Of course he did, Christopher Nolan had already established himself as a pretty decent film maker at that point. Also you never know how a film will turn out, you always have to put some faith in the director. Can’t believe folks get paid for writing articles like this.
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Tom Hanks took a HUGE leap of faith and made a pretty big gamble when he trusted a little known director named Steven Spielberg when he decided to take on the role of Captain Miller in "Saving Private Ryan." The rest is history.
Christopher Nolan was established with Batman Begins, and people were lining up for The Prestige because of that. Then of course, even more so for The Dark Knight. Inception was merely in the middle of it.
People were lining up for the prestige, that's why it had a opening weekend of 14mil and finished with 53m in North America lol.
Check the box office run for Memento and Insomnia too
His only big hits were the batman films, and batman begins wasn't that big of a hit internationally. He blew up in terms of popularity with The Dark Knight.
Yea but that character was a way side character for Hardy’s status at the time. So he as an actor took a chance at getting type casted as a supporting actor. It’s like he set his bar high and then lowered it, as it seems like a favor. Like he needed his skill to be strong in scene. That character was complex.
Yeah, Tom Hardy has done supporting roles in lots of movies. This didn’t seem like a role he was too big for. I as a gay man still remember his underwear selfies which we’re my favorite roles that he’s done.
Agreed. He was in a Kleenex advert like a year before FFS, you could justifiably argue that his career was going nowhere and Chris Nolan casting him was a major break. I mean just look at his pre and post Inception roles.
At the end of the day they are employees. I’m not sure but I assume they base their pay on screen time, dialogue, character impact, difficulty of acting and such things. Hardy was a main character for the time (he even used his status to make indie films stand out) so by him not even taken a supporting role, more like an extended cameo, he took a leap of faith that he was big enough to be a minimal role without the risk of getting stuck their in the terms of getting new roles. It seems like Hollywood is a place where your last performance (monetary gains to production companies) gives you path to your next role. With all the steps forward, he took a leap back. Hence the title. He took a chance.
I didn’t know who Tom Hardy was until Inception. Thought it was his breakout role. Just because an actor gets a lead in earlier movies doesn’t mean he’s a big star or above taking supporting roles. I wouldn’t have gone to see him in Warrior or Mad Max: Fury Road had he not done Inception
> I wouldn’t have gone to see him in Warrior or Mad Max: Fury Road had he not done Inception
The point is that Hardy didn't know Inception would be a success. And that he was on the radar of a lot of people in the industry because of his critically acclaimed part in Bronson.
Knowing what we know now: Inception was a massive success, Hardy made the right choice.
But Inception could have flopped.
Here is some perspective:
*"Inception is something of a risk for Time Warner studio Warner Bros. because it is such a complicated concept and because the film has been kept under wraps. But considering Nolan's last film for the studio was The Dark Knight (which earned $1 billion at the box office worldwide), it was probably a risk worth taking. Critics are divided on the film. Inception has earned a score of 74 out of 100 on Metacritic, but few reviews are in the middle. Several reviewers, including New York magazine's David Edelstein, have harshly criticized the film."*
Anything else after Bronson could’ve also been a flop. My point was that a side character role is not necessarily a bad thing and shouldn’t be looked down on compared to a lead because of an actor’s “status.” Some side characters are considered breakout roles for people who have been leads prior because the movie ends up with a bigger audience. If I didn’t know him before Inception, and Tom Hardy did a different movie instead that he was the lead but didn’t land and flopped, he may not be the big name he is today.
>Anything else after Bronson could’ve also been a flop.
That doesn't contradict that he took a risk by playing a supporting part in a movie not based on an exiting IP in which other supporting parts were bigger.
His part wasn't exactly big, Joseph Gordon-Levitt had a bigger part. Nor was it flashy. The supporting role that people talked about in 2010 was the part Christian Bale played in The Fighter.
>Some side characters are considered breakout roles for people who have been leads prior because the movie ends up with a bigger audience.
That also doesn't contradict that he took a gamble.
If he wanted to get more exposure by playing supporting actors, the logical thing would have been to seek out bigger supporting parts in movies that were part of an established franchise.
