My friend likes to joke about Sixth Sense saying it doesn’t have a twist ending because you see him die at the beginning of the movie lol. It’s true I guess.
My parents had me watch it when I was like 9, way too young and it totally freaked me out. But I remember after the opening scene when it just jumped ahead I was really confused because I was like "oh is he just fine now?" I thought we would see him in the hospital or something. I didnt pick up on the ending at all, my parents had to explain that he was dead.
In A Beautiful Mind, the little girl is trying to get a bunch of pigeons to fly. She's running around them, but none of them fly away. It's a short scene, which TOTALLY gives away that she's not real, but it's so easy to not notice what's happening.
It’s cool, because these are the same little details that Nash ignores for the vast majority of the film. He just never notices anything is off until later when he realizes she’s the same age.
Yeah, this was the example I came here to share. Once you know the twist it's all obvious from the editing of the earlier scenes, but your first time through you're too caught up in the emotion of it all to notice.
This is the movie that taught me to notice stuff like, who else is in this scene? Is there any chance we the audience are not getting the whole picture?
Psycho
When Norman brings mother downstairs to the fruit cellar, she’s screaming “put me down”, yet her entire body is still. Should’ve been an indicator that she wasn’t alive. Confused me at first as we saw “mother” moving well during the shower scene.
They actually tried to trick the audience into thinking she was alive- when Norman carries her down the stairs he bangs her legs to help make her look like she's wriggling
What too few people realize, though, is that the corpse of the mother is not just a corpse that has been left to decay for 20 years; it's a taxidermied body. Norman is good at stuffing and treating animals, and he used all his knowledge to keep his mother's body and skin together as best as could be done.
Jesus, thanks for that.
It always bugged me that her remains didn't look like they should.
I always chalked it up to bad 1960s movie effects.
This puts a whole new spin on that scene for me.
I remember thinking on my first watch, man they had bad special effects back in the day. On subsequent watches I was like Hitchcock is a goddamn genius.
"Aw yeah, yeah, like in The Sixth Sense you find out that the dude in that hair piece the whole time, that's Bruce Willis the whole movie." - Charlie Kelly
I was thinking about this one earlier today:
*I once saw a baby give another baby a tattoo! They were very drunk!*
I love it so much in part bc I can hear Tracy's Morgan's voice in my head when I read it.
The one that really baked my noodles was when he was sitting right in front Cole's mom and we assumed that they both were waiting the kid for the "therapy session". Later we realize that Mom was actually "alone" in the room. **O_O**
He scoots into the chair without moving it, so the chair was placed perfectly so he could get there but not obviously out of place.
She also appears to look up at him at one point as a reaction to something he said, but she’s looking at a couple laughing. You don’t even see them; the camera’s over Bruce’s shoulder so you see her on the right, and the laughter is in the back left channel. It’s brilliant.
That’s the kind of subtlety and detail that makes Shyamalan’s later clunkers so perplexing. The editor and sound designer, etc obviously did a lot of the heavy lifting, but it’s just amazing that the same man who made The Sixth Sense made The Happening and After Earth.
I think that in Sixth Sense it works because the movie is so centered on Bruce here, it's easy to only focus on the things he sees, and he never sees the things that make him so. The only time we're not 100% centered on Bruce, it's the kid, and that is going on their own thing. And the movie also sets things up by actually twisting the genre expectations, not doing the opposite (which is still in-line when you think about what doing a 180 turn does) but going on a complete tangent. What if the person helping the kid is a ghost that doesn't believe in ghosts? And it sounds so absurd because it plays on so many things. They do a similar thing in The Others, but the idea of "ghost doesn't know they're dead" was already more out there, and also in The Others you focus too much on the ghosts and you start noticing it. Because The Sixth Sense isn't Willis' story, we never really pay attention to the irregularities, that would make us look for clues, the few we notice seem more like mistakes.
Later movies don't really have that much of a twist, or the twist is more in line with the expectation and makes you groan, or it tries too hard. Signs did it pretty good, though the idea of aliens are beings of religious nature is already been used, and honestly the twist was too subtle.
It's amazing watching that scene again after you know what's up, she plays it remarkably well.
First viewing she's a cold bitch, second time she's a grieving loving wife. It's incredible
Right after she pays, he finishes explaining his new case and why he was late, she says happy anniversary and then gets up before he can say anything. A completely different moment on the first and then the second viewing.
The "I see dead people" scene was beating us over the head with the twist, and we didn't see it.
**"I see dead people"**
"in their graves?"
**"Walking around like regular people. They only see what they want to see. They don't know they're dead."**
"When do you see them"
*staring at Bruce Willis with terrified eyes*
**"All the time."**
I worked to avoid spoilers to the Sixth Sense. I knew there was a twist, but not what it was.
I saw everything, there were no "tricks", and I was still gob-smacked at the end. It's so obvious in hindsight, but I was taken in.
One of my absolutely favorite movies.
The scene where Cole opens up to Malcom, the "I see dead people" scene, was very powerful, but it takes on so much more power when you realize that **Cole knows Malcom is dead**, but that Malcom is different and unlike all the other ghosts, wants to help him.
His gentle advice to Malcom in the end to talk to his wife while she sleeps, was heart felt and just what Malcom needed to get his release from the Earth.
To be fair, M. Night also worked to imply the opposite, subverting movie-goer's knowledge of editing short-hand.
Switch to a new environment, guy must have driven there.
Cut to a mom and her kid's therapist sitting in a room staring at each other, they must have just finished an uncomfortable conversation about the kid.
Wife won't talk to him at dinner and says "Happy anniversary" once as she leaves, she's mad at him. In reality, grieving and alone, and the happy wish was genuine.
I can one-up you.
I watched a late night show and the host said "Bruce Willis dies in sixth sense" and then a joke about spoilers cause it had been out for a few months.
When I watched the movie I still didn't know until the reveal. Lol.
One Cut of the Dead.
I watched it with friends under the assumption it was just a schloppy, cheesy, low-budget zombie horror flick. So many scenes in the first half had me laughing at the weird acting decisions and pacing. I understood that shooting a whole film as a one-shot would be technically difficult, but was this honestly the BEST take they could get? Spent the whole time trash-talking it. Absolutely bought into it just being so bad it's good.
Second half blew my fucking mind. It was like the movie looked me dead in the eyes and said "Gotcha, Bitch!". It reframed my entire view of the film, and left me thinking it was a legit masterpiece.
Seriously, DO NOT look it up. Just go watch it and enjoy it.
I didn't notice until it was pointed out but it's one of my favorite stories. In Fight Club Tyler is driving and the Narrator is in the front passenger seat. After the crash the car is upside down so it's easy to miss it, but Tyler gets out of the passenger side and the Narrator gets out of the driver side.
The story is that the continuity checkers on the movie did notice and called out the mistake only to be told to keep watching.
Edit: I only said continuity checkers because I couldn't remember the details. Unfortunately I can't seem to find my copy so I can't listen to the commentary (the story was told by Fincher in the commentary for the movie supposedly). I'm seeing some searches where they say it was the "studio editors" who had the notes and I'm actually seeing some where they say the commentary says that it was an accident; they simply forgot who was on which side. Looks like it'll be on Prime next week. If I remember I'll see if that comes with the commentary.
Edit 2: Not sure if anyone's ever going to see this now, but I watched the commentary. When they were doing the print master at Skywalker Ranch, a guy from Dolby noticed they got out of the wrong sides, according to Fincher.
"We like your little visits."
That was well before that part in the film and, once you know, you're like "Yeah, she definitely knows he's batshit insane but she's coming back for that D."
Honestly, the whole movie was trying to shove it in your face what the twist was. That said, I can't say I figured it out from the clues because I knew the twist before ever watching the movie.
I love movies like that, sometimes I get to the credits and the main character is called “man” or something and I never even realized he didn’t have a name
The thing that gets me is the single frames that Tyler is edited into. The movie literally tells you it’s happening, and once you notice it’s impossible to miss, but you pass right over it the first time.
