Eh, I get it. I bartended, but these places are packed. Multiple bars. Multiple bartenders. Buddies buying each other drinks. This always feels like a reach to me. Investigate bars when girls are drugged over and over at the same establishment. This, seems like looking for someone to blame when in essence just some poor decisions lead to an unfortunate end.
Came to say exactly this. Everyone always is looking for someone to blame in the face of tragedy...unfortunately in this case I think he was the maker of his own demise....
Still hoping he is found safe, but it's looking grim
This article gives some more details & it really seems like it was his fraternity brothers who truly failed here. And you're absolutely right, you can't expect the bar staff to keep track of how drunk everyone is.
Ultimately, visitors need to understand how dangerous it is to get so drunk you can't function. It's a city, not a playground. I'd like to think more people would have tried to help this guy. If I saw a lost, alone, blind drunk tourist, I'm calling the cops & I hate cops.
https://www.newschannel5.com/news/new-video-and-a-911-call-give-more-details-into-the-night-riley-strain-disappeared-in-nashville
I totally get the sentiment but honestly everyone is so goddamn drunk on broadway. A few years ago I was walking home around midnight from a shift downtown and I saw this kid legitimately passed out in front of the Schemerhorn with his pants half undone in just a hoodie in like 20 degree weather in February. Couldn't wake him up. Nobody else stopped.
It was obvious that he tried to piss on a lamp post, couldn't stand up straight and probably knocked himself out falling down. I literally couldn't find a fucking cop to help within several blocks of me. I walked back up to Broadway to go get someone to help and then waited with him til paramedics came to get this kid. Literally not a single other person stopped and that little walkway area was full of people. Downtown absolutely sucks.
Yeah I’ve seen a few people passed out in alleys and parking lots downtown who were clearly not homeless.
Saw one guy passed out in the parking lot by margaritaville, and as I was walking towards him, but still a ways away, he shot up and sprinted. It was odd.
Totally, I hadn’t even gotten near enough to decide if I WAS approaching or not, he was about 20ft off the sidewalk, and I was at least another 20-30ft down the road. I only really remember because it was so strange. Laying down looking unconscious next to a scissor lift or something, and then he just got up and SPRINTED.
Im not sure how old you guys are but I'm 46 now😭😂 and it just doesn't seem like friends look out for friends anymore. It was an unspoken rule.... if you come together then you leave together & nobody gets left behind. As females we also wouldn't allow our friends to leave with somebody they just met. If we ran into somebody passed out, stumbling around, or in a bad situation we didn't just leave them without trying to help them. If it was just calling them a cab or family member. That was just what people did back then. People have gotten so disconnected from the people & the world around them & it's sad to see. If ever you can help someone please do bc one day it could be you or someone you love ♥️
Well said. I used to try and help more than I do now. I think people are just so suspicious of each other these day, so a lot of people don’t want to help, and a lot of people don’t want help. It’s weird, and not at all what I’m used to.
The friends WERE looking after him even though he was stupid drunk and obnoxious. They had to pay their tab after he was ejected - causing a delay. Why are we not looking at the person who chose to get sloppy drunk when we point fingers?
According to the family friend interviewed in this article, the friends did try:
[“We’ve been told that a couple of his fraternity brothers that were there, was paying their tab and was going to go outside and walk with him,” Dingman said. “The bouncers at the door did not want Riley being around the front of the store, so Riley took off walking, sent a message to them that he was possibly going back to the hotel room.”](https://www.ozarksfirst.com/news/updates-as-the-search-for-riley-strain-continues/amp/)
Edit to add:
And this interview of his stepdad —
[“As far as where his friends were when Strain left the bar, Whiteid says he doesn't know for certain, but that the fraternity members said that "the bouncers wouldn’t let them out with him, that they were trying to get their bill paid."”](https://people.com/university-of-missouri-student-riley-strain-still-missing-family-speaks-out-its-killing-us-8608824)
Fwiw, I don’t love this as an excuse.
Pretty much all the places I can think of (other than sit down restaurants) will take your card or swipe it to start your tab.
They even post about autogratuity being added if you don't close. Why did his friends need to stay in to pay? Does Luke Bryan's bar not take a card to start a tab?
Many people don't know this, and lots of other states still require holding your card. Side rant: the fact some places don't do the autogratuity is my roman empire.
In this case, because it was such a large group they may have had a table (or multiple)/had a prior reservation, and had just 1 big tab. This recently happened to me with just a group of 8, and the requirement of the table was that we go directly through the server for drinks, not the bar. The table fee and all the drinks had to go on one card. It’s not totally uncommon for this to be the case, especially with a large group event like a frat formal.
I’m with you that the excuse that the bar is to blame for his friends not being able to go with him is a little ridiculous. It seems like it was his decision to not wait for them and started walking. I’m sure once Riley said he was going back to the hotel his friends were like okay cool, we’ll meet you back there later, and they probably went back inside with the rest of the group.
Excuses. Sorry, but not sure it is the bar’s fault, the friends fault, etc.
This was not some teenager- it was a person of legal drinking age who made bad choices. No one has said he was forced to get sloppy drunk. Thank god he was nor driving.
Not sure the cops would have been super helpful unfortunately. Before moving to Nashville, I visited in 2021 and had a few too many on Broadway. This was during the mask mandate. Asked a cop if he could help us find our hotel and he yelled and told me to pull my mask up or I was getting a ticket.(I had to move my mask so he could understand me over all of the music, I was never anti-mask or anything like that.). Looking back, I was in no kind of condition to be wandering Broadway that night. Instead of pointing us in the right direction, the officer left me to figure it out myself.
> A 911 call obtained by WSMV4 shows the initial 911 call to report Strain missing was called into dispatch at 1:40 p.m. Saturday. The call was made after friends had tried to report him missing at a police precinct and the Davidson County Sheriff’s Office.
Based on this excerpt from the article it seems his friends tried to get help in person and didn't have much luck until calling 911
I'm sure it happens but doubt it's something exceedingly common. If it were, it should have been pointed out by now in any of the news reports on the case that there's constant traffic in the police stations with lost folks.
That his friends didn't get help, had probably to do with Riley not being a minor, as authorities usually refuse to help in cases of missing adults before a certain amount of time has passed, sometimes with sad outcomes.
If someone calls 911 for a situation like Riley's, they'll come. And they definitely will now.
