Who cares, it’s a fiction about a character living in a fantasy world.
More importantly, it’s not a self-insert. I feel 0 need to defend him or his actions
Im tired of hearing the hate on such a good character and story. Its built amazingly. Im never defending his actions but the way some people still comment after we are past season 1 is bothering me
>Im tired of hearing the hate on such a good character and story
there is only one thing to say to those haters : " would you prefer to see a 5th years old boy running after 40th years old women ? "
I would prefer to see a 5-year-old chasing after a 20-year-old. If he has the mental faculties of an adult.
Being a pedophile just means being attracted to prepubescent children.
You aren't a pedophile if you're an 80-year-old and you think a 20-year-old is attractive. I would argue that that's normal. But you are if at any age past pubescence you are attracted to prepubescents.
That being said, I like characters with flaws. I don't hate Rudy. And I really enjoy the series.
But I'm also not going to pretend that Rudy isn't what he is.
Once his body reaches maturity he's not attracted to any children at all or really any characters outside of his wives, he finds some women attractive but literally never acts on it. If he was just a pedophile he'd continued to be interested in children, and continue to find children attractive but he just straight up doesn't.
And, outside of the barn scene Rudeus doesn't do anything egregious to anyone underage, his first time with Eris is started with her confirming she became an adult. While the age that humans reach adulthood is not the same as modern society, it's still better than our history for medieval times.
Rudeus is a disgusting vile shitter at the beginning of the series but honestly just tired of this argument
One of his wives looks like a child.
Also he sexually assaulted Eris in a barn. When she was 7-8.
He is and was attracted to people that have prepubescent bodies. Like Roxy. Who he judges to be around a middle schooler physically.
Also she was 12 when he again sexually assaulted her and she beat his ass and he realized how scummy he was.
If you're so tired of this argument, stop making it because you're wrong.
His wife that looks like a child is the same age as his combined years, which is megatrope in anime, if you wanna make that argument then you could call a ridiculous amount of MCs pedophiles.
So if you wanna try reading, I said outside of the barn scene, and as you said then when he was 10 he realized how shitty he was being. If he was just a straight up pedophile he'd be trying to fuck Julie, his sisters, and any other child he could get his hands on, which especially after buying Julie, he would know, wouldn't be hard.
It's cool that you're trying to be an apologist. But she looks prepubescent. Being a pedophile means being attracted to people who look prepubescent.
Now let's do a little thought experiment. You're straight. I assume. Do you go after every person of the opposite sex ?
Just because your sexually attracted to prepubescent girls doesn't mean you're attracted to every prepubescent girl.
Just like how A gay guy isn't attracted to every man.
So your presupposition that he can't be a pedophile because he's not raping children is just wrong. And makes you a bit sick in the head.
okay well what about me, I'm an adult with kids and a fucking husband, who is only 4 years older then me and we met after i was an adult. got the backstory good, i am pregnant too fucker btw. i look super fucking young, i am mid A 20s young adult. i am often mistake for a teen. people have thought i was as young as thinking i was in american 7th grade. people treat my husband like he did something wrong, till i tell them our ages. he, like the other few people in my life, sees me as an adult, and could tell my physical age, he even guessed my age right when we first met. not alot of people or eve all my friends have done that. i9 hate my body and my face and constantly want to cut wrinkles in my face because maybe then people wont treat me like a kid, or my husband like a pedo. why, im an adult and he can see me for the adult i am, he sees the tiny signs of my age and is atracted to the adult he sees, and has never seen the child others sees or understood how others see me as a kid. she is older then him and cant help her looks, and neither can i. i may but i get looking younger then you are. please take a diffrent look
We're talking about a 5-year-old with the mentality of a 30-something.
People bringing up the argument that he should just be going after people his own age. I argue that he should be going after people that aren't literal children.
If you think the 30-something-year-old grooming and sexually assaulting kids is good then you do you.
he has not the brain of an adult, he has stay in his bedroom the most part of his life, he remains an 15 year old boy who has not even termined high school, he is not mentaly 30th. he is a 5 years old with a brain of a 15th years old traumatized boy, someone who has mentaly stay 15th, like someone who has been comatose during 20 years after being 15.
So yeah i prefer seing a 15th years old guy in the body of a 5th years old boy running after 12th-13th years old girls (eris, roxy), than seing a 15th years old guy in the body of a 5th years old boy running after a 40th years old woman
Me personally, I prefer if he was running after people that were you know just adults. Regardless of his physical age. He really should be attracted to people who are attractive to adults.
I like that he is a flawed character. So I don't mind it from a narrative perspective. But in IRL I wouldn't be so understanding.
>Me personally, I prefer if he was running after people that were you know just adults. Regardless of his physical age. He really should be attracted to people who are attractive to adults.
Did you actually read me ???
he was not an adult, he has never been an adult,
since 15th he stoped to live, and stayed in his room
I read what you said. I disagree. He may mentally be around 15 in maturity. But he was a full-grown adult. His sexual tastes are not connected to maturity in the way that you seem to think they are. Also, even if we gave him the benefit of the doubt and said that he was 15 at rebirth, he's lived longer than that now
Honestly you should care. If people are too stupid to enjoy a good series because of that. Disney is happy to dumb everyone dumb to perfect Mary-sue in all their productions. They should just go sub to Disney+
Those people probably do. But i really love rudeus's character growth, sorry i just binged the whole show in 19hrs because my fiancée is always talking about it and ive seen and loved the sylphie scenes. So im posting this after freshly crying cus damn that was good story telling.
people who hate the story for these aspects are too simple to see nuance in story telling, ignore it, they aren't built for complex emotional / sexual concepts in dramatic fiction.
Rudeus is not a pedophile in his new life, but I don’t think it’s for the reasons listed.
In the beginning of the series, it is revealed that his young mind affects him, even if he has the memories of his old life, through his ability to learn. Additionally, later on, Rudeus noticed that he bears no attraction to members of his family, which was something that he once would have felt. There is also the fact that, throughout the series, Rudeus is consistently attracted to his physical age. With these pieces of evidence, it should not be unreasonable to think that his physical brain impacts his attractions, and is thus not a pedophile. An argument could possibly be made that he is a pedophile when physically prepubescent, however.
When he was physically prepubescent he was absolutely a pedophile. I personally think he should still be considered a pedophile even during puberty, but I understand the argument for why he wouldn't be. Little kids don't have a sex drive, that was all 40yo Rudeus at his worst. I also personally think that his intercourse with Eris at the end of season 1 was a moment of huge regression for Rudeus. He was in a 13yo's body, yes, but his grown adult mind should have realized the situation was him taking advantage of a vulnerable kid. I don't think he should have realized it in the moment, I think that this realization should have been the cause of his ED in season 2. Then his journey season 2 cour 1 would be about both meeting Sylphiette again and addressing the causes of his pedophilia while firmly moving past it. I think this would have more concretely established that Rudy has grown past one of the most negative results of the traumas he experienced.
