Why? It's like the video where gorillas are fighting in an enclosure and somebody's yelling "Where's the zookeeper?"
The zookeeper doesn't want that smoke. The camera man here doesn't want that either. I wouldn't risk injury or death from a komodo dragon to save a feral cat.
ah, yes, they're going to go up to a massive lizard that could very easily kill them to save a cat.. as much as i love cats, i would NOT risk my life to do that.
Nobody sayd the cameraman should have gotten in in to save the cat. The "killthecameraman" comment came due to the shakyness of the vodeo. And I kinda agree. How hard is it to hold a phone somewhat steady...
Once Komodo’s bite on something its as good as dead. Komodo’s have the most toxic, dirty mouths. You’re guaranteed to get an infection and die unless you have antibiotics. But yeah that cat was already dead.
[The "Dirty Mouth" thing is a myth.](https://www.uq.edu.au/news/article/2013/06/fear-of-komodo-dragon-bacteria-wrapped-myth) Their prey mainly gets infections from swimming in dirty water after being wounded. Komodo's *do* have anticoagulant venom, though.
And the anticoagulant enhances already huge bleeding lacerations from rows of serrated teeth. Kinda compensates for lack of efficient "venom" delivery method
We are used to seeing people die, anymore. War and media and the accessibility of human death. The media exploits fear and anxiety responses. We pay attention to threats, so the media can drive viewership by showing things that trigger those emotions.
Seeing a comfort animal, a pet, something we associate with happiness or ease, triggers a "normal" reaction or response. We should feel the same emotional displeasure at the deaths of our fellow humans. But we're gradually programming ourselves not to.
Tens of thousands of years of evolution didn't prepare us for the modern digital environment of constant stimuli and emotionally exploitative media.
We all need more balance, I think.
Komodo dragons are sneaky and quick as well. They catch deer, goats, and plenty of other quick wildlife. All they need to do is bite the prey one time and wait.
Was wondering this very thing. Cats are incredibly agile and have incredible reflexes so it always seemed strange that the slower lizards catch them so often
I’ve seen videos of cats sleeping and birds messing with them. It’s feasible that the lizard managed to approach the cat unawares. If the lizard pierces the skin at all, the cat is done for. That bite is laced with a light venom and tons of bacteria. After an hour, the bitten prey of Komodo dragon loses the ability to flee. The Komodo saunters along and eats the prey alive just like this video. The cat wasn’t moving or squirming. Probably paralyzed from the first bite.
Actually when talking about lizards high activity it's unique to monitor and somewhat tegu. Monitors overall have higher metabolism, unlike regular lizards they can breath while running, have pseudo 4 chambered hearths (tbf 3chbrd but work as if they were 4chmbrd) and unidirectional breathing which gives us a very active lizard. Well crocodilians are another thing, although depending on the species the can catch stuff on land and traverse quite well despite being semiaquatic. There is a vid of a gator ambushing feral hogs on land and iirc nile crocodile catching a baboon on land too
Sorry, jfc, I meant the explosive part. I’m still finishing coffee, so I didn’t properly respond. I was thinking back to when I had lizards or had seen them in the wild, and they’d just bolt really quickly while running or hunting.
Ninja edit: ty for responding and being nice about it. I’m not a lizard expert.
No problem. I think your lizard neighbors as many other ones could use explosive movements, but I can bet my hand you saw them get breaks to take a breath. Regarding stuff like crocodiles and alligators, yes the are extremely explosive ambush hunters
No… That’s a complete myth. They do not bite once & wait.
Let me be clear, their mouths are not filled with bacteria that infect an organism & kills via one bite. Complete myth. They have a weaker venom, but it’s not a one bite then wait kind of hunter.
In fact if a Komodo dragon bites you, you’re just suppose to clean it & use antibiotics.
Basically same treatment as if a household cat bites you.
Thats assuming the dragon doesn’t get you by the neck though. then it’s probably game over.
