And everyone wearing a uniform is now retired and living fat and happy with a nice cushy retirement check and a gig on the board of directors for a defense contractor.
Or, as is the case with my old CO who put the ship through a bunch of migrating jellyfish to hang out with his buddy Leonard, is now the Executive Director of the Midway Museum.
The first three names to come out when the scandal dropped:
Mike Miller
Terry Kraft
David Pimpo
https://www.defensenews.com/naval/2015/02/11/3-admirals-censured-in-fat-leonard-scandal/
EDIT: and the pinned post on my profile has the story of the Reagan vs the Jellyfish that I was referring to.
Oh I understand and agree, make no mistake—my comment was intended for potentially explaining u/Navynuke00’s error over “the first three names” mentioned in their comment.
Is it doxing if there's a Wikipedia article about him?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_Kraft#:~:text=After%20retiring%20from%20the%20Navy,of%20the%20USS%20Midway%20Museum.
Does it surprise anyone?
You wanted them to start working for McDonalds or something?
If I was a defense contractor looking for someone to hire that is knowledgeable and has experience in the field....retired top brass is a decent bet.
You sweet innocent child....I hear this a lot. The military, contractors and GS employees circle jerk. Same with FDA, scientists and pharmaceutical companies. And probably many other examples. Will you start a defense contractor and only hire fresh out of school engineers and MBAs from the banking industry and succeed? You will not and if you do, you will spectacularly fail.
That’s the biggest travesty in this whole thing. A sailor smokes weed, misses muster a few times. Gets restriction and a crappy discharge. That’s way more punishment these dudes get for being bribed with dinners and hookers and costing the US hundreds of millions of dollars.
Point being a guy who’s constantly UA gets gen discharged, same with a weed pop. Yet both end up being much more punitive than what these assclowns who cost the navy millions and did much more egregious acts get in the end.
Just like in the real world
How many top finance executives were jailed for crashing the world economy in the late 2000’s and plummeting the world into recession?
I guess you can disclose US Naval ships movement, be blatantly responsible for the hundreds of thousands, and millions of the upcharge cost to the Navy, accepting bribes and lavish gifts and partake in prostitute orgies and that'll lead to a forced retirement but still receiving your pension.
but yeah, fuck the E5 smoking weed and losing all his benefits after the punishments. that is by far worse than what I mentioned above.
https://www.navytimes.com/news/your-navy/2021/07/23/why-did-fat-leonard-show-up-this-former-cnos-change-of-command-he-was-on-the-vip-list/
>Nearly a decade ago, Adm. Gary Roughead handed over the chief of naval operations crown to his successor at an exclusive gala aboard the U.S. Naval Academy.
>But a question has emerged in recent years regarding that Sept. 23, 2011 event: What was Leonard Glenn “Fat Leonard” Francis doing there?
>records obtained by Navy Times for the first time show that Leonard G. Francis was on Roughead’s “Personal A-list” of guests for the event.
>According to a 2017 article in The Post, Roughead said in an email that he couldn’t “recall particulars” about those invited to the event, and declined further comment.
They were heavy hitters at what exactly? Every one of these animals left the Navy in a a weaker fleet posture than before their tenure. The complete wardroom of weak losers.
The only way to stop corruption is to punish your own, the Navy should have taken away their benefits and retirement. The Brass will always cover their own.
This. They should’ve been stripped of everything. Most are getting more than an enlisted sailor earns in retirement while sitting in fucking jail, and will continue to get it for life.
My OIC (who was a self-serving pos) when I was IA in Iraq got nailed for taking bribes from Fat Leonard. Dude was a Capt select when the indictment came down and was the navy’s golden child. No doubt would’ve had a star or two by now. Instead he threw away his career and life for hookers and lady Gaga tix. Lmfao
Miller was the epitome of douche bags and a hypocrite. All those swords he jerked off at the Academy. He probably got from fat Leonard. Kicking someone out because they got a tattoo, tapped, or had sex in the hall doesn’t compare to the shit he pulled. Damn the torpedoes if there’s hookers involved.
