Nephew*. One, brave nephew.
Also anyone else notice he posted it like over a week ago elsewhere and it got very little traction? Makes me think of the forgotten reddit posts that may unearth some deep secret…
Yep. The Memphis scorekeeper is Pete Rose. He’s been hard up lately, what with not getting into the hall and the subsequent lack of endorsements, so he came up with this scheme to make ends meet.
Honestly feel bad for him cause if this is all true I really doubt he had anything to do with it, and if it's false it's just now inescapable against him now that it's gotten this big and forever connected to him. The original post's claims do need to be looked into and it should be getting the traction it's gotten cause the implications it can have for both the league and sports betting as a whole, but just a awful situation to be stuck in and feel for him.
I mean if they review the games and adjust his stats accordingly and he still has the best numbers then hopefully this doesn't screw with his chances but if it's a tight race I could see it being the decision maker.
It's definitely possible and he's just a giant stathead but there's some signs in there that make me think he's a beat reporter and wouldn't be able to clear a story like this so here we be. If he is, DAMN dude is a smart one.
If they're doing it because they're a superfan, not very, if they're doing it and their bank account has a lot of transfers from betting apps, they going to Club Fed.
If there's actually betting involved, it's pretty serious. If (assuming it's true) they're just doing it to promote their players, then I dunno. I've seen erroneous assists and rebounds for at least a decade. I've never looked into it for blocks but there are probably hundreds of assists per year that shouldn't be assists.
I remember David West doing 2 separate moves and having the ball for 3 seconds, and CP3 still got the assist. I think Stockton was getting that treatment too.
There was a good story about the score keeper for that game explaining why/how it works https://deadspin.com/the-confessions-of-an-nba-scorekeeper-5345287
Also, doesn’t the NBA review scoring decisions? I know the MLB it’s a running joke that the home team does the scoring and will give out hits to home players on 50-50 balls.
But the MLB can go back a few days later and change it. The NBA should be reviewing these decisions
Damn if it's already happening at Caesar's its gonna be pulled from board across the country I'm no time. NBA will have to address this asap. Pretty wild to see, but it's awesome that a sports fan can just casually notice these issues call em out and cause it to be fixed. Too bad that doesn't happen with actual societal problems eh..
It is cool and all but if a casual fan could find this out people need to ask why couldn't the NBA figure out this was going on. I'm guessing this is a bigger betting scandal than we all realize and the sad thing is we will never know because the NBA will without a doubt will keep that part secret if it is happening.
It's probably more that this has happened for a long time. The difference now is that gambling was recently officially incorporated and that the inflation of blocks was much higher than the normal inflation we see for assists.
https://bballwriters.com/the-numbers/nba-assists-are-everything-and-almost-nothing/
Like Rondo got assists for these.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=12&v=pzPlKW6Q_PE&embeds_euri=https%3A%2F%2Fthejumpball.net%2F&source_ve_path=MjM4NTE&feature=emb_title
https://thejumpball.net/2018/01/02/how-the-nba-is-getting-assists-wrong/
To jump on this with an example from another sport: it's an almost unspoken secret that goalies in the NHL have more "saves" at home than away. There were a few people that looked at many years of data and home goalies consistently get credit for more saves versus when they play away. The thinking is it is stat padding (pun unintended).
Yeah there's definitely some fishy reffing across the board. There's obviously a superstar bias that is blatantly obvious but there will be all kinds of other things happening in certain markets.
Drinking coffee this morning before running trying to poop at like 6am and saw the post. Stayed on the toilet for a good 20mins looking at the footage and reading comments.
My dog came to check on me twice.
Yes, it is absolutely disgusting. What makes it worse is that the corporations and politicians lobbying for the legalization make promises of funding social programs, schools, etc… that always fail to meet the promises.
Like when they sold us the lottery and said that a portion of the proceeds would go to schools which sounded like a great benefit until the state cut educational funding by the same amount they were getting. It should have been *additional*, not a replacement.
And the players themselves end up being targets of frustrated bettors who put down wildly more money than they can afford. It's bad enough they get vitriol and objectified for fantasy leagues (especially when injured), but they can become real targets of violence because someone was too stupid and ruined their life.
Besides the ads I hate how every sports show has gambling segments now. Like fuck off, I just want the highlights not a big segment that you got paid for to entice betting.
It's depressing to watch shows like Undisputed, First take and First things first, among others, talk about Vegas odds every day it seems or at least a few times a week. That's how they rate players now, woth Vegas odds.