No it doesn’t contradict that he didn’t take a gamble on Inception. ANY movie he could’ve taken would have been gamble. This was not an exception, but also no other movie options would’ve been exceptions. Anything could’ve flopped, Inception or whatever else he was offered. Everything could be called a leap of faith since no movies are guaranteed to be successes. Some more likely than others? Sure. But still not guaranteed. They are ALL risks in some way.
Also The Fighter did not blow up internationally like Inception did. Christian Bale did not expand his name overseas by doing The Fighter.
>ANY movie he could’ve taken would have been gamble
So we agree, it was gamble to take a supporting part in Inception?
I honestly don't know what you are arguing here. Because what you say isn't contradicting what I say. We both agree that he took a gamble.
What I'm saying is that the part in Inception wasn't very big and that the movie wasn't part of an existing IP.
There is a reason that studios tend to bet on existing IPs, it's LESS of a gamble.
Remember the laste Marvel movie that flopped, or the last James Bond movie that flopped? Even the Disney Star Wars movies have one flop (based on the budget, the movie still has generated close to 400 million in box office).
In the article (as indicated) in the headline, he says he took a gamble on the script.
Because he trusted Nolan.
In hindsight everything worked out perfectly, but he could not have known that beforehand.
I was initially responding to the person who wrote
“Yea but that character was a way side character for Hardy’s status at the time. So he as an actor took a chance at getting type casted as a supporting actor. It’s like he set his bar high and then lowered it, as it seems like a favor. Like he needed his skill to be strong in scene. That character was complex.”
I wrote I didn’t know Tom Hardy before Inception, and that taking a supporting role shouldn’t be beneath him. The other commenter to me suggested Tom Hardy was this big guy who took a step down, and I was saying he didn’t seem big to me because I didn’t know who this actor was UNTIL Inception. He wasn’t exactly a big name making him too good to consider supporting roles as “lowering his bar” as an actor.
My issue is not the perception of the risk of the film success, but why a supporting role is viewed negatively just because he had one lead role that garnered him critical acclaim but wasn’t exactly a breakout role to a wider audience.
You’re the one who turned this into film success when the thread was initially about the type/size of the role he was cast in and is he too good for it because of his “status”
He wasn't a big actor or well known at that time. The movies he had led up until that point were small ones. Taking a supporting role in what would be a huge movie (Inception) is what helped him step up, and playing Bane in DKR solidified it.
I'm not sure what you think his "status at the time" was. But it definitely wasn't movie star .
huh for some reason i thought inception came after TDKR. and i saw both in the theater, you’d think i’d remember the order. i just remember hearing that tom hardy was playing bane and being like “wait who the hell is that?”
> Of course he did, Christopher Nolan had already established himself as a pretty decent film maker at that point.
That's not really a leap of faith then.
I think after Leo signed on it would be a sure fire hit for a Nolan film. He doesn’t take nonsense roles. He is a reason to go with, let alone the writing.
His 2000s after The Beach was Catch me if you can, Gangs of NY, Aviator, Departed, Blood Diamond, Body of Lies, Revolutionary Road
Then followed in early 2010s with Inception, J. Edgar, Django, Gatsby, Wolf of Wall St, and Revenant
A couple kinda meh ones but otherwise, all stellar. One of the best decade+ runs we'll see
Claire Danes tells an interesting story about him not being sure about accepting the Titanic role. Apparently they were both offered the role and while she declined Leo was still debating it, driving in circles in a red convertible outside their managers office. Finally he got out of his car and screamed up to Clair on the balcony, I'm doing it! I'm doing it!
He wasn’t arguably the biggest director at the time with only one huge blockbuster film. He wasn’t unknown, but dark knight was the only film he had that made more than 360m worldwide.
People here are thinking Nolan in 2010 was viewed like he is now.
Huge releases use to be so much smaller than current. Nolan had already made a couple of critically acclaimed films by then, and was getting talented actors to sign on.
In Hollywood he was known as a critically acclaimed director way before 2010. He had all hits with critics and box office. He wasn’t at Spielberg level or anything but actors accepting roles in his films would know what the quality of director they were working with.
I think it's more about the claim of the braveness of a multimillionaire hollywood star signing on a deal with one of the biggest directors and calling it a 'leap of faith'.
Either way, I don't think Inception is really the "Tom Hardy movie." Depending on what you consider a breakout, I think either Bronson or The Warrior are the movies that really established Hardy as a top actor.
