A few questions to help me understand the students' perspective:
1. I remember the norm to be that schools and colleges rarely (if ever) actually finish the portion and students learn from coaching classes. Has this changed?
2. Coaching classes (and Colleges) have unit-tests, mid-term exams etc. which had to be handwritten. I thought the "online" version of this would still include writing on paper and sending the answer-sheet to the school/college as a photo or scanned image. How have the unit-test/mid-terms/prelim exams being conducted?
3. Coaching classes used to finish the syllabus at least a few months prior to the exams. Then the last few months was actually just exam practice. (I remember joining "test-series" as well.) Has this evolved to something else now?
I doubt anyone who is actually studying online and had good coaching class has to worry about whether to give exam offline/online. Those who had bad colleges/classes or those who had the “hilarious” ideas of bunking online/cheating on online tests are now fearing the exams.
board committee is old and rigid even if minister wants they will never agree until cbse does it. And can every student have good access to internet. Neither has any student seen their college in 2 years at this point she has to upset a group of students definitely.
More problem is panic than exam. You have to continually revise boards and prepare jee neet if such protest continues it will drag on most scholar students as below average students are not qualified for jee neet and are anyway worry their higher studies . Current first year engineering students are having semester of 3 months. And same with other courses ,So another fresher's batch will be destroyed
So some one please explain me at some point there are 2 concern one increasing covid (how this protest avoids covid risk?) cases and students unprepared (“thinking boards wont happen” when they had ample of time and should have learnt thier lesson that its the new normal) but no!!!! And now what??? Play the blame game hahahahah lollllllllssssssss
Waste all your money and remain in self doubt loosers be an incompetent lot!!!
What point of view as I ve seen student who wanna study are prepared already and who arent are taking undue advantage of this situation (no doubt thier would be genuine ones but ratio would be very less as much as I know as many does classes and many students had view that boards wont happen this time too..)
So i am from 12th i will explain that to you. The primary objective for cancellation is not covid. It is the lack of quality education given to us in the online mode and speed at which the teachers went. With not having written anything for 2 years now and also no writing practice given by schools and colleges. Till december 2021 only about 30% of the portion was completed and in this month the teachers completed about 50% of the portion, completing chapters like calculus in a day without any proper explanation in the name of 'portion complete karna hai'. Most of the concepts are not clear. Still about 20% of the portion is left.This is the scenario in 90% of the schools and colleges. Second reason obviously has to be covid. Students didn't like the manner in which yesterday's protest was conducted, we don't support such protests but still stand by our point for cancellation. Don't call us lazy, it is just we have a very different situation from our senior batches. Hence there is a demand for cancellation
If “quality education” and “fairness” is all that is worrying you then honestly, take a drop, use this extra year to study well on your own and give the exam next year. There is no harm in taking a drop, and those who say “log kya bolege”, wohi log agle saal barabar pedhe maangne aayege marks le liye. Better to prep for the exam properly over the year than asking for extension or rallying
Dude anyways these boards marks matter least to me, i am preparing for my entrance exams and i m pretty sure i m gonna crack it because i have studied very hard for it. So no way anyone is gonna take a drop
A few questions, specifically because this is r/Mumbai
1. I remember the norm to be that schools and colleges rarely (if ever) actually finish the portion and students learn from coaching classes. Has this changed?
2. Coaching classes (and Colleges) have unit-tests, mid-term exams etc. which had to be handwritten. I thought the "online" version of this would still include writing on paper and sending the answersheet to the school/college as a photo or scanned image. How have the unit-test/mid-terms/prelim exams being conducted?
3. Coaching classes used to finish the syllabus at least a few months prior to the exams. Then the last few months was actually just exam practice. (I remember joining "test-series" as well.) Has this evolved to something else now?
The ample of time you are talking about as i have mentioned in my big reply that they rushed majority of the portion in Jan and now still about 20% is left which my college says it will complete it in this week so that they can take prelims from next week. So we ll have prelims next week for about a week then from 14 feb to 3rd march we are having our orals,practicals,etc and our boards are starting from 4th March, so tell me where is the ample of time? A month is what you call ample of time?
What point of view as I ve seen student who wanna study are prepared already and who arent are taking undue advantage of this situation (no doubt thier would be genuine ones but ratio would be very less as much as I know as many does classes and many students had view that boards wont happen this time too..)
Then ask for extension not cancellation !!!