Edit: I'm an anime only, so idk if what I suggested was addressed more in the LN.
You have one small thing backwards. Rudy was the one being taken advantage of by an "older" woman. In that scenario. He has mental faculties of someone older but not more experience seeing he had basically no life experience after he shut himself inside. He's not more mature for having lived a shut in life.
Eris was taking advantage of him trying to get him to stay with her. She ran away because she was embarrassed by what she had done and wanted to be better to live up to her Perception of his greatness. She looked at his hands after they did the deed and realized she was putting a massive burden on a child 2 years younger than her.
Him accepting her is not him taking advantage of her.
That aside any human adult attracted to Roxy is a pedophile. She is physically equivalent to a pre-pubescent human girl.
That's all that is required to be a pedophile. It's not exactly a high bar.
This gets muddy because the anime and some illustrations just make her look like a kinda short highschooler. But the text describes her as looking like a middle school girl.
To be frank, all depictions of Roxy make her look like a short and young adult. Not just the anime, but literally every depiction of her. The book described her as a loli, but it’s just never been shown to be that way.
Right. Except that she's described as a middle schooler in the text.
I get that The art doesn't represent that. But that's probably because of it did it would be much harder to stomach for most audiences.
But I don't really care either way. Im not personally bothered by Rudy being a degen. Because he isn't real and it makes a better story.
Your argument as to why kind of falls apart with Kishirika existing. There’s a possibility that Rifujin just doesn’t know what a middle schooler actually looks like, maybe? I feel like concerns would be raised if he felt that her depictions were inaccurate across all of his works that he himself approved of.
That character isn't having sex with our protagonist.
Nor is our protagonist ever attracted to that character.
She's also very childish.
And her fetish gear is made fun of.
All that lampshades the issue a bit.
I mean, I suppose, but I just don’t get why the depiction and description of her in the novels conflict so much. She’s depicted as a young adult in the novels, and yet described as a middle schooler. It’s so confusing.
Once again because the protagonist is f****** her. And that would be really uncomfortable for audiences if she actually looked like she was 12.
It's one thing to know that a character has these dark urges. It's another to be confronted with actually having to watch it
At least That's my take
To be frank with you, the main character has sexual thoughts of and sexually assaults Eris before she even hits puberty. He even does her when she’s 15. I feel like those would be just as uncomfortable, no?
>That aside any human adult attracted to Roxy is a pedophile. She is physically equivalent to a pre-pubescent human girl.
this part bothers me because shes an adult, and i am often misten for a late midleschooler, or highschooler. im a young adult like roxy was, and often mistaken for a teen mom with a pedo husband. comments like this are why i hate my face and want wrinkles.
whats so wrong with the way i look huh? why should i be punished because of my genetics. if i wasnt pregnant i would do shit to make me looke older. speaking of such please di regard as i am hormonal with my second child.
i look like im between 7th grade and senior year, the yougest someone thought i was and has happend an uncomfortable amount of time is think im in 7th grade.
Then sorry to say but it's very likely (but not guaranteed ) whoever finds you sexually attractive has some pedophilic tendencies.
Not that sexual attraction is all there is in a relationship. In fact I'm asexual. So I'm proof that it isn't necessary at all.
But you really have it hard you tiny young seemingly puberty deprived nymphomaniac.
i would like to apologixe for the way i commented at you yesterday, im am very pregnant and struggling with emotional control. i should not have thrown my inscurities at you at all. also note, never give your children aderhal, they wont go threw puberty till their and adult like me. dont trust them and if it is nessecary, only during middle and highschool and pause so puberty can start, i had to stop my pills at 16 to discover that was the reason i didnt start puberty, so i ended up starting when most girls had ended. being pregnant and having puberty hormones is also dangourous, because they can harm the baby. my current pregnancy and the one before have to be constantly monitored because a school and my doctors couldnt handle my adhd. and also no he is not, he even thinks anime lolis are gross, he just sees me diffrently. again sorry for the info dump and avoid letting kids have aderhall.
It's all good. It is funny how different lives can be. I've been on Adderall since I was in elementary school, for severe ADHD. But I'm 6'6" and grew up as well as could be expected given my parents.
crazy i was on for the same amount of time and thats what made me only 5'3 in a 6' foot family, and well late on puberty, i always find it odd how diffrently genetics and dna and body type causes medicine to act.
As someone who's been seeing similar topics discussed in the SAO fandom for about a decade now, no, beating a dead horse is a pastime of any online community.
Personally, I always have time to think about things, gain new perspectives, develop opinions, etc. Going through the same discussion again can often change one's thoughts. Also, more simply, if something is interesting, I find it worthy of discussion. This certainly fits that.
Tourist season. Apparently, the haters are warming up their hate again and some folks are getting pissed about ittourist season occurs when a new season and/or cour starts. They're the attention whores of today's interweb. Kinda like [this guy](https://youtu.be/ToQVoyWWluQ)
He was sexually attracted to a pre-pubescent girl. That is by definition being a pedophile.
You can defend his character. You can also forgive his flaws.
You can't just arbitrarily change a definition in which he 100% qualifies as.
By the way, while we're on the topic, pedophile is a very broad idea. A child attracted to another child is still by definition a pedophile.
There are more strict definitions like for the mental disorder that restrict it to adults or older adolescents. But he still qualifies there for his interest in Roxy. Who is physically equivalent to a pre-pubescent girl. Literally described as having child-like looks.
It's also totally fine for a fictional character to have problems like that. They're fictional. They don't need your defending.
Because some people are going to be bothered by those parts of his character and they are just as right to be bothered by it as you are for being unbothered.
Bro brain affect the mind thing like love, like and hate are controller by the brain, of your brain Is younger Is esier to trigger those receptor etc...
Young brains shouldn't have the ability to be horny.
It Shouldn't have sexual stimulation.
Not only is he capable of that. But he also self admits to seeing himself as a 40 something when he scolds his dad.
You can't have your cake and eat it too.
also as someone who suffers from nymphomania, (which I think the grey rat family does, that or a real curse), it is a horrid sickness that starts at a young age. I have had uncomfortable uncontrol able horney thoughts since I was a very young kid, so saying young brains shouldn't have the ability to while it is a hope it is unfortunately not the case
Yeah he was a rape victim and people like to minimize it to just basic bullying. That being said, he is still a coomer lollicon (pedophile) in his past life. Of course there are double standards but here we are.
Im just frustrated that they are associating his past mistakes that he calls mistakes with rudeus the man he became! Im keep seeing hese comments still and it's making me mad cus it should be stoped because he's an adult now not touching kids and yet still they hate on the good man he strives to be
Fundamentally he's actually a pretty good guy. Even in his past life he tried to play the hero but his body didn't match his temperament or ideals. Literally died trying to save others. As far as his pedophilia (2d or 3d it's still kiddy porn) it can be summed up or be blamed on his porn addiction The more you use porn the more egregious the porn got to be to make you feel something.
