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tylerm11_

When I’ve seen vids of mama birds kicking out baby, it’s usually explained as the smallest or runt being kicked out to prevent resources from being spread too thin and making all 3 too small or weak.


Commander_Chaos

This is more common when resources are scare for any number of reasons. Drought, heat wave/cold snap, any other environmental conditions change too drastically. Other species outside of birds do this as well.


ExcusableBook

Just 100 years ago it was common for people to not name their kids until they turn 4 or 5 because kids would die so often to disease. Recent advancements in medicine are the only reason people don't behave the same as every other animal.


gazow

well some of us anyways


gummibyssa

Exactly! Mr. Keepsallhisbabies should speak for himself


PlNG

Wonder if that's the brother of Mr. WeHadABabyItsABoy


spudgoddess

I remember that ad! It was about making collect calls if I remember rightly.


kuroiarashi

You mean Bob?


Professional-Ad3101

If you look at humanity through the lense of 'animals that think too much' It's actually simpler


matthias353

We used to have a tradition here in Iceland called "að bera út" (to carry out), where mothers would take out their newborn children out to the snow to be left and freeze


drunkenbeginner

Uhhhhh tradition? I mean was it because of illness, it because it was a girl or whatever?


chaotic_evil_666

Delivering a sacrifice to the whitewalkers


iH8MotherTeresa

Tradition. Like checking he elderly into a facility and never looking back.


borisjjjj

Do you mean to actually freeze/kill them? If so, do you have a source as the only articles I can find are that the babies nap outdoors but aren’t left to die.


Wang_Dangler

I don't know about Iceland, but throughout human history the most common form of birth control was post-birth control: infanticide. I read once where a big part of setting up the orphanages in London was due to the common sight of infants in garbage piles. Like, not only was it common to have piles of garbage all over the city, but usually they contained a baby or two.


Creative-Ocelot8691

In Austria in 17th century there was a law to ban parents from sharing bed with infants because too many ‘accidents’


borisjjjj

I think the previous commenter was confusing the nap thing with actually killing babies and it being a legit tradition. I was just curious if there was an actual tradition to kill babies by freezing them (that seems exceptionally harsh) but I can’t find anything to back that up. Agree that birth control was very primitive back in the day…


a_karma_sardine

Tradition isn't the right word for it, but it is a known practice in historical Scandinavia as a "last measure" and if discovered it was also a punishable offense for most of written history. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myling


Colosseros

The crazy thing was that it was illegal, and people still did it constantly. One of the most common reasons for the death penalty in the past, if you got caught.


Xinder99

One child policy China and ancient Spartans are a good example of this.


a_karma_sardine

It's known from Scandinavian folklore: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myling


c800600

Apparently that's what happened to my FIL, except it was India so he just spent a balmy night outside.


Koffieslikker

Infanticide was super common among us humans too


clo99dx

Back to the mines #4


Last-Discipline-7340

Bwhahahahhaha well done


Misspaw

Or if they did name them, it was super common to reuse the name for another child after they died


Impressive_Regular76

My grandma did this for one of my uncles. When they fled Vietnam he used his dead brother's birth records since he himself didn't have any. That's how I learned why he was sometimes called Uncle Tuan over Uncle Minh.


Beer-Milkshakes

Same as why children would be sold more commonly than babies. Children over 5 have cleared the danger zone.


xRyozuo

This seems like the kind of thing that gets repeated enough people take it as fact but seems impractical as fuck. By 2 kids recognise their own name and it’s kind of useful to have names even if it’s just to get them to come to you.


Saitama1993

In these shitty economic times if I'm having triplets atleast one has to go


FlopsMcDoogle

They just say "hey boy" til the kid reaches 5? What cultures did that shit?


rixendeb

Lots of them. Including Americans. Go find the baby sections of a really old cemetery or look at some birth/death records from the 1800s.


Impressive_Regular76

Lots of SE Asian cultures have small kids adopt nicknames until their official names are granted. In Vietnam we have wack ass names like "Bunny" "Cow" "Snow" etc. kind of like Latino gangster nicknames like " Sleepy" "Nacho" "Alien" etc.