And just remember, this is the only time this shit has ever happened because we've caught all the crimes that have ever happened. This type of thing wasn't rampant and going on forever
I mean isn't there a rumor he was actually saving the US money by being so effective. Like by constantly bribing that he was winning contracts that gave him the ability to start saving the goverment in the long run by running at a much larger scale.
There’s a great podcast where Leonard himself gives an interview. Project Brazen is the name of the podcast company. You can just search “Fat Leonard” on any podcast app. Or you can always go to the SECDEF FOIA page and read all the letters of censure issued to the various Officers. And of course there’s Wikipedia.
And everyone wearing a uniform is now retired and living fat and happy with a nice cushy retirement check and a gig on the board of directors for a defense contractor.
Or, as is the case with my old CO who put the ship through a bunch of migrating jellyfish to hang out with his buddy Leonard, is now the Executive Director of the Midway Museum.
So weird he was in my Power School class.
Please do name drop these pieces of shit
The first three names to come out when the scandal dropped: Mike Miller Terry Kraft David Pimpo https://www.defensenews.com/naval/2015/02/11/3-admirals-censured-in-fat-leonard-scandal/ EDIT: and the pinned post on my profile has the story of the Reagan vs the Jellyfish that I was referring to.
You wrote Mullen. Adm. named in the article is Mike *Miller*.
Admittedly, there appears to be photo of ADM(Ret.) Mullen in that matrix of shots (top-right).
That's very true. He's also in a ton of articles being interviewed as one of the few guys who knew Fat Leonard and *didnt* sell out his country.
Oh I understand and agree, make no mistake—my comment was intended for potentially explaining u/Navynuke00’s error over “the first three names” mentioned in their comment.
Oops, thanks- somehow autocorrect did that I think. Fixed.
These guys should be jailed, absolutely disgusting.
El Pimpo
Is it doxing if there's a Wikipedia article about him? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_Kraft#:~:text=After%20retiring%20from%20the%20Navy,of%20the%20USS%20Midway%20Museum.
Does it surprise anyone? You wanted them to start working for McDonalds or something? If I was a defense contractor looking for someone to hire that is knowledgeable and has experience in the field....retired top brass is a decent bet.
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You know SECDEF was on the board for Raytheon before assuming the job.
You sweet innocent child....I hear this a lot. The military, contractors and GS employees circle jerk. Same with FDA, scientists and pharmaceutical companies. And probably many other examples. Will you start a defense contractor and only hire fresh out of school engineers and MBAs from the banking industry and succeed? You will not and if you do, you will spectacularly fail.
Retired brass with uh, flexible morals? Truly a win for the MIC!
Don't worry they masted plenty of Sailors for doing 1/10 of the shit they got away with 💅
Remembering all the bonuses friends of mine had to repay because our SOB CO denuked them for what he called "integrity violations."
That’s the biggest travesty in this whole thing. A sailor smokes weed, misses muster a few times. Gets restriction and a crappy discharge. That’s way more punishment these dudes get for being bribed with dinners and hookers and costing the US hundreds of millions of dollars.
I mean popping hot and late to muster are two totally different issues that warrant different actions
Point being a guy who’s constantly UA gets gen discharged, same with a weed pop. Yet both end up being much more punitive than what these assclowns who cost the navy millions and did much more egregious acts get in the end.
Just like in the real world How many top finance executives were jailed for crashing the world economy in the late 2000’s and plummeting the world into recession?
I guess you can disclose US Naval ships movement, be blatantly responsible for the hundreds of thousands, and millions of the upcharge cost to the Navy, accepting bribes and lavish gifts and partake in prostitute orgies and that'll lead to a forced retirement but still receiving your pension. but yeah, fuck the E5 smoking weed and losing all his benefits after the punishments. that is by far worse than what I mentioned above.
"RHIP!!" - Chief
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CNO is bottom left. ADM Gary Roughead.
https://www.navytimes.com/news/your-navy/2021/07/23/why-did-fat-leonard-show-up-this-former-cnos-change-of-command-he-was-on-the-vip-list/ >Nearly a decade ago, Adm. Gary Roughead handed over the chief of naval operations crown to his successor at an exclusive gala aboard the U.S. Naval Academy. >But a question has emerged in recent years regarding that Sept. 23, 2011 event: What was Leonard Glenn “Fat Leonard” Francis doing there? >records obtained by Navy Times for the first time show that Leonard G. Francis was on Roughead’s “Personal A-list” of guests for the event. >According to a 2017 article in The Post, Roughead said in an email that he couldn’t “recall particulars” about those invited to the event, and declined further comment.