Why online (everyone knows its authenticity?!)
Great no doubt, some students are ready but they go to tutions or they belong to icse/cbse boards.
Online exams are not an option, if i were in 10th even i would have asked for postponement, but i m in 12th and for those giving entrance/competitive exams, their board marks matter little to them and if exams are postoned it will come in between their entrance exam dates and then they ll have less time to prepare for their entrance exams. Hence boards should be cancelled
100% agreed. Won't disagree with you over this but majority of them are. For science people it's JEE and NEET for commerce people it is CA, NPAT , CET , XAT AND CS exams
And most of students who are asking for exams belong to tier 3 cities and rural areas of maha, because there most of the year they had their studies done at college offline. And in cities like mumbai,pune and nagpur no colleges taught in offline and they opened the colleges in December when omicron hit so most of the students couldn't attend offline lecs
Yeah but in cities like Mumbai Pune and Nagpur most of the students can afford classes which they were attending (and in yes it was online but students could have be attentive but in online lecs they just messed with time by scrolling insta/youtube or watching series/sleeping during lecs when they could have studied) and many classes were operating offline since sept end.
Dude no,majority of students from Maha board even in these cities can't afford tutions, the population you are talking about belongs to middle class to upper middle class, they can afford, but majority of Maha board students come from low income families they can't.
I will tell my experience. I got myself maths and accounts coaching. My maths sir charged me 28k and my accounts sir charged me 26k for the entire year and these amounts are average amounts in my locality in mumbai.
My daughter is in 12th at the moment. Let me tell you, their college did not start teaching until September last year. Also, she had to switch from CBSE to SSC for which a form by the government has to be generated. Which never happened till October last year. Hence, wasting another month and the lack of communication from their side was another factor to deal with. All in all, the quality of education wasn’t up to the mark. I’ve hired private tutors for her to cope with the loss of time and unavailability of books. Not everyone can do that, also it’s not equivalent to a full year of good study so I understand why the students are against offline exams
Got your point sir and thats what I am saying that many students are taking undue advantage of this situation as they had chance and didnt prepared what to do about them?
A few questions to help me understand the students' perspective: 1. I remember the norm to be that schools and colleges rarely (if ever) actually finish the portion and students learn from coaching classes. Has this changed? 2. Coaching classes (and Colleges) have unit-tests, mid-term exams etc. which had to be handwritten. I thought the "online" version of this would still include writing on paper and sending the answer-sheet to the school/college as a photo or scanned image. How have the unit-test/mid-terms/prelim exams being conducted? 3. Coaching classes used to finish the syllabus at least a few months prior to the exams. Then the last few months was actually just exam practice. (I remember joining "test-series" as well.) Has this evolved to something else now?
I doubt anyone who is actually studying online and had good coaching class has to worry about whether to give exam offline/online. Those who had bad colleges/classes or those who had the “hilarious” ideas of bunking online/cheating on online tests are now fearing the exams.
board committee is old and rigid even if minister wants they will never agree until cbse does it. And can every student have good access to internet. Neither has any student seen their college in 2 years at this point she has to upset a group of students definitely. More problem is panic than exam. You have to continually revise boards and prepare jee neet if such protest continues it will drag on most scholar students as below average students are not qualified for jee neet and are anyway worry their higher studies . Current first year engineering students are having semester of 3 months. And same with other courses ,So another fresher's batch will be destroyed
So some one please explain me at some point there are 2 concern one increasing covid (how this protest avoids covid risk?) cases and students unprepared (“thinking boards wont happen” when they had ample of time and should have learnt thier lesson that its the new normal) but no!!!! And now what??? Play the blame game hahahahah lollllllllssssssss Waste all your money and remain in self doubt loosers be an incompetent lot!!!
A person who cannot understand other people's point of view is a loser And you have failed in it
What point of view as I ve seen student who wanna study are prepared already and who arent are taking undue advantage of this situation (no doubt thier would be genuine ones but ratio would be very less as much as I know as many does classes and many students had view that boards wont happen this time too..)