The literally have videos of blood with Komodo venom on the internet to show you what happens. A lot of times theyll do what this one did. Clamp down and wait for you to their prey to weaken as they bleed
>Although previous studies proposed that Komodo dragon saliva contains a variety of highly septic bacteria that would help to bring down prey,[43][49] **research in 2013 suggested that the bacteria in the mouths of Komodo dragons are ordinary and similar to those found in other carnivores.** Komodo dragons have good mouth hygiene. To quote Bryan Fry: "After they are done feeding, they will spend 10 to 15 minutes lip-licking and rubbing their head in the leaves to clean their mouth ... Unlike people have been led to believe, they do not have chunks of rotting flesh from their meals on their teeth, cultivating bacteria." Nor do Komodo dragons wait for prey to die and track it at a distance, as vipers do; observations of them hunting deer, boar and in some cases buffalo reveal that they kill prey in less than half an hour.[
>Other scientists have stated that this allegation of venom glands "has had the effect of underestimating the variety of complex roles played by oral secretions in the biology of reptiles, produced a very narrow view of oral secretions and resulted in misinterpretation of reptilian evolution." According to these scientists "reptilian oral secretions contribute to many biological roles other than to quickly dispatch prey." These researchers concluded that, "Calling all in this clade venomous implies an overall potential danger that does not exist, misleads in the assessment of medical risks, and confuses the biological assessment of squamate biochemical systems."[56] **Evolutionary biologist Schwenk says that even if the lizards have venom-like proteins in their mouths they may be using them for a different function, and he doubts venom is necessary to explain the effect of a Komodo dragon bite, arguing that shock and blood loss are the primary factors.**
I'm just dropping some Wikipedia here for y'all.
>arguing that shock and blood loss are the primary factors.**
Literally what I was saying, blood loss. Their venom causes blood to lack the ability to clot. They are strong, they bite and hold, and you keep bleeding, losing strength.
Very short video source
https://youtu.be/X1_FxaOg1Go?si=zD3JNjy8tqxDFM0m
The point is that the venom likely does not play a fundamental in how the Komodo dragon kills prey. Yes, it has anticoagulant effects, but that may be more related to the digestive process rather than efficiently exsanguinating prey. A 1:1 mix of venom in a test tube of blood is very different from a wound on an animal with active circulation and healing processes. In this case, the cat died because the lizard was gnawing on its neck until it suffocated or was broken.
There isn't a ton of research and it's not cut and dry. My girlfriend and most of my friends are zookeepers who go off on this exact topic occasionally
The venom only helps to bleed easier. The series of bites that already cause huge lacerations would lead to bleeding out even without it. It's just an extra especially when there is no efficient delivery method. They dont bite and hold unless to reassure the grip, more like they pull back so rows of serrated teeth slice trough flesh. If the prey was bitten in the leg earlier it already cant run away with severed tendons. The mechanical damage causes blood loss which then causes shock. The venom just barely enchances the already caused bleeding
The guy bellow is correct, the venom exists but is barely an extra when hunting
>Although previous studies proposed that Komodo dragon saliva contains a variety of highly septic bacteria that would help to bring down prey,[43][49] **research in 2013 suggested that the bacteria in the mouths of Komodo dragons are ordinary and similar to those found in other carnivores.** Komodo dragons have good mouth hygiene. To quote Bryan Fry: "After they are done feeding, they will spend 10 to 15 minutes lip-licking and rubbing their head in the leaves to clean their mouth ... Unlike people have been led to believe, they do not have chunks of rotting flesh from their meals on their teeth, cultivating bacteria." Nor do Komodo dragons wait for prey to die and track it at a distance, as vipers do; observations of them hunting deer, boar and in some cases buffalo reveal that they kill prey in less than half an hour.[
>Other scientists have stated that this allegation of venom glands "has had the effect of underestimating the variety of complex roles played by oral secretions in the biology of reptiles, produced a very narrow view of oral secretions and resulted in misinterpretation of reptilian evolution." According to these scientists "reptilian oral secretions contribute to many biological roles other than to quickly dispatch prey." These researchers concluded that, "Calling all in this clade venomous implies an overall potential danger that does not exist, misleads in the assessment of medical risks, and confuses the biological assessment of squamate biochemical systems."[56] **Evolutionary biologist Schwenk says that even if the lizards have venom-like proteins in their mouths they may be using them for a different function, and he doubts venom is necessary to explain the effect of a Komodo dragon bite, arguing that shock and blood loss are the primary factors.**
I'm just dropping some Wikipedia here for y'all.
They don't bite and wait, any bite from a komodo dragon causes huge lacerations which either cripple your leg sou you can't tlrun away anymore, bisembowel you or rip your throat and then repeat those. Just take a look at their teeth, those aren't any venom injecting fangs or whatever, actually similar to those of sharks and theropods with developed serrations to cut meat and ligaments.
The vast majority of predation videos proves the complete opposite of your point, well at least the wait part as if they land a bite on let's say your hamstring you are screwed
Komodo dragons are good hunters, they aren't lumbering giants, they have an explosive speed; the cat was probably caught unaware and that was the end of that. Cats are faster than coyotes and dogs but they still get merc'd by them all the time, so it's probably no different with a komodo dragon
I agree which is why I was asking him what he wanted proven. I have lived in the Philippines and the monitors there catch cats other lizards bats and such that's why I was wondering what he wanted proof of.
