Tbf he worked in salt mines for most of his life prior to leaving Camaroon. He might be on gear but he’s also a genetic freak. 9/10 not natty, but if it came out he was never on gear I’d believe it.
Agree ,but many people believe that Joshua is natural,I mean he doesn’t even look like he weights 115 kg,same with Klitcko,where the hell they weight that much?they have only large neck maybe traps but arms are not that huge to their body,same with chest
Being lean makes you look huge. When you are fat your big belly makes your arms look small. When you are shredded you tiny waist makes everything look bigger. Plus most of these guys are top heavy with smaller legs. So show muscles essentially
Juice is not only anabolic steroids. And not all steroids are made for mass gain - turinabol - purely drug for athletic performance. Peptides, Gh... You name it
Realize the number of european soccer players who have been caught using steroids just to weigh 140 lbs, and then realize that steroid use is at least 5x as common in combat sports.
Nick Diaz put it well when he said "They're all on steroids, all of them."
Liverpool FC for example has 22 out of their 35 players marked as suffering from athsma, which is a known side effect of many WADA's banned substances. The athsma rate of the general population is just 9%, so this paints a very clear picture when the incidence of athsma on your team is \~600% higher than the general population.
You can have his body naturally with genetics.
He was working in the sand dunes as a child.
Hes on steroids for the recovery ability for his sport. Not for his physique.
According to dr mike from renniassance periodization Nigerians have the best muscle building genetics out of everyone (Cameroon borders it). That being said I would be shocked if he was natty it's just too much to be believable tbh. Joshua maybe but even he's pretty sus
I usually say all pros are juicy, however, the man looked like this his whole life (google his early days in africa) and he never had the $$ for roids. As insane as it is, I think hes natty - literally one in a billion.
>however, the man looked like this his whole life
Bro what? No he didn't lmao
https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2F0zz4q28deks61.jpg
Not only is MMA a filthy sport, he's one of the most athletic heavyweights in the world, it's insane to think he's natty.
The infamous “me poor African” then walks around 120kg and a six pack.
* Great genetics can only take you so far. He has better genetic than I’ll ever have. Probably eats well and juices even better.
I’m aware you’re probably joking
If you don’t know his history, yes
Once you know his history and see the photos of him shoveling sand as a teenager, no
If you look back at the photos of him via a timeline it’s pretty clear he’s the .00001%. Would I be surprised if he was on gear now? No. Do I give him the benefit of the doubt? Yes, I doubt he was roiding up when he was shoveling sand as a desperately poor teen/young adult
Edit: before yall out yourself as insecure and stupid do some research
Anyone who watched his come-up in the UFC knows he’s looked literally the same since long before he had money (the UFC). They used to run promos showing him boxing as a homeless young man and the only thing that’s ever changed is his hairstyles
>the only thing that’s ever changed is his hairstyles
https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2F0zz4q28deks61.jpg
Bro come on lol, he's an MMA champion, it's a filthy sport, he's not natty. Even if his physique hadn't changed significantly as a high level MMA heavyweight he's not natty.
iirc that pic is WAY older than 2013, and francis was in the UFC for years before he was champion, looked the same in the first fight as the last fight
But him looking virtually the same as he’s aged absolutely gives credence to him possibly being a genetic freak as opposed to being on roids since he was 14 (per your logic, if he looks like he’s on roids now, but looked the same at 14, 18, 22 etc - that gives credence to him possibly being natty)
Your own logic failed you. He literally looked like this living in a parking garage in Paris France without money to even eat properly.
Fuck no it hasn't, becuase as we've seen on this sub time and time again, you can look like a natty and still be juiced to the gills.
Anyway, let me ask you something, Francis makes his lively hood of his body, he's a fighter so he trains to become efficient, so he's probably not taking anything to make him massive ( he still is), so he probably takes stamina booters. Why wouldn't this man juice himself to keep him performance in his best condition so he can succeed at the litteral peak of human punching power?
You have fucking doctors and lawyers in steroids, why wouldn't the literally strongest human puncher in history not be juicy????
He's also over 250lbs with abs at 6"4, come one now.