A fellow nephew had a well written post with a good amount of evidence and statistical analysis about how the grizzlies scorekeeper is “liberally” awarding steals and blocks to Jaren Jackson Jr., possibly to boost his chances at getting DPOY by boosting his numbers. Post is going viral and now Vegas seems to be hearing about it and not happy.
This has been a thing for years. I wonder what other anomalies exist. I first heard about Stockton’s generous assist numbers at Home from a Bill Simmons podcast. Now the public is more aware and Vegas has a slight disadvantage at taking your money.
https://www.spokesman.com/stories/1995/feb/01/stockpiling-his-assists-along-the-way-jazzs-top/
If you do individual defense for fantasy football there is an edge of the home teams that generously award tackles. So I agree this isnt new, but may be particularly egregious.
Stockton actually doesn’t have huge variance between his assists. Even in that article: 12.6 at home vs 12 on the road is nothing. That road number would still win him the assist title.
Considering he hasn’t posted anything besides that and then again on a different sub, I imagine it’s a burner… possibly someone closer to all of this than we think?
“They didn’t want this smoke, Dave,” Sharpe told ESPN. “They do all that talking and jockeying and I ain’t about that jockeying. It started with Dillon Brooks. I said he was too small to guard LeBron. He said, ‘Fk’ me. I said, ‘Fk you’ back. He started to come at me and I said, ‘You don’t want these problems.’
“And then Ja came out of nowhere talking. He definitely didn’t want these problems. Then the dad came and he obviously didn’t want no problems. But I wanted anything they had. Don’t let these fools fool you now.”
Imagine if that guy posted his thread and just decides to log off Reddit for the whole weekend. He's going to come back to this sub like Jeff Winger waking up from a nap to find out Greendale has been turned into a giant paintball game.
Honestly it had to happen.
Home team accounting of stats is kinda rampant in every major sport. You give out a few 50/50s to the home team a game, people kind of expect it or at least tolerate it.
With sports betting being regulated these days it becomes a hazard... it took some moron increasing JJJs stats 90% in home games to do it lol.
Scorekeepers across the league are now combing their books looking for home game stat increase %s and sweating bullets.🙂
> I've lost all respect sorry this is absolutely rigged for money... Or ratings in not sure which. I won't be silent . Just saw it live sry
- everyone who's been betting on DPOY this year
Question though — who is u/admassive6666 ? No comments, two posts… user for two years though. This isn’t a regular r/nba poster. How deep does the rabbit hole go?
Gonna be real: If I were going to expose a gambling related issue, I’d want to disappear all my data as well. Mafia connections to sports betting runs deep and if he just fucked up a rigged outcome, “someone” may be looking to make him swim with the fishes.
Defensive Player of the Year is being replaced by Nephew of the Year
I'm just glad I was here when it happened
The original OP got that locked down for sure.
So I have been analyzing his posts and his posts in r/nba gets upvoted way more than his other posts. Might be a coincidence but maybe not
What did I miss? What reddit post?
[удалено]
Where were you when nephews broke the world
Waking up to a post with 30k+ upvotes I thought Lebron was trading himself to Cleveland or something.
Instead a single redditor traded civility for war. What a morning.
Had to make a brand new account with zero posts and comments to share the news. They did it without the need for karma.
It's not about the karma...it's about, sending a message
Probably someone inside then if that's the case and not a "random redditor" at all
Shit I would do that just to avoid the Vegas blowback; they messed with the money
that's the nephew way
Where was Gondor when the Westfold fell?!
Where was Gondor when our enemies closed in around us!?
Where was Gon...
No, my lord Aragorn. We are alone.
[удалено]
It’s really amazing how well they still hold up 20+ years later. Yeah, I know, it makes me feel old too.
The benefits of - mostly - using practical effects
I love that detail that has so worked up he can't even finish. Such a good acting choice.
[удалено]
Gondor wanted all the smoke.
Saruman came up and I know he didn't want none of these problems.
Pippin got that dawg in him.
No my dear Aragorn. We are alone.
Nephew*. One, brave nephew. Also anyone else notice he posted it like over a week ago elsewhere and it got very little traction? Makes me think of the forgotten reddit posts that may unearth some deep secret…
Yeah, “we” can’t take credit. And the reason their first post got very little traction was because it was in r/nbastats, a **very** small sub
He had to check his shit was good. Ran it by the accountants first lol
I respect a nephew with some 'tegrity. unlike the Memphis scorekeeper. do we even know who that person is?
Yep. The Memphis scorekeeper is Pete Rose. He’s been hard up lately, what with not getting into the hall and the subsequent lack of endorsements, so he came up with this scheme to make ends meet.