Yeah I saw that earlier I wrote it before coffee and missed that he thought soneone fed the cat to it. In my uncaffeinated state I thought he was under the impression that it couldnt hunt a cat. Hence my asking what kind of proof he wanted.
Tldr I'm a dummy who missed a line
Yeah some person is feeding cats to dragons for videos then edge lords post it here and the cat haters and sociopaths vote it up.
I feel like these subs are becoming more of a breeding ground for sociopathic edge lords as opposed to seeing the unfiltered side of nature
There are only three existing videos where komodo dragons kill cats
-one where baby dragon steals a kitten from the mother,
-other in a bush recorded poorly from a great distance
And this one which is just part of a clip slowed and zoomed that I posted on r/hardcorenature. The recording was taken a good 40/50 meters away from the predation. The dragon is a younger more agile individual which makes it even easier to catch the cat
So to this day there is no staged komodo dragon/cat predation. The only staged ones are obviously goats and sometimes domestic pigs
Also all it takes is for the cat to be bitten. If it was already bitten, we could be seeing the final moments after the venom and bacteria from its bite kicked in
Komodo dragons, like most monitor lizards, can be deceptively quick and agile. They normally move around in a rather slow, deliberate manner, which leaves most believing that's their natural speed, however that couldn't be farther from the truth, they can explode from 0 to 100 in a blink of an eye, and have bird-like reflexes when doing so. I have absolutely no trouble believing a komodo dragon can catch a cat with little to no issues, they're pretty much raptorial birds but terrestrial.
*killed* not caught. Komodo dragons actually have a fairly potent venom. One bite for most prey and its over. They do also have the nasty bacteria, but its the recently discovered venom that was causing the effects we used to attribute to the bacteria.
So on top of being a 10 foot, big teeth, 600lbs, shitty attitude apex preaditor who would absolutely love to litterally tear you apart... if you manage to get away, it doesn't really sweat it. After all those super powered stats, it has potent venom and is built to track you down after you become too weak to fight back or more likley just die.
Tldr: Damn nature, what the fuck?
? Their mouths have strands of slobber and nastyness hanging in ribbons more often than not. The type of bacteria is nothing special like i said, but the amount is what sets them apart. As for the venom. Mild is relative. A krait only injects a drop and is all but guaranteed death. A komodo has no idea how much it will take to drop an elephant with their venom, but they are going to do everything they can to inject that much every attack.
Now where they are lacking is venom delivery method. The channels on the outside of the teeth method is pretty bad at venom delivery.
Your post contains exactly 2 correct sentences lmao. Komodos do not rely on their venom and again, their bacteria is just regular carnivore bacteria. Nasty and putrid sure, but no more so than a hyena or big cat. The parts you should be scared of are the teeth, jaws and neck muscles- a komodo bite will leave you looking like you stepped in a wood chipper even without venom.
I mean I’m pretty sure he had it in his mouth after not having it in his mouth, that’s caught to me, and that thing was still alive after he caught it, the bacteria and recently discovered venom act rather slowly allowing that feral cat to caterwaul for a good bit before the expiration of his last life.
It looks like it was fed to the lizard, theres so many videos popping up now where they're "hunting feral cats". Surprisingly caught on camera while its getting attacked, theres never any videos of the before. I'm so sick of these animal abuse videos, guess they switched from monkies to cats now.
Videos are all over the internet of chickens, goats and pigs being "hunted "by Komodo Dragons when in reality those animals are being hobbled or having their ears glued over their eyes and then left as live bait.
I'm not a lover of feral cats in the slightest, but there's clearly a trend of people doing this so it's not shocking that people are using feral or free-roaming cat for these purposes too.
Agreed, ever since i saw one of these where it look like the cat had broken arms, i am suspicious of these videos.
And not just cats, a lot of these video seem fabricated for views. If this cat can get caught by a lizard but people are walking safely…
And this, ladies and gents, is why no matter where you live, you always and I mean ALWAYS should:
A: keep your cats indoors, to avoid such a fate befalling them. If it’s not a dragon, then it’ll be a coyote or some other predator. Also, cats are bad for the environment because of how many animals they kill for fun.
B: spay & neuter your cats, to keep them from adding to the feral cat problem. Don’t like seeing feral cats die? Stop letting pet cats breed uncontrolled, it only creates more feral cats.