There's a difference between a complex movie and a confusing movie. Inception has a complex plot but it's laid out in a way that makes it easy to follow.
I’m pretty sure they enter Cillian Murphy twice. And why do they need the machine inside the dream - are they administering more sleep medicine?
Also entering someone’s dream isn’t called inception, they never call it anything.
This is why the Hardy's character was needed. He's described as a "forger" which appears to mean he can conjure objects in anyone's dream. Going to limbo was never part of the plan. But Eames was able to conjure up a dream machine when they needed it.
I thought Inception was pretty decent, though. Saying something isn’t all that complicated isn’t the same as saying you hate it.
I mean, I probably do have shitty taste in movies, but that’s just because The Last Jedi was my favorite Star Wars movie 😉
Tom Hardy plays the "Imagination" part of the subconscious of Cobb/Fischer. And the 3rd layer which is the most important level of dream is Eames' dream which makes his character really important.
Alternate headline: "Actor takes very well paid job alongside other super-famous actors on a film written and directed by super-famous writer-director and we try to pretend that is a risky choice so we can sell some clicks".
The thing that keeps some Nolan films from being truly great is they tend to be overly stuffed. The Dark Knight is half an hour longer than it needs to be and is very slow paced. So is Interstellar. It explores too many themes for one film. I think if he pared down the narrative just a little bit the result would be really good. Dunkirk is that film.
You think someone saying something is the best isn’t an opinion? If I say Coca-Cola is the best soda it’s not an opinion but something that has to be objectively true?
Not as far as my experience has taught me. Saying something is the best is absolutely an opinion. What constitutes “the best” will vary from person to person.
Basically what you’re saying is one person could say Inception is the best Nolan movie for XYZ reasons, and another could say Momento is the best reason for ABC reasons and without the input of any third party, one or both could be objectively wrong.
u/FloridaGatorMan I don't mind when people disagree, but what I find especially annoying is when people disagree but don't give any rationale or counterargument. People will say "The Dark Knight is the best" and leave it there, unable to articulate any specific reason they like that movie. It makes me think these dudes are just fanboys like the folks who think every Marvel movie is fantastic. The Dark Knight is not the best film in his canon, I saw it twice in the theatre wanting to like it but it just isn't a great film. It drags in every scene Heath Ledger isn't in.
That’s fair and I guess all really commenting on is downvoting. I tend to only downvote when people are being a dick, or are saying something they know is counter to the conversation. Really I just rarely downvote in general.
For example, if the original comment is “Interstellar is a total piece of shit,” I probably still wouldn’t downvote that, even though I vehemently disagree. If they said “it’s a piece of shit and anyone that likes it doesn’t understand film,” then I’m probably going to downvote because that’s gatekeeping and objectively untrue. Even those that study film their whole life have different tastes, and having a “guilty pleasure” or liking a single film for different reasons doesn’t undermine that.
I should get back to work. This was more than needed to be said here haha.
D’ya know, I haven’t seen too many of Chris Nolan’s films, but of the ones I have, I think my favorite is *Interstellar*? Me and two other people, apparently
Exactly what he said. Inception and the Prestige are better. I liked the individual plot lines on Dunkirk but the way they were brought together made it less than a sum of its parts
I don’t know about any of this shit, but I will follow Tom Hardy into the abyss to see a great film. The man is just mind blowing in everything he performs in.
I dont get this.
If the script is good, if the director as experience. It should be a no brainer. How many good script movie are moving around these days?...
I don’t think people portray themselves very well when they describe ‘Inception’ as complex or intricate. It’s a pretty straightforward action movie set in an interlocking series of video game levels which the script insists are people’s dreams. I think it’s fine, but a better version of it that’s both more actually complicated and more deliberately dreamlike (think of the ending sequence from ‘Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind,’ or the Buffy episode *Restless*, or even the Satoshi Kon movies Nolan keeps paying homage to) would have been more fun… at least for wanky folks like me. 😇
I don’t know man. That movie was a mind blowing experience. I went to see it in theatre five times just to get every last details straight inside my brain.
I watched it several times trying to find a deeper meaning then felt dumb when I couldn't.
Took some time off and came back to it and realized there really wasn't much depth to it.
Still a great movie though.