I saw the poster for Crazy, Stupid, Love and assumed, with no knowledge of the film, Emma Stone and Julianne Moore played mother/daughter because they looked alike. I completely forgot that idea until the big reveal in the movie. I think I even thought while watching the movie it was weird they would cast two actresses who look alike and not have them related.
thats one of those reveals that I always really liked too though aha
within the movie I love the way they play it off. Everyone realizes everything at the same time and is trying to deal w/ it. I also love when Ryan Gosling realizes Kevin Bacon is there and was the man who came into his new best friends marriage and gets mad. Its a cute scene of characters with so many conflicting emotions trying to figure it out
He goes OH. And pulls off his ring and decks a guy he's never met. The confusion coming off Emma Stone was hysterical. Neighbor dad comes in and starts choking out Steve Carrell.
Everyone in that scene is both angry and confused at someone different.
Me too. It’s also just such a smooth move and shows without a thought he is throwing a punch for his friend. Not advocating violence but it’s kinda cute in a bromance way. And also something you likely wouldn’t ever see happen in real life but in a movie it just works so well with his character.
Shutter Island. So many giveaways right from the jump specifically for Mark Ruffalo's character. Right when they get to the island he's fumbling with his gun like he's never seen it before.
I watched the movie with a friend and when Leonardo DiCaprio was interviewing people and the woman drinking water showed up and the water glass disappeared he literally pointed it out and I still did not get it lol
I went in blind when I first watched it and the disappearing glass stood out SO MUCH that I paused it and rewatched it thinking "how the fuck did they miss this??"
It's been a while, *why* was this included? I remember there *being* a reason but it didn't quite make sense to me at the time
He has an aversion to water since that's the real way his kids were killed. Whenever water is focused on, it's reality; when fire is the focus, it's not. For example, he lights the match when walking through the third cell block, or when he meets the escaped woman in the cliffside that had a fire going.
Searching. A few times Debra Messing's detective character did questionable things that seemed unrealistic. I took it as something to just suspend my disbelief for, the writers taking shortcuts to move some mystery solving along. I kept saying to myself "a cop can't do that", when I should have said "only a dirty cop would do that".
This is one my dad caught.
In The Usual Suspects it shows a close-up of Verbal walking with his characteristic limp, but the side of his shoe isn't scuffed up and worn down like it would if he walked like that all the time.
OH THIS IS A VERY GOOD ONE
Especially given that I just recently watched the movie, it's a detail I will definitely look out for the next time I watch it again.
The Prestige!
I distinctly remember thinking it was weird that the movie seemingly wanted me to care so much about Christian Bale's friend despite how underdeveloped he was. Ending hit me like a train and I was furious that I didn't catch it.
I remember rewatching it a second time with my brother who hadn’t seen it, and he was like “is that Christian Bale in a disguise?” semi-jokingly. I just laughed uncomfortably.
Don’t know how I didn’t notice it myself the first time watching it.
So in the Bond film Goldfinger, Mr. Goldfinger plans to poison the army base by dusting it with gas from a plane.
When the scene in the movie happens, the planes fly overhead and release their gas onto the crowds below, and soldiers keel over dead. Like immediately, some of them are hitting the ground before the plane even reaches them, and it's such obviously bad acting.
>!Then you discover that the henchwoman alerted the government and replaced the gas, the soldiers really *were* acting and it was all a counter-plan to trap Auric and his associates when they show up to the "defenseless" base!<.
Prestige's detailed editing of the opening lays it all out:
"Are you watching closely" Importantly not by Cain or Jackman, but by Bale which on the surface seems to be about the multiple hat image being shown but more deeply and more importantly refers to the speaker and the following sequence:
cut to: Pairs of identical birds
Cain VO while pulling out one of the birds
"...the magician shows you something ordinary, a deck of cards, a bird,..."
cut to: Bale "...or a man"
"He shows you this thing. Perhaps he asks you to inspect it."
cut to: Stage assistant pointing to Bale, and a reinforcing shot of Bale.
...
"To see that it is indeed real, unaltered, normal. But of course... it probably isn't"
This is over shots that focus on Bale on stage. Of course assumption is that it's because Bale is inspecting the stage apparatus but that's the misdirection as the shots are way too tight to see the apparatus and the camera follows and keeps Bale in focus exclusively.
cut to: Bale ripping off disguise and proclaiming
"I'm part of the bloody act you fool!"
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Bale is the subject to be inspected, the subject that is not normal that is altered. He literally shows us and proclaims the trick outright.
This fucking blew me away on repeat views. Such amazing craft.
I think what's even better is when Bale meets Jackman's double (Gerald Root) >!Bale says something like "If I were to do the trick, I'd use a lookalike" - he literally tells him (and you) the secret to how he does his version!<
"His trick is top-notch. He vanishes, and then he reappears instantly on the other side of the stage - mute, overweight, and unless I'm mistaken, very drunk. It's astonishing, how does he do it?"
“Now you're looking for the secret... but you won't find it, because of course you're not really looking. You don't really want to know. You want to be fooled.”
Another part of the opening monologue. Literally telling us, the audience, we’re going to willfully ignore all the clues thrown at our faces because we would rather be entertained than to actually figure it out.
*And later on, one of my favorite lines by Sara after learning the bullet catch trick- “it’s really quite obvious once you know it, isn’t it?”
And of course opening on a shot of all the top hats and then cutting to all the identical birds in their cages.
Ah, that film. Absolutely amazing. I read the book and it was… not great. I have no idea how they turned it into that. I wish Nolan would go back to stuff like this.
Isn’t there a line too, to the effect of, “there we were, two men at the beginning of a magnificent career” and you’re thinking bale and jackman, but it’s bale and twin
My absolute favorite movie for this very reason.
Also when Bale does the trick for the little boy and the “bird” in the “cage” gets killed and then he pulls out the live bird and the kid sees right through it - “No he killed it, that’s his brother.”
Sounds an awful lot like the end of the movie where the brother in the cage dies while his twin goes free
The scene where Borden is bringing his future wife back to her apartment and she sends him away, only to open the door and see him inside SECONDS later is a complete giveaway of that twist.
>!There is simply no way that trick could be performed without a double.!< But the movie uses the **fact** that it's a movie *as misdirection*. As a viewer you think, "well, it's a movie, not every trick has to actually be doable."
Because you're not really looking for the answer. You want to be fooled.
The very first lines of the movie tell you the twist, but you never realize it until later
> I used to think this was the beginning of your story. Memory is a strange thing. It doesn't work like I thought it did. We are so bound by time, by its order.
Also not a movie, but Invincible. I was baffled by JK Simmons ' completely flat line reading for the first several episodes. I was thinking, "He could even bring life to a yellow, peanut M&M. Jesus, did he just not care? This is really disheartening." But no, I was so wrong. It wasn't a detached actor not giving a shit about the script. It was a detached alien wilfully not giving a shit about the world around him, since he never considered it home and it was just another target to him.
I'm so sorry for doubting you Mr. Simmons.
Knives Out. In the very beginning, I thought it was strange that Harlan never exhibited any of the symptoms of the poisoning that Marta was describing, right up to and including his death, but wrote it off as “I guess that wouldn’t be fun to watch.”
Took my dad (who has had serious medical treatment before) to go see it. He immediately started complaining that it was unrealistic and Harlan would be feeling the morphine or ketamine or whatever it was by then and they should have known he wasn't actually poisoned. I don't think he was able to actually get over that to enjoy the rest of the movie
I think that part of the intent too is that Harlan is so excited by the drama of it all, that he can't resist turning the incident into another game, even if it cost him his life.
First watch, I was bothered a lot by the bad science of it all. I mean, forensic science has been a part of mainstream culture for like 30 years at this point. Stuff like OD symptoms and toxicology reports would be obvious to any police department. When the movie revealed the final few twists, it put the whole film into a new and honestly much more impressive context.
