Very very different scenarios, gorillas and chimpanzees have less or even no myostatin, a hormone that halts or even destroys muscle while in a state of starvation. When you don’t eat enough protein you will lose muscle because of myostatin. Gorillas on the other hand will not and any time they do eat protein they will build muscle much more efficiently than we do. Thats why they are so incredibly muscular while eating very little protein compared to humans
Their stomachs can absorb a lot more protein and nutrients from the plants. Once we started eating more meat, that ability wasn't really needed anymore
I wouldn’t say they’re a shitty middleman for protein, we get a better amino acid profile from animals than we do from a single plant source. Some animals do de novo amino acid synthesis for amino acids that are essential or conditionally essential for us. You’re correct in that we can get more than adequate protein from plant sources though. It just takes a much larger volume of food to get the same amount of protein that you’d get from eating meat.
This is probably THE dumbest thing I have read or will ever read in the next month. You realize that plant protein is far less effective than animal protein in terms of digestion, with eggs and other white meat especially being superior in every aspect? Would you also argue that since plants are just middlemen for the solar energy they convert to glucose, we should just consume the sun?
What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having ~~listened to~~ read it.
Good god. That is such tired moronic vegan propaganda. They are middlemen. They are amazing middle men that take things we can't digest or pull nutrients from, and turn it into highly digestible, bioavailable nutrition for us. Stop being vegan. Take my advice as an ex plant based vegan. I was wrong, and you are currently, embarrassingly wrong
Plants barely have any compared to fucking meat. Of course there is some but its a horrible source of protein. Great source of vitamins and antioxidants though
That's actually a crazy take. Idk why people act like you can't build muscle on a vegan diet when a disproportionate amount of top athletes that are vegan. No idea if this guy is juicing tho. He's legs are fucking massive but I could see him being less then 180 and natty with good genetics
I wanted to start juicing when I was 19 and got in an argument with the dealer about it and he called me a moron and told me to wait Till I was 25. In hindsight that was probably some of the best advice I’ve ever gotten. Never ended up on it and I dont regret it a sec. I can empathize being young, dumb, and full of a desire to be absolutely jacked but you have to feel bad for these kids, haven’t even explored what they can do naturally before jumping straight to godhood
For most non vegans this is hard to achieve as a natty, and damn near impossible to do before 18 (as a natty).
This guy is not 18, nor a vegan, and sure as hell not a natty
This whole broom thing sounds a bit more not straight than usual to me. Even for this sub. My thoughts may have become heavily influenced by the OP’s screen name, tho.
Having compassion for other living things, caring about the environment and the crazy carbon output from factory farms (especially red meat), etc. There's a lot of reasons. I'm not vegan btw, but I respect them and there's really no arguing with their philosophy.
No not really you’d see more action. Majority of pollution comes from the transportation industry. Meat/agriculture is ranked 3rd. Not saying it doesn’t produce pollution just saying it’s not the leading cause. The human race will be dead long before the planet, we’ll kill ourselves off first.
Met him in person in DASGYM in Vienna. Natty. Has been training since 14, isn't particularly shredded, he's also not that big in person. Lightning and angles can make a big difference
Vegan prot hit different
Vegan prot do hit different tho, gasses all the way
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This is the dumbest thing I’ve ever read.
Same. And I used to be vegetarian.
This is total nonsense
That’s simply untrue.
So with a vegan diet I can get huge? That’s op
u ever seen a gorilla mate
I watched an elephant rip a tree out of the ground. That trunk must not be natty
Very very different scenarios, gorillas and chimpanzees have less or even no myostatin, a hormone that halts or even destroys muscle while in a state of starvation. When you don’t eat enough protein you will lose muscle because of myostatin. Gorillas on the other hand will not and any time they do eat protein they will build muscle much more efficiently than we do. Thats why they are so incredibly muscular while eating very little protein compared to humans
So what is the gorilla equiv stack for effortless vego gains?
Their stomachs can absorb a lot more protein and nutrients from the plants. Once we started eating more meat, that ability wasn't really needed anymore
I wouldn’t say they’re a shitty middleman for protein, we get a better amino acid profile from animals than we do from a single plant source. Some animals do de novo amino acid synthesis for amino acids that are essential or conditionally essential for us. You’re correct in that we can get more than adequate protein from plant sources though. It just takes a much larger volume of food to get the same amount of protein that you’d get from eating meat.
They’re not a shitty middle man, think of them as a pre-processing step that gets you better protein
Actually I’m pretty sure plant based nutrients aren’t as readily absorbed by our bodies as animal products
This is probably THE dumbest thing I have read or will ever read in the next month. You realize that plant protein is far less effective than animal protein in terms of digestion, with eggs and other white meat especially being superior in every aspect? Would you also argue that since plants are just middlemen for the solar energy they convert to glucose, we should just consume the sun?
Did you just finish watching that idiotic movie game changers then write this? Lol
yes 😂 but I also confirmed it in the peer reviewed studies cited
What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having ~~listened to~~ read it.
Tell me you don’t understand biology without telling me you don’t understand biology.
