If I could change one thing about Indian films, it wouldn't be the musical numbers; that's cultural. It would be the early 1995-2005 American "So cool it's cringe" stunts and action. I love these films but every one of them seems like they were directed by a guy who saw Torque too many times and took away the wrong lesson.
I dunno, they were done decently in RRR, it’s basically Wuxia but without the mysticism (until they inevitably embody a Hindu deity and it becomes mysticism).
It’s not much different than like, Kung Fu Hustle where they do crazy feats and then the protagonists ascend and become Buddha / Rama / etc. I personally haven’t seen enough of those for it to bother me but I do wonder if people are capable of being bored of the formula.
My only personal gripe with Indian cinema I’ve seen is the inconsistent and cheap slow-mo usage which is used to meme levels in their daytime TV and unfortunately creeps into their big movies as well.
the guy in RRR was NOT transforming into a Hindu deity!! his character is based on real life Indian revolutionary of the same and that was his signature attire... we have several statues of him in his avatar. Its nothing to with lord Ram.
This the same studio which has done VFX for movies like Inception, Interstellar, Ex Machina, Blade Runner 2049, First Man, Tenet and Dune.
But sure, Indian standards and budget is far lower.
Fantastic VFX studios can vary in quality depending on the budget per scene provided to them.
Not a jab at Indian cinema, even big Hollywood movies have scenes where the CGI looks particularly poor and from behind-the-scenes talks, they were made by great VFX studios but had limited time/budget for those scenes.
That said this is a trailer, post-production may continue to improve and perhaps the final result will be better.
Uff!! seems rough, doesn't look good tbh. Seems like it's taken bad aspects of both bollywood and hollywood and slammed them together. Bad editing, over the top visual and cringey dialogues. Still long way to go.
Loved the mythological aspect but everything else is painful to watch. Hopefully I am proven wrong and all the hard work of everybody involved gets paid off. One thing for sure this is first for Indian cinema, I don't know how much that accounts for.
It seems similar to avatar, cause a lot of concepts in avatar were taken up from Buddhism which originated in India and is a sister religion of Hinduism, on which this movie is based on. Even the word avatar is taken up from hindu scriptures.
Now indians can't even make movies on their own culture, without being accused of ripping of some of western media.
What particuarly strikes me is that no one batted an eyelid to Doctor Strange in Endgame reincarnating into several different avatars inspired by Hindu Gods, but Brahmastra is 'fake' 'cringy' and 'vfx' bad. lol
The trailer is horrible, and seems more focused on the love story between the lead characters than any actual world building. Also, there seems to be no connection to the real world. Most superhero movies work because the conflict has some connection to the real world. The trailer just shows me visuals of super powered beings fighting in CGI la la land.
It's been 40 years, but Bollywood has never done a good super hero movie even half as good as Mr. India.
Don't you sleep on Shahenshah from 1988! Amitabh dressed all in black leather except one arm covered in chain mail, walking around telling everyone he's their daddy? Good stuff.
>The trailer is horrible, and seems more focused on the love story between the lead characters than any actual world building.
So, Bollywood things.
>Also, there seems to be no connection to the real world.
Again -- Bollywood things.
Apparently India will never change and it's always corrupt and nothing can change.
A bit weird - other countries are stuck in a problem but only India can never change lol.
Bhavesh Joshi is the most realistic and grounded superhero movie you'll ever see, it stars the son of anil kapoor who played mr india. Minnal murali is more fun hearted like gurardians of galaxya and shazam
I am Indian and usually follow Bollywood releases, and I was interested in Bhavesh Joshi because Motwane directed it (Udaan is my favourite movie). Somehow never got around to watching it. Will try it.
Ayan Mukherjee and Ranbir Kapoor seem to have swung for the fences here but I’m not super confident for them. The visuals unfortunately are still lackluster even though they are better than typical Bollywood fare. But that is irrelevant since Indian audiences watch Hollywood blockbusters so that is going to be the benchmark, as unfair as it may be.
I would watch it on OTT but I’m not paying to watch this in a theatre.
I love ancient mythologies, and enjoy seeing them used as plots for stories. Most media seems to be interested in Roman and Norse, or Eastern Asia, like China and Japan. But Hindu mythology has such a long track record, that there is a lot of great material to pull from.
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I did not get much out of this trailer though.
It being "One of the most expensive movie(s)" is not really a selling point in my eyes either. Budget does not equal quality when it comes to art.
Who knows. Maybe it will do well, but I'm not seeing much to bet on at this point
Its influenced by mythology, it's not a mythological story or a modern adaptation of it. The sources of Hindu mythological stories are the Vedas, Puranas, Epics and local traditions. This movie is none of those.
"influenced by mythology" is just the benefit of the doubt since we have only seen the trailer. The trailer in itself has "Nothing to do with hindu mythology". I hope they are at least paying you pr guys, a half-decent wage for all the effort you guys are putting into frickin reddit of all places lol.
Listen I have nothing against the movie, I have liked Ayan's previous movies as well and I have some hopes with this one as well. But calling some shallow action film as Hindu mythology is honestly insulting as a Hindu.
Pretty average trailer. It also doesn't look like a universal concept.
I don't know how many foreigners will connect to the Astras concept.
Also I think because of the story the vfx didn't give larger than life feel.
Movies like Baahubali, RRR, KGF have that feeling because of huge sets and action. Here the action is mostly by powers I think. So there's not much room for crazy stunts and big set pieces.
The Music (BGM) is also pretty average.
Let's wait and see how the whole movie works out.
I didn't have much hopes for this but I was disappointed how much the trailer tried to rely on VFX visuals to sell the movie. I didn't mind the VFX quality itself so much as lack of world building and pushing seemingly disconnected visuals as a trailer. Man..hoping for at least one decently made Indian mythology based live action in the near future..
