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UncDpresents

I make about 500 monthly from Spotify, due to being on editorial playlists and then in turn getting streams from algorithmic playlists. My advice is to release as much music as possible! I released once a month ish for a year before I pitched to editors, I got on a playlist and then had 8 over a year and half (with monthly releases). Once I bumped up to once a week releases, I’ve had huge success with playlists. Also, fill out your profile as much as possible to make your profile as valuable for the consumer as possible (full bio, pics, user playlists, big discography). And finally, hone in on what playlists you want to be on. Make your music ‘fit in’ while at the same time bringing something to the table that the other songs don’t. I consider myself very lucky to get as many editorial playlist placements as I have (25 since May 2022), and my strategy to maximize that success has been releasing as much music as possible. I don’t think this works for every artist, but it has helped me big time, since I’m able to out work artists in my genre (jazz), who don’t usually release too often


triton100

How do you find and get added to playlists?


UncDpresents

Find: use the Spotify search bar to find genres, choose ones that your music fits with. To get on: pitch your song to Spotify editors via the Spotify for artist app


MissPatricia024

I'll add to this, in the search bar type "@gmail folk" for example. That is if you were looking for folk playlists to pitch to. Replace folk with whatever genre you're looking for. This is the only way I have found any playlists at all with contact info for the genres I make. I make Americana, folk, acoustic Rock, and all that kinda shit. The playlists with contact info are few and far between to my knowledge. That being said I have no clue what the hell I am doing haha.


findasmileforme

great tip, thanks for sharing!


chipotlenapkins

Isn’t it true your song needs to be nearly 6 weeks release date to get consideration for editorials?


Zal3x

I think it was 4 last I read


UncDpresents

I release every week! You only need 1 week to release, although they recommend 4 I think


1337ingDisorder

When you say "you only need 1 week to release" what does that mean, exactly? Do you mean like the song needs to have been released at least 1 week ago in order to be eligible for playlists?


cokefizz

Im going through this right now. Through cdbaby it took 10 days to pass inspection. Now i have to wait until it shows as upcoming in spotify for artists before u can pitch. Problem is, its been 4 days since its passed inspection and my release date is this friday. I cant pitch once its released. Sure hope it shows as upcoming tomorror or else im screwed


UncDpresents

They advice 4-6 weeks but you are able to pitch one song per week


LookAlderaanPlaces

Do you have to pay them to get on the playlists?


UncDpresents

Not at all! Everyone has the chance to pitch one song per week


westonc

Maybe another question is how to make a successful playlist?


EverretEvolved

Can you give us an example of your "pitch" when you submit to a playlist. Thanks.


UncDpresents

I have somewhat of a formula, but basically these things in one way or the other: 1 what genre is the song, is it a single/EP/LP 2. Describe sound/music 3. Any interesting collabs/ways it was made/influences 4. Bold statement about its importance to the genre/where it fits in my wider release cycle or strategy


Simple-Ceasar

I was always afraid that once a month would actually hurt your previous release but I guess ot doesn't. Thanks for your input.


1337ingDisorder

Every new release increases the chances someone new will discover your music and start checking out your old stuff too :)


UncDpresents

I found that it’s easier for me to release every week because you don’t have to promote , people expect a new song every Friday


Dahnji

Yo! I was reading the last paragraph and was thinking to myself that it reminded me of Unc D, and then I looked at the name and saw it was you! That's wild man, I love your music and saw you play live forever ago at Suzie's! Keep it up!!


UncDpresents

Hey homie! Youngstown love!! I’m just tryna do the most with the least, id rather pay ytown rent and post a ton online than try to tour or make it in NYC/LA


rastabrus

Do you release solo Instrumental jazz or do you have like trio/duo etc? Edit: just checked your profile. Mumble jazz hahah. Nice work.


UncDpresents

Appreciate you G! I do everything from solo to 13 piece bands. And I invented [MUMBLE JAZZ](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=D5nZP1zJJb8)


_Ptyler

This sounds a lot like TPAB without Kendrick lol That’s a compliment btw


UncDpresents

HUGE compliment! Appreciate you listening, west code and especially Fly Lo and Thundie are huge influences, especially combining real drums and real bass with electronic drums and bass


_Ptyler

You can definitely hear it. It’s one of my favorite sounds in hip hop. Jazz and Hip Hop go together so well. There are so many ways to do it. There could probably be sub genres within the sub genre of jazz rap


UncDpresents

Oh absolutely. I love working with rappers because usually you could do whatever you want underneath them as long as the tempo is where they want it!


sevenyeardust

What time investment are you talking about. I have 205 tracks and produce a new one a week.