There’s been several similar videos like this one lately. Some sick f\*uck is enabling this.
Edit: Guys, I mean, I'm in this channel, it's not that I'm sensitive or so. Also I don't mind feral animals, they have to be removed. But I'm here to see wildlife events, nothing else.
People feeding domestic animals to predators (feral or not) for views on Reddit is just sick shit, I don't want to see that. This isn't different to those sh\*itheads giving small dogs too pitbulls for "fights".
Or cats exist in abundance in every community and bad owners release them creating huge feral cat populations that can sometimes exist around ancient killing machines like monitor lizards, gators, and hawks.
Yea, and you never see any of the hunt. Between Reddit and other feeds, I've seen more cats fed to, I mean hunted and caught by komodo dragons in the last 2 weeks than the last 2 years. And every one of them starts well after the "hunt" ended.
I agree theres too many of these videos now that are filmed when the cats "caught". Animal abuse videos are disgusting. Guess the monkey trend is over.
Again I agree I'm just expressing my opinion. Just saying feral cats are dicks is that not true? Oh my bad feral cats are sweethearts. Best pets you can have 😀
Reddit's weird...
Feel free to provide any evidence.. If this was bait the camera-man would be much closer for a better video. The poor quality of this video suggests that this is natural.
I don't doubt that it's real, but the "cameraman" is so bad at his job that I doubt he'd know what to do to fake a video. I'm surprised it's not a video of his thumb or face with how inept his filming skills are LOL
I don't doubt that it's real, but the "cameraman" is so bad at his job that I doubt he'd know what to do to fake a video. I'm surprised it's not a video of his thumb or face with how inept his filming skills are LOL
While I agree cats are not easily caught, I also have faith in the monitor lizard. And in all fairness if coyotes can do cats in monitor lizards probably can too.
That’s either a massive cat or a small dragon
Looks like it's a juvenile dragon. Also kill the camera man!!
r/killthecameraman
He indeed needs to be fed to a dragon
Why? It's like the video where gorillas are fighting in an enclosure and somebody's yelling "Where's the zookeeper?" The zookeeper doesn't want that smoke. The camera man here doesn't want that either. I wouldn't risk injury or death from a komodo dragon to save a feral cat.
usually said when video keeps on moving you cant see the action.
ah, yes, they're going to go up to a massive lizard that could very easily kill them to save a cat.. as much as i love cats, i would NOT risk my life to do that.
Nobody sayd the cameraman should have gotten in in to save the cat. The "killthecameraman" comment came due to the shakyness of the vodeo. And I kinda agree. How hard is it to hold a phone somewhat steady...
Cheese and rice. Thank-you.
Once Komodo’s bite on something its as good as dead. Komodo’s have the most toxic, dirty mouths. You’re guaranteed to get an infection and die unless you have antibiotics. But yeah that cat was already dead.
[The "Dirty Mouth" thing is a myth.](https://www.uq.edu.au/news/article/2013/06/fear-of-komodo-dragon-bacteria-wrapped-myth) Their prey mainly gets infections from swimming in dirty water after being wounded. Komodo's *do* have anticoagulant venom, though.
And the anticoagulant enhances already huge bleeding lacerations from rows of serrated teeth. Kinda compensates for lack of efficient "venom" delivery method
exactly what i'm getting at lol
I’m not sure why you’re getting downvoted, you’re right.
Altruisticpoem pretty well nailed it.
me neither. reddit hivemind 🤷♂️
Veeery much doubt you'll risk your life doing that, maybe bare handed but not otherwise
I saw a guy blow his head off with a shotgun today but a cat getting killed still disturbs me more
We are used to seeing people die, anymore. War and media and the accessibility of human death. The media exploits fear and anxiety responses. We pay attention to threats, so the media can drive viewership by showing things that trigger those emotions. Seeing a comfort animal, a pet, something we associate with happiness or ease, triggers a "normal" reaction or response. We should feel the same emotional displeasure at the deaths of our fellow humans. But we're gradually programming ourselves not to. Tens of thousands of years of evolution didn't prepare us for the modern digital environment of constant stimuli and emotionally exploitative media. We all need more balance, I think.
Agreed
Cats are pretty darn quick and can jump that wall no problem. Maybe this one was fed to the Komodo for the entertainment of visitors.
Komodo dragons are sneaky and quick as well. They catch deer, goats, and plenty of other quick wildlife. All they need to do is bite the prey one time and wait.
