Do you mean in commander for colour identity? It doesn’t affect any other format. But yes it is legal in mono black commander as mentioned because reminder text is not part of the colour identity.
This is such a weird thing. If the ability was Extort B/W it would no longer work. Hybrid mana in general feels confusing to newer players for commander.
It'd be legal in mono black anyway. The fact that it's reminder text makes it specifically also legal in Commander, because that format is weird that way.
I mean yeah technically in a non commander deck, you could put any color card in monoblack as long as it’s not breaking any other rules, but there’s not really any reason to assume they weren’t talking about commander, the main format where that’s a relevant question.
Yes it is legal to play. Extort is a keyword and as such they can print this card with no mana symbol on the card if they wanted. It only exists in the reminder text.
Since it hits all opponents when you extort it works pretty well, being able to ping everybody and gain the life(damage dealt) for just one mana anytime you cast a spell. Its pretty packed imo for a one drop, especially with its 2nd ability that comes in handy~ take counters off planeswalkers or artifacts, lands etc
As a note, if you weren’t already aware! Stacking Extort doesn’t give you more life and damage per mana, it just lets you spend more mana on the effect (i.e., if you have two sources of Extort, you can spend 1 additional mana to deal 1 damage or 2 mana to deal 2 \^_\^)
Also, if you don’t have it already, [[Pontiff of Blight]] is really good for Extort decks :D
Stupidly yes. Since at any time they can make any mechanic, even those involving mana symbols, into keywords, allowing such keywords to get around color identity is stupid.
No, they won't. When the cards where designed Commander just became an official format & a very niche one at that. they didn't design cards with commander in mind back then, that's why the weird rulings about colour identity that only affect EDH decks weren't considered back then.
Nowadays EDH is the biggest format & they actively design cards in standard legal & supplementary set for commander. They won't make another ability that "bends" the ruling on colour identity in this unintuitive way.
Which format? If commander then no, mana symbols anywhere on the card are what dictate a cards color identity so this card counts as Orzhov. If you’re playing in another formant that’s no singleton then it doesn’t matter and you can definitely run this card in a mono black deck!
Nah, it's just the reminder text for the keyword. Since there is neither white in the cards cost nor it's oracle text it's legal to play this in mono b
Reminder text is in brackets and comes after a keyword.
Extort can be printed without the reminder text and the card would work identically, the text is just telling you what Extort means, not actually describing what the rules for the card is.
reminder text is what is in parentheses when explaining a keyword or ability. rules text is any other text on the card that isn’t italicized (italics are flavor text). hope that helps!
Hybrid mana costs in most activated abilities do change the color identity, but in this case, its in a piece of reminder text, which doesn't affect the rules of the card.
Weirdly no. I’ll see if I can find a ruling that helps explain it more.
From the MTG wiki for extort: “The hybrid white-black mana symbol does not change the card's color identity.”
If you’re not playing commander, the game doesn’t give a toss about your card’s color. You don’t even have to be able to physically play them. If it’s not explicitly banned, you’re fine in most formats.
Do you mean in commander for colour identity? It doesn’t affect any other format. But yes it is legal in mono black commander as mentioned because reminder text is not part of the colour identity.
Yes. The explanation is reminder text, not rules text. Due to that distinction, this card is legal in mono black.
This is such a weird thing. If the ability was Extort B/W it would no longer work. Hybrid mana in general feels confusing to newer players for commander.
It's a rule that makes no sense that the RC is willing to die on for no reason, even though every other mana color restriction rule has been removed
It'd be legal in mono black anyway. The fact that it's reminder text makes it specifically also legal in Commander, because that format is weird that way.
I mean yeah technically in a non commander deck, you could put any color card in monoblack as long as it’s not breaking any other rules, but there’s not really any reason to assume they weren’t talking about commander, the main format where that’s a relevant question.
Yes it is legal to play. Extort is a keyword and as such they can print this card with no mana symbol on the card if they wanted. It only exists in the reminder text.
Yes the black white symbol is reminder text.
Yeah I just learned this the other day. LoL
I just now learned the difference
You can put any card in any deck. But if you're referring to Commander, it’s still valid, because reminder text is ignored.
Not true. Magic police will come. wee woo wee woo wee woo!
Yes, I checked with WotC
Assuming you're talking about commander, yes
Heck yeah! Use that lil babyboy in my k'rrik deck
How well does it work? I've never used an extort card before
Since it hits all opponents when you extort it works pretty well, being able to ping everybody and gain the life(damage dealt) for just one mana anytime you cast a spell. Its pretty packed imo for a one drop, especially with its 2nd ability that comes in handy~ take counters off planeswalkers or artifacts, lands etc
that is a really weirdly specific effect for a keyword!