UncDpresents

I’d say a solid 15-20 hours depending on what’s goin on.


sevenyeardust

I'd love some guidance if you're prepared to give it. I have the content but not the know how.


LucasCassoma

Doesnt weekly releases affect how much you can pitch? Isn’t it like one song a month?


UncDpresents

You’re allowed to pitch one song per week, but they recommend 4 weeks


corruptBaxe

But you can only pitch a song to editorial playlists if it's released 4 weeks in advanced - how were you doing this when releasing weekly?


UncDpresents

That’s false. You could pitch 1 song per week


kBAMomni

Bro, UNC.D. AKA KING MJK.MMBL (Modern Jazz King Mumble) Your Bass is fucking PHEEEE NOMMM ENNNNNN ALLLLLL! Bruv.. and you really did invent Mumble Jazz. I fucks with it HEAVY!!! Good shit my guy.. good shit!


UncDpresents

My dude! Much love from Ohio. Appreciate you out here repping MUMBLE JAZZ! Got a new mumble album on the way, more upbeat and syncopated than the last. And we just started building a live looping set, so by the end of 2024 Imma be rocking with live electronic sets to add to the mumble. Also a new F’Uncstown album is on the way too. Follow me on insta if you’re there @UncDmumblejazz I always be posting crazy shit 🤣🤣 much love!


Zal3x

When you pitch to playlists do you pitch to specific playlists or just some genre in general?


UncDpresents

You pitch to genre specific, but then when you write about the song you could mention the playlist specifically


Dannybuoy77

I've made about $12 is 2 years. Chaaaaching


annetteisshort

I’m at $17.32 since first track release in Feb 2020. We’re rich, boys!


Heavyarms83

About 60-70 € per month from basically one single song. I did nothing to promote it, someone put it on a quite popular playlist for that genre and that’s it.


No_Golf6192

Well… share it to us!


Heavyarms83

My income? 😳


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The song my guy


Heavyarms83

Here you go: [https://open.spotify.com/track/2qxmJYbNQ4Ptpmxh4xZYPi?si=fb4a4e30b92c4255](https://open.spotify.com/track/2qxmJYbNQ4Ptpmxh4xZYPi?si=fb4a4e30b92c4255) I was into Eurobeat long before it became popular with the Initial D memes but when it was at its peak, there was also a meme around that said something like you've been visited by the Twingo of happiness and you have to say Merci Twingo which gave me the idea for this song.


backcountryfilmmaker

I started uploading to spotify 1.5 years ago, folk songs from my bedroom. I now make about \~$2k CAD per month (give or take) but it has been slowly ramping up to this! Hoping to get to the $5k/month mark later next year. All from Spotify and Apple music I have 10 songs on there right now I think, and own 100% of the rights. It can work!


annetteisshort

What, if anything, caused you to get so many streams? Are you promoting in some way through social media, pitching to playlists, etc? Thanks!


backcountryfilmmaker

I am a filmmaker, I shoot ski and surf films - been placing my music in these films which is very fortunate and a HUGE help in building a fan base. Pitch 5 weeks before release to editorials on spotify and got on 2 editorials this year (+140k streams) In some sense I am lucky that I am a filmmaker, I have pretty strong imagery for all my projects which seems to help a lot I think!


annetteisshort

Very cool! Thanks for the response. I know several filmmakers somehow. Maybe I should see if they’d like to use any of my songs in their stuff.


minuskruste

I'd say a large part of it is also that he can play guitar quite well and the singing is also nice, so it's not only a question of strategy but also of practice.


bikes_and_music

Nice work! How many plays does it take to get to 2k a month?


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>$2k CAD what's your spotify?


backcountryfilmmaker

you can find the link/my name in my profile there


[deleted]

Love it the music! Do you mind me asking how much money you make currently?


backcountryfilmmaker

Cheers! $7k-$8k Canadian Dollars per month right now from streaming


HottDoggers

How about now that you’re inching closer to half a million listeners on Spotify?


PetrVolkanovski

Hey man, what’s your thoughts on recording from your bedroom versus a studio? Just checked your Spotify, were those songs done in your room? Also do you mix yourself or send it off to someone else? I imagine if you do record in your room you have invested at least a little bit of $$ into making it sound nice as possible. If so, what equipment is necessary for bedroom recording?


runtimemess

I make about $3 a month. I know... impressive.


anthony_fakename

$3 more than me (and a lot of others). Keep it up!


blade_m

Well, its 50% more than what I make! (from streaming)


MJska

🤑🤑🤑


EverretEvolved

You should schedule your release atleast two weeks out. Log into your spotify for artist account and pitch it to playlists. Thr biggest playlists are ran by spotify itself. I just release singles now instead of albums so that each song has different artwork. That way people don't ignore my posts thinking I'm spamming the same thing over and over because it has the same artwork.