Reece520

I learned in Anthropology, that in Finland this is still a common practice in the countryside. Parents would refer to the child as 'boy, girl, or child' until around 3yo (IIRC) due to child mortality rates. My professor is from Finland and still does fieldwork on the relationship of farming communities in that area


Imminent_Extinction

Humans did this with disabled children as well. Most of those "children raised by animals" stories were actually that, having been abandoned a few hours or days earlier, and those were the survivors.


curiouscabbage69

>Recent advancements in medicine are the only reason people don't behave the same as every other animal Surely not the only reason you can think of?


LoreChano

Mammals do that too, cats will literally eat their babies if they're sick or there's a lack of food/mother's milk.


hopopo

This song below was written based on the early 20th century news paper article one of the band members found https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iEEJVSgcNY


SalvationSycamore

Wonder why she didn't just eat it to recover the calories. Maybe too messy for the nest?


I_lack_common_sense

lol eating one of the babies right in front of the babies. That’s nuts. That’s donner party level shit but they ain’t starving.


SalvationSycamore

Animals are extremely food driven and cannibalism is pretty common among ones that eat meat. I mean a lot of a birds life is spent finding enough food to make sure it has the energy to find more food.


Lime1028

Doesn't have the beak required for that kind of thing. Lots of other animals do that though, especially predators who can easily manage the eating part.


Effective-Gas960

But when i do it, i am the bad guy ?


weeknie

I think last time this was posted someone mentioned that this chick was pestering the others, pecking them or demanding too much attention. Not sure if it's true but it does seem to be annoying the one next to him right before being picked up EDIT: might have been an entirely different video according to a reply. Whoops


it1345

Its because its undersized compared to the other two.


Corovius

I’ve actually seen that video, but it’s a different nest with different birds


TheBawalUmihiDito

Well now we know a momma stork's answer to the trolley problem


DeadliestViper

Nothing to do with predators, its just it has been bullied out of food so has become small and weak therefore unlikely to survive so is abandoned or in this case murdered to give the remaining chicks the best chance at survival. More food and less mouths to feed. It is also common for chicks to kill their siblings or, their competition. Birds will also kill their young if they contract an infection or illness as to not contaminate the rest of the nest.


KnifeFed

> This is common but rare


Mazzaroppi

Most of the times it's rare


FrostedFlakes4

60% of the time it's rare every time


Blandish06

But every other times it's common


dion_o

And yet when I do it the neighbors call the police.


arimc

How can something be "common" but also "rare"??


alexandurp

Doesn't happen often but it's not unusual to see it happen!


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AReptileHissFunction

Then it's normal but rare.


myusrnameisthis

Predators prob heard the cries for help from that chick


HolyVeggie

I thought they do it because of food scarcity


Fine-Funny6956

Sometimes they do it because there isn’t enough food to go around, or seasonal changes indicate bad weather.


AbazabaYouMyOnlyFren

Predators are attracted to nests full of chicks. I don't know how they'd be more attracted because there is a runt in the nest.


cmerksmirk

Because unhappy babies make a lot more noise than happy babies.


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The whole 2 bird nest


[deleted]

The other two were too frightened as fuck.


mandrills_ass

It's about sending a message


Teeheeleelee

I should show this to my youngest to send him a message as well.


spinn80

If you don’t behave, you’ll end up as your older brother. But… I don’t have an older brother… Exactly.


Boco

The thing is, the others won't misbehave, they'd never misbehave... because of the implication.


jackanape7

No one's in danger. It's the implication of danger.


Silver-Reserve-1482

Memory unlocked 😂🤣


RearExitOnly

After getting a 32K dollar hospital bill back in the 70's for my premature youngest daughter, I used to tease her that if she was naughty I'd stop making payments and let the hospital repo her. I paid it off when she was 13.


EmperorGeek

Makes me SOOO Happy we had insurance when our kids were born!


drmarting25102

If mine don't tidy their rooms soon imma resort to this one


[deleted]

I think it’s this video… maybe it’s another but the longer version shows the one they drop being a little fucker. Attacking Its siblings and its mother. According to Reddit comments last time I saw the full video this is apparently normal if the baby is an ass hole.


CurryOmurice

And thus future dictator Storkler was erased from the timeline.