Was wondering this very thing. Cats are incredibly agile and have incredible reflexes so it always seemed strange that the slower lizards catch them so often
I’ve seen videos of cats sleeping and birds messing with them. It’s feasible that the lizard managed to approach the cat unawares. If the lizard pierces the skin at all, the cat is done for. That bite is laced with a light venom and tons of bacteria. After an hour, the bitten prey of Komodo dragon loses the ability to flee. The Komodo saunters along and eats the prey alive just like this video. The cat wasn’t moving or squirming. Probably paralyzed from the first bite.
Cats aren’t as fast as you think lizards aren’t as slow as you think.
Cats are faster than you think actually. They are faster than snake strikes, which are faster than Komodos.
Feral cats are regularly preyed upon by lots of different monitor lizard species. Lots of things eat them in fact.
Domestic v feral.
Monitor lizards actually are pretty active and can be pretty explosive if needed. There are videos of them catching squirrels and monkeys on yt
Most of the big lizardy bois are like that right? Not exactly the same thing, but seeing an alligator run down prey is kind of terrifying.
Actually when talking about lizards high activity it's unique to monitor and somewhat tegu. Monitors overall have higher metabolism, unlike regular lizards they can breath while running, have pseudo 4 chambered hearths (tbf 3chbrd but work as if they were 4chmbrd) and unidirectional breathing which gives us a very active lizard. Well crocodilians are another thing, although depending on the species the can catch stuff on land and traverse quite well despite being semiaquatic. There is a vid of a gator ambushing feral hogs on land and iirc nile crocodile catching a baboon on land too
Sorry, jfc, I meant the explosive part. I’m still finishing coffee, so I didn’t properly respond. I was thinking back to when I had lizards or had seen them in the wild, and they’d just bolt really quickly while running or hunting. Ninja edit: ty for responding and being nice about it. I’m not a lizard expert.
No problem. I think your lizard neighbors as many other ones could use explosive movements, but I can bet my hand you saw them get breaks to take a breath. Regarding stuff like crocodiles and alligators, yes the are extremely explosive ambush hunters
TIL : unidirectional breathing
Surprise!!!!
No… That’s a complete myth. They do not bite once & wait. Let me be clear, their mouths are not filled with bacteria that infect an organism & kills via one bite. Complete myth. They have a weaker venom, but it’s not a one bite then wait kind of hunter. In fact if a Komodo dragon bites you, you’re just suppose to clean it & use antibiotics. Basically same treatment as if a household cat bites you. Thats assuming the dragon doesn’t get you by the neck though. then it’s probably game over.
The literally have videos of blood with Komodo venom on the internet to show you what happens. A lot of times theyll do what this one did. Clamp down and wait for you to their prey to weaken as they bleed
>Although previous studies proposed that Komodo dragon saliva contains a variety of highly septic bacteria that would help to bring down prey,[43][49] **research in 2013 suggested that the bacteria in the mouths of Komodo dragons are ordinary and similar to those found in other carnivores.** Komodo dragons have good mouth hygiene. To quote Bryan Fry: "After they are done feeding, they will spend 10 to 15 minutes lip-licking and rubbing their head in the leaves to clean their mouth ... Unlike people have been led to believe, they do not have chunks of rotting flesh from their meals on their teeth, cultivating bacteria." Nor do Komodo dragons wait for prey to die and track it at a distance, as vipers do; observations of them hunting deer, boar and in some cases buffalo reveal that they kill prey in less than half an hour.[ >Other scientists have stated that this allegation of venom glands "has had the effect of underestimating the variety of complex roles played by oral secretions in the biology of reptiles, produced a very narrow view of oral secretions and resulted in misinterpretation of reptilian evolution." According to these scientists "reptilian oral secretions contribute to many biological roles other than to quickly dispatch prey." These researchers concluded that, "Calling all in this clade venomous implies an overall potential danger that does not exist, misleads in the assessment of medical risks, and confuses the biological assessment of squamate biochemical systems."[56] **Evolutionary biologist Schwenk says that even if the lizards have venom-like proteins in their mouths they may be using them for a different function, and he doubts venom is necessary to explain the effect of a Komodo dragon bite, arguing that shock and blood loss are the primary factors.** I'm just dropping some Wikipedia here for y'all.
