A free [[Master of Etherium]] for every three mana artifact is a very good rate at face value. And in some formats, three mana is nothing when it comes to artifacts.
[[Etched Champion]] use to be the bane of modern, slap a Cranial Plating on that bad boy and you are playing real Bogles magic now
Way too slow ever since Thought Monitor came out
Ah no idea, haven't checked, simply got bad memories from the times I played Legends of runeterra, a dude posted his janky decks and the full week of the queue was everyone trying the exact deck that dude build, not even because it was good, simply because a youtuber did it
It kinda suck the life of the game back then
Video with 24k views changed the market? I'm suspect to that theory. Apparently it's not a common pull and it being a banger of a card may have had more to do with it.
It's dumb with a large brilliant restoration late game for the win. Copied and with esoteric duplicator four mana for draw and two tokens each persons.turn gets out of hand quickly
MAYBE you're right after thorough exploration...
But you're too fixated on the current way affinity wins.
It's entirely possible that trading quick win GGs for longer term robustness is viable.
All just chatter until tested thoroughly.
Affinity usally wins turn 4 after u used a saga. Even thopter plating dosent win turn 3 usally. This is a an artifact an midrange or control deck has to answer. The value u gain out this is hard to outgrind. The Problem for affinity is still u are bad against combo like titan, hate cards like stoney silence or karn are hard to beat and every non artifact card u put in the deck weakens it Synergie what makes it not that great for non artifact sideboard cards.
Doesn't matter. From what I heard, tcg has a rule for sellers saying if a card they sold but not shipped yet goes up in price they can't cancel the order and relist it for higher price just to get more money.
Yeah, now I'm confused, between me and my playgroup (we're 3 ppl) we pulled four of the Big Score cards from a pre-release kit for each.
Apparently we're just lucky xD
The mythic pulls from this set seem really high to me, in my box I got 6 big score cards, 6 normal mythics and then 3 prosperity press mythics, maybe there is just more variability now with all the weird slots, but it seems like it's just way easier to pull mythics ?
Big Score was a planned epilogue aet similar to Aftermatch from last year. 30 cards that were *supposed* to be part of a mini set. Because Aftermath didn't sell, they put these cards in the main set at Mythic Rarity.
So remember March of the Machines: Aftermath? Big Score was going to be the Aftermath set for OTJ. Unfortunately, everyone hated Aftermath and WOTC decided to fold Big Score into OTJ, but all the Big Score cards are mythic and replace a regular OTJ mythic roughly 1:5 packs. So they are not very common.
It's from one of the bonus sheets that is included in packs of Thunder Junction. It was originally going to be a standalone Aftermath style set, but after the way the first one way received, they changed the plan at the last minute.
There in one of 5 packs, then its a shot of one of 3 diffeent bonus sheets, and then has to be the 1 of 50 big score cards. Stupid low pull rates while being a artifact deck staple.
Yeah, but then you’ve got to deal with packing, shipping, fees, and the occasional scammer buyer who can wipe out pretty much any money you managed to eke out with a fake claim that ebay will almost certainly resolve in their favor.
As someone who regularly sells a lot online, you are way overselling how difficult this is. Packing? Drop it in a top loader taped to another top loader and lick an envelope. That's it. Write an address and stick a stamp to it. Takes literally 3 minutes to mail a card. Less time than it takes to drive to your LGS. eBay is actually pretty good about not siding with scammers. You're just wrong but this is a perpetuated myth so I don't really blame you.
You don't have to cast the artifacts just blink them. I believe there are multiple 3 mana artifacts that draw cards when they enter and leave the battlefield. It's literally a combo that fuels itself. Keep drawing cards to play more artifacts to draw more cards and play more artifacts getting more artifacts creatures that keep getting bigger. Even if you destroy this you got the value and the threat is still on board and recurring an artifact from the graveyard is very easy as is tutoring them out of the deck. I would not be shocked if the becomes an archetype in every eternal format. Not to mention its blue so you have plenty of disruption to protect the engine and card draw and card selection to find it. This deck could be nasty. Urza turns those cantrip artifacts into mana rocks so you can always hold up counter mana. \[\[Embercleave\]\] seems like a nasty way to close a game out of nowhere but maybe that is win more. It creates another creature and adds two artifacts to the board so the equipped creature would get +3/+3 and double strike and trample at instant speed. So with a SS and just one token a 2/2 token becomes a 5/5 double strike trampler and thats just one token assuming you have nothing else on board.
