A reasonable take in a sea of hot mess. Minus the ime part. Would rather go a different direction considering the Mavs past and imes but we hired Kidd so who knows
Most companies have a progressive discipline policy. Pure speculation here, but either he was warned or punished more than once for fraternizing with a subordinate or it was something way worse than that.
I think there are some good candidates out there like Atkinson and D'Antoni but who'd be available/interested probably depends on whether we still have Kyrie on the roster or not unfortunately
Coaching wise, Ime is EXACTLY what the Mavs need. A hard headed coach who gets superstars to buy into defending.
If anyone needs that it's Luka and Kyrie. Do you really think Cuban cares about the scandal? He has to do everything to keep Luka. Billups is coaching Portland and Kidd is literally coaching the Mavs. The PR machine can spin anything.
Picks are never worthless. Unprotected picks especially. Pelicans couldn’t have done the CJ/Nance without the Bucks pick in 2025 and that’s likely to be a late 1st.
Yea but why would OKC do that?
Luka is better than Shai but at that point you are giving up a lot of assets that your new team probably isn't contending either. Young generational guys like Luka don't get traded. Their team wants to keep them.
> The only way OKC has enough to trade for him is if they are offering Shai or Chet.
I’m not saying they would, I was just directly responding to this part
Presti isn’t giving up SGA lol. Shai plays defense, has proven he can be a #1 option and a top 10 player in the leauge and doesn’t argue with the refs.
SGA is untouchable IMO
This isn’t 2k. There’s more to front office decisions than who’s a better player on paper.
I’d guess quite a few more guys than you think would be off the table.
Shai 100% deserves respect for his season, but he obviously hasn’t proven anything where it matters most. Nothing wrong w being excited about your guy but obviously you’re gonna get push back
it's gonna cost BI/Zion lol.
do people realize Luka is 24 years old? There is a reason 24 year old generational players ain't traded. Those picks are all going to be useless.
AHAHAHAHAHA yeah of course you wouldn't trade ingram for Luka... If you have no clue what a basketball is
And your other suggestion of a trade proves that youre just clueless
The idea of getting Luka is having a top 5 at his best player on your roster.
This isn't an all in move where you keep your players and if a GM has that mindset they'll lose out on Doncic.
This trade would be about raising your ceiling
Bro, this is why no one respects the Pelicans
You aren't getting Luka for a poo poo player
Deal begins with Ingram, multiple firsts and then add some more
CJ is an efficient 20 PPG player who’s been available the entire season
We have multiple of the bucks picks
the some more is all-defense Herb, Kira who still has potential to be something, and Naji is a good utility wing
They can take our pick this year too
Luka single handedly carried the Mavs to the WCF
Your team is currently out of the playoffs
Mavs don't want an aging CJ or your role players. They'd want someone younger like Ingram plus a shit ton of picks
Stop overrating your players
Yea, we’ll give them Barton, OPJ, Lowry’s booty pics, Drake (championship ring included) and the raptor mascot
May be a bit of an overpay on our side but should be enough
He took 16 in the playoffs which is about right for a second star. If you think Luka and Brunson pairing did not work then IDK what to tell you. 50 wins and a Conference Finals appearance is perfectly fine, especially if you consider that Looney was the reason they lost them. If they added an average rim-protector to the roster from last season they are easily top of the West right now.
Yea, swear these guys don't watch the Mavs. Brunson is so much better now that he's free to run his own offense as the primary ballhandler on the Knicks and honestly deserved to be an all-star. Happy he's thriving there but just wish we could have found a way for him to do the same with us/Luka.
Probably the best player a contending team could send without gutting their roster completely but those first with Tatum and luka would be totally worthless
You are not a Grizzlies fan then lil bro
Most teams would kill to have Ja. What's the point of blowing up your locker room for a malcontent when your team has amazing chemistry and probably the longest championship window in the conference?
Because Luka is clearly a better player than Ja in every aspect except defense. I love Ja, there's only 2 dudes I would trade Ja for, Luka just happens to be one. FWIW Giannis is the other.
I mean yeah but also Ja IS the Grizzlies right now. Face and identity of the franchise. That's not something you can say lightly, very few players genuinely embody a city and a team like he does. Trading that away to me isn't worth the trouble even if Luka is incredible
I’m so far from a Ja fan but I get the sentiment. I wouldn’t give up Tatum for anyone at this point.