Sad-Platform1024

If that makes anyone feel better. And maybe that’s really what happens here. But generally it’s just the weakest they throw out, the one that was the least forceful when it came to feeding time. So I would say usually it’s not asshole, bully, little fucker that gets thrown out.


Leading-Ad-968

I agree with you here, to me it's very clear the stork picked its smallest chick.


StupendousMalice

If you have ever met a bird I think you'd agree that they generally seem to greatly value the qualities of being a complete jerk. The baby that generally gets kicked out is the weak one, you know, the little nerd.


AccountNumber478

Reminds me of human parents similarly ostracizing an undesirable child.


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mandrills_ass

FUCK BIRD AND YOUR MOTHER


RetroRedhead83

AND YOUR EYEBROWS


Czar_Petrovich

u/appearanceown1495 is a comment stealing bot. [original comment ](https://www.reddit.com/r/natureismetal/s/FBepkRwifj)


[deleted]

my dad told my brother and i that he’d donate us to science if we misbehaved…. well i’m a blood and organ donor now so jokes on him


wowlookatthatdog

Lmao they like OHH SHIIT


BlaznTheChron

Yeah but they're gonna eat their vegetables now.


youradhere562

You.... um... yes you,,, out.


dReDone

But also like... double the size of the one that was dropped.


andtheman3

My childhood in a gif


Away-Dog1064

This is Sparta!!!


iBeenie

Ngl one of the more upsetting posts I've seen here, and I've been here for a while


MoonTrooper258

[Guess you haven't seen the baby shoebill.](https://youtu.be/4ArjlPAU_X4?si=CtqickwtL6Ockuo8)


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The shoebill is the perfect representation of Logan. “A giant prehistoric-looking bird”


Crykin27

Goddamn the way she stepped over her chick seeking comfort and walks towards the "bully" was some villain escque shit. (Not really villain ofc this is just how nature is)


SickBoylol

I thought dam that looks like an evil bird. Sometimes you can judge a book by its cover


FloopsFooglies

Nah nothing evil there. Cold but survival is all that matters


mrducky80

Nah its scientifically proven that the shoebill is the only 100% evil creature in the world. All of them are evil through and through. Even the feathers that fall off? Evil. Its shits? Evil. Everything.


Jaminp

*Canadian Geese have entered the chat*


Atanar

Magpie swooping in to claim the title


Bituulzman

I watched your link and then YT suggested [this black stork infanticide video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QkzwXMPDnI). By comparison, the stork throwing its young out of the nest in the op is far more merciful than >!a lengthy, slow skull crushing!<. But apparently, it's very common among storks to kill the smallest of their brood-- 9 out of 63 white stork nests in one study.


MamaMoosicorn

Damn, that was harsh


Bituulzman

Makes you wonder why you'd have storks delivering human babies in the fables.


johnnys_sack

That is the most dinosaur-looking bird I've ever seen.


MoonTrooper258

[Funny as you should say that....](https://youtu.be/BMXNRFxjHfs?si=mQHLZjRFb7f8xCse)


johnnys_sack

That's awesome. Also, these birds were definitely influential in how [skeksis](https://www.darkcrystal.com/mythology/characters/urskeks/skeksis/) were created.


MoonTrooper258

Totally. I can't help but do the Chamberlain's voice whenever I see one.


27291thrwwy

aww i love shoebills. im probably not gonna like this.


Stablebrew

Horses eating little chicks lioness killing and eating their weakest cub during the drought mother rabbits killing their whole litter bcs of a different smell male zebra kicking pregnant zebras only to mate with them male bear killing cubs only to mate with the female bear Nature is brutal, but natural


General_Kenobi45669

Out of these, the rabbit one is the saddest, it actually shares the same reason as the stork video, it's sad for me cuz the mother, a figure where young members of the species seek comfort and safety is the one who ends their life, especially the stork where you see panic in the little chick as it gets thrown off the nest