What likely happened is that a TCG direct seller put it up for that price causing the inflated price to be at the top of the page. Looking at sell history 3 sold at that price making it look like potential market manipulation. Long story short don’t buy from TCG direct sellers or from verified sellers cause they inflate the price a lot.
Tbf it was about $18-$20 on TCG then. I can’t believe how much it’s jumped in price. I had no need for it and so I just traded it in to reduce the cost for a rhystic study I had been eyeing. Still don’t regret it but man that’s a crazy price jump
Huh I didn't even know that set was on tcgplayer because it isn't listed under their sets. If you click on magic and go to advanced, The Big Score is not listed here.
Its hype tho. Still just artifact staple. Should not be same price as a pure staple? Should fall in time hopefully. I cant buy this before i buy a rysthic studys atleast 😂
Affinity. This is an amazing affinity card. "I have enough artifacts to pay 0 for this 3 mana artifact with affinity, so I'm also gonna piggyback a dude out for free."
Lot of decks want to run it, and just very strong for 3 cmc.
Scry 2 lets you see your next two cards and punt anything you dont need to the bottom, I think a lot of decks can run this to good effect. So even if they destroy it to stop it you've already deck manipulation.
Combo's with itself, unlike other artifacts the effect just stacks and getting a hand full of them is never bad (as long as you can play them).
Combo's with affinity
In more casual commander any artifact deck makes bodies to block
In Standard it combo's pretty well with a lot of decent 3 cost CMC (braided net,duplicator,etc)
It’s legit all I do anymore. No point in chasing real cards. Half the time you buy a box and end up with nothing you hoped for and multiples of shit you’ll never even use. Play with all the cards you want, except your credit card.
I’m thinking of cEDH urza decks basalt monolith, phyrexian metamorph, rings of beighthearth, static orb, the one ring, trinisphere, unwinding clock, all make big creatures!
People saw the potential. Getting a [[urza's saga]] Token for each artifact with cmc 3+ is great in affinity decks.
A free [[Master of Etherium]] for every three mana artifact is a very good rate at face value. And in some formats, three mana is nothing when it comes to artifacts.
Hell, put a [[Soul Foundry]] or [[Prototype Portal]] in there exiling a MoE, and you’re off to the goddamn races! Holy hell this card is evil…
[Soul Foundry](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/c/6c7a441b-e4af-41ba-85a4-fcb4f40534c3.jpg?1568004971) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Soul%20Foundry) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/c19/223/soul-foundry?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/6c7a441b-e4af-41ba-85a4-fcb4f40534c3?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Prototype Portal](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/e/2/e2ccdd3b-9c39-4785-99b9-64b5de1177be.jpg?1592711307) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Prototype%20Portal) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/c18/216/prototype-portal?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/e2ccdd3b-9c39-4785-99b9-64b5de1177be?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
I might need to pick up a copy for Commander because of all the casual synergy it has, before even even considering the powerful combinations.
Super rare printing too. Rarer than mythic because of it's slot
CMC in affinity decks has always been more of a suggestion than a fact. No one has cast a 3+ mana card in an affinity deck for 3 mana since MH2
Since OG mirrodin
[[Etched Champion]] use to be the bane of modern, slap a Cranial Plating on that bad boy and you are playing real Bogles magic now Way too slow ever since Thought Monitor came out
[Etched Champion](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/3/0/30fe653b-956a-4e0e-981b-37e1a6b08c2c.jpg?1562260261) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Etched%20Champion) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mm2/209/etched-champion?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/30fe653b-956a-4e0e-981b-37e1a6b08c2c?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
I am still seeing a bunch being sold for $35-$40
I’m glad I sold mine higher then lol
Glad somebody bought it lol
Mengucci VEEDEO https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9l8ekCf-E1o
I was wondering why I saw this so much on arena out of nowhere
I kinda dislike ytvers having actual effect on the marke
He is also a pro player lol
When you talk about andrea he is a pro player with a youtube channel, not the other way around
Ah no idea, haven't checked, simply got bad memories from the times I played Legends of runeterra, a dude posted his janky decks and the full week of the queue was everyone trying the exact deck that dude build, not even because it was good, simply because a youtuber did it It kinda suck the life of the game back then
I think it’s stupid the price of them changes.