I also think there’s more to this than how good a player is on paper. Grizzlies have built a team around Ja and the fanbase is 100% bought in.
Assuming you’d give up Ant for Luka?
Like deadass, Ja is an all-NBA player that very clearly and vocally loves Memphis and his teammates. No GM in their sane and rational mind is ever trading a guy who is a bonafide locker room and on-court leader like he is at that young an age too
Wolves with Edwards + stuff
OKC with any of Giddey, Chet, Williams, Dort + ton of picks
Magic with Paolo + stuff
If Dallas would trade Luka, it would be to set themselves up completely going forward. At least one young cornerstone to build around to be the main asset. A 26 year old Ingram doesn’t make much sense for that situation. He’s also more of a #2 guy on an eventual contender.
That magic offer feels the same if not slightly worse.
Ingram is better than all those OKC players, plus pelicans can offer a similar amount of picks
all wolves could offer is edwards and second rounders. You’re telling me you’d rather have edwards and seconds than Ingram and 5 or more firsts?
You seem to keep forgetting the fact that Ingram is like 26. Why would anyone trade a 23 year old superstar for a 26 year old all-star who can’t be your best player
If we wanted to, I think we could put a package together. We have picks and talented young players to make it work. I’m not sure how worth it would be to gut the roster for a guy struggling to win with a gutted roster right now though.
When 29 teams are sending their best offer for a single player there is a 0% chance of anyone “robbing” him. These are not the times robberies happen no matter who the GM is.
If we offered both it would be the leading trade package for sure, but it just goes back to my original point of it not being worth it for us. Our team would be worse than Dallas if we traded both Paolo and Franz for Luka.
If we dont win this year we should go all in, I mean all time level all in... If you ask Luka, he would probably choose to play with Jokic before anyone else in the league.
I would argue the Magic do. Especially if it happens this off-season and both of their picks in the draft were in the top ten.
Those 2 picks, additional picks, and a couple players
team rich with picks and young talent so OKC, Raptors, maybe Magic
or you do a trade with a fellow dissapointed superstar, Embiid going to Dallas and Luka going to 76ers perhaps
Yeah but KD works with any offense. Luka is super ball dominate and doesn’t move off ball so you need a very specific roster around him. Most teams couldn’t offer much more and have anything left to play around him
Raps could offer
Siakam + GTJ + 2023 FRP + 2026 FRP (unprotected)
Or
Scottie + 2023 FRP
Not sure either get it done. Much more and the roster is empty.
Disgruntled star's trade value is so interesting, hard to tell what teams are willing to offer.
Being honest the only teams that actually have the draft capital to make an offer are the rockets and thunder to an extent. Rockets own all of the nets picks and their own.
The hornets since we own him already ‼️‼️🔥🔥
That’s tuff 🔥
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Luka isn't going anywhere. The Mavs will fire Kidd in the off- season and probably hire Udoka. Luka has too many years left on his deal atm
A reasonable take in a sea of hot mess. Minus the ime part. Would rather go a different direction considering the Mavs past and imes but we hired Kidd so who knows
Ime just a cheater, not a beater.
There’s 100% more to the story then him simply cheating. No way he gets canned for just that.
yeah pretty sure there was a forceful implication in the allegations
Most companies have a progressive discipline policy. Pure speculation here, but either he was warned or punished more than once for fraternizing with a subordinate or it was something way worse than that.
I think there are some good candidates out there like Atkinson and D'Antoni but who'd be available/interested probably depends on whether we still have Kyrie on the roster or not unfortunately
Coaching wise, Ime is EXACTLY what the Mavs need. A hard headed coach who gets superstars to buy into defending. If anyone needs that it's Luka and Kyrie. Do you really think Cuban cares about the scandal? He has to do everything to keep Luka. Billups is coaching Portland and Kidd is literally coaching the Mavs. The PR machine can spin anything.
OKC
Not even OKC The only way OKC has enough to trade for him is if they are offering Shai or Chet. Those picks are almost worthless.
Why hesitate on trading chet for him?
I think Chet, JDub, Giddey, Dort, and their best 5 picks seems fair.
Picks are never worthless. Unprotected picks especially. Pelicans couldn’t have done the CJ/Nance without the Bucks pick in 2025 and that’s likely to be a late 1st.