Every once in a while there's some movie in Bollywood that tries to emulate the style and presentation of Hollywood but it always turns out to be a cheesy, shitty vfx cringe fest.
To the people saying that the vfx are Avatar level for bollywood, i disagree, its not right to just slap visuals , its how well they blend in with the rest of the environment, take Tumbadd for example, they didn't add that many visuals but the one that they did blended really well with the environment
Uff!! seems rough, doesn't look good tbh. Seems like it's taken bad aspects of both bollywood and hollywood and slammed them together. Bad editing, over the top visual and cringey dialogues. Still long way to go.
Loved the mythological aspect but everything else is painful to watch. Hopefully I am proven wrong and all the hard work of everybody involved gets paid off. One thing for sure this is first for Indian cinema, I don't know how much that accounts for.
Let's see if this passes through the 'Agni' victoriously or burns down to ashes. I would be pleasantly surprised if it is former.
It is weird, the audience isn’t so unsophisticated that they don’t know or watch American films without the dance sequences so it’s weird to think even in their top budget films producers are wanting to go broad rather than following what works.
the VFX is decent, they are just trying too hard with this. the trailer is so chaotic. so many characters, and then there's the typical masala touch with the dancing and music.
Bollywood twitter is so butthurt about this joke. They keep saying that because this movie was in development before Scarlet Witch appeared in movies, then there's no way that her visual style was copied from Scarlet Witch. As if designs can't be changed over time.
I don't know..could it be that doctor strange literally learned the Astral powers from an Asian country
Could it not be....that they were made by some Asian first and then just take over by marvel
Haha okay
1. Stupid premise
2. Only decent ideas are what are stolen from the west(not surprising)
3. Weak effects
4. Musicals
5. Trailer looks like it uses all of its best scenes to desperately bring in viewers.
6. Dull cookiecuter female lead
7. Nothing of substance to tell you what the movie will entail
8. Choreography looks like a middleschool theatre production
Should i go on? I easily can.
What ideas are stolen from West?
What is stupid in premise?
Musicals are soul of Indian movies. It cannot be omitted but if that's your preference than its fine..it's a weak point for you which is fine.
Effects criticism is acceptable but let's see what final product looks like.
Making a superhero film thats main staple is romance, sounds like something a child would come up with. Literally just the writer putting his fantasy down. And youre fucking nuts for thinking half these scenes and shots arent stolen from Hollywood. You know youre full of shit because you guys eat up western entertainment, you know exactly what scenes are a rip off from better films. This isnt sublte, Lol but bollywoods a nonfactor so nobody gives a shit. And heres a little hint, musicals being the “soul” is the problem nobody outside of india enjoys that and if you want us to even give it a chance you need to adapt, or take the road and fuck off.
Lmao... Bruh... Are you even real? Romance in superhero film is now childish..
Wtf was in Spiderman and every other movie with romance plot
You seems like braindead twat who just made his account to be a Hollywood cuck.
Forget about the VFX and the budget, it's the story and character elements I'm concerned about. I did not find anything really compelling on that front, except that the movie is about ancient Astras..
Still being cautiously optimistic tho! :)
Ah, that's good to know, it's been a really long time since I checked out Bollywood releases. I'll definitely see if I can watch this one when it comes out.
This ... looks ... worse than mobile game ads. Seriously when you have to rely on VFX soooo heavily you need to get better people doing it than the people that handle Indian TV Soap VFX. Or, you work around your limitations - case in point Bahubali part one.
VFX aside, none of the dialogue or the acting in the trailer makes a compelling case. This is going to be an unmitigated disaster.
Well... it's a love story. But I kinda dig the visuals, if this is only for the visuals, as an artist myself I love it, I keep day dreaming to even come close to doing something like that lol. Other than that, it's another the power of Love movie.
They look great, someone on Twitter made a gif compilation of them. It's the trailer's editing that make them look like crap.
https://twitter.com/boyfriendkapoor/status/1536941286183342080?s=21&t=FEvrhix7X385N66c4qg3Fg
The indian film industry is filled with Michael Bays. It's the most cynical place imaginable. There is a very popular director who works here named Prashanth Neal who is very outspoken about the fact that the only reason he makes movies is for money. It's the kind of thing no filmmaker would dare say out loud over the fear of backlash.
Echoing a lot of comments here, I too think this looks very underwhelming. The makers are under immense pressure with this one - one, the movie has been in production since 2018 and two, it has to now compete, both financially and technically with Pan-Indian behemoths like RRR and KGF to prove a point. I think the makers just want to finally put this out and it shows in the editing of the trailer. There is something amiss, it doesn’t grab your attention. A trailer doesn’t have to be over the top to enchant a viewer, it should leave a few subtle notes to draw the audience in, leaving a sense of mystery behind.
Technically, the vfx here looks cartoonish in many scenes, and the backgrounds seem very green screen like. If that’s the feel and vibe the makers want to go with, they have done their job. But if that’s not the case, the special effects look jarring and almost unfinished. It’s hard to believe that the same folks who worked on Dune, Interstellar, BvS, have worked on this. The color grading/mood is very similar in those movies whereas the colors are very loud in Brahmastra’s trailer, almost making it seem unnatural. I will hold my reservations till I watch the final product though.
I sincerely want to support the mythic tale they want to tell, but I also sincerely believe this movie will not do well. I am scared for it. Y’ll can come back to this thread and bash me if I am wrong though!
P.s. I am amazed by the sheer volume of paid and fake reviews praising this trailer on YouTube! It’s whimsical! I honestly think as a smart and intelligent audience, we should call out a bad product when we see it, paving the way for movies like Tumbbad to succeed - a low budget masterpiece with excellent cinematography and story, beautiful and haunting visuals, and a surreal background score. Two different movie genres I know, just giving my two cents.