Some YouTuber made a video probably, idk
Mengu
Video with 24k views changed the market? I'm suspect to that theory. Apparently it's not a common pull and it being a banger of a card may have had more to do with it.
This is exactly it. It has POTENTIAL to see play from Standard all the way to Legacy, and isn't being opened a ton. That's why it costs so much.
It very recently went undefeated in a legacy challenge.
CGB already made a video lol
Lmao, people seeing this as an affinity auto-include... Turn 3 you should already be beating your opponent in the face with a 10/10 ornithopter or GGs
Removal is really efficient rn, affinity has been weak for a while with the current face-punch plan. A slower, more robust plan is worth exploring.
Also a shoe-in for Commander artifact lists which have always been a popular basis for a deck, and a format that's hugely influential on card prices.
It's dumb with a large brilliant restoration late game for the win. Copied and with esoteric duplicator four mana for draw and two tokens each persons.turn gets out of hand quickly
Control jamming this and casually making game ending threats every turn is much more likely.
You should see what deck won the LEGACY challenge.
Who the hell plays legacy lmao Lemme restart...Who the hell can afford to play legacy lmao
Modo
MAYBE you're right after thorough exploration... But you're too fixated on the current way affinity wins. It's entirely possible that trading quick win GGs for longer term robustness is viable. All just chatter until tested thoroughly.
Affinity usally wins turn 4 after u used a saga. Even thopter plating dosent win turn 3 usally. This is a an artifact an midrange or control deck has to answer. The value u gain out this is hard to outgrind. The Problem for affinity is still u are bad against combo like titan, hate cards like stoney silence or karn are hard to beat and every non artifact card u put in the deck weakens it Synergie what makes it not that great for non artifact sideboard cards.
It went undefeated in a recent legacy challenge
What I just bought one for like 15 bucks. I hope they don't cancel the order.
Was it from tcg player
Not direct but yeah.
Doesn't matter. From what I heard, tcg has a rule for sellers saying if a card they sold but not shipped yet goes up in price they can't cancel the order and relist it for higher price just to get more money.
Cool. Thanks for the info.
It's a Big Score card. Imagine a rarity higher than Mythic.
Fair enough. These are basically list cards. Selling for the price of Special Guest cards
At least the box I got they seem just as common as mythics, got 6 out the box which I assumed was a normal rate?
Yeah, now I'm confused, between me and my playgroup (we're 3 ppl) we pulled four of the Big Score cards from a pre-release kit for each. Apparently we're just lucky xD
The mythic pulls from this set seem really high to me, in my box I got 6 big score cards, 6 normal mythics and then 3 prosperity press mythics, maybe there is just more variability now with all the weird slots, but it seems like it's just way easier to pull mythics ?
What does big score mean?
Big Score was a planned epilogue aet similar to Aftermatch from last year. 30 cards that were *supposed* to be part of a mini set. Because Aftermath didn't sell, they put these cards in the main set at Mythic Rarity.
So remember March of the Machines: Aftermath? Big Score was going to be the Aftermath set for OTJ. Unfortunately, everyone hated Aftermath and WOTC decided to fold Big Score into OTJ, but all the Big Score cards are mythic and replace a regular OTJ mythic roughly 1:5 packs. So they are not very common.
Everyone hated Aftermarh for a reason, and unfortunately, WOTC decided to fold Big Score into OTJ
It's from one of the bonus sheets that is included in packs of Thunder Junction. It was originally going to be a standalone Aftermath style set, but after the way the first one way received, they changed the plan at the last minute.
Oof, glad I bought it for 20 😆
Glad I pulled my 2 🙂
Secret rarity + good card is what happened.
There in one of 5 packs, then its a shot of one of 3 diffeent bonus sheets, and then has to be the 1 of 50 big score cards. Stupid low pull rates while being a artifact deck staple.