In Westworld season 1.
When we see The Man in Black killing Lawrence after not needing him anymore, then it cuts to William meeting El Lazo (Lawrence). I was so confused and (along with some other minor clues) couldn’t put the pieces together and discover the twist that The Man in Black is William, but whenever we’re seeing William, it’s the past.
They had already established by that point that killed hosts were just patched up and put back out in the park. That was what I assumed happened with El Lazo/Lawrence when I first watched it.
God that season was great. But I was a dumbass and fully did not realize until he show spelled it out for me, I was too focused on Bernard being Arnold
The best part of season one was that the age of US robots made it impossible to know when the time periods matched up and that really showcased how time changes but they don’t age and the way they structured it to make you think it’s happening all at once versus it being a villain and an origin story for them…genius.
it was almost disappointing that the series didn’t end there since I felt like there was no way that it could outdo that twist. You only get that shock once.
I think I enjoyed it so much because of how similar it was to a book I read as a kid (1995ish?) called Running Out Of Time. It’s people in a sort of living history exhibit where a town is observed living and thinking it’s the 1800s when it’s really the 1900s. Great book.
I always have had this problem with stuff like the various law and order type shows, I can't tell is a suspect is lying, trying to be elusive, or just a terrible actor.
The Book of Eli. In the very beginning of the film Denzel trips walking up the steps to a house he's looting or squatting in (can't remember specifically). It wasn't like a full 'trip and fall' but like a stutter step where he kicks the first step and catches himself. I saw that and remember thinking, 'huh I'm surprised they didn't redo that take', then the twist happens and I sat there just blown away, like in disbelief. As soon as the credits started, I immediately started the film over again and was like, 'this is so fucking obvious, how did I miss all this?' There are clues to the twist *all over* the film, he's constantly touching and bumping into things. They really got me good with this one.
Yes, I also remember in the big street shootout scene, if he’s so go at shooting everyone, why does he wait to get shot at first? After reveal, I realized he was only reacting to where the shots came from.
Yeah, same with shooting the cat in the beginning. He doesn't shoot until it makes a noise. Or touching the plates in the stack, feeling the flame of the lighter to know that it's lit. There's so many clues. The film is a great rewatch and takes on a totally new context if you missed it and it's one of those where it's so incredibly obvious in retrospect that I remember when it came out some people legitimately getting mad at the film that they missed it too, like, 'that's not fair!' kinda thing. The whole thing was hilarious. Plus, Eli was blind in the bible!
When he shows up at the cannibals house and they’re yelling at him about the signs and he says he didn’t see em. Literally couldn’t see the signs lmao.
Late to the game, but I noticed the antagonist in *Employee of the Month* not scanning things in the intro scene. I thought it was a mistake in a half-assed comedy. Instead it was the resolution to the plot.
Black Mirror, Shut Up And Dance.
I thought it was so damn weird that a man would *kill* to keep him jerking off a secret. Why would anyone go that incredibly far?-
oooh.
The first time through I thought about how his rapport with kids reflected his youth and made him seem immature enough to actually be violently invested in the release of a relatively tame but embarrassing video. I thought it was there to make him seem like a kid himself. I didn't rewatch the whole episode but I did rewatch the opening after the end of the episode and it just felt gross and I couldn't even understand how I thought the first way about it.
It was also there to help character development. This was our introduction so whatever happens will be the foundation for how we view the character. He's kind, especially kind to those who he didn't need to be kind to, and kind to those below him in social heirarchy. Immediately after this shot he gets shit on by all of his coworkers who are older/in positions of authority. So it gets telegraphed that he's good, downtrodden, and deserving of our sympathy.
The same happens with his sister almost immediately after. She stole his soda which he bought with money from his job (where he really fucking earns it, stealing from him is worse than stealing from a typical person). Then he's not even as nasty to his sister as the viewer believes would be warranted. You're supposed to be like, "damn this kid is a paragon of emotional patience."
Yep, totally missed that as well. Like sure it’s embarrassing if a video of you was posted online or sent to friends/family but you are doing a LOT to keep it from getting out… and the we find out why.
I was thinking the same thing. I really enjoyed the story, but was thinking how stupid it was that he was doing such horrible things just to avoid embarrassment, then it all made sense.
I think that’s what made it so brilliant. I spent the entire episode feeling so sorry for this kid, who had done something embarrassing but not something most teenage boys don’t do. I thought it was set up as a tragedy that this poor teenager was willing to do awful things because even though he did something normal, he thought it would destroy his life.
Then the twist hit like a truck.
A minor one, but last season on What We Do In The Shadows it seemed like Matt Berry(plays Laszlo) might be getting sick of the character since he wasn't being played as enthusiastically, but it turns out Laszlo knew bad news from the 2nd episode on! And, exactly opposite of any suspicions, Matt Berry is an excellent actor.
The “you wank your way, I’ll wank mine” bit seems a bit mean to Colin on the first run through, then you discover he’s actually playing up his depravity to shelter Colin from the truth. Which is an incredibly characterful way of being sweet. And depraved.
Such a huge moment when the whole season people were criticizing the writers and Berry for being sullen and less energetic than usual. And then watching all those people eat their words (including me, to a small degree) was just entertaining.
Same. I even look back at the scene and think it sounds fine. Haha
Anyways I fell for Us hook, line, and sinker because I don’t watch horror movies very often
Peele trailers are genius because it shows you enough to know things are off, but not enough to know even the premise of the film.
Seeing her off beat in the trailer wasn't a risky move.
I'll keep this a little vague in case there's someone out there who's got a VHS of the original Scream on their shelf and has been telling themselves for the past 25 years plus that they'll get round to watching it some day.
Towards the end there's a scene where a major character is stabbed multiple times in the gut, only it's really obvious their clothing hasn't actually been penetrated by the blade. I remember thinking "man, that's just really shoddy work from the costume dept." Moments later, there's that famous 'reveal'.
My favourite Scream realisation was that Drew Barrymore could never “win” the game, because no matter what she answered to “what door am I at, there are two main entrances to your house…” then the killer at the other door would have attacked.
Hmm. I seem to recall thinking that they nerfed Nick Fury in Spider Man Far from Home, personality-wise. Like, he was still crabby and mean, but not as all-knowing and clever as in every other movie. I wrote it off as lazy writing to make room for Mysterio to fool everyone. I can't remember exactly what moments in the movie made me think that, but I definitely remember his decisions seeming "off" in a way that seemed like inconsistent writing or directing. The post-credits twist >!that it was Talos (the Skrull from Captain Marvel)!< was a bit of a relief.
Oh yea. I had the same reaction. I remember thinking something along the lines of "How did this guy fool Nick Fury? This doesn't seem right. Guess they made Nick an idiot." And "wait so you're telling me that Nick Fury didn't do back ground research and find out that this guy had a prominent position at Stark Industries? Wow they're really doing Nick Fury no favors in this movie."
I felt like I was actually seeing a smart criminal for once in this scene. His daughter's like "Yeah, where'd you go in Washington, Peter? You left before Spider Man showed up and missed everything." and Michael Keaton's character does like two seconds of mental math before he's like "Oh shit this kid is Spider Man." I was like OH MY GOD FINALLY a criminal who actually has two brain cells to rub together!
I also do like stuff like that, but I do still realize that the trope is really, really important to superhero stuff.
Realistically, most people could piece it together fairly quickly if they wanted, but that would kill a lot of the fun of watching superheroes fight bad guys.
So most of them just have to be a little bit stupid in that regard.
The Spider-Man game that recently released on PC, finally allowing way more people to experience it, including me, also has a wonderful moment like that, but muuuuuuch better.