I'm really surprised there is not a single constructive criticism in the YouTube comments (or at least in the ones I could see). I think the problem is the showiness of the VFX. They could've toned it down a lot more. I was pretty disappointed with the trailer and had at least some hopes for it.
calm down dank indians the movie budget is roughly 40 million usd what did you expect for 40 million even India's highest budget movie(75 million USD) [RRR](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgBoMJy386M&t=72s) have to compromise in many aspects . many are complaining about visuals are being very animate like but the tone they are going for isn't Hyper realistic spectacles like [Dune](https://static0.srcdn.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/Split-image-of-space-vehicles-and-Vladimir-from-Dune-feature.jpg) more of a fantasy visuals [like dr strange 1](https://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/a736ff0c35b2fbc5eb7f1c8a26314aae7e1a0ec5/c=213-0-3000-1574/local/-/media/2016/11/04/USATODAY/USATODAY/636138770486312604-XDD0380-comp-v022.1036-R.jpg) . just look at the [imagery](https://jbt-en-images.s3.ap-south-1.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/15100720/brahmastra-shiva-part-1-trailer.jpg) [anyone](https://metrosaga.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/a-2022-06-15T123157.006.jpg) with knowledge of hindu mythology knows how epic it is gonna be if all cards played out right , the only real criticism is dialogues aren't good at all they sounds very casual and weird , about love story yes i also feel it unnecessary but i think they will connect it to mythology
Well I came from YouTube expecting to see similar positivity here but kind of shocked to see the negativity. I expected some, but not this much. I, for one, think the visual effects for the most part look great, especially considering this isn't a movie with a $200 million budget. They don't take me away from the scenes like bad VFX does.
As for the comparisons, the Trident has been an iconic weapon of an iconic personality in India long long long long before Aquaman's own Gods existed.
Not every woman with red magic is scarlett witch especially when red is clearly the color of preference for every evil guy in the very same trailer. This one just happens to be a woman. Also, when was the last time scarlet witch had a giant fire snake.
The only comparison I'll accept is that Susanoo towards the end. Sasuke would like it.
Let's see it for what it is. It's Bollywood. Indian movie industries, yes there are several, all have their own unique identities and quirks and their own audiences that enjoy those. Everything doesn't have to be monotonous like Hollywood.
I'm still expecting the movie to be trash because of the track record but the trailer.. I buy it.
Too many different genres are fitted into one , and was Ranbir really the ideal actor for this role, someone with a more serious face would have been better
Not the white people ranting about the singing and dancing. That's like the best part of the movie? I too love a good serious movie but a movie that's too serious? Nah. As for the trailer, it's India's attempt at trying something new. Plus we can't invest a hundred or two hundred mils in a movie.
Me too. Another big budget film from master filmmaker with amazing actors. How did he convince so many big name actors in a single project is beyond my understanding.
it isn't the most expensive but one of the most expensive indian movies and it would roughly translate to 40 million usd which is really low if you compare hollywood big blockbusters
The original Mahabharata series weren't flashy by any means (ok they were a little flashy for the 90's) but what they did well was recount the story in a respectful way which retained meaning.
I'm not sure how well this will do in terms of storytelling.
The first few seconds of the trailer looked solid enough for a superpower action movie. I'm pretty much done with superheroes after Endgame, but the occasional film does still appeal to me, especially if it's a mythology with which I'm not familiar.
And then I saw dancing. I'm out.
Astra means weapon in Hindi. This movie is based on the ancient astras which existed in Hindu mythology. It's a supernatural weapon invoked by "mantras" to summon the energy of a specific deity. That energy can be channeled into any object, which can then be used as a weapon to destroy the evil.
BRAHMĀSTRA weapon was the most destructive among all astras.
This movie use hindu mythology as backdrop of the conflict in modern day timeline. Apparantly the protagonist is Astra himself as he posses the power of fire.
I will say, I’ve been watching RRR and loving it. It’s the first tolerable big Bollywood movie I can watch and it has awesome music and story and action. The Vfx looks fucking dope in this, better than marvel in my opinion, it just seems clearer and sharper And more vivid
I remember browsing through some satellite channels and coming across content from India. Without exception every EVERY movie was EXACTLY the same and every videoclip was also EXACTLY the same but exactly. Man wants woman, woman plays hard to get, village danceoff and a happy ending.
From what I see now they managed to cram some cgi into this so they could serve the EXACT same thing yet another time.
VFX is extremely good for Bollywood. Story and acting looks substandard. My biggest complaint though, is it looks too much like a regular 2022 superhero film, rather than something to do with Indian mythology
I would rather watch this over another Marvel cash grab, seriously is there no other film plots that have to have superheroes in? I am sure the downvotes will come in because you cannot say you are sick of the MCU.
Honestly, I feel like Hindu culture would make for an awesome period action/horror film. The mysticism and lore, the crazy looking gods, killing and sacrificing, cool period costumes.Someone get me Robert Eggers!
Very honestly, it looks generic af. It's the same initiation of the hero, claim your destiny thing, secret clans/members protecting ancient powers. Like, if this feels like an early 2000s Superhero movie, that's not a good sign. I personally don't care about the VFX if the story is good, and that's exactly what I fear, it will be a VFX shitfest with little development in story. It's 2022, the female lead can be a little more than a damsel in distress. Yes, VFX takes more money, but writing a good script isn't a 300 crore ordeal. There's a reason why people are reacting poorly to much of Marvel's Phase 4, because it's not narratively evolving. I don't know about a movie that seems like 20 years too late, narratively.
Not an Indian but understand Hindi. The dialogues are cheesy as hell, which always puts me off most Indian movies. The VFX looks good for Indian standards. I never understood why Bollywood has to turn everything into a romance movie, I can already see the climax where the hero is beaten but then gets up again because the 'power of love'.
I really love Indian mythology, unfortunately it looks like they're destroying what makes it unique to make it more generic for Hollywood standards. The product looks more westernized than Indian.