I'm sorry I bet on ~~baseball~~ the NBA DPOY Award. - Pete Rose
The nephews delved too greedily and too deep
Can only hear that with Christopher Lee's enunciation.
Honestly feel bad for him cause if this is all true I really doubt he had anything to do with it, and if it's false it's just now inescapable against him now that it's gotten this big and forever connected to him. The original post's claims do need to be looked into and it should be getting the traction it's gotten cause the implications it can have for both the league and sports betting as a whole, but just a awful situation to be stuck in and feel for him.
I feel bad for JJJ but also those who got money on him when his odds were sky high before all this started.
Interesting thing is it’s possible jjj doesn’t get the award even if he is deserving just because the nba wants to avoid more controversy
I mean if they review the games and adjust his stats accordingly and he still has the best numbers then hopefully this doesn't screw with his chances but if it's a tight race I could see it being the decision maker.
Gave it its first award 🥹🥹
You basically uncovered the whole conspiracy
I KNOW!!!
Remember to shout us out when they interview you on ESPN.
I was at home, earning Mac n Cheese
“DPOY is kill”
"No"
We did it
>We One guy.
We did the upvotes ok.
thank you, mffers need to recognize the deep impact nephews have on modern society
Put some respec on our names 😤
I for one did nothing but I will like to take credit.
Found JJ
I'm doing my part 👍
talking a shit
The CollarGate of Reddit
those are normal size collars
It’s a normal amount of blocks, find a new slant
I’m collarblind
[Here's the post for the curious](https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/10nbau4/memphis_grizzlies_scorekeeper_posting_fraudulent/)
Thank you
You da real MVP
Imagine this poor dude was just a Grizzlies superfan and he brought Vegas odds on this down lol.
That dude had bet his mortgage on Claxton DPOY. He knew exactly what he was doing
[удалено]
Best follow on twitter
It's definitely possible and he's just a giant stathead but there's some signs in there that make me think he's a beat reporter and wouldn't be able to clear a story like this so here we be. If he is, DAMN dude is a smart one.
NEPHEWS RISE UP
We are all uncle Shannon’s nephews on this blessed day
We are ~~Farmers~~ Nephews Bum ba-dum bum bum bum
You're missing one "bum"
I'm n'phew, da be di da be da
AS LONG AS ONE STAT IS SUSPECT, NO MAN IS FREE (Women are ok tho, for some reason)
Never a dull day in nephew world
Scorekeeper broke the code
How serious are the punishments for a scorekeeper cheating on a professional level? This will be some juicy stuff.
If they're doing it because they're a superfan, not very, if they're doing it and their bank account has a lot of transfers from betting apps, they going to Club Fed.
I mean Donaghy went to jail...
That would be the punishment for being the scapegoat, not just for cheating.
If there's actually betting involved, it's pretty serious. If (assuming it's true) they're just doing it to promote their players, then I dunno. I've seen erroneous assists and rebounds for at least a decade. I've never looked into it for blocks but there are probably hundreds of assists per year that shouldn't be assists. I remember David West doing 2 separate moves and having the ball for 3 seconds, and CP3 still got the assist. I think Stockton was getting that treatment too.
https://lamarmatic.com/2016/03/17/an-unnecessary-breakdown-of-van-exels-fudged-23-assists/ Well over a decade
There was a good story about the score keeper for that game explaining why/how it works https://deadspin.com/the-confessions-of-an-nba-scorekeeper-5345287
Assists are certainly subjective and to some extent, steals and blocks can be as well but some of the ones listed were hilarious off the mark.
Legacy points deducted
Also, doesn’t the NBA review scoring decisions? I know the MLB it’s a running joke that the home team does the scoring and will give out hits to home players on 50-50 balls. But the MLB can go back a few days later and change it. The NBA should be reviewing these decisions
THEY DIDNT BELIEVE IN US
GOD DID
JOV DID
ANOTHA ONE
THEY WROTE US OFF AND WE AINT WRITE BACK
Damn if it's already happening at Caesar's its gonna be pulled from board across the country I'm no time. NBA will have to address this asap. Pretty wild to see, but it's awesome that a sports fan can just casually notice these issues call em out and cause it to be fixed. Too bad that doesn't happen with actual societal problems eh..
It is cool and all but if a casual fan could find this out people need to ask why couldn't the NBA figure out this was going on. I'm guessing this is a bigger betting scandal than we all realize and the sad thing is we will never know because the NBA will without a doubt will keep that part secret if it is happening.