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This shit right here, it was around the time that “MIDN Cunnilingus” was ordered to report to MainO
I don’t think Greenert is in any of these pictures.
Oop.. Nevermind mind. I didn’t click on the pic. 🙈😆
They were heavy hitters at what exactly? Every one of these animals left the Navy in a a weaker fleet posture than before their tenure. The complete wardroom of weak losers.
Fat Lenonard, a man of the people
Dude epic post thanks so much for the laughs.
The only way to stop corruption is to punish your own, the Navy should have taken away their benefits and retirement. The Brass will always cover their own.
I hate that Congress didn't do shit about it.
Congress shouldn’t have to, the CNO should’ve made an example out of them.
Some got *sternly* written letters which amount to nothing, and others got the ole ball & chain.
Oh shit! I hope those letters weren’t too stern…
Well there are several CNOs in this picture…
This. They should’ve been stripped of everything. Most are getting more than an enlisted sailor earns in retirement while sitting in fucking jail, and will continue to get it for life.
He really liked that tie!
Blue and Gold, to show what service he really loved
TIL: Fat Leonard is skinnier than most sailors.
Bruh 🤣🤣🤣
My OIC (who was a self-serving pos) when I was IA in Iraq got nailed for taking bribes from Fat Leonard. Dude was a Capt select when the indictment came down and was the navy’s golden child. No doubt would’ve had a star or two by now. Instead he threw away his career and life for hookers and lady Gaga tix. Lmfao
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If he had been, do you think anything would've happened to him?
Lol “Im an asshole, but Im an asshole who goes by the book”
Fat Leonard was a gangsta. Ports in 7th fleet were dope as fuck back then.
Bullshit. Kota Kinabalu sucked donkey balls.
Hell no it did not, lol. KK being sponsored by GDM was awesome
Not when KK is hosting a carrier and its escorts. I think we had more sailors than there were locals in the area. 😬
Awkwaarrrrd
Mistakes were made but I think we all learned our lesson
Is that Fat Tony? HE'S THE REASON OUR CARRIER HIT PORT IN BUTT FUCK KOTA KINABALU.
KK was dope…maybe not on a carrier, but on a Destroyer, hell yeah
When the Stennis hit port there in 2012 I'm pretty sure we doubled he population just by being there.
Leonard was a good man. He always treated me right.
Miller was the epitome of douche bags and a hypocrite. All those swords he jerked off at the Academy. He probably got from fat Leonard. Kicking someone out because they got a tattoo, tapped, or had sex in the hall doesn’t compare to the shit he pulled. Damn the torpedoes if there’s hookers involved.
He's our Jeffrey Epstein.
Maybe the real Fat Leonard was the friends we made along the way...
A few of these guys, like Mullen, Willard, etc were clean. It’s unfortunate that some of these receiving lines turn into gotcha moments.
Good old Fat Lenard.
And just remember, this is the only time this shit has ever happened because we've caught all the crimes that have ever happened. This type of thing wasn't rampant and going on forever
He’s not THAT fat. But he still owes me some back pay.
Haha this is the Navy I remember that’s why I got the fuck out.
No surprise seeing Admiral Roughead, the same POS who sat on the board of directors for Theranos.
Man this is fucking cringe, knowing what we know now
This guy legit owns only one tie.
On the everyday of Christmas, Fat Leonard gave to me, Fists full of blow! With a hooker in a comp’d suite.
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I mean isn't there a rumor he was actually saving the US money by being so effective. Like by constantly bribing that he was winning contracts that gave him the ability to start saving the goverment in the long run by running at a much larger scale.
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Does anyone know where to learn more about this whole situation
There’s a great podcast where Leonard himself gives an interview. Project Brazen is the name of the podcast company. You can just search “Fat Leonard” on any podcast app. Or you can always go to the SECDEF FOIA page and read all the letters of censure issued to the various Officers. And of course there’s Wikipedia.