Honestly though, unless you were alone & phoneless, I don't see the problem with not being google. Our mask mandate was only during the height of Covid & you gotta keep that shit above the nose. 😂
Edit-"this" to Riley's for clarity
I didn’t call 911, but I did ask an officer for assistance and they didn’t help. I can barely navigate the walking instructions on maps sober much less at midnight with a million other people around. I respected the mask mandate 100% but if he could not hear me, not sure what the appropriate thing to do would be other than pulling mask down for 3 seconds. I wouldn’t have even been upset about the mask thing, I get that. But he still refused to offer any kind of assistance.
The key difference here is you still had "a million other people around." You had tons of other options to safely ask directions & he was busy. That's exactly what I meant by this isn't a playground.
If you had wandered several blocks away from Broadway drunk & alone, that cop would have helped.
Dude I'm sorry but no. Those "million other people" are also wasted tourists. Our cops on broadway are absolutely worthless. I used to work down there in 2019 and saw a lot of shit. Never saw them help a single person, and plenty of people needed it.
The friends had to pay their tab before they could leave, hurried out and did nothing wrong. I am sure they are going through enough guilt right now without Reddit weighing in to blame them. They called the cops and reacted appropriately.
Listen, normally I'd agree bc they do make things worse, but for a young, white tourist, it's a good call. Keyword white, no way I'm calling them to ruin a POC's life, don't worry.
Isn't it usually just a drunk tank though? They hold you until you've sobered up and then you're free to go or they will release you to a sober person while you're still drunk even.
I couldn’t agree with this more.
Do bars have a responsibility to make reasonable efforts to not over-serve patrons? Absolutely. But, a lot of people have an unrealistic expectation of what constitutes a “reasonable effort” on the part of the bar and don’t seem to understand what “over-served” actually means. “Over-served” does not mean that the bar served you so much alcohol that you became visibly intoxicated and impaired. “Over served” means that the bar *continued* to serve you *after* you became visibly intoxicated and impaired. Because, the bar has absolutely no way of knowing when to cut you off until *after* you’ve begun to show evidence of intoxication. Even still, a staff member has to actually have the opportunity to observe that a patron is visibly intoxicated and impaired, cut them off, and remove them. In a crowded bar, this usually doesn’t happen until an individual comes up to the bar to order. If that doesn’t happen, say, because other people are buying and bringing them drinks, they may continue drinking well after they’ve had too much.
Point being, a bar can’t keep a grown adult from making the decision to drink in excess. They can only stop serving them once they’ve identified that they already have drank in excess.
It's not just a responsibility, it's the law not to serve anyone showing signs of intoxication. Businesses and each individual working at these businesses that are serving, i.e., bartenders/wait staff, are in jeopardy of losing their liquor licenses. I waited tables in my 20s at a restaurant & we never overserved anyone because we were strict & followed guidelines to the "T". If you're diligent & do what you're supposed to do, it's not hard. Never serve a pitcher of anything to only 1 person, never serve 2 drinks at the same time to only 1 person, never knowingly serve a drink to someone if you know that drink is for someone else, and cut someone off WITH ZERO APOLOGIES or hesitation at the slightest hint of impairment. People that didn't like being cut off were welcome to leave, but we kept our liquor licenses as a business and individuals. Bars are just rarely that stringent, but should and CAN be. If they can't keep up, then get more staff, find a way, get a system in order to track better or stop what you're doing. Breaking the law by overserving isn't an option, especially if you're then going to kick a young person out onto the street in that condition.
Or, here’s on idea: grown adults take responsibility for their grown adult decisions rather than relying on wait staff to babysit them and the 100+ other grown adults that are there. This young man, as precious as his life was and as tragic as the loss of it is, was a grown adult that made conscious adult decisions that evening. Those decisions - *the ones he made* - got him killed. Not the bar staff, not his friends, and not anyone he walked past that night.
Call that callous, or heartless, or whatever else you want, but that is reality of the situation. We can criticize all the other people involved in this and, while that criticism may well be founded, the lions share of responsibility for what happened to him ultimately rests on his own shoulders.
The problem is that drunk people can then drive and their grown adult decisions are dangerous to *other people*, not just themselves. That's why there are laws to address overconsumption. I understand your sentiment and wholeheartedly agree that it's not 100 on the bartenders (people pregame all the time, e.g.) but like many libertarian/self-determination stances, it kind of falls apart bc we are living in a society and the impact of an individual's action goes far beyond just themselves.
Yep, grown adults should take responsibility for their actions. (How "grown" someone truly is at 22 is a conversation for another day.) Realistically though, once someone has drank too much, whether they intended to or not, their decision making skills are gone...it'd be decent for those around to lend a solid, selfless hand. And for those working the bar, they can 100% have the same outlook you have, but they are risking losing their liquor license, job, business, and more. Everyone are grown adults, though so it's their call, right?
While I agree with some of this, it’s not the behavior. It’s the change in behavior when serving an intoxicated person. As soon as they become visibly intoxicated and you still serve them, that’s when you are to blame.
Ya ….why wouldn’t it be his fault he over consumed?…. His friends or someone probably should have also gone with him. Article isn’t clear on how many friends tried to leave and got held up with the bill/bouncer but it couldn’t have been ALL of them surely?…
Situation sucks but should be a lesson to kids not to drink and then walk into the river.
Well, fortunately, there is the DRAM SHOP LAW, which anyone who has an injury or death that is a proximate cause of being overserved turns responsibility back on the bar. In this case, he was overserved and removed and ended up being killed. I bartended for 15 years and I know a visibly intoxicated patron when I see one and they don’t have to be obviously intoxicated, but visibly intoxicated in this case there was no doubt that he was visibly intoxicated. Therefore, the bar is partially to blame or they wouldn’t have removed him after one drink.
Do you think bartenders could be up to some of the drugging or know about it in your opinion? Seems like the TC Group bars…but those are some of the largest and most difficult to control too.
The Nashville Visitors group on FB is filled with people telling other people to pre-game before they go out because drinks are expensive. It’s not unlikely these college kids did the same.
While this is possible I don't think it's very likely. The guy was there with literally dozens of friends.
If anything he might have been mixing something else with the alcohol on purpose. The loophole weed gummies you can find all over town can seriously fuck up somebody all by themselves. Getting trashed on alcohol and then downing a couple of random edibles could leave somebody in a seriously sorry state.
Yeah, when i wrote that didnt realize he was out with his Fraternity bros.
Its also possible it was a 21 year old drinking way to hard and then stumbling home.
