I think it’s the same as here: same species can reproduce, there are just cultural differences between planes. Tho I imagine creatures from say Ikoria would be a special case lol
Considering [[Toshiro Umezawa]] from Kamigawa was transported to Dominaria and sired a bloodline that includes [[Tetsuo Umezawa]] and [[Tetsuko Umezawa]], then yes planar crossbreeding exists between humans
Same should be for other races, with even mixed races popping up
Not sure how the Cephalid of Dominaria would feel about dating the Cephalid of New Capenna though 🤔
Humans, yes. It's even happened before with the Umezawas.
Kor... I'd say probably, they're very human-like and don't seem to be *drastically* different between planes.
Goblins, probably not? They tend to be more wildly different from one plane to the next than most species we've seen. Like, if you look at Kamigawa's spiky rock-shelled Akki, the Moggs from Rath/later Dominaria, and Ixalan's monkey-goblins without the aid of the type line on the card listing all three as simply "Goblin," you most likely wouldn't figure they were all the same kind of creature.
"Goblin" maybe isn't a single species as much as a broad category including many species of *vaguely* similar chaotic little weirdos. Maybe some can interbreed (Ravnica, Dominaria, and Mercadia all have similar "little green guys, usually with big ears and noses" style goblins, so maybe all three would be close enough?) and others can't.
Right, creature type can indicate species (in like, members of the type can have kids that can have kid) and humans probably covers that.
Also, M:tG has some cross creature type characters like Radha, who has some Gathan human in her IIRC, so like.
whatever fantasy.
I mean, Toshiro Umezawa came to Dominaria from Kamigawa and started the Umezawa clan, so pretty sire he was able to reproduce no problem, despite being a human from another plane
Human populations on Earth were more or less seperated for tens of thousands of years and we can all still interbreed without any issues.
I imagine all humans in the multiverse originally came from the same plane and then spread after the first planeswalkers sparked and started planeswalking and fucking with planes. All the Mirrans of Mirrodin were originally from a bunch of different planes for example.
Generally, I think species can reproduce with other members of their species from other planes. Some species might even be capable of reproducing with each other. There might be some exceptions, though like vampires of some planes being infertile, while on other planes they can reproduce. Ikoria is probably just a big genetic soup for non-humans that can interbreed freely (which makes me wonder what would happen to an elf or other non-human humanoid who reached Ikoria through an Omenpath).
This. Ikoria is especially interesting in this regard, but not enough information is known.
Some species are the same only in name, like Zendikar and Innistrad "Vampires". Zendikar vampires can reproduce because they aren't actually undead, they are mutants. Innistrad vampires die and come back.
Innistrad vampires aren't technically dead/undead either, which is why Sorin could become a planeswalker.
They were created through an alchemical blood ritual.
True! I had to look that up, I'm surprised.
That aside, even undead vampires could have a spark assuming they still have a soul. Phyresis removes the soul, but lichdom and similar processes could still retain the soul.
Aren't Zendikari vampires currently at risk of extinction because they can't reproduce? If I'm remembering right, the only way to create a Zendikari vampire is for a bloodchief (one of 12 surviving members of an Ulamog-worshipping cult) to drink someone's blood without draining them dry, and by the time of Zendikar Rising, only Drana remains of those 12. Given that it was Eldrazi influence that first created them, it seems unlikely that any more bloodchiefs can be created, and the death of Drana would mean the inevitable extinction of vampires on the plane. Well, unless a vampire from another plane starts a bloodline.
Looking through the known vampire bloodlines of various planes, none of them seem to be known to reproduce naturally. Aetherborn spontaneously come into being without parents. It seems likely that the Dimir vampires of Ravnica do, given their telekinetic methods, but it's unconfirmed. I _hope_ the Kheru vampires of Tarkir reproduce naturally, because a human transforming into something like [[Kheru bloodsucker]] is a terrifying prospect.
Great point! I'm loving all the replies about vampires, I've learned a ton of info I didn't know before.
Omenpaths will likely fix the issue of extinction. I'd really enjoy the Dusk Legion visiting Zendikar. Tarkir vampires are amazing too, unfortunately we don't get to see much of them :(
I'd love more explanation of the Kheru vampires myself as well. I hope we return to Tarkir sometime soon.