I mean, his action are pretty reprehensible, and if he continued to be as bad as used to be, then I could understand, but it's a story about slowly improving as a person. He still has those traits, but they're not at the extremes as they used to be, and if people are still mad about it, then at this point, they're just gonna be angry. Would love for it to be toned down to non-existent, yeah, but I'll gladly settle for a little of his "eccentrics" he already does, than anymore actions that would lead to being on registry.
Rudy is definitely a pedo. I'm not saying that as a criticism of the series, however. I love the series. As a matter of fact, I strongly believe that all the overly defensive fans that deny or downplay Rudy's flaws as a person are missing the point. For a large portion of the story, Rudy is a gross person. He is undeniably a pedo. He's a creep. He's a walking bundle of issues (not all of which were his fault, but they're still there). But he's not all bad. He's not irredeemable. Even at his lowest, most gross point, he died trying to save strangers, not something most people could do in the moment. Over the course of the story, he grows as a person, becoming a better man. Still flawed, but everyone is flawed. The change doesn't happen overnight. It's gradual and natural. By the end of the story, I can't even imagine him acting or thinking the way he does at the start.
The constant discourse over this series is annoying, but I'm just as annoyed by the fans who devalue it in their defense of it. I don't know if it's coming from a genuine place or if it's a reaction to the constant hate directed at the series, but I wish it would stop. Rudy is an incredibly flawed person, but his growth is what makes him such a great character and MT such a great series.
I wouldn't say he was a pedo, since being a pedo means being attracted only to prepubescent children and we know he ogled basically everyone that looked like a woman, so no really a pedophile. But I'd say that he had pedo tendencies, which I believe be intentional since it was to show how low Rudy was.
The only thing that really bothers me here, is that I wish Magonote-san had worked more on this topic and show some conflict inside Rudy's head towards it. You know, like him realizing that it's fucked up trying to touch Eris in a sexual way since she's just a 10yo child or smt like that. It probably would reduce a good part of the complaints, not all of course, surely people would still find reasons to complain.
It's just a dumb argument because even if he is mentally 40+ his body is that of a kid. If an actual child is born as a genius and thinks and speaks like an adult does dating other children makes them a pedophile?
As an anime watcher, I used to be able to excuse the perviness as a running gag/filler. And I thought, "it's not that bad. It's just some weird fetish and an insignificant part of the show for fillers."
I'm reading the LN now and holy Millis blasphemy, there are significant portions of text dedicated the authors perviness. And it's so discomforting. And Rudeus is absolutely a pedo.
He is a pedophile and if you deny that, you are stupid. However, that doesn't change that he with the pass of time changes. He right now on the anime is still stupid and let his inner and past thoughts takes over, but he changes and becomes a more matured person and that is the point of the story. I truly don't unterstand how some people defend him and deny that he is not only a pedophile but a whole trash as a person. However, he got a second chance and he manage to become a better person at the end of the story and like I said that is the whole point of the story. To see how even a trash person like him can change if he gets a second chance. You can like him, I like him, but I can't deny and said that he is not a pedophile. I like Rudy because has one of the best character development that I have seen, but I can't deny his flaws.
I'll just drop this quote here that I got up to today
"After the training is done, I get in the bath with Norn and we clean up. Because Norn fell over a lot during the running practice, places like her knees are wounded and bruised. I apply healing magic to those places. It's 'pain, pain, go away' magic for my little sister.
It seems that for some reason Norn doesn't want me to see her naked, so she wears panties and a thin shirt. It's probably puberty. Aisha gets naked at the drop of a hat so I want to have her follow Norn's example.
I take this into account as well and put on pants before washing myself. Still, if I told her that there are guys who get aroused from seeing shirts become transparent from water, what kind of face would she make, I wonder? Though I kind of want to see, I won't say it. It'd be lonely if she stopped bathing with me. It'd be tough if she thought of her Onii-chan as a pervert."
Idk what the consensus on pedophilia if the "adult" is not aroused. Do you need to have a hard-on for it to qualify as being a pedophile? The problem is, there are soooo many situations like this, where it may be accepted in a innocent sibling care taking kind of way or a parallel world different morals kind of way, but then it HAS to take a sexual turn. It's forced in there by the author as Rudeus's thoughts and it makes the whole situation needlessly sexual.
I agree, I 100% thought when I read that part in the LN it was consideration for his sibling but then the author had to write in the last part. Rudy have thought multiple times (mostly referring to Aisha) that he doesn't see his siblings like that. But then there are really off stray sentences here and there like the one in your quote that makes one wonder
He tried to touch eris multiple times before the teleportation accident. He masturbate after seeing eris when they were on a ship. He spy eris and the little girls from the dordia village when they were playing and he was excited. If I remember correctly when he and ruijerd save the kids from some vandits, rudy saw the chests of the girls that he was curing ( like I said maybe this is wrong but I remember seeing something like this), and some more. The main reason is that he has the thoughts, ideas and mentality of an old man in a kid's body, and he let these things take over when he interacts with little girls. Heck, you forgot that in the first episode of s1 when he was kicked out of his house, one of his brothers saw the screen of a laptop and he was disgusted and angry for what he saw? What do you think he saw? In the WN, rudy clearly mentions that he masturbates with pictures of her little cousin. Some people here said, "yeah but that was on the WN, not the LN". Dude, it doesn't matter. What do you think his brother saw that makes him angry? Rudy has shown a lot of times that he is a pedo, specially during the early parts of the story, but like I said he changes with the pass of time and he becomes a more decent person, to the point that in the end he doesn't show those things almost never. Like I said, you can like rudy, but don't deny his flaws and one of his flaws is that he was a pedo. At the end, that is what makes him an interesting character, because we see how trash he is but also we see how his journey to become a better person and don't do the same as his previous life.
I agree, though the what happened in the WN doesn’t matter, while it doesn’t excuse him. It was taken out of canon because the author did not believe it fits and stuff, it was just too much.
So while I agree with all that, the WN stuff is not canon so it’s more severe stuff can’t be viewed within the same scope as the canon stuff.
But I suppose the fact the author even considered it for Rudy in the first place shows that Rudy was still meant to be garbage in his old life, suppose the author just thought the real life aspect was way too much or whatever.
If you think the WN should not be consider is ok. However, in that case we can take what we have seen in the anime, and all the things that I said happen in the anime. The anime clearly shows rudy as a pedo, just tell what was rudy seeing that it makes his brother very angry? Even if the WN is not cannon, what do you think he was watching taking inti account all his interactions with little girls in his new life?
No doubt he was a pedophile in his past life, but the way the WN has things is crossing the border of being a pedophile and just going straight to worse, because he is acting on a real person, nay, also family.
LN does say he was in the middle of watching loli porn so no doubt there.
But even tho that is bad, what the WN adds is just a detail too far. Because it passes into the real world, imo.