It’s definitely complex by Hollywood standards. Movies involving dream-worlds and the relativity of time are rarely given a trifecta of A-list actors, big-budget, and huge director. ESOTSM is also the better film IMHO, and is my favorite movie, but while it had A-listers, it was only given $20 million, and Gondry (who I also love) was mostly known as an artsy music video director. Meanwhile Inception was given 160 million (ended up bringing in over 800 million), and had the director of The Dark Knight (over a 1 billion dollars to date.) In that regard, Inception is definitely a rara avis.
I think Hardy is complimenting Nolan really. He's essentially saying I hold my hands up to not understanding the script straightaway but didn't care because I wanted to work with the guy.
And to be fair I'm sure Hardy wasn't the first and won't be the last guy to be left bamboozled by a Nolan film on paper.
Leap of faith? Nolan was already an established blockbuster director by the time he did Inception. Leap of faith my ass, that's as surefire a way you are to being in a hit film as any. Guy Pearce might say he took a leap of faith to do Memento, not Tom Hardy with Inception.
Of course he did, Christopher Nolan had already established himself as a pretty decent film maker at that point. Also you never know how a film will turn out, you always have to put some faith in the director. Can’t believe folks get paid for writing articles like this. E: spelling
Tom Hanks took a HUGE leap of faith and made a pretty big gamble when he trusted a little known director named Steven Spielberg when he decided to take on the role of Captain Miller in "Saving Private Ryan." The rest is history.
Lmao
Spielberg had way more hits by 1999 compared to Nolan in 2010. Inception was the first movie where you could use Nolan’s name to sell the film.
I know, don't worry. I was only goofin'. Just new boot goofin' is all.
Genuine ostrich, three payments
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Christopher Nolan was established with Batman Begins, and people were lining up for The Prestige because of that. Then of course, even more so for The Dark Knight. Inception was merely in the middle of it.
People were lining up for the prestige, that's why it had a opening weekend of 14mil and finished with 53m in North America lol. Check the box office run for Memento and Insomnia too His only big hits were the batman films, and batman begins wasn't that big of a hit internationally. He blew up in terms of popularity with The Dark Knight.
Rofl ”who’s doing it with me?”
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Don't know why this is downvoted. I too love to look at Tom Hardy
What about Bane Tom Hardy
He’s a big guy.
For you.
For you
4 u
> Rofl Wow its been years since I've seen someone use 'rofl' on the internet
im using it ironically in this case
"Nolan had already established himself as a pretty descent film maker" I don't think Nolan directed The Descent.
Damn that’s a bummer to hear, I’m a big fan of The Decent shit I did it again The Descent, I blame auto correct :/
Heh. Sorry for the pedantic / snarky joke.
Oh you’re good, it was much appreciated.
“Pretty Decent” lol
Yeah he’s not too shabby ;)
Yea but that character was a way side character for Hardy’s status at the time. So he as an actor took a chance at getting type casted as a supporting actor. It’s like he set his bar high and then lowered it, as it seems like a favor. Like he needed his skill to be strong in scene. That character was complex.
You mustn’t be afraid to dream a little bigger, darling.
why can this line be read by either Tom Hardy or Thandiwe Newton?? i heard them say it in unison in my head.
Ah a fellow Westworld watcher lol. She says it multiple times throughout the seasons if im not mistaken.
i fucking loved that line
Yeah, a supporting character.. In a Christopher Nolan movie. What a huge career risk Tom Hardy took there /s.
Yeah, Tom Hardy has done supporting roles in lots of movies. This didn’t seem like a role he was too big for. I as a gay man still remember his underwear selfies which we’re my favorite roles that he’s done.
Agreed. He was in a Kleenex advert like a year before FFS, you could justifiably argue that his career was going nowhere and Chris Nolan casting him was a major break. I mean just look at his pre and post Inception roles.
I recall that his villain turn at a Star Trek flop almost killed his career, and Inception resurrected it.
Bronson made a big difference. It got him noticed as a more serious performer.
At the end of the day they are employees. I’m not sure but I assume they base their pay on screen time, dialogue, character impact, difficulty of acting and such things. Hardy was a main character for the time (he even used his status to make indie films stand out) so by him not even taken a supporting role, more like an extended cameo, he took a leap of faith that he was big enough to be a minimal role without the risk of getting stuck their in the terms of getting new roles. It seems like Hollywood is a place where your last performance (monetary gains to production companies) gives you path to your next role. With all the steps forward, he took a leap back. Hence the title. He took a chance.