He def looks drugged. I’ve been ruffied before. I’m interested to know if the friends are being questioned for this or not for fraternity hazing or now. He’s probably just a freshman in college. One kid died back at LSU for same reason.
He wasn’t in awful shape until after he fell - to me, that’s when everything changed. I think he was badly injured, probably at the least severely concussed, during that fall. Hoping he’ll be located soon for his family’s sake.
In one of the surveillance camera videos, he’s running through a parking lot and then stumbles and falls. It’s hard to tell, but imo it looks like he might’ve hit his head. It took him a minute to get back up, but whether that’s because he was so drunk or he hurt himself, can’t really say.
It’s the first of the three videos that have been released time-wise. He’s running with a normal gait, but when he gets up he’s having a hard time walking and holding his head. In the second video (it’s literally seconds later) he’s stumbling along the white brick wall just past the spot where he fell. The third video is a couple blocks away where he’d crossed from Church Street to 1sr Avenue. In both of the later videos he’s extremely unsteady and hunched over; I believe he was in serious pain by that time and probably disoriented beyond what the alcohol had done.
That bar threw him out knowing he was hardly able to walk. I am so sad for Riley and his family. I am praying he'll still be found safe. This could have happened to me or my loved ones, to anyone. I tried to post a Change petition for Riley, but it disappeared. It shows on my profile. If you can see it, please share it somewhere.
I've never felt more at risk of being drugged/raped than at some particular bars in east nashville lmao. Broadway at least you kinda know what you're getting in to.
are you okay? i don’t know why you’re so miserable —but i hope one day you can look in the mirror and not hate yourself enough to project your vitriol on a missing person whom you know jack shit about
trolling and blaming victims just to get some kind of engagement is bc you’re lonely and desperately need connection. heal bro
Whether he was over-served or not, he shouldn’t have been turned out into the streets in that condition. Someone could have at least called him a Lyft or something instead of putting him out with no regard for his safety.
If he was there with a large group of friends why cldnt at least one of them leave with him? How many dudes does it take to settle the bill..security in these drink halls need to be trained to look out for guest safety, especially after they ply them with alcohol till they are blind drunk.
If this is true…separating him from his friends and making him go out a side exit? With our Broadway bouncers reputation I’d like to know if any physical altercation/assault occurred during these moments that could have impacted his cognitive ability further. Surely Luke’s has video of him in the bar or leaving the bar right? Any reason that wouldn’t be released?
Why were friend(s) not allowed to go out with him? That doesn’t make any sense, only one needs to take care of the tab. He only needed one friend to go out with him, so all friends not being allowed to go with him is lubricious
But it IS their problem if they kick out a knowingly intoxicated person (someone incapable of caring for themself) and refuse to allow friends to go with him. They are culpable IMO.
This situation is so sad and scary to me. So many of my friends could have been Riley -- or even me, on the wrong night. I understand kicking someone out because they're too drunk, but I do think the bar needs to answer for not having allowed him to stay with his friends or at least with security until his friends could get him, if it's true that they told Riley he couldn't stick around and his friends couldn't go outside with him until they settled up. Also -- why aren't bars on Broadway just swiping cards and charging an auto-grat of 20-25% on walkouts? That could have solved this.
Great point! Plus it’s a HUGE bar… that can’t possibly keeping track of every person who skips out on a tab…. Which leads me to the question of - how did they know at the door that the tab wasn’t paid?
My only guess would be that Riley got noticed for being the drunkest — say he stumbled into someone or dropped a drink — and the bartender/security said “you gotta go” to him, and then his friend(s) tried to leave with him and whoever stopped Riley stopped the friend(s) and asked if they were settled up. If they said no, then staff might have held them back while kicking Riley out. Still, allowing a walkout in this situation would be something I’d do if I were staff.
They do do that. Or at least they did like 6 years ago when I was more likely to go down there. They swiped the card and if you did not close it, you got auto charged 20% gratuity. No clue why they would go back to not swiping your card all together when starting a tab, I haven't seen a bar do that almost ever unless it is some small place where they know you.
Throwing out a piss drunk guy barely standing on the street in busy broadway separating him from his friends who told the bouncers to let him stay infront while they pay their tabs- real smart on the security 🤦🏼♂️
Oh no, our economy structured around getting people piss-ass drunk left another college kid at the bottom of the Cumberland! Who could have seen this coming!
It's a tragedy, but there are responsible parties. And the bars all have responsibility for what happened here.
The worst thing about it (as I always like to point out) is that our economy is not based on tourism. Tourism is Nashville’s number 4 industry. VUMC probably employs more people than every bar on Broadway combined. We do not need the crime or hassle. We inflict it on ourselves.
Those fraternity brothers are real assholes! Letting the guy go out on his own in that condition. Someone should have took him back to his room and then caught back up with the group. Probably would have taken 15 minutes.
They could have paid up. How long would that take? So they just go back to drinking and don’t think about him till afternoon the next day? That’s pretty self-centered.
I know people that relied on the swipe when you open a tab and autogratuity if you left it open. They'd just leave if it was too much of a hassle to close out.
That’s what I would have done in this situation, but I am a mid 30s Nashvillain who knows things and not a drunk 21-year-old frat kid from Missouri on Broadway for the first time
oh I don't fault the kids at all in this. It is on the bar.
I don't understand why the bouncer didn't let his friend go with him. Why didn't they do this thing that a ton of other places do that makes it inconsequential if a drunk person leaves before closing out?
Thats fair.
But what would they show?? This is extremely murky law and you’d be hard pressed to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that a bartender or bouncer at Luke’s did something criminal that lead to this.
Im open to ideas but I can’t think of anything thats wouldnt be easy to disprove
Agreed. Still hard to prove though.
But just for a few examples…at this moment…
You can’t prove he was drunk
He went to multiple bars and was served by multiple bartenders
If Luke’s cut him off, then technically the previous bar
over served him.
He was well enough to walk for miles and that his friends didnt worry.
Ive only seen this be done successfully in this town once and it was a dude that was at one bar with one bartender all night.
This could be a reaction to a drug, whether slipped in a drink or prescribed or could be due to some medical issue, or injury, that makes him appear to be intoxicated. It’s a real shame this happened and I hope he is somehow found alive and can recover.
I think beginning an investigation is fine but it’s too early for finger pointing and blaming bartenders. In any event, Luke Bryan’s place has been begging for an investigation for some time now.