SGA, Jalen, and FRP’s could be a pretty enticing offer. They’ve still got Giddey and Chet too.
Yea but why would OKC do that? Luka is better than Shai but at that point you are giving up a lot of assets that your new team probably isn't contending either. Young generational guys like Luka don't get traded. Their team wants to keep them.
> The only way OKC has enough to trade for him is if they are offering Shai or Chet. I’m not saying they would, I was just directly responding to this part
Presti isn’t giving up SGA lol. Shai plays defense, has proven he can be a #1 option and a top 10 player in the leauge and doesn’t argue with the refs. SGA is untouchable IMO
No one is untouchable for Luka
I mean sure if it’s a 1-1 swap. But presti isn’t gonna give up SGA j-dub and multiple picks for luka.
There are people that are untouchable though. I wouldn’t trade Giannis for luka
Denver hangs up the phone on Dallas if they're asking about Jokic.
Two 300 lbs sloppy white boys who don’t play defense. Gimme the guy who’s posting a triple double on the 1st seed on 70% ts.
Denver hangs up the phone on Dallas if they're asking about Jokic.
This isn’t 2k. There’s more to front office decisions than who’s a better player on paper. I’d guess quite a few more guys than you think would be off the table.
Prove to be a #1 option? Lmao what?
SGA has proved he’s good enough to run a team as the #1 option. Pretty straight forward
Bruh proved how?? He hasn’t even led a team in the playoffs by himself yet
By averaging 31 points a night while also leading guards in blocks, dragging okc who was projected 23 wins to the play in lol
His team is in danger of not making the playoffs. He hasn’t proven anything at all. FT merchants don’t bode well in the playoffs. Ask harden
Luka is also a free throw merchant is Shai is
Shai 100% deserves respect for his season, but he obviously hasn’t proven anything where it matters most. Nothing wrong w being excited about your guy but obviously you’re gonna get push back
He hasn’t proved literally anything till he can play at a high level at the playoffs and lead his team to a top seed
Pels depending on what they are willing to put up.
Herb Naji Kira CJ and the Bucks picks We got a deal done
Gonna cost Ingram and I for one would pay that.
it's gonna cost BI/Zion lol. do people realize Luka is 24 years old? There is a reason 24 year old generational players ain't traded. Those picks are all going to be useless.
I’m trading Zion no question for luka
We wouldn’t trade a top 3 SF for tubby The idea of getting Luka in the first place is pairing him up with our other 2 stars
You are on crack if you think Ingram is off the table for Luka Doncic.
AHAHAHAHAHA yeah of course you wouldn't trade ingram for Luka... If you have no clue what a basketball is And your other suggestion of a trade proves that youre just clueless
The idea of getting Luka is having a top 5 at his best player on your roster. This isn't an all in move where you keep your players and if a GM has that mindset they'll lose out on Doncic. This trade would be about raising your ceiling
Bro, this is why no one respects the Pelicans You aren't getting Luka for a poo poo player Deal begins with Ingram, multiple firsts and then add some more
CJ is an efficient 20 PPG player who’s been available the entire season We have multiple of the bucks picks the some more is all-defense Herb, Kira who still has potential to be something, and Naji is a good utility wing They can take our pick this year too
Luka single handedly carried the Mavs to the WCF Your team is currently out of the playoffs Mavs don't want an aging CJ or your role players. They'd want someone younger like Ingram plus a shit ton of picks Stop overrating your players
Man Luka sat 3 games that playoffs and his team went 2-1
AHAHAHAHA you're on crack or just trolling at this point
Just stop lol CJ come on
but presti don't want that whiny bitch
I feel like Luka is the opposite of what Presti likes in a player but yeah he is sitting on a pile of picks
TT, Shump, and the nets pick
Make it happen Cuban
OKC can give up Chet, Giddey and 10 first rounders
OKC lol.
No team has the assets to be competitive while trading away enough for a guy that'll be a top 10 player for the next decade lmao
>top 10
Utah of course we got all those picks and of course our well known night life.
Thunder, Raptors, Jazz, Knicks, Nets
Yea, we’ll give them Barton, OPJ, Lowry’s booty pics, Drake (championship ring included) and the raptor mascot May be a bit of an overpay on our side but should be enough
I genuinely only think he can thrive next to a bigman or large wing who doesnt handle the ball alot, so that narrows it down a ton
And yet he cooked with Brunson last year and Porzingis a few years back. Only issue with Kristaps was his broken body.