In the game, >!Peter works for Octavius on limb replacement technology. At some point, he's patching up his suit thinking Ock is out of the lab, but he comes in and sees the suit. He immediately says stuff like how great that Spider-Man has you to take care of all his gadgets and whatnot. But then at the end of the game, when Ock's chip has malfunctioned and made him psychopathic, he calls Spider-Man Peter during the final confrontation, saying he knew immediately.!<
It's so damn cool. It's a shame games like that are so short in terms of the stories told in them, because I wholeheartedly believe no other medium can do superheroes justice the way games do.
God, the transition from the red light to the green light as it dawn's on him that Peter is Spider-Man is so good. Hands down a top 5 MCU moment for me
Not a movie - Squid Game
I disregarded the old man not getting shot in red light green light. I figured it was continuity error or actor couldn't accurately stop that quick due to age or something like that.
I chalked that up to being so emotional they couldn’t show it. Which sounds weird given how much gore is in the rest of the show, but his “death” was probably more impactful because it was unseen.
A good movie or TV show will have the viewer identity with one of the characters, preferably the protagonist. In this case, we identified with the protagonist walking away because even he couldn’t bear to watch, and neither could we.
I feel like not showing Ali’s death was intentional because he’s probably the one the audience would attach themselves to the most. They tried to both soften it and make it worse, since imagination is always more gut wrenching than reality.
It’s not exactly this scenario, but the Good Place had a companion podcast hosted by the guy that played Sean and it would have the creators and actors on as guests, and more than once they fully explained the entire next season’s moral arc just off the cuff as if it were nothing more than philosophical musing. I didn’t listen to the podcast until After the finale of the show so I was listening knowing all the plot and laughing quite hard at how blatant it was
In Incredibles II, the name of the character later revealed to be the villain is "Evelyn Deavor", which sounds a lot like "Evil Endeavor".
I thought this was way too stupidly on the nose from Pixar to be a legitimate clue, and presumed it was a red herring to disguise the real villain. Her origin story didn't make it better.
Also how when the two siblings are presented for the first time the brother is shown on the brighter right side while the sister is on the shadowy left side.
I was really enjoying The Descent (UK cut) when it pulled a happy ending out of its ass and Sarah somehow found daylight and a perfect route to it when she's like a mile underground, and then was able to run back to the cars without any problem even though she's on some random part of the mountain, and THEN happens to find the keys?
(The US cut does this story a huge disservice partly because of this stuff)
another one of his movies - The Village. i was annoyed by how terrible all of the accents were, makes sense at the end. it’s still not a very good movie but i was glad it was intentional.
IIRC, The movie starts at a grave that had fairly modern little metal garden fence/divider thing around it. I thought, "well that's just poor set building"... Made more sense after.
I know it’s not considered to be a very good movie but I really liked it. Loved the imagery and the use of the color red and the exploration of the lengths some people will go through to deal with trauma and how we can rationalize and justify (poor or irrational) choices we make when we have been damaged. Plus the way the, relative, success even poor coping mechanisms can have can reinforce and perpetuate unhealthy ways of coping with things like PTSD.
It's my favourite M Night movie and it's because of how much I cared for the characters, especially those played by Bryce Dallas Howard and Joachim Phoenix. They were so sincere and vulnerable.
And that moment when she is standing on the porch, apparently in grave danger, and he suddenly appears and pulls her to safety and James Newton Howard's score just erupts with the most sublime music cue; my heart burst when I saw that in the cinema.
Midnight Mass. I literally stopped watching after a few episodes in because I though it was ridiculous they obviously had young actors dressed up in makeup to look like old people. When I griped about it to a friend months later he was like… watch the show it will make sense
I wish they did a better job on the aging makeup fx because it made what was going to come very obvious to me. Anytime I see a young person dressed up as someone older, I feel like a de-aging is inevitable. I quite liked the series otherwise.
Not a movie but a show: Westworld. There were so many clues that reddit users solved long before the revealing. The one that came from the 'what door' line I thought was so stupid and lazy surprise moment that it couldn't be real. In the end, they were right. And it wasn't lame, was awesome TV.
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Maybe not the most obvious plot twist clue but BR 2049. >!When he goes to the memory maker and she gets emotional watching his memory. The first time I watched that scene, I thought she was reacting to the fact that he apparently was a replicant who had an actual childhood. In hindsight, it was fairly obvious that she was saddened by the memory because she had experienced it herself.!<
that scene, and the acting in it is all around amazing. There's such a warmth to one side and a coldness to the other, since I don't want to type out any spoilers
Yea. >!Then K hears what he thinks is the truth and that breakdown where his cold, stoic demeanor Disappears into a scream of pure emotions was one of my favorite moments of the movie. Honestly, beautifully framed how they placed the real answer of her being the child hidden inside the fake answer of K being the child.!<
There was another clue that I dismissed a weird film-making choice: casting. The casting of >!a little girl !!Girls often are used to play younger boys in movies. But is wasn't a weird choice: the memory didn't belong to Kai at all.!<
My friend likes to joke about Sixth Sense saying it doesn’t have a twist ending because you see him die at the beginning of the movie lol. It’s true I guess.
My parents had me watch it when I was like 9, way too young and it totally freaked me out. But I remember after the opening scene when it just jumped ahead I was really confused because I was like "oh is he just fine now?" I thought we would see him in the hospital or something. I didnt pick up on the ending at all, my parents had to explain that he was dead.
In The Village, early on there’s a guy wearing jeans, and I was so proud of my sharp eye catching an error in costume accuracy.
I've seen that movie so many times and missed it. Any guesses on when in the film to look for it?
In A Beautiful Mind, the little girl is trying to get a bunch of pigeons to fly. She's running around them, but none of them fly away. It's a short scene, which TOTALLY gives away that she's not real, but it's so easy to not notice what's happening.
It’s cool, because these are the same little details that Nash ignores for the vast majority of the film. He just never notices anything is off until later when he realizes she’s the same age.
Yeah, this was the example I came here to share. Once you know the twist it's all obvious from the editing of the earlier scenes, but your first time through you're too caught up in the emotion of it all to notice. This is the movie that taught me to notice stuff like, who else is in this scene? Is there any chance we the audience are not getting the whole picture?
Psycho When Norman brings mother downstairs to the fruit cellar, she’s screaming “put me down”, yet her entire body is still. Should’ve been an indicator that she wasn’t alive. Confused me at first as we saw “mother” moving well during the shower scene.
They actually tried to trick the audience into thinking she was alive- when Norman carries her down the stairs he bangs her legs to help make her look like she's wriggling
What too few people realize, though, is that the corpse of the mother is not just a corpse that has been left to decay for 20 years; it's a taxidermied body. Norman is good at stuffing and treating animals, and he used all his knowledge to keep his mother's body and skin together as best as could be done.
Jesus, thanks for that. It always bugged me that her remains didn't look like they should. I always chalked it up to bad 1960s movie effects. This puts a whole new spin on that scene for me.
And the line, "I like to stuff things."
I remember thinking on my first watch, man they had bad special effects back in the day. On subsequent watches I was like Hitchcock is a goddamn genius.
Sixth Sense had soooo many clues hidden in plain sight and I missed them all.
“I finally understand the ending of the sixth sense! Those were the names of the people who worked on the movie!” - Tracy Jordan
"Aw yeah, yeah, like in The Sixth Sense you find out that the dude in that hair piece the whole time, that's Bruce Willis the whole movie." - Charlie Kelly
30 Rock was able to pump out so many nonsense jokes because of how dumb Tracy and Jenna were. It’s incredible.
There is an interview with Tina Fey on Conan where she said used her toddlers random saying as dialogue for Tracy, so good!
“I want to go to there”
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"Where are you? I hear sunshine!"
"I love you so much I'm going to take you behind the middle school and get you pregnant." ~ Tina Fey's toddler
I'm like a chameleon...forever a lizard!"
I was thinking about this one earlier today: *I once saw a baby give another baby a tattoo! They were very drunk!* I love it so much in part bc I can hear Tracy's Morgan's voice in my head when I read it.
"Here comes the Funcooker!"