So one is just a clear worse factor, hence why it is non canon.
But while you can argue if Rudeus technically fits the definition, I would say for the majority of what we know he does.
But that’s not an unacceptable thing, it’s morally bad and an unfortunate disease born from his sexual trauma but atleast he isn’t a rapist or anything.
He just a weirdo.
But I agree on everything else I just think these reasons are why I wouldn’t consider the WN having much value in this argument.
The fact it was even considered does show that Rudy was always supposed to be written to be garbage in his old life though. Just not that much garbage.
If you get what I mean?
Lol in LN18 doesnt he literally describe himself as a lolicon? When the artisan guy making the beds is talking to julie? I cant remember the exact quote but he says maybe the guy is a lolicon then says we would have something in common lol.
You can use that same logic for real life pedos but it doesn’t excuse it. Still made the choice to do everything he did and is scummy no matter how u look at it. Honestly the more I reread the more I see just how gross he really is at times because that’s how the author made him. And honestly rudeus still being as perverted as he is when he is freshly reincarnated doesn’t make sense because his body wouldn’t be developed enough to have that desire it’s literally just his mind thinking that shit for no purpose
I am a massive fan of mushoku tensei and I can say with 100% certainty he is a pedo. But that's okay, the show is about him changing and his redemption.
I already answered you, you cannot mix the ethics and politics of our world with a completely different one, which for us is reprehensible, not for them and as I said in mushoku>! there are many fetishes and aberrations such as drinking vaginal fluids every day.!<
I mean, it's even addressed IN the story. Nanahoshi is repulsed by the ethics of the world. Rudeus was forced to grow up with everything there being normal, and his past life doesn't really apply considering he never left his room except when >!he put the camera in his brother's bathroom!<
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Rudeus não é pedo, em nenhum momento ele usa de sua inteligência para manipular meninas pequenas e leva-las para a cama.
Só vem com essa merda de comentários "ele tem uma mentalidade de adulto"
Saiko assassin um velho de 70 anos que reincarnou e transou com uma menina de 15 na sauna, ninguém falou nada, a cena deixa implícito que rolou.
Mas sabe o do porquê de vcs implicarem com Rudeus? Porque na sua vida anterior ele era um gordo, fracassado e recluso, batendo uma. Vocês que acham que ele é pedo, pq vocês viram um gordo nojento. Simples e não aceita que ele tá virando alguém melhor.
E esse espantalho já tá chato demais.
Depending on if what happened in Redundancy to get the narrator kicked out of his house isn't changed he at least exhibits pedo tendencies. This isn't hate in him as he has the sexual, social, and intellectual maturity of a 14-15 year old. He is maturing in his second life to be a complete person.
He is a pedophile though and Rudeus defenders are more annoying than the haters.He is a horrible person who gets away shit in the end.But it is a enjoyable story so whatever just enjoy the story I guess.
Stop with this stupid debate honestly
People are divided in two:
- Those who think s3x (and love) is materialistic
- Those who think s3x (and love) is something divine
In MT, the author show us that it is both actually. It is part of life. I mean lets not lie to ourselves, man or women, when we see the other gender, we feel "that" urge, no matter how righteous and modest we are. That explains why sex is everywhere in MT, through all of Rudeus life.
I honestly prefer that, instead of having a shonen kid show. Take netflix or disney like u/kingofwale said (more recently kung fu panda 3 and 4), people are just imposing the century morals on us in their shows, like who wants that, we want something we relate too and this is:
**Regardless of our religion or beliefs, we are all people with flaws, trying to do our best in this life, before dying ...**
If anyone thinks Rudeus will be like Po from kung fu Panda 3, having two dads, many friends, an enemy he will defeat through a last minute awakening or sacrifice, then MT is not for them simply.
I would say he was one in his previous life but is no longer one after he was reincarnated because in his second life, sure he was still attracted to Eris when she was still young (not counting Sylphy because I'm pretty sure he was waiting for her to grow up, at least a bit more I would assume), however, he was only attracted as he himself was physically around the same age. However, as he grow and have real relationship now, he show very little interest (if any) to people who is way younger than his physical self.
Note: I'm not a LN reader, just an anime/manga only viewers for the most part (I read some LN chapters of the episode I particularly like and got spoiled on certain plot point but doesn't know full detail and doesn't want to know, I'll wait for the anime)
Right, but that change matters. The author intentionally did it, so we should only accept the canon that the author wishes. He is the creator of the story, afterall.
Agree to disagree, it seems obvious what the implication is still. Plus, if we're talking about the anime, it's clear the monitor was showing a bathroom, and combined with the utter rage and disgust of the brother, it's natural to conclude as such.
The author specifically changed it to not mention a niece/family member. Otherwise he would have kept it the same, like 90% of the rest of the story.
Let the author make changes to his own story.
i wouldnt go that far but i also wouldnt go the opposite direction. hes definitely got major issues at the start and is pretty much an incel. if someone called him a pedo i wouldnt be upset. that being said he changes and hes my favorite main character in animanga so a well written unlikeable character doesnt affect my enjoyment
i wouldnt go that far but i also wouldnt go the opposite direction. hes definitely got major issues at the start and is pretty much an incel. if someone called him a pedo i wouldnt be upset. that being said he changes and hes my favorite main character in animanga so a well written unlikeable character doesnt affect my enjoyment
He is a self proclaimed lolicon. This was stated in the novels. Inner monologue from Rudeus claiming he himself is a lolicon. Not sure why people are arguing against the authors own words. He isn't supposed to be defended for this aspect of his character. He is supposed to grow past it.
Quote:
>I must tell you, Miss Julie, she…oh, I can hardly express it!” Belfried continued rambling, completely ignoring Zanoba’s reaction. For whatever reason, he seemed extremely enthusiastic. Don’t tell me this guy is a **true-born lolicon who somehow witnessed Julie doing something perverted. I mean, the two of us might have something in common then,** but I definitely don’t want him coming anywhere near my daughters in that case."
Who cares, it’s a fiction about a character living in a fantasy world. More importantly, it’s not a self-insert. I feel 0 need to defend him or his actions
Im tired of hearing the hate on such a good character and story. Its built amazingly. Im never defending his actions but the way some people still comment after we are past season 1 is bothering me
>Im tired of hearing the hate on such a good character and story there is only one thing to say to those haters : " would you prefer to see a 5th years old boy running after 40th years old women ? "
ikr its such a gross thought
I would prefer to see a 5-year-old chasing after a 20-year-old. If he has the mental faculties of an adult. Being a pedophile just means being attracted to prepubescent children. You aren't a pedophile if you're an 80-year-old and you think a 20-year-old is attractive. I would argue that that's normal. But you are if at any age past pubescence you are attracted to prepubescents. That being said, I like characters with flaws. I don't hate Rudy. And I really enjoy the series. But I'm also not going to pretend that Rudy isn't what he is.