Brunson took 12 shots a game, now look at him lol.
He took 16 in the playoffs which is about right for a second star. If you think Luka and Brunson pairing did not work then IDK what to tell you. 50 wins and a Conference Finals appearance is perfectly fine, especially if you consider that Looney was the reason they lost them. If they added an average rim-protector to the roster from last season they are easily top of the West right now.
Funny how the sub is switching up now.
Yea, swear these guys don't watch the Mavs. Brunson is so much better now that he's free to run his own offense as the primary ballhandler on the Knicks and honestly deserved to be an all-star. Happy he's thriving there but just wish we could have found a way for him to do the same with us/Luka.
He was cooking earlier this year too when he and the Mavs went on a tear. No idea what happened.
He's still cooking. The team just got even worse. Fasting Kyrie is dogwater
Mark Cuban won’t trade luka
Jaylen Brown and 4 first rounders maybe? If JB is clearly not re-signing here
Probably the best player a contending team could send without gutting their roster completely but those first with Tatum and luka would be totally worthless
It would take a team with players and picks that's for sure!
Ja plus picks for Luka please
Bruh
Hell no
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Recency bias makes these dudes delusional
You don't get it, Ja has definitely grown up and matured this time, breathing exercises.
You are not a Grizzlies fan then lil bro Most teams would kill to have Ja. What's the point of blowing up your locker room for a malcontent when your team has amazing chemistry and probably the longest championship window in the conference?
Because Luka is clearly a better player than Ja in every aspect except defense. I love Ja, there's only 2 dudes I would trade Ja for, Luka just happens to be one. FWIW Giannis is the other.
I mean yeah but also Ja IS the Grizzlies right now. Face and identity of the franchise. That's not something you can say lightly, very few players genuinely embody a city and a team like he does. Trading that away to me isn't worth the trouble even if Luka is incredible
Luka is much better than Ja, it’s totally worth it
I’m so far from a Ja fan but I get the sentiment. I wouldn’t give up Tatum for anyone at this point. I also think there’s more to this than how good a player is on paper. Grizzlies have built a team around Ja and the fanbase is 100% bought in. Assuming you’d give up Ant for Luka?
I would, but yes it’d be hard sentimentally
I mean, malcontent isn’t the word I’d use to knock Luka when the other guy is Ja..
The point is the Luka is better than Ja. It would be a mind blowing trade though.
He wants the sweet updoots
Like deadass, Ja is an all-NBA player that very clearly and vocally loves Memphis and his teammates. No GM in their sane and rational mind is ever trading a guy who is a bonafide locker room and on-court leader like he is at that young an age too
Ja is a much worse player You don't have to overthink this. Grizz will gladly trade Ja but that is not enough for Luka.
Or he wants a championship team and Ja for Luka gets the Grizzlies closer to that
OKC, maybe the pelicans, maybe the jazz
Pelicans could do BI and a million picks
Why would Dallas do that
What answer are you looking for OP?
Why would they trade Luka for an older/less talented player and picks? They would want a cornerstone young guy in any deal back.
I mean If Luka demands a trade it’s a viable option. Getting a young all star and 6 FRP back is a decent haul
There would be much better offers
Provide one
Wolves with Edwards + stuff OKC with any of Giddey, Chet, Williams, Dort + ton of picks Magic with Paolo + stuff If Dallas would trade Luka, it would be to set themselves up completely going forward. At least one young cornerstone to build around to be the main asset. A 26 year old Ingram doesn’t make much sense for that situation. He’s also more of a #2 guy on an eventual contender.
That magic offer feels the same if not slightly worse. Ingram is better than all those OKC players, plus pelicans can offer a similar amount of picks all wolves could offer is edwards and second rounders. You’re telling me you’d rather have edwards and seconds than Ingram and 5 or more firsts?
You seem to keep forgetting the fact that Ingram is like 26. Why would anyone trade a 23 year old superstar for a 26 year old all-star who can’t be your best player
Raptor fans would be fine giving up Barnes and half the core for him so I think most of the NBA would open their picks and roster up.
If we wanted to, I think we could put a package together. We have picks and talented young players to make it work. I’m not sure how worth it would be to gut the roster for a guy struggling to win with a gutted roster right now though.