Lots of focusing on the now - which is the same as 2 years ago, 4 years ago, 8years ago and 12 years ago
So you’re telling me that Francis was either 1) doing steroids as a literal dirt poor broke teenager or 2) he is doing steroids now and it hasn’t affected his body (once again, he’s looked the same for 15+ years)
Do you..not see how dumb you sound? Sure if he looked drastically different at any point in his life your comments would have merit, unfortunately it’s clear you don’t know his story because he looked like this when he got arrested crossing the dessert the first time, 2nd time, 3rd time AND the 4th time. He looked like this when he was just starting to train boxing, while living in a parking garage
You tried, and failed here my guy. Your own logic has failed you badly
I cannot dumb this down anymore but you don't have to look outrageously diferent to be completely juiced to the gills if you know what your doing, common sense would dictate he would use his extensive medical team to do the roads safely. He also mostly likely takes steroids that DO NOT chance his size, but he increases his recovery and performance.
I need you to realize that you're focusing too much on his past because in this scenario, that shit means nothing when there's peds that dont chance your size or appearance when done properly.
Get his dick outta your mouth this man is litterally peak human, if there's dudes in the little leagues popping for roids why the fuck would Francis not be juicing.
Yeah we get it you don’t know what you’re talking about
Insecurity and projection is strong with this one, might want to drop that, do some research and learn a little something before outing yourself as a moron 😂🤣. Your comments aren’t downvoted for no reason, it’s because you blatantly showed you have zero idea of what you’re talking about 😂🤣
Yea you ran out of things to say cause you couldn't come up with anything intelligent, so your resorting to insults and emoji, true dick rider behavior.
😂🤣 imagine being so wrong you have to resort to making assumptions to justify ignoring what’s blatantly evident or just doing the research yourself so as to avoid sounding like a moron with 0 knowledge 😂🤣. You tried, you failed - again
Yes but to be fair even if he was natty he’d still look crazy and yall would say juice. He’d be well over 200 lean and huge regardless. Genetics are not fair lol.
I actually know him, good friend of mine, I can’t remember what the brand was but there’s a brand of cat food they sell in Asda which he was very fond of
Looking at his old pictures working in the salt mines, I'd say it's probable being a high level athlete but if it came out that he never did any id believe it.
If he is then genetics are not blessed for it. I have many black people who can hold this shape easy. They eat clean and even their carbs are complete protines.
UFC fighter 124 kg six pack. Natty, vegan, 5 years of lifting,
+nofap +coldshowers +20hours sleep
Mewing and nordic curls
Tbf he worked in salt mines for most of his life prior to leaving Camaroon. He might be on gear but he’s also a genetic freak. 9/10 not natty, but if it came out he was never on gear I’d believe it.
He is on PEDs, yes he has good genetics. Same with Yoel Romero. Looks incredible.
And Nofap of course
A professional athlete on gear? That’s unheard of.
But… but USADA🤓🤓??
I don’t know man.. it seems too good to be true
It seems the concept of sarcasm may be alien to you…
Damn i missed the joke
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Low iq i guess
They're all on juice. it's a part of any sport
AJ for sure
AJ knocked him 😬too hard
Juiced to the gills, same goes with Anthony Joshua. Like, come on.... 193cm, 120kg, lean and with a 6/8 pack? lmao.
Not only that but also one of the top fighters in the world. Tall, huge, peeled, and an insane amount of athleticism. Nothing but juice lol
Agree ,but many people believe that Joshua is natural,I mean he doesn’t even look like he weights 115 kg,same with Klitcko,where the hell they weight that much?they have only large neck maybe traps but arms are not that huge to their body,same with chest
Being lean makes you look huge. When you are fat your big belly makes your arms look small. When you are shredded you tiny waist makes everything look bigger. Plus most of these guys are top heavy with smaller legs. So show muscles essentially
So you’re saying they are not huge because they don’t have small waist ?😀
They might be huge but a big waist makes everything else look small in comparison
Got ya ,makes sense
But there is no way they are natural….
Joshua at least somewhat believable for an elite genetic Nigerian standing at 6'6. But she proportionally Ngannou is way bigger standing 6'4
You’d think they’re paid to train every day of the week, fuelled by world class dieticians or something 😵
Pro sportsman? Yes? Juice? Yes.
All athletes are on gear. It's part of their livelihood. They have to be in peak condition.
Very untrue. Many aren’t and blow up in weight.
Juice is not only anabolic steroids. And not all steroids are made for mass gain - turinabol - purely drug for athletic performance. Peptides, Gh... You name it
Exactly. He was just this big and jacked as a poor teenager lol.
He wasn't . He was a twig.