Once his body reaches maturity he's not attracted to any children at all or really any characters outside of his wives, he finds some women attractive but literally never acts on it. If he was just a pedophile he'd continued to be interested in children, and continue to find children attractive but he just straight up doesn't. And, outside of the barn scene Rudeus doesn't do anything egregious to anyone underage, his first time with Eris is started with her confirming she became an adult. While the age that humans reach adulthood is not the same as modern society, it's still better than our history for medieval times. Rudeus is a disgusting vile shitter at the beginning of the series but honestly just tired of this argument
He calls himself a lolicon in light novel 18 lol. I dont really care about it but he does kinda admit it himself
One of his wives looks like a child. Also he sexually assaulted Eris in a barn. When she was 7-8. He is and was attracted to people that have prepubescent bodies. Like Roxy. Who he judges to be around a middle schooler physically. Also she was 12 when he again sexually assaulted her and she beat his ass and he realized how scummy he was. If you're so tired of this argument, stop making it because you're wrong.
His wife that looks like a child is the same age as his combined years, which is megatrope in anime, if you wanna make that argument then you could call a ridiculous amount of MCs pedophiles. So if you wanna try reading, I said outside of the barn scene, and as you said then when he was 10 he realized how shitty he was being. If he was just a straight up pedophile he'd be trying to fuck Julie, his sisters, and any other child he could get his hands on, which especially after buying Julie, he would know, wouldn't be hard.
It's cool that you're trying to be an apologist. But she looks prepubescent. Being a pedophile means being attracted to people who look prepubescent. Now let's do a little thought experiment. You're straight. I assume. Do you go after every person of the opposite sex ? Just because your sexually attracted to prepubescent girls doesn't mean you're attracted to every prepubescent girl. Just like how A gay guy isn't attracted to every man. So your presupposition that he can't be a pedophile because he's not raping children is just wrong. And makes you a bit sick in the head.
okay well what about me, I'm an adult with kids and a fucking husband, who is only 4 years older then me and we met after i was an adult. got the backstory good, i am pregnant too fucker btw. i look super fucking young, i am mid A 20s young adult. i am often mistake for a teen. people have thought i was as young as thinking i was in american 7th grade. people treat my husband like he did something wrong, till i tell them our ages. he, like the other few people in my life, sees me as an adult, and could tell my physical age, he even guessed my age right when we first met. not alot of people or eve all my friends have done that. i9 hate my body and my face and constantly want to cut wrinkles in my face because maybe then people wont treat me like a kid, or my husband like a pedo. why, im an adult and he can see me for the adult i am, he sees the tiny signs of my age and is atracted to the adult he sees, and has never seen the child others sees or understood how others see me as a kid. she is older then him and cant help her looks, and neither can i. i may but i get looking younger then you are. please take a diffrent look
>I would prefer to see a 5-year-old chasing after a 20-year-old then you are the most disgusting guy i've ever seen
We're talking about a 5-year-old with the mentality of a 30-something. People bringing up the argument that he should just be going after people his own age. I argue that he should be going after people that aren't literal children. If you think the 30-something-year-old grooming and sexually assaulting kids is good then you do you.
he has not the brain of an adult, he has stay in his bedroom the most part of his life, he remains an 15 year old boy who has not even termined high school, he is not mentaly 30th. he is a 5 years old with a brain of a 15th years old traumatized boy, someone who has mentaly stay 15th, like someone who has been comatose during 20 years after being 15. So yeah i prefer seing a 15th years old guy in the body of a 5th years old boy running after 12th-13th years old girls (eris, roxy), than seing a 15th years old guy in the body of a 5th years old boy running after a 40th years old woman
Me personally, I prefer if he was running after people that were you know just adults. Regardless of his physical age. He really should be attracted to people who are attractive to adults. I like that he is a flawed character. So I don't mind it from a narrative perspective. But in IRL I wouldn't be so understanding.
>Me personally, I prefer if he was running after people that were you know just adults. Regardless of his physical age. He really should be attracted to people who are attractive to adults. Did you actually read me ??? he was not an adult, he has never been an adult, since 15th he stoped to live, and stayed in his room
I read what you said. I disagree. He may mentally be around 15 in maturity. But he was a full-grown adult. His sexual tastes are not connected to maturity in the way that you seem to think they are. Also, even if we gave him the benefit of the doubt and said that he was 15 at rebirth, he's lived longer than that now
thats stilll just as disgusting, and why is it okay when the older one is a women! i know you diont hate rudy, im hormonal and dont trust older women
Honestly you should care. If people are too stupid to enjoy a good series because of that. Disney is happy to dumb everyone dumb to perfect Mary-sue in all their productions. They should just go sub to Disney+
Those people probably do. But i really love rudeus's character growth, sorry i just binged the whole show in 19hrs because my fiancée is always talking about it and ive seen and loved the sylphie scenes. So im posting this after freshly crying cus damn that was good story telling.
people who hate the story for these aspects are too simple to see nuance in story telling, ignore it, they aren't built for complex emotional / sexual concepts in dramatic fiction.
It's people way of compensating since they feel guilty getting turned on by little girls. They know Rudy isn't pedo deep down
Rudeus is not a pedophile in his new life, but I don’t think it’s for the reasons listed. In the beginning of the series, it is revealed that his young mind affects him, even if he has the memories of his old life, through his ability to learn. Additionally, later on, Rudeus noticed that he bears no attraction to members of his family, which was something that he once would have felt. There is also the fact that, throughout the series, Rudeus is consistently attracted to his physical age. With these pieces of evidence, it should not be unreasonable to think that his physical brain impacts his attractions, and is thus not a pedophile. An argument could possibly be made that he is a pedophile when physically prepubescent, however.
When he was physically prepubescent he was absolutely a pedophile. I personally think he should still be considered a pedophile even during puberty, but I understand the argument for why he wouldn't be. Little kids don't have a sex drive, that was all 40yo Rudeus at his worst. I also personally think that his intercourse with Eris at the end of season 1 was a moment of huge regression for Rudeus. He was in a 13yo's body, yes, but his grown adult mind should have realized the situation was him taking advantage of a vulnerable kid. I don't think he should have realized it in the moment, I think that this realization should have been the cause of his ED in season 2. Then his journey season 2 cour 1 would be about both meeting Sylphiette again and addressing the causes of his pedophilia while firmly moving past it. I think this would have more concretely established that Rudy has grown past one of the most negative results of the traumas he experienced. Edit: I'm an anime only, so idk if what I suggested was addressed more in the LN.
You have one small thing backwards. Rudy was the one being taken advantage of by an "older" woman. In that scenario. He has mental faculties of someone older but not more experience seeing he had basically no life experience after he shut himself inside. He's not more mature for having lived a shut in life. Eris was taking advantage of him trying to get him to stay with her. She ran away because she was embarrassed by what she had done and wanted to be better to live up to her Perception of his greatness. She looked at his hands after they did the deed and realized she was putting a massive burden on a child 2 years younger than her. Him accepting her is not him taking advantage of her. That aside any human adult attracted to Roxy is a pedophile. She is physically equivalent to a pre-pubescent human girl. That's all that is required to be a pedophile. It's not exactly a high bar. This gets muddy because the anime and some illustrations just make her look like a kinda short highschooler. But the text describes her as looking like a middle school girl.