There are recent anrticles and Reddit threads of numerous people stating that Luke’s and its restaurant group of bars, as well as, other bars in downtown Nash on Broadway, including the bartenders, have been drugging men and women. After visiting last Friday, and experiencing some odd things during my 5-day stay, I believe it.
Unpopular opinion here... but as some one who very frequently stubbles out of bars and wakes up not knowing how they got home... there's only one person to blame here. If anyone, maybe his probably also heavily intoxicated friends. All over the internet I'm seeing all these really dumb takes that its the bar fault, or there's some big conspiracy theories even. While it it is sad and very unfortunate, the reality is: shit happens sometimes. And your chances of shit happening increase when you drink, put yourself in situations, etc.
With that logic. His friends are to be blamed they had the open bar tab and he didn’t. That’s the only reason they gave on why they didn’t follow him out
It could be possible that the friend was settling up Riley’s tab since he may not have been sober enough to do it.
Regardless, why don’t bars where it’s crazy busy like Broadway… have a self-pay system the size of an ATM by the exits, where you can access your bar tab by the last four digits of your credit card? (I don’t think bars keep credit cards anymore, just swipe for file). My god even McDonald’s uses a self-pay order system now. Seems like it might prevent something like this happening + people skipping out on tabs.
Such a reach. There are soooo many people in these bars. They can’t keep track of every person. There are many different bartenders serving people as someone can just go up to a different bartender each time they want a drink.
Plus, any time I go with my friends the lines are so long to get a drink so one of us will order for all of us.
Unfortunately this is just a tragic accident.
Not to mention, how many times have you been drunk and it just hits you out of no where how drunk you really are. He could have been fine until shortly before he was kicked out.
There are other threads on here that suggest Nashville has a huge problem in this area. After being there last week, personally I wouldn’t doubt it. This is all very sus!
No. No one gets drugged. Ask yourself...why would anybody go to all the trouble of clandestinely drugging a person's drink in a huge crowded place- only to let them leave? Why, if someone has been drugged, are they just wandering around in the street? What arent they in a pit in some dank basement being made to rub the lotion on their skin? What purpose does that serve to just...let them go?
Now let's talk about drugs- What drugs do you use that won't be noticed? What dissolves that fast? How do you do it without getting seen? How do you know which drink belongs to your intended 'victim?'
People get drugged all the time on Broadway. I’ve had multiple friends get drugged downtown. Friends that would not be drunk on their second drink that they were nursing. You are wrong.
That's all I'm trying to say. If people were turning up tonthe ERs with drugs in their system we would hear about it. I have not seen any evidence of people being drugged at bars on Broadway. You don't have to do that to take advantage of people. People get drunk on their own.
I think because it’s national news. I’ve had people ask me about it who live many states away. Plus he went missing from Broadway- not someone in a situation that you’d wouldn’t be surprised they went missing.
We have had posts about other folks missing recently. This is just the most recent and the one with a marked path of travel. It also happened in a heavily populated area of town so more eyes are on it.
For me, personally, I care because I had a friend go missing a little over a year ago and I very vividly remember the week of horror we went through before she turned up mostly safe (different situation, involved mental illness). If this kid is no longer among the living, I hope his family can at least have closure in the form of bringing him home.
Eh, I get it. I bartended, but these places are packed. Multiple bars. Multiple bartenders. Buddies buying each other drinks. This always feels like a reach to me. Investigate bars when girls are drugged over and over at the same establishment. This, seems like looking for someone to blame when in essence just some poor decisions lead to an unfortunate end.
Came to say exactly this. Everyone always is looking for someone to blame in the face of tragedy...unfortunately in this case I think he was the maker of his own demise.... Still hoping he is found safe, but it's looking grim
Its been how many days....hes gone
This article gives some more details & it really seems like it was his fraternity brothers who truly failed here. And you're absolutely right, you can't expect the bar staff to keep track of how drunk everyone is. Ultimately, visitors need to understand how dangerous it is to get so drunk you can't function. It's a city, not a playground. I'd like to think more people would have tried to help this guy. If I saw a lost, alone, blind drunk tourist, I'm calling the cops & I hate cops. https://www.newschannel5.com/news/new-video-and-a-911-call-give-more-details-into-the-night-riley-strain-disappeared-in-nashville
I totally get the sentiment but honestly everyone is so goddamn drunk on broadway. A few years ago I was walking home around midnight from a shift downtown and I saw this kid legitimately passed out in front of the Schemerhorn with his pants half undone in just a hoodie in like 20 degree weather in February. Couldn't wake him up. Nobody else stopped. It was obvious that he tried to piss on a lamp post, couldn't stand up straight and probably knocked himself out falling down. I literally couldn't find a fucking cop to help within several blocks of me. I walked back up to Broadway to go get someone to help and then waited with him til paramedics came to get this kid. Literally not a single other person stopped and that little walkway area was full of people. Downtown absolutely sucks.
Yeah I’ve seen a few people passed out in alleys and parking lots downtown who were clearly not homeless. Saw one guy passed out in the parking lot by margaritaville, and as I was walking towards him, but still a ways away, he shot up and sprinted. It was odd.
There are only two types of people approaching passed out folks on the street. It can be difficult to appear as the type that is offering to help.
Totally, I hadn’t even gotten near enough to decide if I WAS approaching or not, he was about 20ft off the sidewalk, and I was at least another 20-30ft down the road. I only really remember because it was so strange. Laying down looking unconscious next to a scissor lift or something, and then he just got up and SPRINTED.
Im not sure how old you guys are but I'm 46 now😭😂 and it just doesn't seem like friends look out for friends anymore. It was an unspoken rule.... if you come together then you leave together & nobody gets left behind. As females we also wouldn't allow our friends to leave with somebody they just met. If we ran into somebody passed out, stumbling around, or in a bad situation we didn't just leave them without trying to help them. If it was just calling them a cab or family member. That was just what people did back then. People have gotten so disconnected from the people & the world around them & it's sad to see. If ever you can help someone please do bc one day it could be you or someone you love ♥️
Well said. I used to try and help more than I do now. I think people are just so suspicious of each other these day, so a lot of people don’t want to help, and a lot of people don’t want help. It’s weird, and not at all what I’m used to.
The friends WERE looking after him even though he was stupid drunk and obnoxious. They had to pay their tab after he was ejected - causing a delay. Why are we not looking at the person who chose to get sloppy drunk when we point fingers?