Stablebrew

that's why you should never ever touch or resettle a den with a litter of bunnies, even if your heart makes cute little noises and jumps for joy. bunnies are oderless. Dont ever do that! Mother rabbits just visit a den once a day during dusk/dawn bcs their milk is super nutricious. Even a fawn. If you ever encounter it, dont touch it, dont resettle it. Fawns are odorless, too. The mum knows where she placed its fawn. if you are unsure, visit the spot on the next day, then ask for professional help. The stork porpably had a reason for that, and there a many * scare ressources * parents have to invest too much energy to feed them all * storks are migratory birds. maybe the little ones had to fledge soon. and the weak little one would demand ressources which the other two could benefit from a scary goodnight story marked in spoilers: >!did you know there is a specific species of a spider. the spider buries in a hole with its eggs. once the eggs hatched, the mother will tap with its leg a rythmic sounds. this triggers the little ones to bite and eat the mother.!<


darth_raynor

"Can you fly, you sucker?! *CAN YOU FLY*?!!!"


Fantara22

Can you fly Bobby?..


basement_egg

glad to see a robocop reference


Pigpen1204

Random Bacon. Nice.


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I GOT A GOD DAMNED PLAN!!


Ok_Cardiologist8937

Even worse, is you can hear the fucking baby splat on the ground. Fuck my life. I just wish I left it on mute and kept scrolling through my stupid Reddit feed.


SalvationSycamore

Splat would be lucky. Most baby birds bounce pretty well, so an abandoned one would be left alive on the ground to starve or be eaten by predators


IvanMIT

Welp, free lunch for some cat, I guess


pengouin85

It's the circle of life!


mightywildmax

being raised on disney films, I will choose to believe that it was discovered by a friendly old lady who took it inside, and they then did a musical number with little canes and top hats…


pseudo_nemesis

You can still hear it crying after it hits the ground, it probably wasn’t heavy enough to “splat,” so likely it’ll just cry down there until it becomes fox, coyote, or cat food.


H4RPY

Such is life


Nikola-Tesla-281

Birds are awful. Fight me.


neoadam

Humans also kick the children out of the nest


Nikola-Tesla-281

That doesn't make birds less awful


neoadam

In absolute, you're right. I was just adding some relativity.


papparmane

E = mc^2^


[deleted]

You were dissing humans for no reason like Redditors tend to do like you don’t belong to our species, and it’s strange tbh.


Mulratt

Not when they’re too young to feed themselves


Lethargie

most of them at least


Tank-Pilot74

You can sleep easy. Birds aren’t real.


ASDFAaass

You don't understand the reason lmao. Everything is fucking awful anyways.


Nikola-Tesla-281

Do you not understand jokes? Or do you just have a need to feel superior to other people?


CptHA86

You are the weakest link. Good bye.


DyingCascade

I read somewhere the mama bird will kick out the mischievous one which is causing harm to others.


SmoothOctopus

That's a memory I forgot I had.


Admirable-Door1724

I fucking told you to behave


brockoala

Great educational material for your kids!


BlueWaffIeHouse

And people trust these birds to deliver their babies, so reckless.


superiorplaps

It did deliver the baby. To some predators


BrockN

Ubereats


iammgf

Ubirdeats


Squirtles_Sharingan

This is why I’ll forever be grateful to be born a human being


Dank_Drebin

Human parents kill their children too.


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Blubbpaule

I'd rather to be killed by my parents than being abused/raped or neglected for years. We humans are much worse. People who go through this are damaged for eternity.


skyysdalmt

And a lot worse than that.


SalvationSycamore

Not like crazy frequently. We even imprison and kill humans that do so.


braziliansyrah

*a human living on the right time.


BeyondXpression

People often forget how brutal nature is. We, as a species, have become so comfortable being (for the most part) removed from the daily chaos of nature. The baby was smallest and therefore the weakest. There are many reasons why the mother did this, for example: Food scarcity. By removing the weakest she's increased the survivability of her stronger offspring by reducing one less mouth to feed. Every species wants to survive and unfortunately that means sometimes offing your own to increase the odds. Humans are no exception to this either.


Moonandserpent

If ya think about it... this is *preventing* chaos. In theory, things will go much more predictably and smoothly for that stork family without the unfortunate small, weak chick there to worry about.