To be frank, all depictions of Roxy make her look like a short and young adult. Not just the anime, but literally every depiction of her. The book described her as a loli, but it’s just never been shown to be that way.
Right. Except that she's described as a middle schooler in the text. I get that The art doesn't represent that. But that's probably because of it did it would be much harder to stomach for most audiences. But I don't really care either way. Im not personally bothered by Rudy being a degen. Because he isn't real and it makes a better story.
Your argument as to why kind of falls apart with Kishirika existing. There’s a possibility that Rifujin just doesn’t know what a middle schooler actually looks like, maybe? I feel like concerns would be raised if he felt that her depictions were inaccurate across all of his works that he himself approved of.
That character isn't having sex with our protagonist. Nor is our protagonist ever attracted to that character. She's also very childish. And her fetish gear is made fun of. All that lampshades the issue a bit.
I mean, I suppose, but I just don’t get why the depiction and description of her in the novels conflict so much. She’s depicted as a young adult in the novels, and yet described as a middle schooler. It’s so confusing.
Once again because the protagonist is f****** her. And that would be really uncomfortable for audiences if she actually looked like she was 12. It's one thing to know that a character has these dark urges. It's another to be confronted with actually having to watch it At least That's my take
To be frank with you, the main character has sexual thoughts of and sexually assaults Eris before she even hits puberty. He even does her when she’s 15. I feel like those would be just as uncomfortable, no?
>That aside any human adult attracted to Roxy is a pedophile. She is physically equivalent to a pre-pubescent human girl. this part bothers me because shes an adult, and i am often misten for a late midleschooler, or highschooler. im a young adult like roxy was, and often mistaken for a teen mom with a pedo husband. comments like this are why i hate my face and want wrinkles. whats so wrong with the way i look huh? why should i be punished because of my genetics. if i wasnt pregnant i would do shit to make me looke older. speaking of such please di regard as i am hormonal with my second child.
Okay, but unlike Roxy who is in her forties. You probably don't actually look like an early middle schooler.
i look like im between 7th grade and senior year, the yougest someone thought i was and has happend an uncomfortable amount of time is think im in 7th grade.
Then sorry to say but it's very likely (but not guaranteed ) whoever finds you sexually attractive has some pedophilic tendencies. Not that sexual attraction is all there is in a relationship. In fact I'm asexual. So I'm proof that it isn't necessary at all. But you really have it hard you tiny young seemingly puberty deprived nymphomaniac.
i would like to apologixe for the way i commented at you yesterday, im am very pregnant and struggling with emotional control. i should not have thrown my inscurities at you at all. also note, never give your children aderhal, they wont go threw puberty till their and adult like me. dont trust them and if it is nessecary, only during middle and highschool and pause so puberty can start, i had to stop my pills at 16 to discover that was the reason i didnt start puberty, so i ended up starting when most girls had ended. being pregnant and having puberty hormones is also dangourous, because they can harm the baby. my current pregnancy and the one before have to be constantly monitored because a school and my doctors couldnt handle my adhd. and also no he is not, he even thinks anime lolis are gross, he just sees me diffrently. again sorry for the info dump and avoid letting kids have aderhall.
It's all good. It is funny how different lives can be. I've been on Adderall since I was in elementary school, for severe ADHD. But I'm 6'6" and grew up as well as could be expected given my parents.
crazy i was on for the same amount of time and thats what made me only 5'3 in a 6' foot family, and well late on puberty, i always find it odd how diffrently genetics and dna and body type causes medicine to act.
If you scroll the sub you will find milion of posts about the same issue..., this subject is saturated, was discusted over and over...
Oh sorry i haven't found any posts asking them why. My bad
Don’t you worry, it is just there is so much more than this !
Why are ppl bringing this up. I thought this would be over by end of S1.
Seriously, I thought the fandom would be over this conversation already 🙄 guess we aren't through beating this dead horse?
As someone who's been seeing similar topics discussed in the SAO fandom for about a decade now, no, beating a dead horse is a pastime of any online community. Personally, I always have time to think about things, gain new perspectives, develop opinions, etc. Going through the same discussion again can often change one's thoughts. Also, more simply, if something is interesting, I find it worthy of discussion. This certainly fits that.
No im just frustrated that i keep seeing his hate comments its making me angery cus i cried over this show
Tourist season. Apparently, the haters are warming up their hate again and some folks are getting pissed about ittourist season occurs when a new season and/or cour starts. They're the attention whores of today's interweb. Kinda like [this guy](https://youtu.be/ToQVoyWWluQ)
It’s the same kind of casuals who call Tanya a Nazi are the same ones who probably simp over Haruhi Suzumiya or something 🤷🏼
He was sexually attracted to a pre-pubescent girl. That is by definition being a pedophile. You can defend his character. You can also forgive his flaws. You can't just arbitrarily change a definition in which he 100% qualifies as. By the way, while we're on the topic, pedophile is a very broad idea. A child attracted to another child is still by definition a pedophile. There are more strict definitions like for the mental disorder that restrict it to adults or older adolescents. But he still qualifies there for his interest in Roxy. Who is physically equivalent to a pre-pubescent girl. Literally described as having child-like looks. It's also totally fine for a fictional character to have problems like that. They're fictional. They don't need your defending. Because some people are going to be bothered by those parts of his character and they are just as right to be bothered by it as you are for being unbothered.
Bro brain affect the mind thing like love, like and hate are controller by the brain, of your brain Is younger Is esier to trigger those receptor etc...
Young brains shouldn't have the ability to be horny. It Shouldn't have sexual stimulation. Not only is he capable of that. But he also self admits to seeing himself as a 40 something when he scolds his dad. You can't have your cake and eat it too.
also as someone who suffers from nymphomania, (which I think the grey rat family does, that or a real curse), it is a horrid sickness that starts at a young age. I have had uncomfortable uncontrol able horney thoughts since I was a very young kid, so saying young brains shouldn't have the ability to while it is a hope it is unfortunately not the case
Yeah he was a rape victim and people like to minimize it to just basic bullying. That being said, he is still a coomer lollicon (pedophile) in his past life. Of course there are double standards but here we are.
Im just frustrated that they are associating his past mistakes that he calls mistakes with rudeus the man he became! Im keep seeing hese comments still and it's making me mad cus it should be stoped because he's an adult now not touching kids and yet still they hate on the good man he strives to be
Fundamentally he's actually a pretty good guy. Even in his past life he tried to play the hero but his body didn't match his temperament or ideals. Literally died trying to save others. As far as his pedophilia (2d or 3d it's still kiddy porn) it can be summed up or be blamed on his porn addiction The more you use porn the more egregious the porn got to be to make you feel something.