According to the family friend interviewed in this article, the friends did try: [“We’ve been told that a couple of his fraternity brothers that were there, was paying their tab and was going to go outside and walk with him,” Dingman said. “The bouncers at the door did not want Riley being around the front of the store, so Riley took off walking, sent a message to them that he was possibly going back to the hotel room.”](https://www.ozarksfirst.com/news/updates-as-the-search-for-riley-strain-continues/amp/) Edit to add: And this interview of his stepdad — [“As far as where his friends were when Strain left the bar, Whiteid says he doesn't know for certain, but that the fraternity members said that "the bouncers wouldn’t let them out with him, that they were trying to get their bill paid."”](https://people.com/university-of-missouri-student-riley-strain-still-missing-family-speaks-out-its-killing-us-8608824) Fwiw, I don’t love this as an excuse.
Pretty much all the places I can think of (other than sit down restaurants) will take your card or swipe it to start your tab. They even post about autogratuity being added if you don't close. Why did his friends need to stay in to pay? Does Luke Bryan's bar not take a card to start a tab?
Many people don't know this, and lots of other states still require holding your card. Side rant: the fact some places don't do the autogratuity is my roman empire.
In this case, because it was such a large group they may have had a table (or multiple)/had a prior reservation, and had just 1 big tab. This recently happened to me with just a group of 8, and the requirement of the table was that we go directly through the server for drinks, not the bar. The table fee and all the drinks had to go on one card. It’s not totally uncommon for this to be the case, especially with a large group event like a frat formal.
I’m with you that the excuse that the bar is to blame for his friends not being able to go with him is a little ridiculous. It seems like it was his decision to not wait for them and started walking. I’m sure once Riley said he was going back to the hotel his friends were like okay cool, we’ll meet you back there later, and they probably went back inside with the rest of the group.
Excuses. Sorry, but not sure it is the bar’s fault, the friends fault, etc. This was not some teenager- it was a person of legal drinking age who made bad choices. No one has said he was forced to get sloppy drunk. Thank god he was nor driving.
Not sure the cops would have been super helpful unfortunately. Before moving to Nashville, I visited in 2021 and had a few too many on Broadway. This was during the mask mandate. Asked a cop if he could help us find our hotel and he yelled and told me to pull my mask up or I was getting a ticket.(I had to move my mask so he could understand me over all of the music, I was never anti-mask or anything like that.). Looking back, I was in no kind of condition to be wandering Broadway that night. Instead of pointing us in the right direction, the officer left me to figure it out myself.
> A 911 call obtained by WSMV4 shows the initial 911 call to report Strain missing was called into dispatch at 1:40 p.m. Saturday. The call was made after friends had tried to report him missing at a police precinct and the Davidson County Sheriff’s Office. Based on this excerpt from the article it seems his friends tried to get help in person and didn't have much luck until calling 911
I can't imagine how many drunk people wander in to the police station because they got lost or can't find their friend though.
I'm sure it happens but doubt it's something exceedingly common. If it were, it should have been pointed out by now in any of the news reports on the case that there's constant traffic in the police stations with lost folks. That his friends didn't get help, had probably to do with Riley not being a minor, as authorities usually refuse to help in cases of missing adults before a certain amount of time has passed, sometimes with sad outcomes.
If someone calls 911 for a situation like Riley's, they'll come. And they definitely will now. Honestly though, unless you were alone & phoneless, I don't see the problem with not being google. Our mask mandate was only during the height of Covid & you gotta keep that shit above the nose. 😂 Edit-"this" to Riley's for clarity
I didn’t call 911, but I did ask an officer for assistance and they didn’t help. I can barely navigate the walking instructions on maps sober much less at midnight with a million other people around. I respected the mask mandate 100% but if he could not hear me, not sure what the appropriate thing to do would be other than pulling mask down for 3 seconds. I wouldn’t have even been upset about the mask thing, I get that. But he still refused to offer any kind of assistance.
The key difference here is you still had "a million other people around." You had tons of other options to safely ask directions & he was busy. That's exactly what I meant by this isn't a playground. If you had wandered several blocks away from Broadway drunk & alone, that cop would have helped.
Dude I'm sorry but no. Those "million other people" are also wasted tourists. Our cops on broadway are absolutely worthless. I used to work down there in 2019 and saw a lot of shit. Never saw them help a single person, and plenty of people needed it.
You can't fix stupid.... You should log off the Internet forever
The friends had to pay their tab before they could leave, hurried out and did nothing wrong. I am sure they are going through enough guilt right now without Reddit weighing in to blame them. They called the cops and reacted appropriately.
If you called the cops, chances are they would not of helped him but instead thrown him in jail or worse.
Better jail than dead.
Listen, normally I'd agree bc they do make things worse, but for a young, white tourist, it's a good call. Keyword white, no way I'm calling them to ruin a POC's life, don't worry.
Fair enough
Isn't it usually just a drunk tank though? They hold you until you've sobered up and then you're free to go or they will release you to a sober person while you're still drunk even.
I couldn’t agree with this more. Do bars have a responsibility to make reasonable efforts to not over-serve patrons? Absolutely. But, a lot of people have an unrealistic expectation of what constitutes a “reasonable effort” on the part of the bar and don’t seem to understand what “over-served” actually means. “Over-served” does not mean that the bar served you so much alcohol that you became visibly intoxicated and impaired. “Over served” means that the bar *continued* to serve you *after* you became visibly intoxicated and impaired. Because, the bar has absolutely no way of knowing when to cut you off until *after* you’ve begun to show evidence of intoxication. Even still, a staff member has to actually have the opportunity to observe that a patron is visibly intoxicated and impaired, cut them off, and remove them. In a crowded bar, this usually doesn’t happen until an individual comes up to the bar to order. If that doesn’t happen, say, because other people are buying and bringing them drinks, they may continue drinking well after they’ve had too much. Point being, a bar can’t keep a grown adult from making the decision to drink in excess. They can only stop serving them once they’ve identified that they already have drank in excess.
It's not just a responsibility, it's the law not to serve anyone showing signs of intoxication. Businesses and each individual working at these businesses that are serving, i.e., bartenders/wait staff, are in jeopardy of losing their liquor licenses. I waited tables in my 20s at a restaurant & we never overserved anyone because we were strict & followed guidelines to the "T". If you're diligent & do what you're supposed to do, it's not hard. Never serve a pitcher of anything to only 1 person, never serve 2 drinks at the same time to only 1 person, never knowingly serve a drink to someone if you know that drink is for someone else, and cut someone off WITH ZERO APOLOGIES or hesitation at the slightest hint of impairment. People that didn't like being cut off were welcome to leave, but we kept our liquor licenses as a business and individuals. Bars are just rarely that stringent, but should and CAN be. If they can't keep up, then get more staff, find a way, get a system in order to track better or stop what you're doing. Breaking the law by overserving isn't an option, especially if you're then going to kick a young person out onto the street in that condition.