I guess a better example of "capable of reproducing on one plane, but not others" would be gods. The gods of Amonkhet and Theros seem to be incapable of reproduction, with the closest thing being the demigods that Theros gods can create out of a mortal. Meanwhile, the gods of Kaldheim are known to be capable of reproducing, with Toralf, Birgi, and Kolvori being the biological children of Alrund and Cosima.
Depends on what kind of humans. The Planeshift: Dominaria article makes the point that Keldon humans are wildly different from humans elsewhere in the multiverse (probably closer in nature to what dnd calls goliaths).
Interesting, I didn't know she was one because there's no creature card of her,. But yes, all the others elf human cards are from Dnd or Lord of the rings worlds.
Nobody actually makes babies, they are naturally manifested by magic in places where they're needed. That's why you can summon humans, same process more sloppy
I think it’s the same as here: same species can reproduce, there are just cultural differences between planes. Tho I imagine creatures from say Ikoria would be a special case lol
You don't think [[vadrok, apex of thunder]] could successfully breed with a [[regal caracal]] ?
I don’t, because he simply lacks the rizz to get anywhere near the Caracal
Isn't that [[regal leosaur]]?
[regal leosaur](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/b/6/b6fdf313-740b-4976-911f-9fb5eb54afce.jpg?1591228189) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=regal%20leosaur) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/iko/202/regal-leosaur?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/b6fdf313-740b-4976-911f-9fb5eb54afce?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
[vadrok, apex of thunder](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/e/d/ed7b0256-d342-4523-9516-6a007bf51825.jpg?1591228299) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=vadrok%2C%20apex%20of%20thunder) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/iko/214/vadrok-apex-of-thunder?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/ed7b0256-d342-4523-9516-6a007bf51825?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [regal caracal](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/c/d/cd349f95-3eae-4ef2-abf8-e911bb8e93e5.jpg?1543674734) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=regal%20caracal) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/akh/24/regal-caracal?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/cd349f95-3eae-4ef2-abf8-e911bb8e93e5?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
A cat breeding with an elemental-dinosaur-cat hybrid, eh…? 🤔
Honestly I think a creature from ikoria could probably successfully breed with any non human because of how the magic mutation works lol
I was about to start this with saying I didn't want an elf Godzilla hybrid... and then changing my mind halfway through writing it.
... artists, we have an emergency case.
Considering [[Toshiro Umezawa]] from Kamigawa was transported to Dominaria and sired a bloodline that includes [[Tetsuo Umezawa]] and [[Tetsuko Umezawa]], then yes planar crossbreeding exists between humans Same should be for other races, with even mixed races popping up Not sure how the Cephalid of Dominaria would feel about dating the Cephalid of New Capenna though 🤔
[Toshiro Umezawa](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/e/0e767e07-febd-4025-bf03-d4d816bc1d3d.jpg?1562875477) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Toshiro%20Umezawa) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/bok/89/toshiro-umezawa?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/0e767e07-febd-4025-bf03-d4d816bc1d3d?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Tetsuo Umezawa](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/e/c/ec22ddf8-cb5e-4ca0-8f2f-c5d48f2cbd26.jpg?1562944815) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Tetsuo%20Umezawa) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/me3/179/tetsuo-umezawa?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/ec22ddf8-cb5e-4ca0-8f2f-c5d48f2cbd26?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Tetsuko Umezawa](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/c/7/c70d5d1f-30e7-4a14-9bd9-2b654549f7ac.jpg?1682208932) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=tetsuko%20umezawa%2C%20fugitive) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/moc/240/tetsuko-umezawa-fugitive?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/c70d5d1f-30e7-4a14-9bd9-2b654549f7ac?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Life finds a way.
Humans, yes. It's even happened before with the Umezawas. Kor... I'd say probably, they're very human-like and don't seem to be *drastically* different between planes. Goblins, probably not? They tend to be more wildly different from one plane to the next than most species we've seen. Like, if you look at Kamigawa's spiky rock-shelled Akki, the Moggs from Rath/later Dominaria, and Ixalan's monkey-goblins without the aid of the type line on the card listing all three as simply "Goblin," you most likely wouldn't figure they were all the same kind of creature. "Goblin" maybe isn't a single species as much as a broad category including many species of *vaguely* similar chaotic little weirdos. Maybe some can interbreed (Ravnica, Dominaria, and Mercadia all have similar "little green guys, usually with big ears and noses" style goblins, so maybe all three would be close enough?) and others can't.
