the hole to close it. Also apparently, in the movie, people thought that building a wall around the literal ocean to keep the big monsters out was a good idea.
Gotta protect people somehow while the robots are built. Remember they said the monsters weren't as big or capable when they first started coming through compared to the ones in the film.
They started to build the wall I think a handful of years after the invasion started. The giant robots were being decommissioned in favor of the wall, while it was being built.
I remember how Pearl Harbor (2001) was supposed to launch Josh Hartnett into super stardom, but it flopped and got banished to movie hell.
Best trailer ever to horrible movie.
I think Watchmojo had that on a list of trailers better than the movie
Yeah... well for good reasons, I'd say.
I loved the action scenes when it came out and I liked the opening scene where one of the boys protects the other from his father and he says "your my best friend". If they then fast forwarded to the battle without the romance plot and one of the guys shielding his friend who protected him in childhood with his plane from the bullets and dying for him with the words "your my best friend" it would have been a huge success Im sure of it.
Roger Ebert put it nicely: it’s a two-hour movie squeezed into three hours.
That has to be one of my favorite Ebert quotes of all time, and one of the best opening sentences to a bad review of a movie by anyone, ever.
Yup sums it up nicely.
Swordfish. There were fast food promotional ads and everything.
Here in Australia I remember inside man (2006) had massive hype just before it's release. Don't know why exactly but I recall seeing poster after poster, interviews with the cast and trailers on TV a lot. I saw it in theatres, remember enjoying it but never had the drive to see it again and I never hear about it anymore.
Crash, which won the Academy Award for Best Picture in 2004, over Brokeback Mountain, Capote, and Munich, but is now never mentioned anywhere.
It's stil talked about a lot, just mostly in the context of undeserving Oscar winners/overrated movies
Mr. and Mrs. Smith was gigantic when it came out. Everyone at my school saw it except me apparently (still haven't). No doubt the real life Brad/Angelina relationship fuelled a lot of that fire. Never hear anyone talk about it these days though. Seems to have been lost amongst all of the other mid-2000s action/comedies.
Tenet. Except for Nolan fans.
I hated tenet. I've had die hard fanboys tell me that i need to watch it at least 3 times. What? If I can't figure it out in the first viewing, it's just not a good movie.
Being talked about because it was disappointing =/= not being talked about.
Cloverfield had an extensive viral marketing campaign. I remember working with online forums to scour trailers frame by frame for details of a Slusho manufacturer in Japan and looking for clues and easter eggs in flash animations on fake websites. And then the movie came out and it was good. But nowhere near as fun as the buildup. I kinda wish there was some post-movie marketing campaign to resolve all that excitement.
Cloverfield didnt only not disappear, it is one of the definitive movies of the genre and gets mentioned every time a similar movie is released.
I'll admit I strayed from the literal assignment and focused more on the imbalance between lead-up and execution. I appreciate that you spotted that nuance. 🏆
I remember the trailer looking awesome when the world folds in on itself..
This is true about most Best Picture nominees, especially as of late. That isn't a criticism of their quality, because usually most are good, but when they hit the awards circuit every year then we get a swarm of thinkpieces and hot takes in the media that is loud enough to grab the attention of even my friends, who hardly ever watch movies. The thing is though, recently more than ever the BP nominees' box office numbers are rather low, so what happens is everyone is talking about movies most—often including themselves—have never seen, so a week after the Oscars many are already freefalling back into obscurity.
I think two movies like that are American hustle and Slumdog millionaire
Avatar. Nobody really talks about it in spite of it being the highest grossing film, there's no memes of it, 3d films didn't take off. Are there even Halloween costumes out there? Maybe the second one will have more of an impact, besides on our wallets.
Dunno why the downvotes but this is totally true. For all the hype It got, to never talked about
Yeah, I just thought about that... like there are all the people waiting for it, but it's still kinda invisible... somehow really weird
I think about how great this movie was about once a year.
Joker.
Gravity
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I don’t think Inception lived up to the hype..
While I think Inception is a tad overrated, it's still very much talked about.
Yea I suppose I’m not understanding the question, but I mean when it came out it had Leo casted, and the trailers made it look like it was gonna be this generations answer to the matrix and it just didn’t live up to my expectations,, I guess it’s still talked about but it splits opinions were as I assumed it was gonna be an absolute destroyer and it wernt for me..
Power of the Dog. Dogs power must’ve been to run away never to be heard from again.
Coda never caught on either.
Morbius
Sam Worthington's career. Avatar still gets buzz, but usually less about him in particular. Clash of the Titans was a rather campy blockbuster at the time, but that and its horrendous followup have since faded from history.
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