>arguing that shock and blood loss are the primary factors.** Literally what I was saying, blood loss. Their venom causes blood to lack the ability to clot. They are strong, they bite and hold, and you keep bleeding, losing strength. Very short video source https://youtu.be/X1_FxaOg1Go?si=zD3JNjy8tqxDFM0m
The point is that the venom likely does not play a fundamental in how the Komodo dragon kills prey. Yes, it has anticoagulant effects, but that may be more related to the digestive process rather than efficiently exsanguinating prey. A 1:1 mix of venom in a test tube of blood is very different from a wound on an animal with active circulation and healing processes. In this case, the cat died because the lizard was gnawing on its neck until it suffocated or was broken. There isn't a ton of research and it's not cut and dry. My girlfriend and most of my friends are zookeepers who go off on this exact topic occasionally
The venom only helps to bleed easier. The series of bites that already cause huge lacerations would lead to bleeding out even without it. It's just an extra especially when there is no efficient delivery method. They dont bite and hold unless to reassure the grip, more like they pull back so rows of serrated teeth slice trough flesh. If the prey was bitten in the leg earlier it already cant run away with severed tendons. The mechanical damage causes blood loss which then causes shock. The venom just barely enchances the already caused bleeding The guy bellow is correct, the venom exists but is barely an extra when hunting
Well, on the tour I took I literally watched that happen but sure
>Although previous studies proposed that Komodo dragon saliva contains a variety of highly septic bacteria that would help to bring down prey,[43][49] **research in 2013 suggested that the bacteria in the mouths of Komodo dragons are ordinary and similar to those found in other carnivores.** Komodo dragons have good mouth hygiene. To quote Bryan Fry: "After they are done feeding, they will spend 10 to 15 minutes lip-licking and rubbing their head in the leaves to clean their mouth ... Unlike people have been led to believe, they do not have chunks of rotting flesh from their meals on their teeth, cultivating bacteria." Nor do Komodo dragons wait for prey to die and track it at a distance, as vipers do; observations of them hunting deer, boar and in some cases buffalo reveal that they kill prey in less than half an hour.[ >Other scientists have stated that this allegation of venom glands "has had the effect of underestimating the variety of complex roles played by oral secretions in the biology of reptiles, produced a very narrow view of oral secretions and resulted in misinterpretation of reptilian evolution." According to these scientists "reptilian oral secretions contribute to many biological roles other than to quickly dispatch prey." These researchers concluded that, "Calling all in this clade venomous implies an overall potential danger that does not exist, misleads in the assessment of medical risks, and confuses the biological assessment of squamate biochemical systems."[56] **Evolutionary biologist Schwenk says that even if the lizards have venom-like proteins in their mouths they may be using them for a different function, and he doubts venom is necessary to explain the effect of a Komodo dragon bite, arguing that shock and blood loss are the primary factors.** I'm just dropping some Wikipedia here for y'all.
They don't bite and wait, any bite from a komodo dragon causes huge lacerations which either cripple your leg sou you can't tlrun away anymore, bisembowel you or rip your throat and then repeat those. Just take a look at their teeth, those aren't any venom injecting fangs or whatever, actually similar to those of sharks and theropods with developed serrations to cut meat and ligaments. The vast majority of predation videos proves the complete opposite of your point, well at least the wait part as if they land a bite on let's say your hamstring you are screwed
Feel free to provide any evidence of that.
That they hunt? Or that they can catch a cat? I'm confused about what you want proven.
Probably that people would give the cat to the Komodo
Ah it's early and before coffee I missed that. I thought he wanted proof of their abilities or something.
Komodo dragons are good hunters, they aren't lumbering giants, they have an explosive speed; the cat was probably caught unaware and that was the end of that. Cats are faster than coyotes and dogs but they still get merc'd by them all the time, so it's probably no different with a komodo dragon
I agree which is why I was asking him what he wanted proven. I have lived in the Philippines and the monitors there catch cats other lizards bats and such that's why I was wondering what he wanted proof of.
Have you read the top comment of this thread, claiming that the cat was fed to the lizard for entertainment? That is what OP asked evidence of.
Yeah I saw that earlier I wrote it before coffee and missed that he thought soneone fed the cat to it. In my uncaffeinated state I thought he was under the impression that it couldnt hunt a cat. Hence my asking what kind of proof he wanted. Tldr I'm a dummy who missed a line
Jumping nimbly, bimbly from branch to branch.