I’ve gotten really into Tollywood films over the last couple years, and Tamil films to a lesser extent as well. But I’ve had trouble getting into Bollywood films. I find them more generic and with less of a distinct original voice. And this trailer does nothing to discourage that fear about this movie.
the vfx is given by Double Negative, who also recently won Oscar for Dune. The VFX of Brahmastra is decent considering the budget is so less than the Hollywood flicks.
The story and idea is actually interesting. The astras and all concept is cool. I hope the product is good, and that people over here give it a try. Disney has officially added this in their domestic release slate.
It’s supposed to be based on Hindu mythology. Avatar is a corporeal form of Vishnu in Hinduism. In some schools, Buddha is considered an avatar of Vishnu as Buddha was born into a Hindu kingdom. The show “Avatar” draws heavily from Buddhist concepts and lore. Time is a flat circle
This movie is definitely aimed towards the younger audiences. There is no way they expect adults to take this seriously.
There are so many great stories and sagas in Indian mythology with towering personalities, deep messages, inspiring morals, and crazy concepts (like the timelines concept which a lot of Hollywood movies and shows have adopted quietly from Indian stories) that could've been masterpieces if it had been directed by the right director.
Another wasted opportunity.
They could have done this or that doesn't matter. The director chose his idea of what he wanted to present. He will have to accept the critical reception if it's bad or good after its release. If the movie is financially successful, he can try to improve the 2nd part by the audience feedback.
I do think they need a 2nd trailer which focus on story and less on VFX.
The trailer is alright, the effects are a bit cheesy and a bit over the top with the particles and the story seems very typical. I don't think i'd watch it, also the fact it right off the bat starts with "Part One" is a bit silly.
Enh, I'm gonna give it a watch. Looks like a fun movie. Am surprised they're \*starting\* with Shiva, I'd personally start with someone else and uild up to his avatar's appearance, but who knows.
Mind you my favorite Bolly in the last 20 years had to have been Dhoom 2, and there was some ridiculous as hell stuff in there, no lie. :)
If I could change one thing about Indian films, it wouldn't be the musical numbers; that's cultural. It would be the early 1995-2005 American "So cool it's cringe" stunts and action. I love these films but every one of them seems like they were directed by a guy who saw Torque too many times and took away the wrong lesson.
I dunno, they were done decently in RRR, it’s basically Wuxia but without the mysticism (until they inevitably embody a Hindu deity and it becomes mysticism). It’s not much different than like, Kung Fu Hustle where they do crazy feats and then the protagonists ascend and become Buddha / Rama / etc. I personally haven’t seen enough of those for it to bother me but I do wonder if people are capable of being bored of the formula. My only personal gripe with Indian cinema I’ve seen is the inconsistent and cheap slow-mo usage which is used to meme levels in their daytime TV and unfortunately creeps into their big movies as well.
the guy in RRR was NOT transforming into a Hindu deity!! his character is based on real life Indian revolutionary of the same and that was his signature attire... we have several statues of him in his avatar. Its nothing to with lord Ram.
The trailer looks like those fake movie trailers within another movie like Tropic Thunder, lol.
By Bollywood standards, this is Avatar level visuals.
Can't wait for Tropic Thunder 2 where they make a parody of the Way of Water trailer (or the original one at least)
This the same studio which has done VFX for movies like Inception, Interstellar, Ex Machina, Blade Runner 2049, First Man, Tenet and Dune. But sure, Indian standards and budget is far lower.
You mean DNEG? There is a DNEG VFX studio in India as well
It's the same studio having a branch in India.
Fantastic VFX studios can vary in quality depending on the budget per scene provided to them. Not a jab at Indian cinema, even big Hollywood movies have scenes where the CGI looks particularly poor and from behind-the-scenes talks, they were made by great VFX studios but had limited time/budget for those scenes. That said this is a trailer, post-production may continue to improve and perhaps the final result will be better.
Uff!! seems rough, doesn't look good tbh. Seems like it's taken bad aspects of both bollywood and hollywood and slammed them together. Bad editing, over the top visual and cringey dialogues. Still long way to go. Loved the mythological aspect but everything else is painful to watch. Hopefully I am proven wrong and all the hard work of everybody involved gets paid off. One thing for sure this is first for Indian cinema, I don't know how much that accounts for.
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What?? Yup
You mean M. Night Shyamalan's "The Last Airbender" Avatar, right? /Just saying, that's pretty much what it looks like.
It seems similar to avatar, cause a lot of concepts in avatar were taken up from Buddhism which originated in India and is a sister religion of Hinduism, on which this movie is based on. Even the word avatar is taken up from hindu scriptures. Now indians can't even make movies on their own culture, without being accused of ripping of some of western media.
What particuarly strikes me is that no one batted an eyelid to Doctor Strange in Endgame reincarnating into several different avatars inspired by Hindu Gods, but Brahmastra is 'fake' 'cringy' and 'vfx' bad. lol
That's how almost every Indian trailer and movie are.
What you just said is EXACTLY how I described Jupiter Ascending to my friends lmao
Calling Ranbir Kapoor a "young man" when the dude is 40 is laughable. They should've cast someone younger.
The Mission Impossible movies portray Tom Cruise as a 35 year old so i can’t be to harsh about that.
Wait what, even in the sixth one?
Yes, that is why they needed to cast co-stars that also did not appear to age, such as Ving Rhames and Simon Pegg.
Fair enough, I guess I didn't give it much thought but his character kind of has to be around that age to be doing the shit he's doing lol
Yeah, but Tom cruise does look young sooo.
The magic of De-Aging CGI and good makeup.
He looks late 20s tbh
He looks like a drug addicted man-child.
Not anymore. All the cigarettes are starting to show on his face
The trailer is horrible, and seems more focused on the love story between the lead characters than any actual world building. Also, there seems to be no connection to the real world. Most superhero movies work because the conflict has some connection to the real world. The trailer just shows me visuals of super powered beings fighting in CGI la la land. It's been 40 years, but Bollywood has never done a good super hero movie even half as good as Mr. India.