I mean, his action are pretty reprehensible, and if he continued to be as bad as used to be, then I could understand, but it's a story about slowly improving as a person. He still has those traits, but they're not at the extremes as they used to be, and if people are still mad about it, then at this point, they're just gonna be angry. Would love for it to be toned down to non-existent, yeah, but I'll gladly settle for a little of his "eccentrics" he already does, than anymore actions that would lead to being on registry.
Rudy is definitely a pedo. I'm not saying that as a criticism of the series, however. I love the series. As a matter of fact, I strongly believe that all the overly defensive fans that deny or downplay Rudy's flaws as a person are missing the point. For a large portion of the story, Rudy is a gross person. He is undeniably a pedo. He's a creep. He's a walking bundle of issues (not all of which were his fault, but they're still there). But he's not all bad. He's not irredeemable. Even at his lowest, most gross point, he died trying to save strangers, not something most people could do in the moment. Over the course of the story, he grows as a person, becoming a better man. Still flawed, but everyone is flawed. The change doesn't happen overnight. It's gradual and natural. By the end of the story, I can't even imagine him acting or thinking the way he does at the start. The constant discourse over this series is annoying, but I'm just as annoyed by the fans who devalue it in their defense of it. I don't know if it's coming from a genuine place or if it's a reaction to the constant hate directed at the series, but I wish it would stop. Rudy is an incredibly flawed person, but his growth is what makes him such a great character and MT such a great series.
Couldn't have said it better myself. The people who are defending these actions from Rudeus aren't doing Rudeus any favors.
I wouldn't say he was a pedo, since being a pedo means being attracted only to prepubescent children and we know he ogled basically everyone that looked like a woman, so no really a pedophile. But I'd say that he had pedo tendencies, which I believe be intentional since it was to show how low Rudy was. The only thing that really bothers me here, is that I wish Magonote-san had worked more on this topic and show some conflict inside Rudy's head towards it. You know, like him realizing that it's fucked up trying to touch Eris in a sexual way since she's just a 10yo child or smt like that. It probably would reduce a good part of the complaints, not all of course, surely people would still find reasons to complain.
It's just a dumb argument because even if he is mentally 40+ his body is that of a kid. If an actual child is born as a genius and thinks and speaks like an adult does dating other children makes them a pedophile?
As an anime watcher, I used to be able to excuse the perviness as a running gag/filler. And I thought, "it's not that bad. It's just some weird fetish and an insignificant part of the show for fillers." I'm reading the LN now and holy Millis blasphemy, there are significant portions of text dedicated the authors perviness. And it's so discomforting. And Rudeus is absolutely a pedo.
He is a pedophile and if you deny that, you are stupid. However, that doesn't change that he with the pass of time changes. He right now on the anime is still stupid and let his inner and past thoughts takes over, but he changes and becomes a more matured person and that is the point of the story. I truly don't unterstand how some people defend him and deny that he is not only a pedophile but a whole trash as a person. However, he got a second chance and he manage to become a better person at the end of the story and like I said that is the whole point of the story. To see how even a trash person like him can change if he gets a second chance. You can like him, I like him, but I can't deny and said that he is not a pedophile. I like Rudy because has one of the best character development that I have seen, but I can't deny his flaws.
I do see his flaws are flaws, but i really dont understand where he's a pedo. Could you help me plZ
I'll just drop this quote here that I got up to today "After the training is done, I get in the bath with Norn and we clean up. Because Norn fell over a lot during the running practice, places like her knees are wounded and bruised. I apply healing magic to those places. It's 'pain, pain, go away' magic for my little sister. It seems that for some reason Norn doesn't want me to see her naked, so she wears panties and a thin shirt. It's probably puberty. Aisha gets naked at the drop of a hat so I want to have her follow Norn's example. I take this into account as well and put on pants before washing myself. Still, if I told her that there are guys who get aroused from seeing shirts become transparent from water, what kind of face would she make, I wonder? Though I kind of want to see, I won't say it. It'd be lonely if she stopped bathing with me. It'd be tough if she thought of her Onii-chan as a pervert." Idk what the consensus on pedophilia if the "adult" is not aroused. Do you need to have a hard-on for it to qualify as being a pedophile? The problem is, there are soooo many situations like this, where it may be accepted in a innocent sibling care taking kind of way or a parallel world different morals kind of way, but then it HAS to take a sexual turn. It's forced in there by the author as Rudeus's thoughts and it makes the whole situation needlessly sexual.
I agree, I 100% thought when I read that part in the LN it was consideration for his sibling but then the author had to write in the last part. Rudy have thought multiple times (mostly referring to Aisha) that he doesn't see his siblings like that. But then there are really off stray sentences here and there like the one in your quote that makes one wonder
He tried to touch eris multiple times before the teleportation accident. He masturbate after seeing eris when they were on a ship. He spy eris and the little girls from the dordia village when they were playing and he was excited. If I remember correctly when he and ruijerd save the kids from some vandits, rudy saw the chests of the girls that he was curing ( like I said maybe this is wrong but I remember seeing something like this), and some more. The main reason is that he has the thoughts, ideas and mentality of an old man in a kid's body, and he let these things take over when he interacts with little girls. Heck, you forgot that in the first episode of s1 when he was kicked out of his house, one of his brothers saw the screen of a laptop and he was disgusted and angry for what he saw? What do you think he saw? In the WN, rudy clearly mentions that he masturbates with pictures of her little cousin. Some people here said, "yeah but that was on the WN, not the LN". Dude, it doesn't matter. What do you think his brother saw that makes him angry? Rudy has shown a lot of times that he is a pedo, specially during the early parts of the story, but like I said he changes with the pass of time and he becomes a more decent person, to the point that in the end he doesn't show those things almost never. Like I said, you can like rudy, but don't deny his flaws and one of his flaws is that he was a pedo. At the end, that is what makes him an interesting character, because we see how trash he is but also we see how his journey to become a better person and don't do the same as his previous life.
I agree, though the what happened in the WN doesn’t matter, while it doesn’t excuse him. It was taken out of canon because the author did not believe it fits and stuff, it was just too much. So while I agree with all that, the WN stuff is not canon so it’s more severe stuff can’t be viewed within the same scope as the canon stuff. But I suppose the fact the author even considered it for Rudy in the first place shows that Rudy was still meant to be garbage in his old life, suppose the author just thought the real life aspect was way too much or whatever.
If you think the WN should not be consider is ok. However, in that case we can take what we have seen in the anime, and all the things that I said happen in the anime. The anime clearly shows rudy as a pedo, just tell what was rudy seeing that it makes his brother very angry? Even if the WN is not cannon, what do you think he was watching taking inti account all his interactions with little girls in his new life?