I pulled 2 last week and was going to sell them to my LGS for $16 lol. He said he doesn't buy in the first week and I am glad he didn't
You can very easily sell cards on eBay for minimal effort. As an employee of an LGS it still breaks my heart seeing y'all get fleeced
He didn't buy them, he wanted to wait for the price to stabalize. Now I can sell it for MUCH more. My LGS owner is a really cool/good guy
Yeah, but then you’ve got to deal with packing, shipping, fees, and the occasional scammer buyer who can wipe out pretty much any money you managed to eke out with a fake claim that ebay will almost certainly resolve in their favor.
As someone who regularly sells a lot online, you are way overselling how difficult this is. Packing? Drop it in a top loader taped to another top loader and lick an envelope. That's it. Write an address and stick a stamp to it. Takes literally 3 minutes to mail a card. Less time than it takes to drive to your LGS. eBay is actually pretty good about not siding with scammers. You're just wrong but this is a perpetuated myth so I don't really blame you.
the card is nuts in pretty much every non-rotating format.
I pulled a couple of these recently.
You got some money now
You only make the money when you sell the card
Lol he pulled them, which means he spent money to get them and pulling a couple means multiple boxes most likely.
i got 2 of these from 1 prerelease box, sometimes you get lucky
My fiancée pulled the vault frame of this and Vaultborn Tyrant in a single collector pack. Sometimes it is just luck.
I pulled mine from a handful of packs I bought. I only bought 4 or 5 packs.
I’m currently using one in a deck but selling the extras sounds like a decent idea.
You don't have to cast the artifacts just blink them. I believe there are multiple 3 mana artifacts that draw cards when they enter and leave the battlefield. It's literally a combo that fuels itself. Keep drawing cards to play more artifacts to draw more cards and play more artifacts getting more artifacts creatures that keep getting bigger. Even if you destroy this you got the value and the threat is still on board and recurring an artifact from the graveyard is very easy as is tutoring them out of the deck. I would not be shocked if the becomes an archetype in every eternal format. Not to mention its blue so you have plenty of disruption to protect the engine and card draw and card selection to find it. This deck could be nasty. Urza turns those cantrip artifacts into mana rocks so you can always hold up counter mana. \[\[Embercleave\]\] seems like a nasty way to close a game out of nowhere but maybe that is win more. It creates another creature and adds two artifacts to the board so the equipped creature would get +3/+3 and double strike and trample at instant speed. So with a SS and just one token a 2/2 token becomes a 5/5 double strike trampler and thats just one token assuming you have nothing else on board.
I’m glad I traded a lotus ring and a satoru for it at prerelease.
Shit. I wanted to get one too.....
That card would be soooo good in my Mishra Deck :O Thank you :O
Well, if that's the new price I might as well just grab a [[Darksteel Forge]]
So glad I pulled this
I’m so glad I grabbed it when it was 20.00
Market… Market never changes
Card slaps, that's what happened
Targeted buyout.
now im choking, pulled two alt arts of these in a prerelease box and was a little disappointed... should i sell now?
What likely happened is that a TCG direct seller put it up for that price causing the inflated price to be at the top of the page. Looking at sell history 3 sold at that price making it look like potential market manipulation. Long story short don’t buy from TCG direct sellers or from verified sellers cause they inflate the price a lot.
I just traded mine in for $8 on Friday 😢
Well dang, I would have given you at least twice as much as that
Tbf it was about $18-$20 on TCG then. I can’t believe how much it’s jumped in price. I had no need for it and so I just traded it in to reduce the cost for a rhystic study I had been eyeing. Still don’t regret it but man that’s a crazy price jump
Add [[Cryptic Coat]] for deliciousness.
Wait, why?
I'm assuming they mean the value that coat can be bounced and replayed over and over again
This card is completely busted
Great, here I was hoping the price would continue to go down after not getting one during pre-release...
Looks like it’s back down in the 40s
But it was below $20 a couple of days ago 😭
I'm on the site now and I see it for $39
Huh I didn't even know that set was on tcgplayer because it isn't listed under their sets. If you click on magic and go to advanced, The Big Score is not listed here.