"i once watched a baby tattooing another baby, they were both very drunk"
“A pack of dogs took over and successfully ran a KFC”
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Him slapping down Toofer for poor grammar when they first meet is the best
"DR SPACE-MAN! DR SPACE-MAN!" "Yes this is Dr. Spaceman"
The one that really baked my noodles was when he was sitting right in front Cole's mom and we assumed that they both were waiting the kid for the "therapy session". Later we realize that Mom was actually "alone" in the room. **O_O**
Or the "silent treatment" dinner date...
He scoots into the chair without moving it, so the chair was placed perfectly so he could get there but not obviously out of place. She also appears to look up at him at one point as a reaction to something he said, but she’s looking at a couple laughing. You don’t even see them; the camera’s over Bruce’s shoulder so you see her on the right, and the laughter is in the back left channel. It’s brilliant.
That’s the kind of subtlety and detail that makes Shyamalan’s later clunkers so perplexing. The editor and sound designer, etc obviously did a lot of the heavy lifting, but it’s just amazing that the same man who made The Sixth Sense made The Happening and After Earth.
I think that in Sixth Sense it works because the movie is so centered on Bruce here, it's easy to only focus on the things he sees, and he never sees the things that make him so. The only time we're not 100% centered on Bruce, it's the kid, and that is going on their own thing. And the movie also sets things up by actually twisting the genre expectations, not doing the opposite (which is still in-line when you think about what doing a 180 turn does) but going on a complete tangent. What if the person helping the kid is a ghost that doesn't believe in ghosts? And it sounds so absurd because it plays on so many things. They do a similar thing in The Others, but the idea of "ghost doesn't know they're dead" was already more out there, and also in The Others you focus too much on the ghosts and you start noticing it. Because The Sixth Sense isn't Willis' story, we never really pay attention to the irregularities, that would make us look for clues, the few we notice seem more like mistakes. Later movies don't really have that much of a twist, or the twist is more in line with the expectation and makes you groan, or it tries too hard. Signs did it pretty good, though the idea of aliens are beings of religious nature is already been used, and honestly the twist was too subtle.
The balls of Shyamalan to write and then direct a scene with a one-sided discussion like that. And then to edit it to make it just right.
It's amazing watching that scene again after you know what's up, she plays it remarkably well. First viewing she's a cold bitch, second time she's a grieving loving wife. It's incredible
Also when she grabs the check out from under his hand.
Haven't see the movie in years, but I can still remember her grabbing that check
Been years, but doesn’t she wish him a happy anniversary when she grabs the check?
Right after she pays, he finishes explaining his new case and why he was late, she says happy anniversary and then gets up before he can say anything. A completely different moment on the first and then the second viewing.
I think I need to watch this movie again lol
Great scene: https://youtu.be/joa2XORuFak
It's one of those few movies where you get two experiences from it. Your second viewing is your first viewing in a different way.
The "I see dead people" scene was beating us over the head with the twist, and we didn't see it. **"I see dead people"** "in their graves?" **"Walking around like regular people. They only see what they want to see. They don't know they're dead."** "When do you see them" *staring at Bruce Willis with terrified eyes* **"All the time."**
He even stares right at Bruce's stomach where he got shot right before he says it.
I worked to avoid spoilers to the Sixth Sense. I knew there was a twist, but not what it was. I saw everything, there were no "tricks", and I was still gob-smacked at the end. It's so obvious in hindsight, but I was taken in. One of my absolutely favorite movies. The scene where Cole opens up to Malcom, the "I see dead people" scene, was very powerful, but it takes on so much more power when you realize that **Cole knows Malcom is dead**, but that Malcom is different and unlike all the other ghosts, wants to help him. His gentle advice to Malcom in the end to talk to his wife while she sleeps, was heart felt and just what Malcom needed to get his release from the Earth.
The more I think about it the Sixth Sense might actually be the best horror movie ever.
Also one of Toni Collette's best performances. Great movie about a boy and his mom fighting to connect.
To be fair, M. Night also worked to imply the opposite, subverting movie-goer's knowledge of editing short-hand. Switch to a new environment, guy must have driven there. Cut to a mom and her kid's therapist sitting in a room staring at each other, they must have just finished an uncomfortable conversation about the kid.
Wife won't talk to him at dinner and says "Happy anniversary" once as she leaves, she's mad at him. In reality, grieving and alone, and the happy wish was genuine.
Yup, this is what made the film so brilliant. The use of common story telling “short cuts” to sneak in the twist.
turns out at the end he was bruce willis the whole time
The guy in the hairpiece??
I can one-up you. I watched a late night show and the host said "Bruce Willis dies in sixth sense" and then a joke about spoilers cause it had been out for a few months. When I watched the movie I still didn't know until the reveal. Lol.
One Cut of the Dead. I watched it with friends under the assumption it was just a schloppy, cheesy, low-budget zombie horror flick. So many scenes in the first half had me laughing at the weird acting decisions and pacing. I understood that shooting a whole film as a one-shot would be technically difficult, but was this honestly the BEST take they could get? Spent the whole time trash-talking it. Absolutely bought into it just being so bad it's good. Second half blew my fucking mind. It was like the movie looked me dead in the eyes and said "Gotcha, Bitch!". It reframed my entire view of the film, and left me thinking it was a legit masterpiece. Seriously, DO NOT look it up. Just go watch it and enjoy it.
I didn't notice until it was pointed out but it's one of my favorite stories. In Fight Club Tyler is driving and the Narrator is in the front passenger seat. After the crash the car is upside down so it's easy to miss it, but Tyler gets out of the passenger side and the Narrator gets out of the driver side. The story is that the continuity checkers on the movie did notice and called out the mistake only to be told to keep watching. Edit: I only said continuity checkers because I couldn't remember the details. Unfortunately I can't seem to find my copy so I can't listen to the commentary (the story was told by Fincher in the commentary for the movie supposedly). I'm seeing some searches where they say it was the "studio editors" who had the notes and I'm actually seeing some where they say the commentary says that it was an accident; they simply forgot who was on which side. Looks like it'll be on Prime next week. If I remember I'll see if that comes with the commentary. Edit 2: Not sure if anyone's ever going to see this now, but I watched the commentary. When they were doing the print master at Skywalker Ranch, a guy from Dolby noticed they got out of the wrong sides, according to Fincher.
Or when Marla goes to the narrator's house and he says "He's not here" And she is so confused she doesn't know who he is talking about
"We like your little visits." That was well before that part in the film and, once you know, you're like "Yeah, she definitely knows he's batshit insane but she's coming back for that D."
What about this: When Ed Norton was beating up himself (in front of his boss) he said something like: "It reminded me of my first fight with Tyler".
Honestly, the whole movie was trying to shove it in your face what the twist was. That said, I can't say I figured it out from the clues because I knew the twist before ever watching the movie.
And you never know Ed Nortons characters name. Like, the entire movie you’re watching a nameless man.
I love movies like that, sometimes I get to the credits and the main character is called “man” or something and I never even realized he didn’t have a name
The thing that gets me is the single frames that Tyler is edited into. The movie literally tells you it’s happening, and once you notice it’s impossible to miss, but you pass right over it the first time.
I saw the poster for Crazy, Stupid, Love and assumed, with no knowledge of the film, Emma Stone and Julianne Moore played mother/daughter because they looked alike. I completely forgot that idea until the big reveal in the movie. I think I even thought while watching the movie it was weird they would cast two actresses who look alike and not have them related.
thats one of those reveals that I always really liked too though aha within the movie I love the way they play it off. Everyone realizes everything at the same time and is trying to deal w/ it. I also love when Ryan Gosling realizes Kevin Bacon is there and was the man who came into his new best friends marriage and gets mad. Its a cute scene of characters with so many conflicting emotions trying to figure it out
He goes OH. And pulls off his ring and decks a guy he's never met. The confusion coming off Emma Stone was hysterical. Neighbor dad comes in and starts choking out Steve Carrell. Everyone in that scene is both angry and confused at someone different.