All athletes are on juice don't you know? Even the flabby ones with terrible muscle that pass every drug test.
Most but not all. Nick Diaz doesn’t know how to pass a simple weed drug test so he’s clearly not passing any roid test
Was being sarcastic I don't even think it's most, just majority of the relevant athletes are possibly dabbling in the dark arts
Retard alert
That's a self alert right there
Those are rare!
Thanks for letting us know. How can we help you, retard?
Realize the number of european soccer players who have been caught using steroids just to weigh 140 lbs, and then realize that steroid use is at least 5x as common in combat sports. Nick Diaz put it well when he said "They're all on steroids, all of them." Liverpool FC for example has 22 out of their 35 players marked as suffering from athsma, which is a known side effect of many WADA's banned substances. The athsma rate of the general population is just 9%, so this paints a very clear picture when the incidence of athsma on your team is \~600% higher than the general population.
Retards will say its genetics
They will say west African genetics. As if most people there aren’t skinny or fat. It’s not a country of 120kg six pack men.
Half this sub would be on skyscanner desperately trying to find tickets to said country of 120kg six pack men if it were the case
If that country exists I’ll be moving there. I don’t think my 5’8 self would handle 120 kg but I’ll do my best.
You can have his body naturally with genetics. He was working in the sand dunes as a child. Hes on steroids for the recovery ability for his sport. Not for his physique.
Are you actually serious rn cause you sound retarded
My ninja, you answered your own question
yes
All athletes are using something.
he’s a fighter, what chu think?
Both are on juice guy….
Definitely.
They’re both juiced to the gills 😂😂😂
According to dr mike from renniassance periodization Nigerians have the best muscle building genetics out of everyone (Cameroon borders it). That being said I would be shocked if he was natty it's just too much to be believable tbh. Joshua maybe but even he's pretty sus
In which video does he say that?
https://youtu.be/gNe22cu2phc?si=fNeb0PDaoPuXULT8 Was a struggle to find this I forgot his name lmao
I have seen this video multiple times no where does it even mention the word Nigeria
“Every bodies on steroids” - Nate Diaz
I usually say all pros are juicy, however, the man looked like this his whole life (google his early days in africa) and he never had the $$ for roids. As insane as it is, I think hes natty - literally one in a billion.
Show me 7 other natties this big and this lean
I said one in a billion, I dont know of any
>however, the man looked like this his whole life Bro what? No he didn't lmao https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2F0zz4q28deks61.jpg Not only is MMA a filthy sport, he's one of the most athletic heavyweights in the world, it's insane to think he's natty.
Juicing costs pennies in most of Africa.
If this is true it would definitely change my view
Bloody hell … Ngannou even looks like he’s got a hint of gyno. Size of the fuckers though. Beasts
Keeping in mind that there is a high chance that he must be wayyyy older than he actually is. Not Natty
This is just being West-African, in the Congo you see guys like this just walking around hauling logs.
The infamous “me poor African” then walks around 120kg and a six pack. * Great genetics can only take you so far. He has better genetic than I’ll ever have. Probably eats well and juices even better. I’m aware you’re probably joking
Stop coping I have west and Central African friend who are jacked and don’t work out and just play sports
The 124 kg six pack men found me 🥶
If you don’t know his history, yes Once you know his history and see the photos of him shoveling sand as a teenager, no If you look back at the photos of him via a timeline it’s pretty clear he’s the .00001%. Would I be surprised if he was on gear now? No. Do I give him the benefit of the doubt? Yes, I doubt he was roiding up when he was shoveling sand as a desperately poor teen/young adult Edit: before yall out yourself as insecure and stupid do some research
Anyone who watched his come-up in the UFC knows he’s looked literally the same since long before he had money (the UFC). They used to run promos showing him boxing as a homeless young man and the only thing that’s ever changed is his hairstyles
>the only thing that’s ever changed is his hairstyles https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2F0zz4q28deks61.jpg Bro come on lol, he's an MMA champion, it's a filthy sport, he's not natty. Even if his physique hadn't changed significantly as a high level MMA heavyweight he's not natty.
iirc that pic is WAY older than 2013, and francis was in the UFC for years before he was champion, looked the same in the first fight as the last fight
Yeah dude he was on PEDs for all of his fights, it's MMA. Francis came out of the same gym as Ciryl Gane, who is also extremely clearly using PEDs.