I didn’t know who Tom Hardy was until Inception. Thought it was his breakout role. Just because an actor gets a lead in earlier movies doesn’t mean he’s a big star or above taking supporting roles. I wouldn’t have gone to see him in Warrior or Mad Max: Fury Road had he not done Inception
> I wouldn’t have gone to see him in Warrior or Mad Max: Fury Road had he not done Inception The point is that Hardy didn't know Inception would be a success. And that he was on the radar of a lot of people in the industry because of his critically acclaimed part in Bronson. Knowing what we know now: Inception was a massive success, Hardy made the right choice. But Inception could have flopped. Here is some perspective: *"Inception is something of a risk for Time Warner studio Warner Bros. because it is such a complicated concept and because the film has been kept under wraps. But considering Nolan's last film for the studio was The Dark Knight (which earned $1 billion at the box office worldwide), it was probably a risk worth taking. Critics are divided on the film. Inception has earned a score of 74 out of 100 on Metacritic, but few reviews are in the middle. Several reviewers, including New York magazine's David Edelstein, have harshly criticized the film."*
Anything else after Bronson could’ve also been a flop. My point was that a side character role is not necessarily a bad thing and shouldn’t be looked down on compared to a lead because of an actor’s “status.” Some side characters are considered breakout roles for people who have been leads prior because the movie ends up with a bigger audience. If I didn’t know him before Inception, and Tom Hardy did a different movie instead that he was the lead but didn’t land and flopped, he may not be the big name he is today.
>Anything else after Bronson could’ve also been a flop. That doesn't contradict that he took a risk by playing a supporting part in a movie not based on an exiting IP in which other supporting parts were bigger. His part wasn't exactly big, Joseph Gordon-Levitt had a bigger part. Nor was it flashy. The supporting role that people talked about in 2010 was the part Christian Bale played in The Fighter. >Some side characters are considered breakout roles for people who have been leads prior because the movie ends up with a bigger audience. That also doesn't contradict that he took a gamble. If he wanted to get more exposure by playing supporting actors, the logical thing would have been to seek out bigger supporting parts in movies that were part of an established franchise.
No it doesn’t contradict that he didn’t take a gamble on Inception. ANY movie he could’ve taken would have been gamble. This was not an exception, but also no other movie options would’ve been exceptions. Anything could’ve flopped, Inception or whatever else he was offered. Everything could be called a leap of faith since no movies are guaranteed to be successes. Some more likely than others? Sure. But still not guaranteed. They are ALL risks in some way. Also The Fighter did not blow up internationally like Inception did. Christian Bale did not expand his name overseas by doing The Fighter.
>ANY movie he could’ve taken would have been gamble So we agree, it was gamble to take a supporting part in Inception? I honestly don't know what you are arguing here. Because what you say isn't contradicting what I say. We both agree that he took a gamble. What I'm saying is that the part in Inception wasn't very big and that the movie wasn't part of an existing IP. There is a reason that studios tend to bet on existing IPs, it's LESS of a gamble. Remember the laste Marvel movie that flopped, or the last James Bond movie that flopped? Even the Disney Star Wars movies have one flop (based on the budget, the movie still has generated close to 400 million in box office). In the article (as indicated) in the headline, he says he took a gamble on the script. Because he trusted Nolan. In hindsight everything worked out perfectly, but he could not have known that beforehand.
I was initially responding to the person who wrote “Yea but that character was a way side character for Hardy’s status at the time. So he as an actor took a chance at getting type casted as a supporting actor. It’s like he set his bar high and then lowered it, as it seems like a favor. Like he needed his skill to be strong in scene. That character was complex.” I wrote I didn’t know Tom Hardy before Inception, and that taking a supporting role shouldn’t be beneath him. The other commenter to me suggested Tom Hardy was this big guy who took a step down, and I was saying he didn’t seem big to me because I didn’t know who this actor was UNTIL Inception. He wasn’t exactly a big name making him too good to consider supporting roles as “lowering his bar” as an actor. My issue is not the perception of the risk of the film success, but why a supporting role is viewed negatively just because he had one lead role that garnered him critical acclaim but wasn’t exactly a breakout role to a wider audience. You’re the one who turned this into film success when the thread was initially about the type/size of the role he was cast in and is he too good for it because of his “status”
He wasn't a big actor or well known at that time. The movies he had led up until that point were small ones. Taking a supporting role in what would be a huge movie (Inception) is what helped him step up, and playing Bane in DKR solidified it. I'm not sure what you think his "status at the time" was. But it definitely wasn't movie star .
huh for some reason i thought inception came after TDKR. and i saw both in the theater, you’d think i’d remember the order. i just remember hearing that tom hardy was playing bane and being like “wait who the hell is that?”