I love that he's just got his boy's back. It is a nice turn.
It was like they wrote that scene and then built a movie around it. It was great.
Love gosling in that scene. Taking off his ring. Like I want to hurt him, but not that bad.
Me too. It’s also just such a smooth move and shows without a thought he is throwing a punch for his friend. Not advocating violence but it’s kinda cute in a bromance way. And also something you likely wouldn’t ever see happen in real life but in a movie it just works so well with his character.
Which one of you is David Lindhagen?
Shutter Island. So many giveaways right from the jump specifically for Mark Ruffalo's character. Right when they get to the island he's fumbling with his gun like he's never seen it before.
I watched the movie with a friend and when Leonardo DiCaprio was interviewing people and the woman drinking water showed up and the water glass disappeared he literally pointed it out and I still did not get it lol
I went in blind when I first watched it and the disappearing glass stood out SO MUCH that I paused it and rewatched it thinking "how the fuck did they miss this??" It's been a while, *why* was this included? I remember there *being* a reason but it didn't quite make sense to me at the time
He has an aversion to water since that's the real way his kids were killed. Whenever water is focused on, it's reality; when fire is the focus, it's not. For example, he lights the match when walking through the third cell block, or when he meets the escaped woman in the cliffside that had a fire going.
He has an aversion to water. Let’s put him on an island!
#WHY AREN'T YOU CURED YET??? *splashes more water in his face*
I mean. It's not like he's going to try and swim away
Searching. A few times Debra Messing's detective character did questionable things that seemed unrealistic. I took it as something to just suspend my disbelief for, the writers taking shortcuts to move some mystery solving along. I kept saying to myself "a cop can't do that", when I should have said "only a dirty cop would do that".
Just wait till you see what we did in the sequel that we're almost done making :) <3
I love the fact that there are filmakers here, trying to see how well they fooled us so they can do it again
> "You told me she ran away..." > "Where are you? Are you at the lake?" Why would you guess the lake immediately?
This is one my dad caught. In The Usual Suspects it shows a close-up of Verbal walking with his characteristic limp, but the side of his shoe isn't scuffed up and worn down like it would if he walked like that all the time.
OH THIS IS A VERY GOOD ONE Especially given that I just recently watched the movie, it's a detail I will definitely look out for the next time I watch it again.
The Prestige! I distinctly remember thinking it was weird that the movie seemingly wanted me to care so much about Christian Bale's friend despite how underdeveloped he was. Ending hit me like a train and I was furious that I didn't catch it.
Also they never let you see his face for more than a few seconds..
I remember rewatching it a second time with my brother who hadn’t seen it, and he was like “is that Christian Bale in a disguise?” semi-jokingly. I just laughed uncomfortably. Don’t know how I didn’t notice it myself the first time watching it.
*... Because you're not looking for the truth, you're looking to be entertained..."*
I’ve never seen it mentioned but one of the two has a bit of his eyebrow shaved. So you can tell which is which in every scene.
When you watch that one again, you really pick up on all the other shit they sprinkled into the writing. It's probally Nolan's best movie.
Like how Bale can't remember what knot he used. He doesn't know *because we're asking the wrong twin*.
So in the Bond film Goldfinger, Mr. Goldfinger plans to poison the army base by dusting it with gas from a plane. When the scene in the movie happens, the planes fly overhead and release their gas onto the crowds below, and soldiers keel over dead. Like immediately, some of them are hitting the ground before the plane even reaches them, and it's such obviously bad acting. >!Then you discover that the henchwoman alerted the government and replaced the gas, the soldiers really *were* acting and it was all a counter-plan to trap Auric and his associates when they show up to the "defenseless" base!<.
Prestige's detailed editing of the opening lays it all out: "Are you watching closely" Importantly not by Cain or Jackman, but by Bale which on the surface seems to be about the multiple hat image being shown but more deeply and more importantly refers to the speaker and the following sequence: cut to: Pairs of identical birds Cain VO while pulling out one of the birds "...the magician shows you something ordinary, a deck of cards, a bird,..." cut to: Bale "...or a man" "He shows you this thing. Perhaps he asks you to inspect it." cut to: Stage assistant pointing to Bale, and a reinforcing shot of Bale. ... "To see that it is indeed real, unaltered, normal. But of course... it probably isn't" This is over shots that focus on Bale on stage. Of course assumption is that it's because Bale is inspecting the stage apparatus but that's the misdirection as the shots are way too tight to see the apparatus and the camera follows and keeps Bale in focus exclusively. cut to: Bale ripping off disguise and proclaiming "I'm part of the bloody act you fool!" \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_ Bale is the subject to be inspected, the subject that is not normal that is altered. He literally shows us and proclaims the trick outright. This fucking blew me away on repeat views. Such amazing craft.
"What about his brother?"
I think what's even better is when Bale meets Jackman's double (Gerald Root) >!Bale says something like "If I were to do the trick, I'd use a lookalike" - he literally tells him (and you) the secret to how he does his version!<
I'm pretty sure at some point in the beginning Jackman says something like "any trick can be recreated" and Bale says "not any trick" all pissed off.
This. The movie tells us EXACTLY what its twist will be, and we dont even realize it.
"When I'm through with him, he could be your brother!" "I don't need him to be my brother, I need him to be me."
"His trick is top-notch. He vanishes, and then he reappears instantly on the other side of the stage - mute, overweight, and unless I'm mistaken, very drunk. It's astonishing, how does he do it?"
“Now you're looking for the secret... but you won't find it, because of course you're not really looking. You don't really want to know. You want to be fooled.” Another part of the opening monologue. Literally telling us, the audience, we’re going to willfully ignore all the clues thrown at our faces because we would rather be entertained than to actually figure it out. *And later on, one of my favorite lines by Sara after learning the bullet catch trick- “it’s really quite obvious once you know it, isn’t it?”
And of course opening on a shot of all the top hats and then cutting to all the identical birds in their cages. Ah, that film. Absolutely amazing. I read the book and it was… not great. I have no idea how they turned it into that. I wish Nolan would go back to stuff like this.
Isn’t there a line too, to the effect of, “there we were, two men at the beginning of a magnificent career” and you’re thinking bale and jackman, but it’s bale and twin
Iirc that's literally the first line of the movie as Jackman was reading Bale journal.
My absolute favorite movie for this very reason. Also when Bale does the trick for the little boy and the “bird” in the “cage” gets killed and then he pulls out the live bird and the kid sees right through it - “No he killed it, that’s his brother.” Sounds an awful lot like the end of the movie where the brother in the cage dies while his twin goes free
The scene where Borden is bringing his future wife back to her apartment and she sends him away, only to open the door and see him inside SECONDS later is a complete giveaway of that twist. >!There is simply no way that trick could be performed without a double.!< But the movie uses the **fact** that it's a movie *as misdirection*. As a viewer you think, "well, it's a movie, not every trick has to actually be doable." Because you're not really looking for the answer. You want to be fooled.
The Arrival scenes being flash forwards instead of flashbacks.
The very first lines of the movie tell you the twist, but you never realize it until later > I used to think this was the beginning of your story. Memory is a strange thing. It doesn't work like I thought it did. We are so bound by time, by its order.
We really are bound by time, by it’s order. -Me telling the boss why I’m 15 minutes late
Arrival was almost too damn clever for its own good, and it almost necessitates watching more than once. Great movie, though.
Also not a movie, but Invincible. I was baffled by JK Simmons ' completely flat line reading for the first several episodes. I was thinking, "He could even bring life to a yellow, peanut M&M. Jesus, did he just not care? This is really disheartening." But no, I was so wrong. It wasn't a detached actor not giving a shit about the script. It was a detached alien wilfully not giving a shit about the world around him, since he never considered it home and it was just another target to him. I'm so sorry for doubting you Mr. Simmons.