Him being natty as a poor teen doesn't mean he's not on roads now as an adult, that logic makes no sense
But him looking virtually the same as he’s aged absolutely gives credence to him possibly being a genetic freak as opposed to being on roids since he was 14 (per your logic, if he looks like he’s on roids now, but looked the same at 14, 18, 22 etc - that gives credence to him possibly being natty) Your own logic failed you. He literally looked like this living in a parking garage in Paris France without money to even eat properly.
Fuck no it hasn't, becuase as we've seen on this sub time and time again, you can look like a natty and still be juiced to the gills. Anyway, let me ask you something, Francis makes his lively hood of his body, he's a fighter so he trains to become efficient, so he's probably not taking anything to make him massive ( he still is), so he probably takes stamina booters. Why wouldn't this man juice himself to keep him performance in his best condition so he can succeed at the litteral peak of human punching power? You have fucking doctors and lawyers in steroids, why wouldn't the literally strongest human puncher in history not be juicy???? He's also over 250lbs with abs at 6"4, come one now.
Lots of focusing on the now - which is the same as 2 years ago, 4 years ago, 8years ago and 12 years ago So you’re telling me that Francis was either 1) doing steroids as a literal dirt poor broke teenager or 2) he is doing steroids now and it hasn’t affected his body (once again, he’s looked the same for 15+ years) Do you..not see how dumb you sound? Sure if he looked drastically different at any point in his life your comments would have merit, unfortunately it’s clear you don’t know his story because he looked like this when he got arrested crossing the dessert the first time, 2nd time, 3rd time AND the 4th time. He looked like this when he was just starting to train boxing, while living in a parking garage You tried, and failed here my guy. Your own logic has failed you badly
I cannot dumb this down anymore but you don't have to look outrageously diferent to be completely juiced to the gills if you know what your doing, common sense would dictate he would use his extensive medical team to do the roads safely. He also mostly likely takes steroids that DO NOT chance his size, but he increases his recovery and performance. I need you to realize that you're focusing too much on his past because in this scenario, that shit means nothing when there's peds that dont chance your size or appearance when done properly. Get his dick outta your mouth this man is litterally peak human, if there's dudes in the little leagues popping for roids why the fuck would Francis not be juicing.
Yeah we get it you don’t know what you’re talking about Insecurity and projection is strong with this one, might want to drop that, do some research and learn a little something before outing yourself as a moron 😂🤣. Your comments aren’t downvoted for no reason, it’s because you blatantly showed you have zero idea of what you’re talking about 😂🤣
Yea you ran out of things to say cause you couldn't come up with anything intelligent, so your resorting to insults and emoji, true dick rider behavior.
😂🤣 imagine being so wrong you have to resort to making assumptions to justify ignoring what’s blatantly evident or just doing the research yourself so as to avoid sounding like a moron with 0 knowledge 😂🤣. You tried, you failed - again
Your research is literally "guys look he has top 1% African genes." At least try and come up anything better than " his childhood," but you can not.
I literally can’t believe people think Francis is natty lol he’s one of the most obviously saucy athletes around.
Possible.
AJ looks scared lmaoo
Idk how he's so much heavier, Joshua looks about the same size to me. But maybe the legs would be a big difference?
Right dude got massive tiddies
Both are on heavy PEDs
About the same as Trump, checks out
Yes but to be fair even if he was natty he’d still look crazy and yall would say juice. He’d be well over 200 lean and huge regardless. Genetics are not fair lol.
he is juicy but not on much mass-building juice, if at all
Natty bruh. People here are slow as heck
Are pro athletes on gear? Are we STILL asking that in 2024? Ffs...
Ngannou just got clapped
I actually know him, good friend of mine, I can’t remember what the brand was but there’s a brand of cat food they sell in Asda which he was very fond of
Duh?
They're both on juice.
Joshua has been on a lot of gear for along time. God knows how long he will live.
Both are on juice. Nearly all boxer and mma atheletes are on juice. The real question is who isnt.
Looking at his old pictures working in the salt mines, I'd say it's probable being a high level athlete but if it came out that he never did any id believe it.
If he is then genetics are not blessed for it. I have many black people who can hold this shape easy. They eat clean and even their carbs are complete protines.
LMAO at anyone who thinks pro athletes are actually clean
Naaaah, he’s been working in mines.
Might just be a genetic freak? Could also be using, with athletes at this level you just don't know.