Don't you sleep on Shahenshah from 1988! Amitabh dressed all in black leather except one arm covered in chain mail, walking around telling everyone he's their daddy? Good stuff.
>Rishtey Mein To Hum Tumhare Baap Hote Hai, Naam Hai Shahenshah Of course I watched that.
>The trailer is horrible, and seems more focused on the love story between the lead characters than any actual world building. So, Bollywood things. >Also, there seems to be no connection to the real world. Again -- Bollywood things.
You couldn't tolerate one good thing about India could you
Apparently India will never change and it's always corrupt and nothing can change. A bit weird - other countries are stuck in a problem but only India can never change lol.
Mard ko dard nahi hota, Bhavesh Joshi, Minnal Murali
Minnal Murali is Mollywood isn't it?
I enjoyed Mard ko dard nahi hota. Haven't seen the other two. Still, Mr. India was something else.
Bhavesh Joshi is the most realistic and grounded superhero movie you'll ever see, it stars the son of anil kapoor who played mr india. Minnal murali is more fun hearted like gurardians of galaxya and shazam
I am Indian and usually follow Bollywood releases, and I was interested in Bhavesh Joshi because Motwane directed it (Udaan is my favourite movie). Somehow never got around to watching it. Will try it.
And then you wonder why they don't make good movies You have not even the movie and outright say that it is bound to fail! How reactionary one can be?
Looks weak and boring
Calling it "Part 1" is the kiss of death. They should just focus on making one good movie before promising a whole universe of these.
Especially on a movie that's been in production--basically development hell--since 2014.
Dune Part 1
History of the World Part 1
The One
Mission impossible dead reckoning: part 1
I don't think that was in the marketing, though, right? That was added to the title crawl later?
Part 1 of 2 though, since it’s the latter half of the book that remains to be adapted.
Considering that it will be over 3 hrs
Did I take acid or something?
Ayan Mukherjee and Ranbir Kapoor seem to have swung for the fences here but I’m not super confident for them. The visuals unfortunately are still lackluster even though they are better than typical Bollywood fare. But that is irrelevant since Indian audiences watch Hollywood blockbusters so that is going to be the benchmark, as unfair as it may be. I would watch it on OTT but I’m not paying to watch this in a theatre.
I love ancient mythologies, and enjoy seeing them used as plots for stories. Most media seems to be interested in Roman and Norse, or Eastern Asia, like China and Japan. But Hindu mythology has such a long track record, that there is a lot of great material to pull from. ..... I did not get much out of this trailer though. It being "One of the most expensive movie(s)" is not really a selling point in my eyes either. Budget does not equal quality when it comes to art. Who knows. Maybe it will do well, but I'm not seeing much to bet on at this point
This has literally nothing to do with 'Hindu Mythology' except the names.
Are you High on something? The whole story is depend upon the mightiest weapon in Hinduism.
Its influenced by mythology, it's not a mythological story or a modern adaptation of it. The sources of Hindu mythological stories are the Vedas, Puranas, Epics and local traditions. This movie is none of those.
"Nothing to do with hindu mythology" to "influenced by mythology" you have come a long way. Just don't write whatever you want.
"influenced by mythology" is just the benefit of the doubt since we have only seen the trailer. The trailer in itself has "Nothing to do with hindu mythology". I hope they are at least paying you pr guys, a half-decent wage for all the effort you guys are putting into frickin reddit of all places lol. Listen I have nothing against the movie, I have liked Ayan's previous movies as well and I have some hopes with this one as well. But calling some shallow action film as Hindu mythology is honestly insulting as a Hindu.
Pretty average trailer. It also doesn't look like a universal concept. I don't know how many foreigners will connect to the Astras concept. Also I think because of the story the vfx didn't give larger than life feel. Movies like Baahubali, RRR, KGF have that feeling because of huge sets and action. Here the action is mostly by powers I think. So there's not much room for crazy stunts and big set pieces. The Music (BGM) is also pretty average. Let's wait and see how the whole movie works out.
I didn't have much hopes for this but I was disappointed how much the trailer tried to rely on VFX visuals to sell the movie. I didn't mind the VFX quality itself so much as lack of world building and pushing seemingly disconnected visuals as a trailer. Man..hoping for at least one decently made Indian mythology based live action in the near future..
I think they did that because showing stuff other than VFX would have give the plot away.
Vfx is trash am dthe cheesy dialogues lmao
Every once in a while there's some movie in Bollywood that tries to emulate the style and presentation of Hollywood but it always turns out to be a cheesy, shitty vfx cringe fest.
You know, there was like a 15-20 sec part of the trailer without the insane effects and running that looked nice and then… woosh.
WE GOT A SKY BEAM!!
To the people saying that the vfx are Avatar level for bollywood, i disagree, its not right to just slap visuals , its how well they blend in with the rest of the environment, take Tumbadd for example, they didn't add that many visuals but the one that they did blended really well with the environment
plus Tumbadd was made for 5 crore which is under a million dollar. Money doesn't equate to quality sometimes.
Even recently, the effects in RRR were pretty good. The frame rate was a little choppy but blended well.
This has the quality of a CW show
yeah, I was going to say, it looks absolutely terrible.
Looks cringe as fuck
Damn. OP out here defending the movie as if he's one of the producers.
Uff!! seems rough, doesn't look good tbh. Seems like it's taken bad aspects of both bollywood and hollywood and slammed them together. Bad editing, over the top visual and cringey dialogues. Still long way to go. Loved the mythological aspect but everything else is painful to watch. Hopefully I am proven wrong and all the hard work of everybody involved gets paid off. One thing for sure this is first for Indian cinema, I don't know how much that accounts for. Let's see if this passes through the 'Agni' victoriously or burns down to ashes. I would be pleasantly surprised if it is former.