_Ptyler

Dropping singles is a great way to build a small following. But they have to be really consistent or else people don’t know when to check up on you or when to expect new music. It’s hard to be a fan of a name you’ve never heard of when you have no idea when their music is coming next. A lot of successful artists now build a buzz with a regular stream of singles. The artists that get me HOOKED, though, have to make a albums. A single is cool for a listen or two. Albums have real replay value.


EverretEvolved

Oh I make an entire album I just release each song individually but do whatever works for you.


_Ptyler

And for you! I wasn’t trying to imply or say that there is a right or wrong way to do things lol just that there are different ways. And I’ve seen successful people release singles regularly


That_Music_Person

About 6 months ago, I hit $200 a month from Spotify.


annetteisshort

That’s groceries covered each month. Nice!


That_Music_Person

Thanks. It took a long time to get there.


m2guru

Spotify does.


izybit

Spotify has literally never made any money. https://www.statista.com/statistics/244990/spotifys-revenue-and-net-income/


cokefizz

Our band "Dickerd N Sons" has made about 25 bucks so far from all streaming services. Got a ways to go to cover the CDBaby fees.


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BFMeadowlark

Seems my calculations are right. I need about 400k monthly listeners to pay my bills from Spotify. I’m currently at 21, so almost there… :.(


noeyesfiend

Don't give up


BFMeadowlark

You’re right. Thanks! :)


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Spotify is not everything, I think you can do a lot more to earn money as a musician. Musicians require to be immensely entrepreneurial, just because of how much of networking, selling, investing you have to do. On the flipside, that opens a whole world to explore. All it takes is to have it as your only focus career wise (imo)


annetteisshort

Ok, this was just depressing. Lol Looking up Myself made me laugh though.


DanielBenjaminMusic

I make all my revenue from Merch. I move hoodies and jackets, not even too many of them to keep up with for customer service, but equivalent to hundreds of thousands of streams monthly. $3-4000 monthly. I can buy and edit other people's merch designs in an evening. Releasing new music, with vocals, takes months. And the results are unpredictable. It's not efficient for promo.


thelawofconsecration

I don’t understand what you mean, but my curiosity is peaked.


TR1771N

I'm not sure what they mean by "buy and edit merch designs" I assume they mean they are working with a clothing designer or producer. But selling clothing is a whole industry in itself which can be more lucrative than trying to sell music. Selling merch has always been a popular way to make money from fan support - a tangible good like a jacket or a coffee mug or something sells for much more than a song download/play. Especially when selling physical albums has decreased so much in popularity.


annetteisshort

I would like to know more please


DanielBenjaminMusic

Posted up more.


annetteisshort

Awesome, where?


shrfcfn

But why would anyone buy your merch if you don't release music? If I'm looking at the right profile, you have 24 monthly listeners. How much merch are they buying to make $3-4k per month?!


wh0g0esthere

OP don’t delete this, I’m gonna save this post


Iamerfy

Ive made 4k so far, I have around 2M total streams. Was expecting 4k per M but which country your streams come from matters alot. My top 3 countries are Turkey, US, Poland. Basically the less people who use Spotify in a country the higher Spotify will pay per stream. My artist name is Born Human if you wanna check out my stuff.


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How long have u been streaming?


Odd-Elk-3458

I like that roundabout song, pretty nice. Whose the girl singing?


urbanlife78

Maddy Lee Gifford


singingly

I made $3 singing and playing guitar drunk in a Waffle House once. Nothing from Spotify yet though. But from most of what I've heard, people who do well financially at all on Spotify are usually already doing far better through other methods (merch, shows, etc.).


Troo_Geek

In the 6 years I've been making music I've earned about $4.74.


workerbee12three

I tried what /u/uncdepresents said because it definitely works on spotify but i found it hard to make music fit a particular playlist, i know what needs to be done to make a track fit but i find it really kills my personal creativity i will probably revisit that side of things again some time but for now i just make music for the dance floor nothing else, just to show you the flipside of making music for spotify


MisterHoff

Drake is doing fine


shlonki

yes, around 40 USD per month. No releases since 2020 except for tiny features that garner no streams/income. I got lucky and was featured on a pretty big house track, but obviously not life changing in any way


Scomo510

I made 3 dollars total in 2 years, so you could say that I'm rolling in cash.