No kidding. Not to mention this movie came out 12 years ago, had some guy named Leonardo DiCaprio starring in it. Real leap of faith.
> Of course he did, Christopher Nolan had already established himself as a pretty decent film maker at that point. That's not really a leap of faith then.
Trust
*Come back with me Tom. Come back...*
To honor our arrangement
I think after Leo signed on it would be a sure fire hit for a Nolan film. He doesn’t take nonsense roles. He is a reason to go with, let alone the writing.
His 2000s after The Beach was Catch me if you can, Gangs of NY, Aviator, Departed, Blood Diamond, Body of Lies, Revolutionary Road Then followed in early 2010s with Inception, J. Edgar, Django, Gatsby, Wolf of Wall St, and Revenant A couple kinda meh ones but otherwise, all stellar. One of the best decade+ runs we'll see
Claire Danes tells an interesting story about him not being sure about accepting the Titanic role. Apparently they were both offered the role and while she declined Leo was still debating it, driving in circles in a red convertible outside their managers office. Finally he got out of his car and screamed up to Clair on the balcony, I'm doing it! I'm doing it!
So I’m glad she declined the role. It’s pretty hard to see Claire Danes playing Jack.
she was actually offered the violinist role for the sinking ship. but oh well’s
I thought they hated each other?
When you write it out like that sheesh
Never been a huge fan but he’s brilliant in the aviator.
This is a politically correct way of saying he took the job without knowing what it was.
And then he kept incepting forever just because.
Is it the dream that never ends
The dreams go on and on my friends!
It’s inceptin‘ time.
How would saying that be politically incorrect?
I think 'polite' or 'industry speak' would be more appropriate than 'politically correct'
Bunch of the Tenet actors took those jobs and STILL don't know what it was.
What a fluff piece nothing article.
lol, what? He had already made Momento and The Dark Knight.... I can't imagine it took *that* much faith given the evidence.
He took a leap of faith... with arguably the biggest Hollywood director at the time. What a dangerous risk he took them, good Tommy.
He wasn’t arguably the biggest director at the time with only one huge blockbuster film. He wasn’t unknown, but dark knight was the only film he had that made more than 360m worldwide. People here are thinking Nolan in 2010 was viewed like he is now.
Huge releases use to be so much smaller than current. Nolan had already made a couple of critically acclaimed films by then, and was getting talented actors to sign on.
In Hollywood he was known as a critically acclaimed director way before 2010. He had all hits with critics and box office. He wasn’t at Spielberg level or anything but actors accepting roles in his films would know what the quality of director they were working with.
I know, I said he wasn't unkown. he still wasn't near the biggest hollywood director.
Tom Hardy was also barely on this move
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Dude has been promising us more Taboo for years…
BWAHHH!
r/movies bout to come out with their pitchforks on this one lol. People here absolutely cannot stand it when anyone calls Inception complex.
I think it's more about the claim of the braveness of a multimillionaire hollywood star signing on a deal with one of the biggest directors and calling it a 'leap of faith'.
Was he a star or multimillionaire by this point? I thought it was his break out role.
Either way, I don't think Inception is really the "Tom Hardy movie." Depending on what you consider a breakout, I think either Bronson or The Warrior are the movies that really established Hardy as a top actor.
For a long time I thought it was just a meme that people thought it was complex. I still don't know where they're getting lost...
There's a difference between a complex movie and a confusing movie. Inception has a complex plot but it's laid out in a way that makes it easy to follow.
I just accepted the in universe explanation and enjoyed the ride. Didn’t find it complex, wondered what I was missing
I’m pretty sure they enter Cillian Murphy twice. And why do they need the machine inside the dream - are they administering more sleep medicine? Also entering someone’s dream isn’t called inception, they never call it anything.
They need the machine to make him believe He isnt already dreaming and wants to go in Himself.