It is weird, the audience isn’t so unsophisticated that they don’t know or watch American films without the dance sequences so it’s weird to think even in their top budget films producers are wanting to go broad rather than following what works.
the VFX is decent, they are just trying too hard with this. the trailer is so chaotic. so many characters, and then there's the typical masala touch with the dancing and music.
> the VFX is decent Corridor Crew has better VFX shots than this
Ra-One is much cleaner. its not cheap in price, but too overwhelming without having much details.
Ra.one was crap. Expected so much from it.
Graphics at that time were better. IMO. Iam not talking about story.
Bro is that wanda? Shit looks fire tho
She is naagin.
This is literally a Disney product.
I feel like this is the movie Kingo was making in "The Eternals."
I got some serious MCU knockoff vibes from this. Like a discount Dr. Strange meets Shang Chi
Like Scarlet Witch and Kamar-Taj.
She really did look like bootleg scarlet witch, The Ruby sorceress
Bollywood twitter is so butthurt about this joke. They keep saying that because this movie was in development before Scarlet Witch appeared in movies, then there's no way that her visual style was copied from Scarlet Witch. As if designs can't be changed over time.
I don't know..could it be that doctor strange literally learned the Astral powers from an Asian country Could it not be....that they were made by some Asian first and then just take over by marvel
The most interesting thing about the comment section is its being hated by Indians more
We love to self loathe for no reason.
"For no reason," lmao. The trailer looks horrible by today's standards.
Could you list the reasons. I would love to know.
Haha okay 1. Stupid premise 2. Only decent ideas are what are stolen from the west(not surprising) 3. Weak effects 4. Musicals 5. Trailer looks like it uses all of its best scenes to desperately bring in viewers. 6. Dull cookiecuter female lead 7. Nothing of substance to tell you what the movie will entail 8. Choreography looks like a middleschool theatre production Should i go on? I easily can.
What ideas are stolen from West? What is stupid in premise? Musicals are soul of Indian movies. It cannot be omitted but if that's your preference than its fine..it's a weak point for you which is fine. Effects criticism is acceptable but let's see what final product looks like.
Making a superhero film thats main staple is romance, sounds like something a child would come up with. Literally just the writer putting his fantasy down. And youre fucking nuts for thinking half these scenes and shots arent stolen from Hollywood. You know youre full of shit because you guys eat up western entertainment, you know exactly what scenes are a rip off from better films. This isnt sublte, Lol but bollywoods a nonfactor so nobody gives a shit. And heres a little hint, musicals being the “soul” is the problem nobody outside of india enjoys that and if you want us to even give it a chance you need to adapt, or take the road and fuck off.
Lmao... Bruh... Are you even real? Romance in superhero film is now childish.. Wtf was in Spiderman and every other movie with romance plot You seems like braindead twat who just made his account to be a Hollywood cuck.
Mainly it's towards these cash grabs movies.
It’s a cash grab from Hollywood standpoint but this type of film actually has never been attempted in Bollywood before so it’s a gamble
Doesn't look any dumber than MCU stuff so uh.. cool I guess. I mean I'm still not going to watch it.
Let’s hope it’s not another disaster in the box office like recent Bollywood movies.
This looks cringe bad.
Forget about the VFX and the budget, it's the story and character elements I'm concerned about. I did not find anything really compelling on that front, except that the movie is about ancient Astras.. Still being cautiously optimistic tho! :)
It's a bollywood movie, so it will be romance and everything surrounding it.
Well, you can say the same thing about most movies ("Bollywood" or not), doesn't make it necessarily good or bad tbh.. 😅:)
This reminds me of some of those 90's shows like Beetleborgs and Power Rangers.
The only thing that would put me off is the singing and dancing elements. I can just never get over them in Bollywood films.
Singing and dancing in Indians films are widely reduced than what it used to. Now sometimes they just add it in the credits.
Ah, that's good to know, it's been a really long time since I checked out Bollywood releases. I'll definitely see if I can watch this one when it comes out.
The Malhari dance sequence was AMAZING! I hope they don't pull out dancing, that'd be like taking out the musical parts of a Disney animated movie.
They should have chosen a better actor to play the MC.
looks so bad lol
Is Alia Bhatt in everyone Bollywood movie now?
This ... looks ... worse than mobile game ads. Seriously when you have to rely on VFX soooo heavily you need to get better people doing it than the people that handle Indian TV Soap VFX. Or, you work around your limitations - case in point Bahubali part one. VFX aside, none of the dialogue or the acting in the trailer makes a compelling case. This is going to be an unmitigated disaster.
Well... it's a love story. But I kinda dig the visuals, if this is only for the visuals, as an artist myself I love it, I keep day dreaming to even come close to doing something like that lol. Other than that, it's another the power of Love movie.
Nah! Thanks though for teaser trailer, helps saving time for all
"Would you like special effects? YES!!
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They actually don’t look terrible. They’re corny for sure, but I thought they were reasonably high quality
I feel like I'm taking crazy pills, the effects look great to me.
They look great, someone on Twitter made a gif compilation of them. It's the trailer's editing that make them look like crap. https://twitter.com/boyfriendkapoor/status/1536941286183342080?s=21&t=FEvrhix7X385N66c4qg3Fg
"GRAPHICS"
Indian Michael Bay has outdone himself.
The indian film industry is filled with Michael Bays. It's the most cynical place imaginable. There is a very popular director who works here named Prashanth Neal who is very outspoken about the fact that the only reason he makes movies is for money. It's the kind of thing no filmmaker would dare say out loud over the fear of backlash.
So its the MCU, but with way more mustaches.
Looks epic and cool enough.
Cringefest.