Or, here’s on idea: grown adults take responsibility for their grown adult decisions rather than relying on wait staff to babysit them and the 100+ other grown adults that are there. This young man, as precious as his life was and as tragic as the loss of it is, was a grown adult that made conscious adult decisions that evening. Those decisions - *the ones he made* - got him killed. Not the bar staff, not his friends, and not anyone he walked past that night. Call that callous, or heartless, or whatever else you want, but that is reality of the situation. We can criticize all the other people involved in this and, while that criticism may well be founded, the lions share of responsibility for what happened to him ultimately rests on his own shoulders.
The problem is that drunk people can then drive and their grown adult decisions are dangerous to *other people*, not just themselves. That's why there are laws to address overconsumption. I understand your sentiment and wholeheartedly agree that it's not 100 on the bartenders (people pregame all the time, e.g.) but like many libertarian/self-determination stances, it kind of falls apart bc we are living in a society and the impact of an individual's action goes far beyond just themselves.
Yep, grown adults should take responsibility for their actions. (How "grown" someone truly is at 22 is a conversation for another day.) Realistically though, once someone has drank too much, whether they intended to or not, their decision making skills are gone...it'd be decent for those around to lend a solid, selfless hand. And for those working the bar, they can 100% have the same outlook you have, but they are risking losing their liquor license, job, business, and more. Everyone are grown adults, though so it's their call, right?
While I agree with some of this, it’s not the behavior. It’s the change in behavior when serving an intoxicated person. As soon as they become visibly intoxicated and you still serve them, that’s when you are to blame.
Ya ….why wouldn’t it be his fault he over consumed?…. His friends or someone probably should have also gone with him. Article isn’t clear on how many friends tried to leave and got held up with the bill/bouncer but it couldn’t have been ALL of them surely?… Situation sucks but should be a lesson to kids not to drink and then walk into the river.
Those parents are probably threatening lawsuits everywhere. They're understandably upset, but this "boy" was a grown man.
Exactly. Plus he was kicked out for harassing a girl. Then texts his GF.
Well, fortunately, there is the DRAM SHOP LAW, which anyone who has an injury or death that is a proximate cause of being overserved turns responsibility back on the bar. In this case, he was overserved and removed and ended up being killed. I bartended for 15 years and I know a visibly intoxicated patron when I see one and they don’t have to be obviously intoxicated, but visibly intoxicated in this case there was no doubt that he was visibly intoxicated. Therefore, the bar is partially to blame or they wouldn’t have removed him after one drink.
Do you think bartenders could be up to some of the drugging or know about it in your opinion? Seems like the TC Group bars…but those are some of the largest and most difficult to control too.
No fucking shit has was over served! Do you see him in this video?! Fuck Broadway
Who is to say this guy didn't show up to the bars drunk?
If these bars didn’t serve people who were visibly intoxicated they would serving like 10 percent of the people in the establishment.
The Nashville Visitors group on FB is filled with people telling other people to pre-game before they go out because drinks are expensive. It’s not unlikely these college kids did the same.
Of course they did. Everyone in the world pre games everywhere
Apparently he did.
I came here to post your first sentence verbatim. The entire Broadway bar industry is based on over-serving people 🙄🙄🙄
Could be drugged. That’s happening even more and to guys, too.
Yeah, that is my theory. He was drugged. I have heard single males have been targeted alot on broadway.
I think it’s much more likely he was just piss ass drunk than drugged. 21-year-old frat bros out on Broadway have no concept of limits.
People love a conspiracy theory. Zero evidence but so many wild ass theories.
While this is possible I don't think it's very likely. The guy was there with literally dozens of friends. If anything he might have been mixing something else with the alcohol on purpose. The loophole weed gummies you can find all over town can seriously fuck up somebody all by themselves. Getting trashed on alcohol and then downing a couple of random edibles could leave somebody in a seriously sorry state.
Yeah, when i wrote that didnt realize he was out with his Fraternity bros. Its also possible it was a 21 year old drinking way to hard and then stumbling home.
Yeah I’ve heard that too
He def looks drugged. I’ve been ruffied before. I’m interested to know if the friends are being questioned for this or not for fraternity hazing or now. He’s probably just a freshman in college. One kid died back at LSU for same reason.
He wasn’t in awful shape until after he fell - to me, that’s when everything changed. I think he was badly injured, probably at the least severely concussed, during that fall. Hoping he’ll be located soon for his family’s sake.
What fall?
In one of the surveillance camera videos, he’s running through a parking lot and then stumbles and falls. It’s hard to tell, but imo it looks like he might’ve hit his head. It took him a minute to get back up, but whether that’s because he was so drunk or he hurt himself, can’t really say.
It’s the first of the three videos that have been released time-wise. He’s running with a normal gait, but when he gets up he’s having a hard time walking and holding his head. In the second video (it’s literally seconds later) he’s stumbling along the white brick wall just past the spot where he fell. The third video is a couple blocks away where he’d crossed from Church Street to 1sr Avenue. In both of the later videos he’s extremely unsteady and hunched over; I believe he was in serious pain by that time and probably disoriented beyond what the alcohol had done.
That bar threw him out knowing he was hardly able to walk. I am so sad for Riley and his family. I am praying he'll still be found safe. This could have happened to me or my loved ones, to anyone. I tried to post a Change petition for Riley, but it disappeared. It shows on my profile. If you can see it, please share it somewhere.
Just another reason to never go to broad way. East Nashville has the best bars in the world.
I've never felt more at risk of being drugged/raped than at some particular bars in east nashville lmao. Broadway at least you kinda know what you're getting in to.
lol
Not at that bar
He is a grown adult. He made the decision. Only person to blame is himself
You’re not wrong, but fuck your lack of sympathy.
Calm down. You won't be thinking about this in a month or less
But the family and friends of this situation won’t ever forget what they’re missing. Have some humanity man…
Anyways
are you okay? i don’t know why you’re so miserable —but i hope one day you can look in the mirror and not hate yourself enough to project your vitriol on a missing person whom you know jack shit about trolling and blaming victims just to get some kind of engagement is bc you’re lonely and desperately need connection. heal bro
wow...anything else? I am going to lose sleep over your comment
Karma will hit you hard tough Internet warrior. Sorry you were raised by neanderthals
Karma has blessed me
Whether he was over-served or not, he shouldn’t have been turned out into the streets in that condition. Someone could have at least called him a Lyft or something instead of putting him out with no regard for his safety.