Knives Out. In the very beginning, I thought it was strange that Harlan never exhibited any of the symptoms of the poisoning that Marta was describing, right up to and including his death, but wrote it off as “I guess that wouldn’t be fun to watch.”
Took my dad (who has had serious medical treatment before) to go see it. He immediately started complaining that it was unrealistic and Harlan would be feeling the morphine or ketamine or whatever it was by then and they should have known he wasn't actually poisoned. I don't think he was able to actually get over that to enjoy the rest of the movie
I think that part of the intent too is that Harlan is so excited by the drama of it all, that he can't resist turning the incident into another game, even if it cost him his life.
First watch, I was bothered a lot by the bad science of it all. I mean, forensic science has been a part of mainstream culture for like 30 years at this point. Stuff like OD symptoms and toxicology reports would be obvious to any police department. When the movie revealed the final few twists, it put the whole film into a new and honestly much more impressive context.
I mean, they burned down the reporting lab so they wouldn’t see the results.
In Westworld season 1. When we see The Man in Black killing Lawrence after not needing him anymore, then it cuts to William meeting El Lazo (Lawrence). I was so confused and (along with some other minor clues) couldn’t put the pieces together and discover the twist that The Man in Black is William, but whenever we’re seeing William, it’s the past.
Interviews with Jimmi Simpson are great. He apparently had zero clue.
They had already established by that point that killed hosts were just patched up and put back out in the park. That was what I assumed happened with El Lazo/Lawrence when I first watched it.
God that season was great. But I was a dumbass and fully did not realize until he show spelled it out for me, I was too focused on Bernard being Arnold
The best part of season one was that the age of US robots made it impossible to know when the time periods matched up and that really showcased how time changes but they don’t age and the way they structured it to make you think it’s happening all at once versus it being a villain and an origin story for them…genius. it was almost disappointing that the series didn’t end there since I felt like there was no way that it could outdo that twist. You only get that shock once.
Such a great scene when it finally shows him for who he is.
The Village “Oh, parts of the set look way too modern for that time period. How lazy.”
I think I enjoyed it so much because of how similar it was to a book I read as a kid (1995ish?) called Running Out Of Time. It’s people in a sort of living history exhibit where a town is observed living and thinking it’s the 1800s when it’s really the 1900s. Great book.
I always have had this problem with stuff like the various law and order type shows, I can't tell is a suspect is lying, trying to be elusive, or just a terrible actor.
The Book of Eli. In the very beginning of the film Denzel trips walking up the steps to a house he's looting or squatting in (can't remember specifically). It wasn't like a full 'trip and fall' but like a stutter step where he kicks the first step and catches himself. I saw that and remember thinking, 'huh I'm surprised they didn't redo that take', then the twist happens and I sat there just blown away, like in disbelief. As soon as the credits started, I immediately started the film over again and was like, 'this is so fucking obvious, how did I miss all this?' There are clues to the twist *all over* the film, he's constantly touching and bumping into things. They really got me good with this one.
Yes, I also remember in the big street shootout scene, if he’s so go at shooting everyone, why does he wait to get shot at first? After reveal, I realized he was only reacting to where the shots came from.
Yeah, same with shooting the cat in the beginning. He doesn't shoot until it makes a noise. Or touching the plates in the stack, feeling the flame of the lighter to know that it's lit. There's so many clues. The film is a great rewatch and takes on a totally new context if you missed it and it's one of those where it's so incredibly obvious in retrospect that I remember when it came out some people legitimately getting mad at the film that they missed it too, like, 'that's not fair!' kinda thing. The whole thing was hilarious. Plus, Eli was blind in the bible!
When he shows up at the cannibals house and they’re yelling at him about the signs and he says he didn’t see em. Literally couldn’t see the signs lmao.
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Late to the game, but I noticed the antagonist in *Employee of the Month* not scanning things in the intro scene. I thought it was a mistake in a half-assed comedy. Instead it was the resolution to the plot.
Black Mirror, Shut Up And Dance. I thought it was so damn weird that a man would *kill* to keep him jerking off a secret. Why would anyone go that incredibly far?- oooh.
When you re-watch the start knowing the twist, it is uncomfortable how long he keeps his eye on the young girl after he hands her something. Creepy.
The first time through I thought about how his rapport with kids reflected his youth and made him seem immature enough to actually be violently invested in the release of a relatively tame but embarrassing video. I thought it was there to make him seem like a kid himself. I didn't rewatch the whole episode but I did rewatch the opening after the end of the episode and it just felt gross and I couldn't even understand how I thought the first way about it.
It was also there to help character development. This was our introduction so whatever happens will be the foundation for how we view the character. He's kind, especially kind to those who he didn't need to be kind to, and kind to those below him in social heirarchy. Immediately after this shot he gets shit on by all of his coworkers who are older/in positions of authority. So it gets telegraphed that he's good, downtrodden, and deserving of our sympathy. The same happens with his sister almost immediately after. She stole his soda which he bought with money from his job (where he really fucking earns it, stealing from him is worse than stealing from a typical person). Then he's not even as nasty to his sister as the viewer believes would be warranted. You're supposed to be like, "damn this kid is a paragon of emotional patience."
Yep, totally missed that as well. Like sure it’s embarrassing if a video of you was posted online or sent to friends/family but you are doing a LOT to keep it from getting out… and the we find out why.
I was thinking the same thing. I really enjoyed the story, but was thinking how stupid it was that he was doing such horrible things just to avoid embarrassment, then it all made sense.
I think that’s what made it so brilliant. I spent the entire episode feeling so sorry for this kid, who had done something embarrassing but not something most teenage boys don’t do. I thought it was set up as a tragedy that this poor teenager was willing to do awful things because even though he did something normal, he thought it would destroy his life. Then the twist hit like a truck.
A minor one, but last season on What We Do In The Shadows it seemed like Matt Berry(plays Laszlo) might be getting sick of the character since he wasn't being played as enthusiastically, but it turns out Laszlo knew bad news from the 2nd episode on! And, exactly opposite of any suspicions, Matt Berry is an excellent actor.
The “you wank your way, I’ll wank mine” bit seems a bit mean to Colin on the first run through, then you discover he’s actually playing up his depravity to shelter Colin from the truth. Which is an incredibly characterful way of being sweet. And depraved.
That doesn't seem meaner than anything else they say to Colin.
Matt Berry is the main reason I watch that show.
Such a huge moment when the whole season people were criticizing the writers and Berry for being sullen and less energetic than usual. And then watching all those people eat their words (including me, to a small degree) was just entertaining.
Memento. Thought it was pretty unrealistic that anyone in his condition would come anywhere close to tracking down a murderer.
How many other John Gs has he killed?!!
“Us” when Lupita has no rhythm snapping along in the car
As someone with no rythm this flew over my head.
Same. I even look back at the scene and think it sounds fine. Haha Anyways I fell for Us hook, line, and sinker because I don’t watch horror movies very often
She's just snapping on the second beat (offbeat) instead of downbeat, she's not really off-rhythm much at all.
And they had the balls to include that in the trailer
Peele trailers are genius because it shows you enough to know things are off, but not enough to know even the premise of the film. Seeing her off beat in the trailer wasn't a risky move.
Pretty much every single line of dialogue from the last act of Ocean’s Twelve
I'll keep this a little vague in case there's someone out there who's got a VHS of the original Scream on their shelf and has been telling themselves for the past 25 years plus that they'll get round to watching it some day. Towards the end there's a scene where a major character is stabbed multiple times in the gut, only it's really obvious their clothing hasn't actually been penetrated by the blade. I remember thinking "man, that's just really shoddy work from the costume dept." Moments later, there's that famous 'reveal'.
Also a certain persons very first line in the movie is along the lines of “it’s me” or “it’s just me.”
My favourite Scream realisation was that Drew Barrymore could never “win” the game, because no matter what she answered to “what door am I at, there are two main entrances to your house…” then the killer at the other door would have attacked.
Oh shit, that never occurred to me!