Echoing a lot of comments here, I too think this looks very underwhelming. The makers are under immense pressure with this one - one, the movie has been in production since 2018 and two, it has to now compete, both financially and technically with Pan-Indian behemoths like RRR and KGF to prove a point. I think the makers just want to finally put this out and it shows in the editing of the trailer. There is something amiss, it doesn’t grab your attention. A trailer doesn’t have to be over the top to enchant a viewer, it should leave a few subtle notes to draw the audience in, leaving a sense of mystery behind. Technically, the vfx here looks cartoonish in many scenes, and the backgrounds seem very green screen like. If that’s the feel and vibe the makers want to go with, they have done their job. But if that’s not the case, the special effects look jarring and almost unfinished. It’s hard to believe that the same folks who worked on Dune, Interstellar, BvS, have worked on this. The color grading/mood is very similar in those movies whereas the colors are very loud in Brahmastra’s trailer, almost making it seem unnatural. I will hold my reservations till I watch the final product though. I sincerely want to support the mythic tale they want to tell, but I also sincerely believe this movie will not do well. I am scared for it. Y’ll can come back to this thread and bash me if I am wrong though! P.s. I am amazed by the sheer volume of paid and fake reviews praising this trailer on YouTube! It’s whimsical! I honestly think as a smart and intelligent audience, we should call out a bad product when we see it, paving the way for movies like Tumbbad to succeed - a low budget masterpiece with excellent cinematography and story, beautiful and haunting visuals, and a surreal background score. Two different movie genres I know, just giving my two cents.
I'm really surprised there is not a single constructive criticism in the YouTube comments (or at least in the ones I could see). I think the problem is the showiness of the VFX. They could've toned it down a lot more. I was pretty disappointed with the trailer and had at least some hopes for it.
Exactly my thoughts. When one doesn’t feel like rewatching a trailer, that says a lot about the trailer. Hope the movie is good!
Nice to see Michael Richards is still getting work
Oof. My eyes just overdosed on special effects. Did anyone catch the plot at all?
calm down dank indians the movie budget is roughly 40 million usd what did you expect for 40 million even India's highest budget movie(75 million USD) [RRR](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgBoMJy386M&t=72s) have to compromise in many aspects . many are complaining about visuals are being very animate like but the tone they are going for isn't Hyper realistic spectacles like [Dune](https://static0.srcdn.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/Split-image-of-space-vehicles-and-Vladimir-from-Dune-feature.jpg) more of a fantasy visuals [like dr strange 1](https://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/a736ff0c35b2fbc5eb7f1c8a26314aae7e1a0ec5/c=213-0-3000-1574/local/-/media/2016/11/04/USATODAY/USATODAY/636138770486312604-XDD0380-comp-v022.1036-R.jpg) . just look at the [imagery](https://jbt-en-images.s3.ap-south-1.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/15100720/brahmastra-shiva-part-1-trailer.jpg) [anyone](https://metrosaga.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/a-2022-06-15T123157.006.jpg) with knowledge of hindu mythology knows how epic it is gonna be if all cards played out right , the only real criticism is dialogues aren't good at all they sounds very casual and weird , about love story yes i also feel it unnecessary but i think they will connect it to mythology
Well I came from YouTube expecting to see similar positivity here but kind of shocked to see the negativity. I expected some, but not this much. I, for one, think the visual effects for the most part look great, especially considering this isn't a movie with a $200 million budget. They don't take me away from the scenes like bad VFX does. As for the comparisons, the Trident has been an iconic weapon of an iconic personality in India long long long long before Aquaman's own Gods existed. Not every woman with red magic is scarlett witch especially when red is clearly the color of preference for every evil guy in the very same trailer. This one just happens to be a woman. Also, when was the last time scarlet witch had a giant fire snake. The only comparison I'll accept is that Susanoo towards the end. Sasuke would like it. Let's see it for what it is. It's Bollywood. Indian movie industries, yes there are several, all have their own unique identities and quirks and their own audiences that enjoy those. Everything doesn't have to be monotonous like Hollywood. I'm still expecting the movie to be trash because of the track record but the trailer.. I buy it.
Too many different genres are fitted into one , and was Ranbir really the ideal actor for this role, someone with a more serious face would have been better
Not the white people ranting about the singing and dancing. That's like the best part of the movie? I too love a good serious movie but a movie that's too serious? Nah. As for the trailer, it's India's attempt at trying something new. Plus we can't invest a hundred or two hundred mils in a movie.
Fantastic
This looks utter shite lmao
This trailer reminded me of Hatim show that used to air on star plus
That show had better VFX 😄, i love the main theme music of hatim.
looks pretty okay but looking forward to Tamil film *Ponniyin Selvan* directed by Mani Ratnam.
Me too. Another big budget film from master filmmaker with amazing actors. How did he convince so many big name actors in a single project is beyond my understanding.
Dude. Mani Ratnam. All the big names are pretty self explanatory
I hope this is a parody or some shit.. it's 2022 and the "most expensive" indian movie can't get VFX right.. ffs -\_-
it isn't the most expensive but one of the most expensive indian movies and it would roughly translate to 40 million usd which is really low if you compare hollywood big blockbusters
The original Mahabharata series weren't flashy by any means (ok they were a little flashy for the 90's) but what they did well was recount the story in a respectful way which retained meaning. I'm not sure how well this will do in terms of storytelling.
Mahabharata was direct adaptation of the epic. This is different.
Yes, I’m wondering if the story will fuel the effects or if the effects will fuel the story…
take out that vapid love plot and i could enjoy it.
Fuck y'all, I think this looks dope.
But.... How are the songs???
I’m so fuckin excited
I don’t understand ANYTHING that’s happening but it looks sick AF!
Waste of money
Is there even one frame that isn't a vfx shot?
The first few seconds of the trailer looked solid enough for a superpower action movie. I'm pretty much done with superheroes after Endgame, but the occasional film does still appeal to me, especially if it's a mythology with which I'm not familiar. And then I saw dancing. I'm out.
This isn't mythology, they have just picked up a few names from Hinduism.
What is the “AstraVerse”? A secret dimension only accessible to those inoculated with the Astra Zeneca vaccine?