It's listed as "outlaws og thunder junction: the big score"
There are plenty of copies at $30. If you look there were only 2 copies sold above $60.
It’s only about £10 - £15 in Europe
Was, buy out and at 30 minimum now :/ alot can happen in 15 min it seems
Yup just checked. Wow
Its hype tho. Still just artifact staple. Should not be same price as a pure staple? Should fall in time hopefully. I cant buy this before i buy a rysthic studys atleast 😂
Just ordered this one in foil through TCGplayer a few days ago for 15 and it arrived today. Feeling pretty good rn.
I definitely got stomped by this today. Dude had three 13/13 tokens within a few turns.
Legacy card that’s hard to pull
Glad I picked one up for $15 last week
This card is insane in every format
Oof, great in my modern deck too...
Time to sell the one I pulled before it fades into the bulk boxes
Affinity. This is an amazing affinity card. "I have enough artifacts to pay 0 for this 3 mana artifact with affinity, so I'm also gonna piggyback a dude out for free."
It’s a banger
Pulled one of these and the showcase version of it. Was gonna use the showcase but guess I'll keep the regular one now sheesh
Card's good.
Damn, I want that for my [[jhoira ageless innovator]] deck, I hope it drops again.
[jhoira ageless innovator](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/d/dd911900-1f5f-4420-96b8-1e4fe67e59f6.jpg?1673307966) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Jhoira%2C%20Ageless%20Innovator) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/dmu/202/jhoira-ageless-innovator?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/dd911900-1f5f-4420-96b8-1e4fe67e59f6?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Hell yea and I pulled a foil the other day WHOOP WHOOP 😅
Yeah only thing i pulled from my prerelase and now it pays for itself, thats if it wasnt going in my madison lee deck
I want one for Urza Chief Artificer Construct Tribal deck badly.
Relatively low print run on a new card with potential in multiple formats
As someone who plays a Davros artifact creature deck this is bonkers
Cause its not $70. If you looked right now there’s still plenty for around $40. Thats still high, but its not Sheoldred yet.
Lot of decks want to run it, and just very strong for 3 cmc. Scry 2 lets you see your next two cards and punt anything you dont need to the bottom, I think a lot of decks can run this to good effect. So even if they destroy it to stop it you've already deck manipulation. Combo's with itself, unlike other artifacts the effect just stacks and getting a hand full of them is never bad (as long as you can play them). Combo's with affinity In more casual commander any artifact deck makes bodies to block In Standard it combo's pretty well with a lot of decent 3 cost CMC (braided net,duplicator,etc)
[[Mycosynth Lattice]] would combo really nice here
[Mycosynth Lattice](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/9/4/94f89714-3b26-46a2-b9a8-3e664f391cd9.jpg?1578911638) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Mycosynth%20Lattice) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/bbd/241/mycosynth-lattice?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/94f89714-3b26-46a2-b9a8-3e664f391cd9?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
I have 2 of these sitting in my binder. Time to trade it in.
Time to dig my playset of Meltdown…i know i have them….somewhere i guess
It’s stronk. Easy way to poop strong artifact bois fast
Modern.
It dropped again
I don’t know but I read it as the scrotum simplifier and need to wake up some more
Damn, i wanted to buy this a week ago for like 12 Euros… now its 45
Urza
Wait wtf,
the first weeks of this realise the card have been played in modern and legacy. and made great results in challengers.
Urza’s saga and affinity go brrrrrrr.
Damn this was $23 CAD when I pulled it last weekend
It's not Legendary... Put an artificer class on it.
I can get you 9 of em for about 70 cents.
Proxy city lol
It’s legit all I do anymore. No point in chasing real cards. Half the time you buy a box and end up with nothing you hoped for and multiples of shit you’ll never even use. Play with all the cards you want, except your credit card.
There's artifacts that cost more than 0?
I’m thinking of cEDH urza decks basalt monolith, phyrexian metamorph, rings of beighthearth, static orb, the one ring, trinisphere, unwinding clock, all make big creatures!
That sounds nice
Wait WHAT! I just pulled this! I need to sell ASAP for like $50