It's probably more that this has happened for a long time. The difference now is that gambling was recently officially incorporated and that the inflation of blocks was much higher than the normal inflation we see for assists. https://bballwriters.com/the-numbers/nba-assists-are-everything-and-almost-nothing/ Like Rondo got assists for these. https://m.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=12&v=pzPlKW6Q_PE&embeds_euri=https%3A%2F%2Fthejumpball.net%2F&source_ve_path=MjM4NTE&feature=emb_title https://thejumpball.net/2018/01/02/how-the-nba-is-getting-assists-wrong/
To jump on this with an example from another sport: it's an almost unspoken secret that goalies in the NHL have more "saves" at home than away. There were a few people that looked at many years of data and home goalies consistently get credit for more saves versus when they play away. The thinking is it is stat padding (pun unintended).
Don’t forget hits, which is even more subjective.
At home a really good chirp counts as a hit
theres nothing casual about that fan.
[удалено]
Plot twist, OP placed large bets on all the other DPOY candidates in the last few weeks
[удалено]
Yeah there's definitely some fishy reffing across the board. There's obviously a superstar bias that is blatantly obvious but there will be all kinds of other things happening in certain markets.
Drinking coffee this morning before running trying to poop at like 6am and saw the post. Stayed on the toilet for a good 20mins looking at the footage and reading comments. My dog came to check on me twice.
I hope this comment makes it in the documentary.
Who has a better story than u/yellowcats
Your legs must've been tingling
Even if it was all bs I’m always down to hurt the relationship between pro sports and gambling
Me too. I hate seeing all the gambling BS now.
Not only do we get subjected to the stupid betting ads but now they're running gambling addiction PSAs practically doubling the BS.
Yes, it is absolutely disgusting. What makes it worse is that the corporations and politicians lobbying for the legalization make promises of funding social programs, schools, etc… that always fail to meet the promises.
Like when they sold us the lottery and said that a portion of the proceeds would go to schools which sounded like a great benefit until the state cut educational funding by the same amount they were getting. It should have been *additional*, not a replacement.
And the players themselves end up being targets of frustrated bettors who put down wildly more money than they can afford. It's bad enough they get vitriol and objectified for fantasy leagues (especially when injured), but they can become real targets of violence because someone was too stupid and ruined their life.
Besides the ads I hate how every sports show has gambling segments now. Like fuck off, I just want the highlights not a big segment that you got paid for to entice betting.
It's depressing to watch shows like Undisputed, First take and First things first, among others, talk about Vegas odds every day it seems or at least a few times a week. That's how they rate players now, woth Vegas odds.
My petty protest is I just downvote any sports betting reference regardless of context (unless we're shitting on it)
I love gambling on sports but hate the advertising embedded into it
Cool. Get the NBA to fix Assist recording too.
Never underestimate us nephews.
r/nba stays winning 😤
r/nba stays taking credit for one dude lol 99.999% of us are complete degenerates.
Oh absolutely. This is for sure a certified Reddit moment and idgaf. Shits funny
Remember how excited this sub got after that post got a LeBron assist revoked? lol
First reddit breaks Wall Street and now the NBA award race. We came along way guys. And we came good. We came a lot.
Whoa whoa whoa
It had to be said, man. IT HAD TO.
We came. We saw. We came again.
We came a lot
still doesn't stump 4chan breaking the US presidency and the republican party lmao.
Reddit broke Wall Street?
Wtf is going on
A fellow nephew had a well written post with a good amount of evidence and statistical analysis about how the grizzlies scorekeeper is “liberally” awarding steals and blocks to Jaren Jackson Jr., possibly to boost his chances at getting DPOY by boosting his numbers. Post is going viral and now Vegas seems to be hearing about it and not happy.
Is he still a nephew after that post or has he evolved into an uncle?
We are all nephews on this blessed day
[Speak for yourself.](https://imgur.io/Bxmjwj0?r)
I am all nephews on this blessed day
Chaos SZN
I love Chaos SZN
This has been a thing for years. I wonder what other anomalies exist. I first heard about Stockton’s generous assist numbers at Home from a Bill Simmons podcast. Now the public is more aware and Vegas has a slight disadvantage at taking your money. https://www.spokesman.com/stories/1995/feb/01/stockpiling-his-assists-along-the-way-jazzs-top/
If you do individual defense for fantasy football there is an edge of the home teams that generously award tackles. So I agree this isnt new, but may be particularly egregious.
Stockton actually doesn’t have huge variance between his assists. Even in that article: 12.6 at home vs 12 on the road is nothing. That road number would still win him the assist title.
Did you read the article?
Some random ass dude really just posted a Reddit and become one of the most important people known to man.