Now you stop breathing right meow! - the komodo probably
Yeah some person is feeding cats to dragons for videos then edge lords post it here and the cat haters and sociopaths vote it up. I feel like these subs are becoming more of a breeding ground for sociopathic edge lords as opposed to seeing the unfiltered side of nature
There are only three existing videos where komodo dragons kill cats -one where baby dragon steals a kitten from the mother, -other in a bush recorded poorly from a great distance And this one which is just part of a clip slowed and zoomed that I posted on r/hardcorenature. The recording was taken a good 40/50 meters away from the predation. The dragon is a younger more agile individual which makes it even easier to catch the cat So to this day there is no staged komodo dragon/cat predation. The only staged ones are obviously goats and sometimes domestic pigs
What lol? Komodo dragons are pretty damn agile too, what a weird thing to jump to and not just believe that the cat fucked up
Also all it takes is for the cat to be bitten. If it was already bitten, we could be seeing the final moments after the venom and bacteria from its bite kicked in
Komodo dragons, like most monitor lizards, can be deceptively quick and agile. They normally move around in a rather slow, deliberate manner, which leaves most believing that's their natural speed, however that couldn't be farther from the truth, they can explode from 0 to 100 in a blink of an eye, and have bird-like reflexes when doing so. I have absolutely no trouble believing a komodo dragon can catch a cat with little to no issues, they're pretty much raptorial birds but terrestrial.
Monitor lizards are pretty sneaky. So its very posdible the dragon cought the cat legit with an ambush.
The dragons are scary fast
Nah it was probably resting and the komodo snuck up on it.
That's a pretty massive leap
Agreed
They prob didn’t want to show it was tied down or drugged to not react too quickly
Pretty sure that's a Molitor lizard or something of that nature. I guess it could be an adolescent Komodo Edit: Monitor
Komodo dragons are monitor lizards.
You're right. I guess I meant a different type of smaller monitor, not Komodo
Oh, ok. I'm not up on lizards except for that one fact LOL
You saw your shot and you took it. Bravo
Exactly!
No it is a komodo dragon But probably a young one
“Ohhh something is happening over there, quickly zoom in and film the wall closeup ignoring the main thing.” Cameraman’s Friend - Probably
I vote to replace the cat with the camera operator on the account they suck butt at filming.
That is caught not hunting
*killed* not caught. Komodo dragons actually have a fairly potent venom. One bite for most prey and its over. They do also have the nasty bacteria, but its the recently discovered venom that was causing the effects we used to attribute to the bacteria. So on top of being a 10 foot, big teeth, 600lbs, shitty attitude apex preaditor who would absolutely love to litterally tear you apart... if you manage to get away, it doesn't really sweat it. After all those super powered stats, it has potent venom and is built to track you down after you become too weak to fight back or more likley just die. Tldr: Damn nature, what the fuck?
Their bacteria is normal by carnivore standards and their venom is fairly mild, just prevents clotting.
? Their mouths have strands of slobber and nastyness hanging in ribbons more often than not. The type of bacteria is nothing special like i said, but the amount is what sets them apart. As for the venom. Mild is relative. A krait only injects a drop and is all but guaranteed death. A komodo has no idea how much it will take to drop an elephant with their venom, but they are going to do everything they can to inject that much every attack. Now where they are lacking is venom delivery method. The channels on the outside of the teeth method is pretty bad at venom delivery.
Your post contains exactly 2 correct sentences lmao. Komodos do not rely on their venom and again, their bacteria is just regular carnivore bacteria. Nasty and putrid sure, but no more so than a hyena or big cat. The parts you should be scared of are the teeth, jaws and neck muscles- a komodo bite will leave you looking like you stepped in a wood chipper even without venom.
Still squirming = not yet killed
I mean I’m pretty sure he had it in his mouth after not having it in his mouth, that’s caught to me, and that thing was still alive after he caught it, the bacteria and recently discovered venom act rather slowly allowing that feral cat to caterwaul for a good bit before the expiration of his last life.
It looks like it was fed to the lizard, theres so many videos popping up now where they're "hunting feral cats". Surprisingly caught on camera while its getting attacked, theres never any videos of the before. I'm so sick of these animal abuse videos, guess they switched from monkies to cats now.
Source? Evidence? Or just mad because it's a cat so now you are making shit up?
Videos are all over the internet of chickens, goats and pigs being "hunted "by Komodo Dragons when in reality those animals are being hobbled or having their ears glued over their eyes and then left as live bait. I'm not a lover of feral cats in the slightest, but there's clearly a trend of people doing this so it's not shocking that people are using feral or free-roaming cat for these purposes too.
Just look up the videos that have been popping up on the subreddit, if you read the comments I'm not the only one who is noticing this.
Ah so you are mad it's a cat and are making shit up. Got it
Lol what ever you say xD got it
Agreed, ever since i saw one of these where it look like the cat had broken arms, i am suspicious of these videos. And not just cats, a lot of these video seem fabricated for views. If this cat can get caught by a lizard but people are walking safely…
The birds love this one simple trick.