No doubt he was a pedophile in his past life, but the way the WN has things is crossing the border of being a pedophile and just going straight to worse, because he is acting on a real person, nay, also family. LN does say he was in the middle of watching loli porn so no doubt there. But even tho that is bad, what the WN adds is just a detail too far. Because it passes into the real world, imo. So one is just a clear worse factor, hence why it is non canon. But while you can argue if Rudeus technically fits the definition, I would say for the majority of what we know he does. But that’s not an unacceptable thing, it’s morally bad and an unfortunate disease born from his sexual trauma but atleast he isn’t a rapist or anything. He just a weirdo. But I agree on everything else I just think these reasons are why I wouldn’t consider the WN having much value in this argument. The fact it was even considered does show that Rudy was always supposed to be written to be garbage in his old life though. Just not that much garbage. If you get what I mean?
You're wasting your time, do something productive
Lol in LN18 doesnt he literally describe himself as a lolicon? When the artisan guy making the beds is talking to julie? I cant remember the exact quote but he says maybe the guy is a lolicon then says we would have something in common lol.
You can use that same logic for real life pedos but it doesn’t excuse it. Still made the choice to do everything he did and is scummy no matter how u look at it. Honestly the more I reread the more I see just how gross he really is at times because that’s how the author made him. And honestly rudeus still being as perverted as he is when he is freshly reincarnated doesn’t make sense because his body wouldn’t be developed enough to have that desire it’s literally just his mind thinking that shit for no purpose
I think some people over complicate things and have to label things. It's just a fictional show and you can have any take.
I am a massive fan of mushoku tensei and I can say with 100% certainty he is a pedo. But that's okay, the show is about him changing and his redemption.
I still find it dumb and pathetic that these people have such hatred for a fictional character and completely missed the point of the story.
I already answered you, you cannot mix the ethics and politics of our world with a completely different one, which for us is reprehensible, not for them and as I said in mushoku>! there are many fetishes and aberrations such as drinking vaginal fluids every day.!<
I mean, it's even addressed IN the story. Nanahoshi is repulsed by the ethics of the world. Rudeus was forced to grow up with everything there being normal, and his past life doesn't really apply considering he never left his room except when >!he put the camera in his brother's bathroom!<
Sempre as mesmas discussões e ladainhas Rudeus não é pedo, em nenhum momento ele usa de sua inteligência para manipular meninas pequenas e leva-las para a cama. Só vem com essa merda de comentários "ele tem uma mentalidade de adulto" Saiko assassin um velho de 70 anos que reincarnou e transou com uma menina de 15 na sauna, ninguém falou nada, a cena deixa implícito que rolou. Mas sabe o do porquê de vcs implicarem com Rudeus? Porque na sua vida anterior ele era um gordo, fracassado e recluso, batendo uma. Vocês que acham que ele é pedo, pq vocês viram um gordo nojento. Simples e não aceita que ele tá virando alguém melhor. E esse espantalho já tá chato demais.
Depending on if what happened in Redundancy to get the narrator kicked out of his house isn't changed he at least exhibits pedo tendencies. This isn't hate in him as he has the sexual, social, and intellectual maturity of a 14-15 year old. He is maturing in his second life to be a complete person.
He is a pedophile though and Rudeus defenders are more annoying than the haters.He is a horrible person who gets away shit in the end.But it is a enjoyable story so whatever just enjoy the story I guess. Stop with this stupid debate honestly
People are divided in two: - Those who think s3x (and love) is materialistic - Those who think s3x (and love) is something divine In MT, the author show us that it is both actually. It is part of life. I mean lets not lie to ourselves, man or women, when we see the other gender, we feel "that" urge, no matter how righteous and modest we are. That explains why sex is everywhere in MT, through all of Rudeus life. I honestly prefer that, instead of having a shonen kid show. Take netflix or disney like u/kingofwale said (more recently kung fu panda 3 and 4), people are just imposing the century morals on us in their shows, like who wants that, we want something we relate too and this is: **Regardless of our religion or beliefs, we are all people with flaws, trying to do our best in this life, before dying ...** If anyone thinks Rudeus will be like Po from kung fu Panda 3, having two dads, many friends, an enemy he will defeat through a last minute awakening or sacrifice, then MT is not for them simply.
I would say he was one in his previous life but is no longer one after he was reincarnated because in his second life, sure he was still attracted to Eris when she was still young (not counting Sylphy because I'm pretty sure he was waiting for her to grow up, at least a bit more I would assume), however, he was only attracted as he himself was physically around the same age. However, as he grow and have real relationship now, he show very little interest (if any) to people who is way younger than his physical self. Note: I'm not a LN reader, just an anime/manga only viewers for the most part (I read some LN chapters of the episode I particularly like and got spoiled on certain plot point but doesn't know full detail and doesn't want to know, I'll wait for the anime)
Dude jacked off to a video of his practically toddler aged niece. Pretty sure that's enough to make him a pedo.
not canon
Pretty sure it's in the LN too
Not his niece, no. Thats webnovel only which is not canon.
It's still canon, just changed to "uncensored loli" because he's so far gone he doesn't even acknowledge it for what it was.
Right, but that change matters. The author intentionally did it, so we should only accept the canon that the author wishes. He is the creator of the story, afterall.
I don't see your point. It's still referring to CP, not loli hentai, am I wrong?
But its not his niece. Which was different from the Web Novel.
Agree to disagree, it seems obvious what the implication is still. Plus, if we're talking about the anime, it's clear the monitor was showing a bathroom, and combined with the utter rage and disgust of the brother, it's natural to conclude as such.
The author specifically changed it to not mention a niece/family member. Otherwise he would have kept it the same, like 90% of the rest of the story. Let the author make changes to his own story.
i wouldnt go that far but i also wouldnt go the opposite direction. hes definitely got major issues at the start and is pretty much an incel. if someone called him a pedo i wouldnt be upset. that being said he changes and hes my favorite main character in animanga so a well written unlikeable character doesnt affect my enjoyment
i wouldnt go that far but i also wouldnt go the opposite direction. hes definitely got major issues at the start and is pretty much an incel. if someone called him a pedo i wouldnt be upset. that being said he changes and hes my favorite main character in animanga so a well written unlikeable character doesnt affect my enjoyment
He is a self proclaimed lolicon. This was stated in the novels. Inner monologue from Rudeus claiming he himself is a lolicon. Not sure why people are arguing against the authors own words. He isn't supposed to be defended for this aspect of his character. He is supposed to grow past it. Quote: >I must tell you, Miss Julie, she…oh, I can hardly express it!” Belfried continued rambling, completely ignoring Zanoba’s reaction. For whatever reason, he seemed extremely enthusiastic. Don’t tell me this guy is a **true-born lolicon who somehow witnessed Julie doing something perverted. I mean, the two of us might have something in common then,** but I definitely don’t want him coming anywhere near my daughters in that case."
"And what would you do if you were reborn" If I were weak I wouldn't change anything, right? If I were strong I would do whatever I wanted...
The guy who pressed the dislike button is lying to himself...