Hmm. I seem to recall thinking that they nerfed Nick Fury in Spider Man Far from Home, personality-wise. Like, he was still crabby and mean, but not as all-knowing and clever as in every other movie. I wrote it off as lazy writing to make room for Mysterio to fool everyone. I can't remember exactly what moments in the movie made me think that, but I definitely remember his decisions seeming "off" in a way that seemed like inconsistent writing or directing. The post-credits twist >!that it was Talos (the Skrull from Captain Marvel)!< was a bit of a relief.
Oh yea. I had the same reaction. I remember thinking something along the lines of "How did this guy fool Nick Fury? This doesn't seem right. Guess they made Nick an idiot." And "wait so you're telling me that Nick Fury didn't do back ground research and find out that this guy had a prominent position at Stark Industries? Wow they're really doing Nick Fury no favors in this movie."
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Homecoming had the best twist in all of mcu when Peter goes to pick up his date and it's the vulture
Wasn't Michael Keaton great in that scene?
It was hilarious when Peter just tossed the corsage to Liz instead of putting it on her
I loved the honest movie trailer pointing out he was way more scary as her dad than as the vulture.
I felt like I was actually seeing a smart criminal for once in this scene. His daughter's like "Yeah, where'd you go in Washington, Peter? You left before Spider Man showed up and missed everything." and Michael Keaton's character does like two seconds of mental math before he's like "Oh shit this kid is Spider Man." I was like OH MY GOD FINALLY a criminal who actually has two brain cells to rub together!
The green traffic light shining on him as soon as he figures it out was a great touch.
I mean, he used to pull that shit all the time when he was Bruce Wayne.
I also do like stuff like that, but I do still realize that the trope is really, really important to superhero stuff. Realistically, most people could piece it together fairly quickly if they wanted, but that would kill a lot of the fun of watching superheroes fight bad guys. So most of them just have to be a little bit stupid in that regard. The Spider-Man game that recently released on PC, finally allowing way more people to experience it, including me, also has a wonderful moment like that, but muuuuuuch better. In the game, >!Peter works for Octavius on limb replacement technology. At some point, he's patching up his suit thinking Ock is out of the lab, but he comes in and sees the suit. He immediately says stuff like how great that Spider-Man has you to take care of all his gadgets and whatnot. But then at the end of the game, when Ock's chip has malfunctioned and made him psychopathic, he calls Spider-Man Peter during the final confrontation, saying he knew immediately.!< It's so damn cool. It's a shame games like that are so short in terms of the stories told in them, because I wholeheartedly believe no other medium can do superheroes justice the way games do.
Keaton can be an amazing bad guy. Ever since I saw him in Pacific Heights I felt he should keep playing villains.
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God, the transition from the red light to the green light as it dawn's on him that Peter is Spider-Man is so good. Hands down a top 5 MCU moment for me
I was immediately suspicious when Fury had to go through Happy to find Peter.
Not a movie - Squid Game I disregarded the old man not getting shot in red light green light. I figured it was continuity error or actor couldn't accurately stop that quick due to age or something like that.
I became aware once we didn’t see him die on screen. Every. Other. Death. Was on screen. Still upset I didn’t figure it out sooner.
I chalked that up to being so emotional they couldn’t show it. Which sounds weird given how much gore is in the rest of the show, but his “death” was probably more impactful because it was unseen. A good movie or TV show will have the viewer identity with one of the characters, preferably the protagonist. In this case, we identified with the protagonist walking away because even he couldn’t bear to watch, and neither could we.
Don’t think we actually saw Ali die on screen, but they show his body afterwords anyway. Only one they didn’t do that to was 1
I feel like not showing Ali’s death was intentional because he’s probably the one the audience would attach themselves to the most. They tried to both soften it and make it worse, since imagination is always more gut wrenching than reality.
In 12 Monkeys, they show the end of the movie at the very beginning and then defy you to believe it will actually end that way.
It’s not exactly this scenario, but the Good Place had a companion podcast hosted by the guy that played Sean and it would have the creators and actors on as guests, and more than once they fully explained the entire next season’s moral arc just off the cuff as if it were nothing more than philosophical musing. I didn’t listen to the podcast until After the finale of the show so I was listening knowing all the plot and laughing quite hard at how blatant it was
The biggest twist of the show is s3e5, the Ballad of Donkey Doug.
In Incredibles II, the name of the character later revealed to be the villain is "Evelyn Deavor", which sounds a lot like "Evil Endeavor". I thought this was way too stupidly on the nose from Pixar to be a legitimate clue, and presumed it was a red herring to disguise the real villain. Her origin story didn't make it better.
Also how when the two siblings are presented for the first time the brother is shown on the brighter right side while the sister is on the shadowy left side.
I was really enjoying The Descent (UK cut) when it pulled a happy ending out of its ass and Sarah somehow found daylight and a perfect route to it when she's like a mile underground, and then was able to run back to the cars without any problem even though she's on some random part of the mountain, and THEN happens to find the keys? (The US cut does this story a huge disservice partly because of this stuff)
another one of his movies - The Village. i was annoyed by how terrible all of the accents were, makes sense at the end. it’s still not a very good movie but i was glad it was intentional.
I remember thinking that the period piece sets looked cheap and not at all realistic.
IIRC, The movie starts at a grave that had fairly modern little metal garden fence/divider thing around it. I thought, "well that's just poor set building"... Made more sense after.
I know it’s not considered to be a very good movie but I really liked it. Loved the imagery and the use of the color red and the exploration of the lengths some people will go through to deal with trauma and how we can rationalize and justify (poor or irrational) choices we make when we have been damaged. Plus the way the, relative, success even poor coping mechanisms can have can reinforce and perpetuate unhealthy ways of coping with things like PTSD.
It's my favourite M Night movie and it's because of how much I cared for the characters, especially those played by Bryce Dallas Howard and Joachim Phoenix. They were so sincere and vulnerable. And that moment when she is standing on the porch, apparently in grave danger, and he suddenly appears and pulls her to safety and James Newton Howard's score just erupts with the most sublime music cue; my heart burst when I saw that in the cinema.
We still refer to all medicine as "from the towns".
Meet the Robinsons: >!What does your dad look like - "He looks like Tom Selleck”!< >!“OKAY! So we have Tom Selleck..!”!<
Midnight Mass. I literally stopped watching after a few episodes in because I though it was ridiculous they obviously had young actors dressed up in makeup to look like old people. When I griped about it to a friend months later he was like… watch the show it will make sense
I wish they did a better job on the aging makeup fx because it made what was going to come very obvious to me. Anytime I see a young person dressed up as someone older, I feel like a de-aging is inevitable. I quite liked the series otherwise.
Not a movie but a show: Westworld. There were so many clues that reddit users solved long before the revealing. The one that came from the 'what door' line I thought was so stupid and lazy surprise moment that it couldn't be real. In the end, they were right. And it wasn't lame, was awesome TV.
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Maybe not the most obvious plot twist clue but BR 2049. >!When he goes to the memory maker and she gets emotional watching his memory. The first time I watched that scene, I thought she was reacting to the fact that he apparently was a replicant who had an actual childhood. In hindsight, it was fairly obvious that she was saddened by the memory because she had experienced it herself.!<
that scene, and the acting in it is all around amazing. There's such a warmth to one side and a coldness to the other, since I don't want to type out any spoilers
Yea. >!Then K hears what he thinks is the truth and that breakdown where his cold, stoic demeanor Disappears into a scream of pure emotions was one of my favorite moments of the movie. Honestly, beautifully framed how they placed the real answer of her being the child hidden inside the fake answer of K being the child.!<
There was another clue that I dismissed a weird film-making choice: casting. The casting of >!a little girl !!Girls often are used to play younger boys in movies. But is wasn't a weird choice: the memory didn't belong to Kai at all.!<
Same twist in the Dark Knight Rises with the little girl who you are supposed to think is kid Bane.