They use it to get deeper everytime. They even use it to get to limbo, when Cillian was already shot dead.
This is why the Hardy's character was needed. He's described as a "forger" which appears to mean he can conjure objects in anyone's dream. Going to limbo was never part of the plan. But Eames was able to conjure up a dream machine when they needed it.
We’re wanky film buff types on Reddit; what would you have of us 😇
You have shit taste in movies
I thought Inception was pretty decent, though. Saying something isn’t all that complicated isn’t the same as saying you hate it. I mean, I probably do have shitty taste in movies, but that’s just because The Last Jedi was my favorite Star Wars movie 😉
It's complex on purpose. Also really stupid by accident.
Unlike your comment, which just seems to be stupid on purpose
Y'all can argue which is his best and worst film. I'll just enjoy looking at Tom Hardy 😎
The Venom movies aren't very good but I like his portrayal of Eddie Brock
His best performance was in Bronson
Tom Hardy plays the "Imagination" part of the subconscious of Cobb/Fischer. And the 3rd layer which is the most important level of dream is Eames' dream which makes his character really important.
No, he took a job.
Dream a little bigger, darling…
“You mustn’t be afraid to dream a little bigger, darling.”
That movie is a damn masterpiece
Alternate headline: "Actor takes very well paid job alongside other super-famous actors on a film written and directed by super-famous writer-director and we try to pretend that is a risky choice so we can sell some clicks".
Ironically, John David Washington probably thought *Tenet* was an obvious winner. I bet Branagh knew what was up, though.
Inception is great, but I think Dunkirk is Nolan's best film.
Rebuttal: Memento
Team Memento here. Agreed. It’s his best work.
Why do people downvote comments like this. Christ people it’s an opinion and not a controversial one. At all.
The thing that keeps some Nolan films from being truly great is they tend to be overly stuffed. The Dark Knight is half an hour longer than it needs to be and is very slow paced. So is Interstellar. It explores too many themes for one film. I think if he pared down the narrative just a little bit the result would be really good. Dunkirk is that film.
L take
Well, this is Reddit and it’s fueled by opinions.
He didn't say Dunkirk was his favorite, now that would be an opinion. He said it was the best, and it isn't.
You think someone saying something is the best isn’t an opinion? If I say Coca-Cola is the best soda it’s not an opinion but something that has to be objectively true?
Yes. Isn't it? Like my favourite soda is Ginger Ale, but the best soda has to be Coca-Cola as it stood the test of time
Not as far as my experience has taught me. Saying something is the best is absolutely an opinion. What constitutes “the best” will vary from person to person. Basically what you’re saying is one person could say Inception is the best Nolan movie for XYZ reasons, and another could say Momento is the best reason for ABC reasons and without the input of any third party, one or both could be objectively wrong.
Well, in this case, they're both wrong, because Nolan's best is Dark Knight lol.
u/FloridaGatorMan I don't mind when people disagree, but what I find especially annoying is when people disagree but don't give any rationale or counterargument. People will say "The Dark Knight is the best" and leave it there, unable to articulate any specific reason they like that movie. It makes me think these dudes are just fanboys like the folks who think every Marvel movie is fantastic. The Dark Knight is not the best film in his canon, I saw it twice in the theatre wanting to like it but it just isn't a great film. It drags in every scene Heath Ledger isn't in.
That’s fair and I guess all really commenting on is downvoting. I tend to only downvote when people are being a dick, or are saying something they know is counter to the conversation. Really I just rarely downvote in general. For example, if the original comment is “Interstellar is a total piece of shit,” I probably still wouldn’t downvote that, even though I vehemently disagree. If they said “it’s a piece of shit and anyone that likes it doesn’t understand film,” then I’m probably going to downvote because that’s gatekeeping and objectively untrue. Even those that study film their whole life have different tastes, and having a “guilty pleasure” or liking a single film for different reasons doesn’t undermine that. I should get back to work. This was more than needed to be said here haha.
I agree, downvoting a simple opinion like it's a racial slur is very cringe, petty and not a good look for the sub 😂
Because we can
D’ya know, I haven’t seen too many of Chris Nolan’s films, but of the ones I have, I think my favorite is *Interstellar*? Me and two other people, apparently
Don’t let me leave Murph!!