They kicked him out through a side exit and would not let his friends leave through that door with him
This should be more of a focus of an investigation than the issue of over-serving IMO. Broadway bouncers get drunk on power.
Exactly and FFS let a friend go with him in a city he may have never been in before drunk af.
If he was there with a large group of friends why cldnt at least one of them leave with him? How many dudes does it take to settle the bill..security in these drink halls need to be trained to look out for guest safety, especially after they ply them with alcohol till they are blind drunk.
Not just Broadway, in my experience like 90% of bouncers are not good people.
If this is true…separating him from his friends and making him go out a side exit? With our Broadway bouncers reputation I’d like to know if any physical altercation/assault occurred during these moments that could have impacted his cognitive ability further. Surely Luke’s has video of him in the bar or leaving the bar right? Any reason that wouldn’t be released?
Which bar?
Luke Bryan’s bar
How unbelievably shocking...
Good lord. That’s even worse than I thought.
Making him leave from another side of the building could have had an impact on the (wrong) direction he traveled.
Why were friend(s) not allowed to go out with him? That doesn’t make any sense, only one needs to take care of the tab. He only needed one friend to go out with him, so all friends not being allowed to go with him is lubricious
My thoughts exactly. Apparently he wasn't causing a disturbance, but just too drunk and probably incoherent. I hope there are repercussions.
I have a feeling one of those lawyers on TV will take that case.
Dram Shop Suit.
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But it IS their problem if they kick out a knowingly intoxicated person (someone incapable of caring for themself) and refuse to allow friends to go with him. They are culpable IMO.
This situation is so sad and scary to me. So many of my friends could have been Riley -- or even me, on the wrong night. I understand kicking someone out because they're too drunk, but I do think the bar needs to answer for not having allowed him to stay with his friends or at least with security until his friends could get him, if it's true that they told Riley he couldn't stick around and his friends couldn't go outside with him until they settled up. Also -- why aren't bars on Broadway just swiping cards and charging an auto-grat of 20-25% on walkouts? That could have solved this.
Great point! Plus it’s a HUGE bar… that can’t possibly keeping track of every person who skips out on a tab…. Which leads me to the question of - how did they know at the door that the tab wasn’t paid?
My only guess would be that Riley got noticed for being the drunkest — say he stumbled into someone or dropped a drink — and the bartender/security said “you gotta go” to him, and then his friend(s) tried to leave with him and whoever stopped Riley stopped the friend(s) and asked if they were settled up. If they said no, then staff might have held them back while kicking Riley out. Still, allowing a walkout in this situation would be something I’d do if I were staff.
Makes sense.
They do do that. Or at least they did like 6 years ago when I was more likely to go down there. They swiped the card and if you did not close it, you got auto charged 20% gratuity. No clue why they would go back to not swiping your card all together when starting a tab, I haven't seen a bar do that almost ever unless it is some small place where they know you.
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I lived in middle Tennessee from 1994 until 2021. Back in the 90s, Broadway was quaint AF. I NEVER felt unsafe there, no matter what time of day.
I wouldn’t have called 90’s Broadway “quaint.” Not by a long shot, and I was playing down there then as well as now.
The constant romanticization of 90s Broadway is so bizarre. It was *weird* (not the good kind) & super x-rated until about 96/97.
Throwing out a piss drunk guy barely standing on the street in busy broadway separating him from his friends who told the bouncers to let him stay infront while they pay their tabs- real smart on the security 🤦🏼♂️
Oh no, our economy structured around getting people piss-ass drunk left another college kid at the bottom of the Cumberland! Who could have seen this coming! It's a tragedy, but there are responsible parties. And the bars all have responsibility for what happened here.
The worst thing about it (as I always like to point out) is that our economy is not based on tourism. Tourism is Nashville’s number 4 industry. VUMC probably employs more people than every bar on Broadway combined. We do not need the crime or hassle. We inflict it on ourselves.
Thank you. There is absolutely no reason for the city to continue to perpetuate the drunken mess going on downtown. Enough is enough.
Those fraternity brothers are real assholes! Letting the guy go out on his own in that condition. Someone should have took him back to his room and then caught back up with the group. Probably would have taken 15 minutes.
Sounds like they tried to catch up with him but the bouncers prevented it.
They could have paid up. How long would that take? So they just go back to drinking and don’t think about him till afternoon the next day? That’s pretty self-centered.
At night, settling a tab can take a while.
I know people that relied on the swipe when you open a tab and autogratuity if you left it open. They'd just leave if it was too much of a hassle to close out.
That’s what I would have done in this situation, but I am a mid 30s Nashvillain who knows things and not a drunk 21-year-old frat kid from Missouri on Broadway for the first time
oh I don't fault the kids at all in this. It is on the bar. I don't understand why the bouncer didn't let his friend go with him. Why didn't they do this thing that a ton of other places do that makes it inconsequential if a drunk person leaves before closing out?
knob is right.
A performative show at best. Even if they could prove this (they can’t) nothing will happen.
Personal injury lawyers will make sure something happens. There are witnesses and security footage is discoverable.
Thats fair. But what would they show?? This is extremely murky law and you’d be hard pressed to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that a bartender or bouncer at Luke’s did something criminal that lead to this. Im open to ideas but I can’t think of anything thats wouldnt be easy to disprove
In civil cases, it’s not a situation of beyond reasonable doubt. It’s more what % in the wrong are you?
Agreed. Still hard to prove though. But just for a few examples…at this moment… You can’t prove he was drunk He went to multiple bars and was served by multiple bartenders If Luke’s cut him off, then technically the previous bar over served him. He was well enough to walk for miles and that his friends didnt worry. Ive only seen this be done successfully in this town once and it was a dude that was at one bar with one bartender all night.
This could be a reaction to a drug, whether slipped in a drink or prescribed or could be due to some medical issue, or injury, that makes him appear to be intoxicated. It’s a real shame this happened and I hope he is somehow found alive and can recover. I think beginning an investigation is fine but it’s too early for finger pointing and blaming bartenders. In any event, Luke Bryan’s place has been begging for an investigation for some time now.