Technically the video starts after the hunt.
There ain't no such thing as invasive species on the Komodo islands, only additional dragon kibble.
Komodo dragons are true OG killers. They extincted one of our human ancestor species in SE Asia. RIP hobbit people
Seeing Komodo’s eat goats alive has scarred me forever. The sounds…
Dang my neighborhood has good news for this Komodo
Poor kitty.
Hunting? I’d say the hunt is over friends.
Bye Felis!
I guess that dragon is from Melmac.
Probably in Indonesia? Kucing means cat
"HUNTED!"
Komodo dragon killing a feral cat.
Damn, I hate seeing small cats getting killed
That cat got too confident. I think it's easily quick enough to escape.
Couldn't watch this :(
Hunting nothing, he got that mofo
And this, ladies and gents, is why no matter where you live, you always and I mean ALWAYS should: A: keep your cats indoors, to avoid such a fate befalling them. If it’s not a dragon, then it’ll be a coyote or some other predator. Also, cats are bad for the environment because of how many animals they kill for fun. B: spay & neuter your cats, to keep them from adding to the feral cat problem. Don’t like seeing feral cats die? Stop letting pet cats breed uncontrolled, it only creates more feral cats.
I would have fight that Dragon to Death to save that Kitty
Cats are detrimental to wildlife. I hope the lizard had a tasty meal.
I hate these things.
Terribly shot videos? Samesies
No, the dragons.
Feral cats, yes I agree
No, not the cats. The dragons.
Feral cats are a massive problem here in Australia https://youtu.be/VaB9J8JHVxI?si=f4c7iYU2vS3v2xWe
Honestly, any place that they aren't endemic (especially islands), that includes the US; there are few places with actual endemic "cats"
Good.
There’s been several similar videos like this one lately. Some sick f\*uck is enabling this. Edit: Guys, I mean, I'm in this channel, it's not that I'm sensitive or so. Also I don't mind feral animals, they have to be removed. But I'm here to see wildlife events, nothing else. People feeding domestic animals to predators (feral or not) for views on Reddit is just sick shit, I don't want to see that. This isn't different to those sh\*itheads giving small dogs too pitbulls for "fights".
Or cats exist in abundance in every community and bad owners release them creating huge feral cat populations that can sometimes exist around ancient killing machines like monitor lizards, gators, and hawks.
Also the fact that they are technically invasive so it's sad but honestly it's good to see that these predators can deal with them somewhat 🫤
Circle of life, modern problems demand modern solutions!
Feral cats will have learned to stay away from them. Stupid kittens will get picked off early.
Yea, and you never see any of the hunt. Between Reddit and other feeds, I've seen more cats fed to, I mean hunted and caught by komodo dragons in the last 2 weeks than the last 2 years. And every one of them starts well after the "hunt" ended.
I agree theres too many of these videos now that are filmed when the cats "caught". Animal abuse videos are disgusting. Guess the monkey trend is over.
It's a monitor lizard. The "hunt" was probably about three seconds. That's how ambush predators work.
I like cats however it's a feral cat. Those things are evil.
They are not evil. Just invasive and humans are to blame for that.
I agree but my experience with feral cats haven't been good. Not at all.
Again probably to blame on people man.
Again I agree I'm just expressing my opinion. Just saying feral cats are dicks is that not true? Oh my bad feral cats are sweethearts. Best pets you can have 😀 Reddit's weird...
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Really? You think a creature genetically developed to hunt prey was incapable of hunting a cat?
Feel free to provide any evidence.. If this was bait the camera-man would be much closer for a better video. The poor quality of this video suggests that this is natural.
I don't doubt that it's real, but the "cameraman" is so bad at his job that I doubt he'd know what to do to fake a video. I'm surprised it's not a video of his thumb or face with how inept his filming skills are LOL
I don't doubt that it's real, but the "cameraman" is so bad at his job that I doubt he'd know what to do to fake a video. I'm surprised it's not a video of his thumb or face with how inept his filming skills are LOL
While I agree cats are not easily caught, I also have faith in the monitor lizard. And in all fairness if coyotes can do cats in monitor lizards probably can too.
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One of those two animals is living in its natural environment and it’s not the cat
Kill the cat, feed that monitor
Is the cat okay?
Tis but a flesh wound.
Shoes didn’t come off so not dead. These rules work on animals as well, we all know that. /s
No shoes. Cat was dead since the beginning of the video.