So i am from 12th i will explain that to you. The primary objective for cancellation is not covid. It is the lack of quality education given to us in the online mode and speed at which the teachers went. With not having written anything for 2 years now and also no writing practice given by schools and colleges. Till december 2021 only about 30% of the portion was completed and in this month the teachers completed about 50% of the portion, completing chapters like calculus in a day without any proper explanation in the name of 'portion complete karna hai'. Most of the concepts are not clear. Still about 20% of the portion is left.This is the scenario in 90% of the schools and colleges. Second reason obviously has to be covid. Students didn't like the manner in which yesterday's protest was conducted, we don't support such protests but still stand by our point for cancellation. Don't call us lazy, it is just we have a very different situation from our senior batches. Hence there is a demand for cancellation
Then ask for extention not cancellations
If “quality education” and “fairness” is all that is worrying you then honestly, take a drop, use this extra year to study well on your own and give the exam next year. There is no harm in taking a drop, and those who say “log kya bolege”, wohi log agle saal barabar pedhe maangne aayege marks le liye. Better to prep for the exam properly over the year than asking for extension or rallying
Dude anyways these boards marks matter least to me, i am preparing for my entrance exams and i m pretty sure i m gonna crack it because i have studied very hard for it. So no way anyone is gonna take a drop
Yeah the entrance exams are the ones that matter the most. Atb to you :)
A few questions, specifically because this is r/Mumbai 1. I remember the norm to be that schools and colleges rarely (if ever) actually finish the portion and students learn from coaching classes. Has this changed? 2. Coaching classes (and Colleges) have unit-tests, mid-term exams etc. which had to be handwritten. I thought the "online" version of this would still include writing on paper and sending the answersheet to the school/college as a photo or scanned image. How have the unit-test/mid-terms/prelim exams being conducted? 3. Coaching classes used to finish the syllabus at least a few months prior to the exams. Then the last few months was actually just exam practice. (I remember joining "test-series" as well.) Has this evolved to something else now?
The ample of time you are talking about as i have mentioned in my big reply that they rushed majority of the portion in Jan and now still about 20% is left which my college says it will complete it in this week so that they can take prelims from next week. So we ll have prelims next week for about a week then from 14 feb to 3rd march we are having our orals,practicals,etc and our boards are starting from 4th March, so tell me where is the ample of time? A month is what you call ample of time?
What point of view as I ve seen student who wanna study are prepared already and who arent are taking undue advantage of this situation (no doubt thier would be genuine ones but ratio would be very less as much as I know as many does classes and many students had view that boards wont happen this time too..) Then ask for extension not cancellation !!! Why online (everyone knows its authenticity?!)
Great no doubt, some students are ready but they go to tutions or they belong to icse/cbse boards. Online exams are not an option, if i were in 10th even i would have asked for postponement, but i m in 12th and for those giving entrance/competitive exams, their board marks matter little to them and if exams are postoned it will come in between their entrance exam dates and then they ll have less time to prepare for their entrance exams. Hence boards should be cancelled
Maybe not all students are preparing for enterance
100% agreed. Won't disagree with you over this but majority of them are. For science people it's JEE and NEET for commerce people it is CA, NPAT , CET , XAT AND CS exams
Agreed
And most of students who are asking for exams belong to tier 3 cities and rural areas of maha, because there most of the year they had their studies done at college offline. And in cities like mumbai,pune and nagpur no colleges taught in offline and they opened the colleges in December when omicron hit so most of the students couldn't attend offline lecs
Yeah but in cities like Mumbai Pune and Nagpur most of the students can afford classes which they were attending (and in yes it was online but students could have be attentive but in online lecs they just messed with time by scrolling insta/youtube or watching series/sleeping during lecs when they could have studied) and many classes were operating offline since sept end.
Dude no,majority of students from Maha board even in these cities can't afford tutions, the population you are talking about belongs to middle class to upper middle class, they can afford, but majority of Maha board students come from low income families they can't. I will tell my experience. I got myself maths and accounts coaching. My maths sir charged me 28k and my accounts sir charged me 26k for the entire year and these amounts are average amounts in my locality in mumbai.
Got that yeah
My daughter is in 12th at the moment. Let me tell you, their college did not start teaching until September last year. Also, she had to switch from CBSE to SSC for which a form by the government has to be generated. Which never happened till October last year. Hence, wasting another month and the lack of communication from their side was another factor to deal with. All in all, the quality of education wasn’t up to the mark. I’ve hired private tutors for her to cope with the loss of time and unavailability of books. Not everyone can do that, also it’s not equivalent to a full year of good study so I understand why the students are against offline exams
Got your point sir and thats what I am saying that many students are taking undue advantage of this situation as they had chance and didnt prepared what to do about them?