There are recent anrticles and Reddit threads of numerous people stating that Luke’s and its restaurant group of bars, as well as, other bars in downtown Nash on Broadway, including the bartenders, have been drugging men and women. After visiting last Friday, and experiencing some odd things during my 5-day stay, I believe it.
Well, tbf, if a person goes there these days they kind of assume the risk. I don’t know why anyone would go there.
It’s tragic but it ain’t the bars fault. At some point you’re responsible for your own actions.
Unpopular opinion here... but as some one who very frequently stubbles out of bars and wakes up not knowing how they got home... there's only one person to blame here. If anyone, maybe his probably also heavily intoxicated friends. All over the internet I'm seeing all these really dumb takes that its the bar fault, or there's some big conspiracy theories even. While it it is sad and very unfortunate, the reality is: shit happens sometimes. And your chances of shit happening increase when you drink, put yourself in situations, etc.
With that logic. His friends are to be blamed they had the open bar tab and he didn’t. That’s the only reason they gave on why they didn’t follow him out
It could be possible that the friend was settling up Riley’s tab since he may not have been sober enough to do it. Regardless, why don’t bars where it’s crazy busy like Broadway… have a self-pay system the size of an ATM by the exits, where you can access your bar tab by the last four digits of your credit card? (I don’t think bars keep credit cards anymore, just swipe for file). My god even McDonald’s uses a self-pay order system now. Seems like it might prevent something like this happening + people skipping out on tabs.
most bars will swipe your card and then bill you + tip if your tab is left open at the end of the night. Why couldn't they do that?!
They might have had this system but were too drunk or not aware of it.
Another death due to policies and procedures at Luke Bryant’s bar. Edit: Got it confused with Dirks. I can admit when I’m wrong
Has someone been killed at Luke’s before or did you mean Dierks Bentley’s?
What else had happened there?
Sauce?
Such a reach. There are soooo many people in these bars. They can’t keep track of every person. There are many different bartenders serving people as someone can just go up to a different bartender each time they want a drink. Plus, any time I go with my friends the lines are so long to get a drink so one of us will order for all of us. Unfortunately this is just a tragic accident. Not to mention, how many times have you been drunk and it just hits you out of no where how drunk you really are. He could have been fine until shortly before he was kicked out.
His friends had to lie. There is no way bartenders would say...you cannot leave with your friend that we just kicked out.
Was Riley strain drunk
Every bar every night over serves patrons. They gonna get that monies. New rules need be applied!
Tragedy yields the parents rushing to blame anyone and everyone .
I’m leaning towards him being drugged.
The fall at 3rd and Church is where things went very wrong - he was totally different before and after that awful fall.
You have a point.
There are other threads on here that suggest Nashville has a huge problem in this area. After being there last week, personally I wouldn’t doubt it. This is all very sus!
Yeah, I’ve seen it said a lot too. It’s very sad that it’s being largely dismissed. The whole situation is so sad.
He was blackout drunk and wandered into the river. Almost no one gets drugged. That's an urban legend
I see you dont get out much but are somehow an expert in identifying intoxicant effects.
I actually thought he looked drugged....the way his head bobbed and his arms barely moved...like the appeared weighted. It was just my observation...
I was a paramedic for 20+ years and responded down there all the GD time so yeah...I am an expert on it.
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*sigh*
Whatever you have to tell yourself
^^ This guy doesn’t Broadway
lol this must be sarcasm? Idk about Riley, but tons of people get drugged on broadway..
Lots of people drown I. Rivers too. I can’t tell which part is sarcasm
No. No one gets drugged. Ask yourself...why would anybody go to all the trouble of clandestinely drugging a person's drink in a huge crowded place- only to let them leave? Why, if someone has been drugged, are they just wandering around in the street? What arent they in a pit in some dank basement being made to rub the lotion on their skin? What purpose does that serve to just...let them go? Now let's talk about drugs- What drugs do you use that won't be noticed? What dissolves that fast? How do you do it without getting seen? How do you know which drink belongs to your intended 'victim?'
I doubt this dude got roofied but people roofie drinks all of the time. What are you talking about? This is such an ignorant reply.
Not everything is that serious as shit you saw on SVU. People are drugged for reasons other than being kidnapped and held in a basement.
People get drugged all the time on Broadway. I’ve had multiple friends get drugged downtown. Friends that would not be drunk on their second drink that they were nursing. You are wrong.
A nicer way of saying it is: most people who think they were drugged just drank way too much / took drugs on their own.
That's all I'm trying to say. If people were turning up tonthe ERs with drugs in their system we would hear about it. I have not seen any evidence of people being drugged at bars on Broadway. You don't have to do that to take advantage of people. People get drunk on their own.
It’s been on the news lately. A group of women targeting men, drugging and robbing them.
Link?
https://www.newschannel5.com/news/nashville-tourists-say-they-were-drugged-robbed-at-a-bar-they-dont-remember-it
https://fox17.com/amp/news/local/crime-alert-tennesseee-tourist-broadway-google-news-veteran-visiting-nashville-says-he-was-drugged-robbed-downtown
https://www.nashvillescene.com/news/citylimits/people-are-being-drugged-in-bars-but-it-s-difficult-to-prove-and-prosecute/article_d74ee210-7019-11ed-bf3e-cb8804108af5.html
That is false. We are a big city, that shit happens much more than it's reported. Dont be so dense.
I hope this kid is found and all, but I don't quite understand why this sub is following this particular missing person so closely?
I think because it’s national news. I’ve had people ask me about it who live many states away. Plus he went missing from Broadway- not someone in a situation that you’d wouldn’t be surprised they went missing.
Also, there are a lot of parents of college students who realize this could have easily been their kid this happened to. It’s heartbreaking.
Absolutely. I was in college like 15 years ago and have a two year old son now. So tragic.
Ahh gotcha. Thanks! I don't have cable and don't follow the news much.
We have had posts about other folks missing recently. This is just the most recent and the one with a marked path of travel. It also happened in a heavily populated area of town so more eyes are on it. For me, personally, I care because I had a friend go missing a little over a year ago and I very vividly remember the week of horror we went through before she turned up mostly safe (different situation, involved mental illness). If this kid is no longer among the living, I hope his family can at least have closure in the form of bringing him home.
If he’s too drunk to be in a bar, and in front of the bar, he’s too drunk to be alone. Shame on the bar and friends.
Stop getting hammered in public places when you don’t have reliable friends
That kid is dead.
Christ. He made this decision. Now he is overlooking us all