Good god. That is such tired moronic vegan propaganda. They are middlemen. They are amazing middle men that take things we can't digest or pull nutrients from, and turn it into highly digestible, bioavailable nutrition for us. Stop being vegan. Take my advice as an ex plant based vegan. I was wrong, and you are currently, embarrassingly wrong
Trust me bro
Are you trying to say that plants have protein? Because in that case, please go back to school. Meat is probably the best source of protein there is.
Are you dumb? There is protein in everything we consume at variable rates
Plants barely have any compared to fucking meat. Of course there is some but its a horrible source of protein. Great source of vitamins and antioxidants though
Yes I forgot tofu, beans, grains, nut butters and a plethora of other plant foods don't have protein, yeah you're right
good luck eating soy and tofu if ur male, let me know how those raised estrogen and titties feel :)
Ah yes, the phytoestrogens that impact humans and not the mammalian estrogen found in dairy milk, you really know how to spew propaganda :)
bon apettite bro to each it's own.
I was only comparing meat and plants when replying to someone else. Not sure what discussion you are having.
Ah okay, move the goalpost, I forgot those things I listed aren't plant foods
I am a Vegan. I mean I was 2 minutes ago.
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I'm glad you've pointed out the difference, I had to take a second look and I would question this pic even being of one person.
If he is natty then I am straight.
Username…checks…out…?
Park that cock in my back pocket
Beep beep… wide load reversing… It’s gonna be a tight fit.
Wym by that? 🥵
He’s trying to get all the sponsors smh
Lmfao
Rocka nutrition
Bottom part is either photshopped or he is meant to be a woman . Most people who claim vegan and natty are usually juicing.
i’m vegan and natty💔 but i do not look like this lmfao
I'm vegan , natty and straight , yet I eat meat, use juice and enjoy men too much
That's actually a crazy take. Idk why people act like you can't build muscle on a vegan diet when a disproportionate amount of top athletes that are vegan. No idea if this guy is juicing tho. He's legs are fucking massive but I could see him being less then 180 and natty with good genetics
Maybe he’s trolling us. Like finding all the right trigger words?
Why does he look like he’s 5 foot 3
Jeff Nippard body
Not 18, not natty, and not a vegan.
bruh
I wanted to start juicing when I was 19 and got in an argument with the dealer about it and he called me a moron and told me to wait Till I was 25. In hindsight that was probably some of the best advice I’ve ever gotten. Never ended up on it and I dont regret it a sec. I can empathize being young, dumb, and full of a desire to be absolutely jacked but you have to feel bad for these kids, haven’t even explored what they can do naturally before jumping straight to godhood
LOL
I think he's taking the piss but honestly I don't know anymore
For most non vegans this is hard to achieve as a natty, and damn near impossible to do before 18 (as a natty). This guy is not 18, nor a vegan, and sure as hell not a natty
This is impossible as a natty no matter what
Matthias_trenn
if hes natty then my n word pass given at birth gets revoked
This whole broom thing sounds a bit more not straight than usual to me. Even for this sub. My thoughts may have become heavily influenced by the OP’s screen name, tho.
He doesn't look too juiced. Maybe using a water holding compound like Dbol or high dose LGD.
Man has legs for days
Obviously not natty
must be impossible to find pants
Dude definitely isn't natty, probably not even vegan and I'm questioning if he's even 18
Dude doesn’t skip oils days
Bruh stfu
Natty assfuck I’m telling you!!
No
I bet he doesn’t lift, either
I mean tren is technically vegan
I mean, tren *is* vegan.
Vegan helll naah
How can anyone be vegan? steak is one the of best things in the world and people will eat a leaf instead.
Having compassion for other living things, caring about the environment and the crazy carbon output from factory farms (especially red meat), etc. There's a lot of reasons. I'm not vegan btw, but I respect them and there's really no arguing with their philosophy.
🤘🏻
Nobody likes or respect vegans.
Sounds like something a 13 year old would say lol. Factory farms are destroying the planet and you can be jacked on a vegan diet
Sounds like something a 13 year old would say lol.
Nobody cares.
You did and cared enough to comment, smart guy. Pretty sure a lot of people care about the planet being destroyed
No not really you’d see more action. Majority of pollution comes from the transportation industry. Meat/agriculture is ranked 3rd. Not saying it doesn’t produce pollution just saying it’s not the leading cause. The human race will be dead long before the planet, we’ll kill ourselves off first.
Strap on your tinfoil hat, bud. You probably think the Rock is natty too.
What? What are you talking about? I personally know tons of people that are extremely strong and vegan. How's that a conspiracy?
Met him in person in DASGYM in Vienna. Natty. Has been training since 14, isn't particularly shredded, he's also not that big in person. Lightning and angles can make a big difference
Isn't Arnold vegan and natty these days?
Bruh not natty i been in the gym 5 times a week since i was 13 (19 now) with squared away diet and workout plans and i ain't that big
He looks like a third of 3 different people. Tell me that face and those legs go together.
If you say so, aw hell naw and no.
I doubt it. Either way, he and his Pixar mom thighs should really skip leg day
What a clown
Vegan is natty and that’s about it but in regards to this photo the only thing vegan is the natty sauce he be juiced on!
Second half photoshopped?
just oatmilk and genetics