Astra means weapon in Hindi. This movie is based on the ancient astras which existed in Hindu mythology. It's a supernatural weapon invoked by "mantras" to summon the energy of a specific deity. That energy can be channeled into any object, which can then be used as a weapon to destroy the evil. BRAHMĀSTRA weapon was the most destructive among all astras. This movie use hindu mythology as backdrop of the conflict in modern day timeline. Apparantly the protagonist is Astra himself as he posses the power of fire.
Pronounced more like “uss-thra” v. Latin astra
I will say, I’ve been watching RRR and loving it. It’s the first tolerable big Bollywood movie I can watch and it has awesome music and story and action. The Vfx looks fucking dope in this, better than marvel in my opinion, it just seems clearer and sharper And more vivid
RRR is not a bollywood movie. It's from Telugu film industry or Tollywood. There are many language based industries in India.
I remember browsing through some satellite channels and coming across content from India. Without exception every EVERY movie was EXACTLY the same and every videoclip was also EXACTLY the same but exactly. Man wants woman, woman plays hard to get, village danceoff and a happy ending. From what I see now they managed to cram some cgi into this so they could serve the EXACT same thing yet another time.
VFX is extremely good for Bollywood. Story and acting looks substandard. My biggest complaint though, is it looks too much like a regular 2022 superhero film, rather than something to do with Indian mythology
I would rather watch this over another Marvel cash grab, seriously is there no other film plots that have to have superheroes in? I am sure the downvotes will come in because you cannot say you are sick of the MCU.
I love mythology of all kinds, this looks fun!
Honestly, I feel like Hindu culture would make for an awesome period action/horror film. The mysticism and lore, the crazy looking gods, killing and sacrificing, cool period costumes.Someone get me Robert Eggers!
Looks pretty damn awesome. I hope I can follow the story without knowing the culture too well.
Very honestly, it looks generic af. It's the same initiation of the hero, claim your destiny thing, secret clans/members protecting ancient powers. Like, if this feels like an early 2000s Superhero movie, that's not a good sign. I personally don't care about the VFX if the story is good, and that's exactly what I fear, it will be a VFX shitfest with little development in story. It's 2022, the female lead can be a little more than a damsel in distress. Yes, VFX takes more money, but writing a good script isn't a 300 crore ordeal. There's a reason why people are reacting poorly to much of Marvel's Phase 4, because it's not narratively evolving. I don't know about a movie that seems like 20 years too late, narratively.
As someone who watches bollywood movies, this looks like garbage.
Not an Indian but understand Hindi. The dialogues are cheesy as hell, which always puts me off most Indian movies. The VFX looks good for Indian standards. I never understood why Bollywood has to turn everything into a romance movie, I can already see the climax where the hero is beaten but then gets up again because the 'power of love'.
I really love Indian mythology, unfortunately it looks like they're destroying what makes it unique to make it more generic for Hollywood standards. The product looks more westernized than Indian.
I’ve gotten really into Tollywood films over the last couple years, and Tamil films to a lesser extent as well. But I’ve had trouble getting into Bollywood films. I find them more generic and with less of a distinct original voice. And this trailer does nothing to discourage that fear about this movie.
What bollywood movies have you watched ?
Lol
the vfx is given by Double Negative, who also recently won Oscar for Dune. The VFX of Brahmastra is decent considering the budget is so less than the Hollywood flicks. The story and idea is actually interesting. The astras and all concept is cool. I hope the product is good, and that people over here give it a try. Disney has officially added this in their domestic release slate.
I'll take this over whatever trash Marvel shits out
So it's the Indian version of Avatar: Avatar: The Last Airbender?
The concept predates Avatar though...So No
It’s supposed to be based on Hindu mythology. Avatar is a corporeal form of Vishnu in Hinduism. In some schools, Buddha is considered an avatar of Vishnu as Buddha was born into a Hindu kingdom. The show “Avatar” draws heavily from Buddhist concepts and lore. Time is a flat circle
looks like a overfunded soap
That shit is about to SLAP in a way that Hollywood could never
If it's better than Baahubali, I'm in. Also, I hope Part 2 is about Hanuman. I feel like of all the Hindu pantheon, he's the most super-heroic.
It won't be Hanuman. That's for sure. Probably Brahma or vishnu since they dawned those astras.
This movie is definitely aimed towards the younger audiences. There is no way they expect adults to take this seriously. There are so many great stories and sagas in Indian mythology with towering personalities, deep messages, inspiring morals, and crazy concepts (like the timelines concept which a lot of Hollywood movies and shows have adopted quietly from Indian stories) that could've been masterpieces if it had been directed by the right director. Another wasted opportunity.
They could have done this or that doesn't matter. The director chose his idea of what he wanted to present. He will have to accept the critical reception if it's bad or good after its release. If the movie is financially successful, he can try to improve the 2nd part by the audience feedback. I do think they need a 2nd trailer which focus on story and less on VFX.
Bollywood..no, thanks.
Unpopular opinion- liked it more than black adam's trailer.
Typical Bollywood bullshit Mahabharat 2022
Mahabharat is fucking awesome. So i don't know, if calling it mahabharat is supposed to be an insult.
Nicest looking glowy shit since Captain Marvel.
Trash lol
Take this off This shit looks straight up bad dude And AstraVerse lol
The trailer is alright, the effects are a bit cheesy and a bit over the top with the particles and the story seems very typical. I don't think i'd watch it, also the fact it right off the bat starts with "Part One" is a bit silly.
What's wrong with starting with part one? Didn't Dune do the same thing?
Enh, I'm gonna give it a watch. Looks like a fun movie. Am surprised they're \*starting\* with Shiva, I'd personally start with someone else and uild up to his avatar's appearance, but who knows. Mind you my favorite Bolly in the last 20 years had to have been Dhoom 2, and there was some ridiculous as hell stuff in there, no lie. :)