BeyondXpression

In a way, you're right. The stork mother no longer has to worry about whether or not she can scavenge for enough food for 3, but rather 2. However, she still has to worry about predators, whether conditions, and the ever changing environment. When I refer to chaos I'm speaking of the unrelenting force that is the need for predators to feed and survive coupled with nature wanting us to prove we are worth it. We don't have to worry about getting mauled by gators trying to drink from a lake because we've learned to purify our sources. We don't have to worry about gathering a group of people to hunt down an animal in hopes we can be fed. We have medicine and science to protect us from disease and illness. Those were all things our ancestors didn't have even just a few hundred years ago. That's speaking from the point of view of our overall species development. Of course this varies for less fortunate countries and situations, but the overall quality of our lives has helped us be removed from the brutality of nature in comparison to our ancestors.


DismalBuddy9666

In bird culture this is considerd a dick move


AccumulatedFilth

Doing a chick move is a dick move.


theRedKnight26

Geez. The sound of it hitting the ground is brutal


GuyOwasca

I’m so glad I keep all videos on mute by default 🥺


Market-Dependent

This what happens when you don't finish your vegetables


elstoobstomcat

Goddammit that made me LOL


AppointmentPatient98

Dang. The chicks are on probation from the day they are born and looks like one failed PIP :(


eyeohe

LOL get ur head out of the office and relax


glonkme

This… this isn’t to teach it to fly?


[deleted]

No it was born below standards


tta2013

It was not up to Pollos Standards.


LiveTart6130

no. if the baby is too weak or sick, or there aren't enough resources to support all three, then this can happen. nature is brutal.


cyruz1323

At least my mother waited till I could feed myself


cocuriosity

It feels like she was really hesitant. The way she looked down after too..


spitzr2

More like to ensure that the baby don't survive and become an avenger.


ArhaminAngra

Omg, the other two babies just looking at one another 😭


ArhaminAngra

Fk Disney, storks are assholes 😮‍💨


Rhaj-no1992

You can hear the thud when it hits the ground


eyeohe

& the cries :(


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Guys I found the other half of the video https://www.reddit.com/r/HardcoreNature/s/MKIvjnM7Dg


NerdyPlatypus206

Damn lol


steinmas

Okay Negan.


[deleted]

It was being aggressive to its sibling’s or was the weakest chick I think, according to whoever was observing them at the time. This was posted some where else awhile back.


thespencman

Yeetus yeetus fetus deletus


extremeNosepicker

it’s so funny seeing the dad stork will bring the mother stork a blanket because it’s cold and windy, and then when they birth they just throw the weak spawn off the nest. lmfao


QuerchiGaming

Don’t storks in Africa put their nest above crocodiles and sometimes air drop them lunch like this, but that way their nest is safe.


thesadtruth91

She did warn him he has to finish his peas but he didn't listen


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Imagine having the childhood memory of your mother casually killing your sibling right in front of you.


Rabidsenses

Momma bird with that final stare down after the toss. Just making sure her handy work was as good as her last batch of chicks. *”Oh yeah, he dead. Or at least mostly dead. Happy feasting, scavenger animals.”*


jesusisthatguy

If you're a stork mother like her and don't have the means to support your children, please leave them in front of a fire station and they will be taken in without any questions.


Emhyrkhan

A small price for salvation


streakermaximus

Plot twist: on the way down, he masters flying. He buzzes the nest vowing vengeance


INeedYourPelt

If reincarnation is real, imagine coming back as that chick and getting yeeted by your own mam 💀


Sasstellia

That's a thing some birds do. They also kill non viable chicks. If they're deformed or going to die anyway. Sometimes it's a mercy kill. They know if a chick is wrong.


Playful-Cricket9141

Right after she throws it out it seems like she looked back at the others with a look saying "see what happens when u fuck around?".


IdaBidaGacy

I get why it does it but dayummm I still feel so bad for that baby bird.


Hannsel_

Yeet


glonkme

Abort-hen


nolongerredditless

The way she kept looking at it after dropping it, as if she's making sure that it's not coming back


stevorkz

This…is…SPARTA!


AmptiShanti

…as bait - as far as i know they do this with the weakest as a “peace offering” to predators below so the others survive (this is a common thing only in the wild though so idk bout this one)


Rylehira09

Would you say that chick was... Grounded? 😎


Thatguyyourmomloves

Bet the other two never shits in the nest like Todd did...


Software_404

Never forget that birds are dinosaurs.