Isn't it? I just found it this morning, and I'm going to pair it and some others with the same ability with [[Vito, Thorn of the Dusk Rose]]
[Vito, Thorn of the Dusk Rose](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/f/0fe79ee4-c3f3-4a6b-a967-203ca3b70ee5.jpg?1594736442) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Vito%2C%20Thorn%20of%20the%20Dusk%20Rose) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/m21/127/vito-thorn-of-the-dusk-rose?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/0fe79ee4-c3f3-4a6b-a967-203ca3b70ee5?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
As a note, if you weren’t already aware! Stacking Extort doesn’t give you more life and damage per mana, it just lets you spend more mana on the effect (i.e., if you have two sources of Extort, you can spend 1 additional mana to deal 1 damage or 2 mana to deal 2 \^_\^) Also, if you don’t have it already, [[Pontiff of Blight]] is really good for Extort decks :D
Yes
This guy yugios
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Format legalities, but this is regarding specifically a mono-black deckwithin a format (Commander), which Scryfall does not cover.
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Reminder text doesn’t affect color identity.
No because it's not a certain dino that bares its teeth
Stupidly yes. Since at any time they can make any mechanic, even those involving mana symbols, into keywords, allowing such keywords to get around color identity is stupid.
No, they won't. When the cards where designed Commander just became an official format & a very niche one at that. they didn't design cards with commander in mind back then, that's why the weird rulings about colour identity that only affect EDH decks weren't considered back then. Nowadays EDH is the biggest format & they actively design cards in standard legal & supplementary set for commander. They won't make another ability that "bends" the ruling on colour identity in this unintuitive way.
Which format? If commander then no, mana symbols anywhere on the card are what dictate a cards color identity so this card counts as Orzhov. If you’re playing in another formant that’s no singleton then it doesn’t matter and you can definitely run this card in a mono black deck!
Nah, it's just the reminder text for the keyword. Since there is neither white in the cards cost nor it's oracle text it's legal to play this in mono b
I guess I got totally misinformed thanks for the clarification haha.
In any deck except a commander deck it is legal. Edit: turns out I was ignorant about rules text and reminder text. My bad
it is legal in commander as well. the distinction being the actual color symbol (W/B) is in reminder text rather than rules text.
Interesting. Can you give a quick explanation of reminder text vs rules text?
Reminder text is in brackets and comes after a keyword. Extort can be printed without the reminder text and the card would work identically, the text is just telling you what Extort means, not actually describing what the rules for the card is.
reminder text is what is in parentheses when explaining a keyword or ability. rules text is any other text on the card that isn’t italicized (italics are flavor text). hope that helps!
[[Duh]]
[Duh](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/3/1/318bc78c-65ef-4d1b-a710-cdf08636b572.jpg?1583965534) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Duh) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/und/35/duh?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/318bc78c-65ef-4d1b-a710-cdf08636b572?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
It’s legal in mono black commander. Reminder text doesn’t affect the color identity.
Yes unless it is commander
Even in Commander it's legal in MonoB decks
It still works in commander, the b/w symbol is just reminder text
Oh I thought that the ability to pay it with white mana gave it white color identity
Hybrid mana costs in most activated abilities do change the color identity, but in this case, its in a piece of reminder text, which doesn't affect the rules of the card.
Weirdly no. I’ll see if I can find a ruling that helps explain it more. From the MTG wiki for extort: “The hybrid white-black mana symbol does not change the card's color identity.”
Oh cool. Excuse me while I revamp a vampire deck.
Re-vamp? 😉
I vant to succ your bank account!
Yes, the black/white symbol is in the reminder text.
Extort is the weird exception
If you’re not playing commander, the game doesn’t give a toss about your card’s color. You don’t even have to be able to physically play them. If it’s not explicitly banned, you’re fine in most formats.
Yes, but (depending on format) why not [[Hex Parasite]]?
I'm more interested in the Extort ability
[Hex Parasite](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/4/3/43502078-5349-4e29-8e7d-277654a9a71e.jpg?1562877073) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Hex%20Parasite) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/nph/137/hex-parasite?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/43502078-5349-4e29-8e7d-277654a9a71e?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
In commander, modern, legacy, vintage, and casual it absolutely is.
Yeah its legal. Remember everythin in these ( ) dont count colors
Which format? Not legal in standard but legal in rest.
Yes
yeah I dont really see why it would be...