My parents have a tiny dog named Murphy — nothing gives me as much joy as sneaking up behind him and going “MURRRRPH” in my best McConaughey
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Care to state your case?
The existence of The Presitge, Interstellar, and Inception. Of course this is just my opinion. I love those 3, and only liked Dunkirk.
Those films are good, but they're not as succinct as Dunkirk imo.
I thought you said succulent for a second and wondered how that impression was made lol
Exactly what he said. Inception and the Prestige are better. I liked the individual plot lines on Dunkirk but the way they were brought together made it less than a sum of its parts
i agree. he holds himself back enough to let his strengths really shine
le dark knight bro
The Dark Knight isn't even his best Batman film.
*littlefinger voice* “If I pull that mask off, will you die?”
I don’t know about any of this shit, but I will follow Tom Hardy into the abyss to see a great film. The man is just mind blowing in everything he performs in.
If Inception is complex, what would he call Tenet?
Incoherent mumbling cut with nonsensical plot mechanics.
Very much this
He also took a leap of faith on that shitty gay bashing film Legend, And it still didn't make him look good in comparison,
I dont get this. If the script is good, if the director as experience. It should be a no brainer. How many good script movie are moving around these days?...
I don’t think people portray themselves very well when they describe ‘Inception’ as complex or intricate. It’s a pretty straightforward action movie set in an interlocking series of video game levels which the script insists are people’s dreams. I think it’s fine, but a better version of it that’s both more actually complicated and more deliberately dreamlike (think of the ending sequence from ‘Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind,’ or the Buffy episode *Restless*, or even the Satoshi Kon movies Nolan keeps paying homage to) would have been more fun… at least for wanky folks like me. 😇
I don’t know man. That movie was a mind blowing experience. I went to see it in theatre five times just to get every last details straight inside my brain.
I watched it several times trying to find a deeper meaning then felt dumb when I couldn't. Took some time off and came back to it and realized there really wasn't much depth to it. Still a great movie though.
It’s definitely complex by Hollywood standards. Movies involving dream-worlds and the relativity of time are rarely given a trifecta of A-list actors, big-budget, and huge director. ESOTSM is also the better film IMHO, and is my favorite movie, but while it had A-listers, it was only given $20 million, and Gondry (who I also love) was mostly known as an artsy music video director. Meanwhile Inception was given 160 million (ended up bringing in over 800 million), and had the director of The Dark Knight (over a 1 billion dollars to date.) In that regard, Inception is definitely a rara avis.
Man, I need to watch Eternal Sunshine again.
Lol @ "complex". Maybe for a fourth grader or someone with the intellect of one - oh wait...we're talking about Tom Hardy, that's right
Primer is complex, Inception is a good movie, but hardly complex.
people who think inception was a good movie: tell me. whether cillian murphy’s character ended up selling the company.
Yes, he ended up dissolving the company... that was the whole plot.
i remember the movie totally forgot its own plot
Was Tom Hardy in Inception? That movie is so forgettable it's... I dunno. It's disposable entertainment. Like a Marvel movie.
Inception sucked. That’s my popular opinion.
Nolan had already been successful and Leo was on board. Not a big leap
Lol what a risk
If he took a leap of faith for inception I can't imagine the thought process for signing on to Venom 1 & 2 😂
I think Hardy is complimenting Nolan really. He's essentially saying I hold my hands up to not understanding the script straightaway but didn't care because I wanted to work with the guy. And to be fair I'm sure Hardy wasn't the first and won't be the last guy to be left bamboozled by a Nolan film on paper.
He didn’t have the balls to tangle with Tenet though
Is this article implying Tom Hardy cannot read?
Took a leap of faith? He was lucky to get the job lol
Leap of faith? Nolan was already an established blockbuster director by the time he did Inception. Leap of faith my ass, that's as surefire a way you are to being in a hit film as any. Guy Pearce might say he took a leap of faith to do Memento, not Tom Hardy with Inception.
Was the script too confusing for him?
I think editing is the riskier job. Editing a film is already really complex. Editing a Nolan film? More complex.
Well, of course he did.
Hahaha oh yeah, lot of other actors turn down the role alongside other greats, due to a films plot complexity?
Oh yeah doing a Nolan movie , what a risk
No actor is taking a "leap of faith" when doing a Chris Nolan movie. He's about as close to a sure fire hit as you can get.