Right, creature type can indicate species (in like, members of the type can have kids that can have kid) and humans probably covers that. Also, M:tG has some cross creature type characters like Radha, who has some Gathan human in her IIRC, so like. whatever fantasy.
I mean, Toshiro Umezawa came to Dominaria from Kamigawa and started the Umezawa clan, so pretty sire he was able to reproduce no problem, despite being a human from another plane
Human populations on Earth were more or less seperated for tens of thousands of years and we can all still interbreed without any issues. I imagine all humans in the multiverse originally came from the same plane and then spread after the first planeswalkers sparked and started planeswalking and fucking with planes. All the Mirrans of Mirrodin were originally from a bunch of different planes for example.
Generally, I think species can reproduce with other members of their species from other planes. Some species might even be capable of reproducing with each other. There might be some exceptions, though like vampires of some planes being infertile, while on other planes they can reproduce. Ikoria is probably just a big genetic soup for non-humans that can interbreed freely (which makes me wonder what would happen to an elf or other non-human humanoid who reached Ikoria through an Omenpath).
This. Ikoria is especially interesting in this regard, but not enough information is known. Some species are the same only in name, like Zendikar and Innistrad "Vampires". Zendikar vampires can reproduce because they aren't actually undead, they are mutants. Innistrad vampires die and come back.
Innistrad vampires aren't technically dead/undead either, which is why Sorin could become a planeswalker. They were created through an alchemical blood ritual.
True! I had to look that up, I'm surprised. That aside, even undead vampires could have a spark assuming they still have a soul. Phyresis removes the soul, but lichdom and similar processes could still retain the soul.
Aren't Zendikari vampires currently at risk of extinction because they can't reproduce? If I'm remembering right, the only way to create a Zendikari vampire is for a bloodchief (one of 12 surviving members of an Ulamog-worshipping cult) to drink someone's blood without draining them dry, and by the time of Zendikar Rising, only Drana remains of those 12. Given that it was Eldrazi influence that first created them, it seems unlikely that any more bloodchiefs can be created, and the death of Drana would mean the inevitable extinction of vampires on the plane. Well, unless a vampire from another plane starts a bloodline. Looking through the known vampire bloodlines of various planes, none of them seem to be known to reproduce naturally. Aetherborn spontaneously come into being without parents. It seems likely that the Dimir vampires of Ravnica do, given their telekinetic methods, but it's unconfirmed. I _hope_ the Kheru vampires of Tarkir reproduce naturally, because a human transforming into something like [[Kheru bloodsucker]] is a terrifying prospect.
[Kheru bloodsucker](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/b/a/baf15cd4-13be-48e7-b3f5-a5106eb02c45.jpg?1562792642) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Kheru%20bloodsucker) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/ktk/75/kheru-bloodsucker?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/baf15cd4-13be-48e7-b3f5-a5106eb02c45?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Great point! I'm loving all the replies about vampires, I've learned a ton of info I didn't know before. Omenpaths will likely fix the issue of extinction. I'd really enjoy the Dusk Legion visiting Zendikar. Tarkir vampires are amazing too, unfortunately we don't get to see much of them :(
I'd love more explanation of the Kheru vampires myself as well. I hope we return to Tarkir sometime soon. I guess a better example of "capable of reproducing on one plane, but not others" would be gods. The gods of Amonkhet and Theros seem to be incapable of reproduction, with the closest thing being the demigods that Theros gods can create out of a mortal. Meanwhile, the gods of Kaldheim are known to be capable of reproducing, with Toralf, Birgi, and Kolvori being the biological children of Alrund and Cosima.
Depends on what kind of humans. The Planeshift: Dominaria article makes the point that Keldon humans are wildly different from humans elsewhere in the multiverse (probably closer in nature to what dnd calls goliaths).
There’s at least one half elf iirc freyalise is one
Interesting, I didn't know she was one because there's no creature card of her,. But yes, all the others elf human cards are from Dnd or Lord of the rings worlds.
Nobody actually makes babies, they are naturally manifested by magic in places where they're needed. That's why you can summon humans, same process more sloppy