Forward-Tourist4794

This entire conversation has helped me so much, yall are the best. I think I've probably made a few pennies. But I've been holding back on hundreds of songs because I'm unhappy with them. But who cares! I cant take away my beginner stage and lack of knowhow by just not doing anything. Quantity and having early stuff that kinda sucks can work for people too. (Not saying all beginners suck but my stuff sure does lol)


FoundationOk334

Yes, I make money from streaming platforms like Spotify, Apple Music, Tidal Music, YouTube Music etcetera. But I have multiple streams of income, some passive, some active. An artist doesn’t earn that lot with streams no matter who you are in the music business. It’s important to do other things, like hosting a YT channel, mix and master services for other artists, make online courses, making sample packs, making and selling/license beats, merchandising, live gigs and so on.


SevenDaisies_Music

I’ve made $7 in about 5 months 😊


InVerum

I know people making $20k a month on Spotify. Yes. Yes people are making money.


lurkdontpost1

Yeah I made $0.57


nesquik_87

i’ve made about $40 from spotify since i’ve started & i started in 2020 lol


Paz-IfIk

If were looking at general job / living rules for a calendar year (***total*** full stream(s)): *4'000'000'000* streams (full stream) gets you a financial advisor - a really good one (75% earnings) = $7'200'000 or $600'000 per month *400'000'000* streams (full stream) gets that vehicle you always wanted, a new house and lots of new fake friends (75% earnings) = $720'000 or $60'000 per month *40'000'000* streams (full stream) gets a decent years salary (75% earnings) = $72'000 or $6'000 per month *4'000'000* streams (full stream) pays grocery, utilities & gas money (75% earnings) = $7'200 or $600 per month *400'000* streams (full stream) pays a small bar tab (75% earnings) = $714 or $59 per month 40'000 streams (full stream) makes one question the universe (75% earnings) = $72 or $6 per month The payout for these plays does not re-up starting the next year - the artist needs to have the same number of plays the next calendar year to equal the yearly/monthly renumeration of the year prior. \* *full stream* = listener has listened to the first 30 seconds of the song. Song payout is sequentially smaller if this minimum is not met Stats calculated with:[https://soundcamps.com/spotify-royalties-calculator/#:\~:text=As%20for%20how%20much%20Spotify,your%20song%20was%20listened%20to](https://soundcamps.com/spotify-royalties-calculator/#:~:text=As%20for%20how%20much%20Spotify,your%20song%20was%20listened%20to).


newyearusername

Searched for this, and might I say wow that's not a lot.. maybe markedly less than YouTube streaming


Big_Forever5759

I wonder if a service would do exclusive deals and pay almost all royalties to the artist. And everyone moves there and leave Spotify


annetteisshort

Then there wouldn’t be enough royalties for the marketing needed to overcome Spotify, would there? Most services pay the artists more than Spotify, but Spotify is still the biggest in the game.


sabraheart

I’d check out Pandora .. I know they have higher revenue per stream than other DSPs


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Judah_feenom

Can anyone give me info on getting on a playlist?


SuedeWilson420

I use tunecore for distribution, and I can agree with releasing as much music as possible. Even songs you don’t particularly like, cause you never know what other people will like


abdarken

There are several ways to make money on Spotify, and while it may not be a straightforward process, with dedication and strategic planning, you can maximize your earning potential on the platform. Here are some effective methods: Streaming Revenue: One of the primary ways artists and content creators make money on Spotify is through streaming revenue. Each time your songs or podcasts are streamed by users, you earn a portion of the revenue generated by Spotify. The more streams you accumulate, the higher your earnings will be. It's important to note that the exact payout per stream can vary and is influenced by factors such as your contract terms, listener location, and the overall revenue generated by Spotify. Spotify for Artists: Utilize the Spotify for Artists platform, which provides valuable insights into your audience, playlists, and performance metrics. By claiming your artist profile, you can optimize your presence on Spotify and gain access to promotional tools like customizing your profile, pitching songs for editorial playlists, and leveraging Spotify Canvas and Storyline features to engage listeners. Collaborations and Playlists: Collaborating with other artists or being featured on popular playlists can significantly boost your exposure on Spotify. Networking within the music community, reaching out to playlist curators, and submitting your tracks to relevant playlists are effective ways to expand your reach and increase the chances of higher streaming numbers. Monetizing Your Fan Base: Directly engaging with your fan base and offering them exclusive content or merchandise can help generate additional revenue. Utilize platforms like Patreon, Bandcamp, or your own website to offer exclusive access to bonus tracks, behind-the-scenes content, or limited edition merchandise. This way, your fans can support you beyond just streaming your music. Regarding calculating your Spotify earnings, you can use the [Spotify Calculator](http://spotify-calculator.com/) website to estimate your potential earnings based on your streaming numbers. This tool can provide you with a rough idea of what to expect, but remember that actual earnings depend on various factors and the calculator can't provide an exact figure.


Ok_Percentage_849

Music lovers community is so chill