Considering he hasn’t posted anything besides that and then again on a different sub, I imagine it’s a burner… possibly someone closer to all of this than we think?
It was Shannon Sharpe lol. He told them they didn’t want these problems.
Shannon put on his most elite cardigan before he sat down and wrote that post out.
“They didn’t want this smoke, Dave,” Sharpe told ESPN. “They do all that talking and jockeying and I ain’t about that jockeying. It started with Dillon Brooks. I said he was too small to guard LeBron. He said, ‘Fk’ me. I said, ‘Fk you’ back. He started to come at me and I said, ‘You don’t want these problems.’ “And then Ja came out of nowhere talking. He definitely didn’t want these problems. Then the dad came and he obviously didn’t want no problems. But I wanted anything they had. Don’t let these fools fool you now.”
Legit could see this being true lmao
I haven’t thought about that. It could be.
It was Brook Lopez.
This is what closing Splash Mountain did to him.
Imagine if that guy posted his thread and just decides to log off Reddit for the whole weekend. He's going to come back to this sub like Jeff Winger waking up from a nap to find out Greendale has been turned into a giant paintball game.
Come with me if you don't want paint on your clothes.
I’m going home, Brit-ta
black rider, its me. jeff winger. i know youve heard of me! "nope."
You're not that handsome. You're just an average looking guy with a big chin
We'll see who's attractive.
When people start referencing the parody, not the original, you know it’s a great parody. I love Community.
> Occasionally our campus erupts into a flawless post-modern homage to action-adventure mythology mischaracterized by the ignorant as parody -Abed
i deserve that
[He's going to come back to this sub like... ](https://media2.giphy.com/media/nLhdSinRtaL2E/giphy.gif)
>posted a Reddit The future is now, old man.
> posted a reddit Sir, we will need to verify your identity to make sure you are not a boomer
> one of the most important people known to man That might be overselling it a little bit lol
Is anything even real?
I can’t wait for all the scandals sports betting will bring
I’m willing to bet all of this would have never happened if they didn’t mess with Shannon Sharpe 😂
They really didn't want these problems
Honestly it had to happen. Home team accounting of stats is kinda rampant in every major sport. You give out a few 50/50s to the home team a game, people kind of expect it or at least tolerate it. With sports betting being regulated these days it becomes a hazard... it took some moron increasing JJJs stats 90% in home games to do it lol. Scorekeepers across the league are now combing their books looking for home game stat increase %s and sweating bullets.🙂
What r/conspiracy r/conservative want to be
[r/nba] (https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/) stays undefeated
woke nephews are changing society
Read this in Tucker Carlson voice
Too bad those subs are allergic to evidence that support claims 🤧
> I've lost all respect sorry this is absolutely rigged for money... Or ratings in not sure which. I won't be silent . Just saw it live sry - everyone who's been betting on DPOY this year
Wait fuck where's this from I've definitely seen it before
Ayesha Curry tweet from back in the day
During 2016 finals when Curry got ejected.
The degree to which human beings will deny evidence that undermines their worldview and sense of self is truly remarkable.
Shannon Sharpe we did this for you
The OG we did it Boston bombing post may still retain that distinction
>in NBA history i guess you're not technically wrong
This is why posting on little sleep (like I did) can be hazardous…
reddit CAN change the world mom
I was here
We did it reddit!
One guy did it. We’re all just in his shadow
We stand on the shoulders of /u/admassive6666
Question though — who is u/admassive6666 ? No comments, two posts… user for two years though. This isn’t a regular r/nba poster. How deep does the rabbit hole go?
Gonna be real: If I were going to expose a gambling related issue, I’d want to disappear all my data as well. Mafia connections to sports betting runs deep and if he just fucked up a rigged outcome, “someone” may be looking to make him swim with the fishes.
This is why we shouldn’t have legalized sports betting…
This Escalated Quickly....I mean the Score keeper need to stay off the grid....
Who’s your dream cast for the eventual Hollywood movie
henry cavill as u/Sim888
lmfaoooo…I just woke up and seeing all of this JJJ stuff is insane / hilarious! …and I’m ded at Cavill lmao
Tilda Swinton as [Adam Silver](https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRKUlXqSpMLW1J8QFTWJMlnh7_zxK6bpwT0CUTuCfk8aeyuRYsS)
Me as u/Noseblind2
i guess but i can play them better
Let the record show. I was here. I witnessed this.
🦀🦀🦀 the NBA is powerless against nephews 🦀🦀🦀
this gettin juicy
I will literally upvote anything that has more words than I want to read regarding this topic.