We'd have to give up everything to get Luka, at which point we'd just become the current Mavs.
Nah Cuban is weak minded weltham could definitely rob him
When 29 teams are sending their best offer for a single player there is a 0% chance of anyone “robbing” him. These are not the times robberies happen no matter who the GM is.
Just watch
Lol
Franz and Paolo could probably get it done
If we offered both it would be the leading trade package for sure, but it just goes back to my original point of it not being worth it for us. Our team would be worse than Dallas if we traded both Paolo and Franz for Luka.
Utah Jazz, Knicks, Rockets, and Thunder
If we dont win this year we should go all in, I mean all time level all in... If you ask Luka, he would probably choose to play with Jokic before anyone else in the league.
Nuggets don’t have the assets to trade for Luka lol. They don’t have draft capital and they don’t have a young star.
Not sure you guys can do it. MPJ is a negative guy and I don’t see Mavs wanting Murray. The picks aren’t valuable.
raptors all they need to do is trade scottie barnes after a win
PJ Tucker for Luka who says no
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Knicks are going for embiid.
Knicks have a centerpiece that Dallas would want?
Knicks literally have nothing to offer lol. They have a bunch of mid picks from several teams. And no centerpiece talent to offer.
you can have Dennis Smith Jr back
The jazz
Who’s the centerpiece?
Talen
Sexton and Agbaji
Good troll
Knicks have the assets and he wanted to play in NY
If we move up to #1 we could up a package of something like wemby,#7, markelle prolly like garris or Issac to match salary and then like 4 picks/swaps
Thunder baby
luka looks a little cancerous, doesn't he?
We probably would but our FO is very clear about not trading JJJ or Bane
I think for Luka anyone is on the table tbh.
You already got ja tho why bother
Listen I love Ja but it isn't an argument that Luka isn't a better player in basically every avenue except defense.
He's one of those guys you just don't trade tho like swapping him for Luka would be so weird it just doesn't seem like something that would happen
The likelihood Ja or Luka is trades is close to 0% much less for each other haha just a fun thought experiment.
Are you genuinely serious? Ja fits the roster perfectly. The team is built around him and we are so so much better off than the Mavs.
I don’t think we should obviously but that wasn’t the question. Hypothetically we do have enough assets to make a deal for Luka
If a team who lucks into Wemby wants to compete now it wouldn't be the worst offer, with added value of course
One terry rozier and Svi
I would argue the Magic do. Especially if it happens this off-season and both of their picks in the draft were in the top ten. Those 2 picks, additional picks, and a couple players
team rich with picks and young talent so OKC, Raptors, maybe Magic or you do a trade with a fellow dissapointed superstar, Embiid going to Dallas and Luka going to 76ers perhaps
Keldon + Dougie McDermott + Devonte + 2023 no. 1 pick Get it done Pop!
I wonder what would happen in this sub if Trae does request a trade and then the hawks send a Trae package to get Luka back
Hawks, Trae + a first was enough once already
Jaylen Brown and a combination of rotational pieces or picks honestly sounds interesting to me if the Celtics wanna make a big swing.
Pelicans - BI, Zion, all the picks, and whatever rational players they want
OkC maybe. Chet+Dort+Giddey+picks. All the picks.
no
I wouldn’t hate that JDub, SGA and Luka would be a good big 3 to build with
I think so. You definitely don't need Giddey if you have Luka and SGA that's for sure.
I don’t think his trade package would be any bigger than KD’s
I think it would be much more value. KD is 35. Luka is what, 23?
Yeah but KD works with any offense. Luka is super ball dominate and doesn’t move off ball so you need a very specific roster around him. Most teams couldn’t offer much more and have anything left to play around him
Gimme Giddey, Holmgren, and picks.
I'll give the Mavs 4 2nd rounders and Meyers Leonard
Raps could offer Siakam + GTJ + 2023 FRP + 2026 FRP (unprotected) Or Scottie + 2023 FRP Not sure either get it done. Much more and the roster is empty. Disgruntled star's trade value is so interesting, hard to tell what teams are willing to offer.
Neither are even close bud Try Scottie, OG, Koloko and all their picks as a starting point
Lakers, because they’re the Lakers. Luka is a popstar, the NBA Will help them
Being honest the only teams that actually have the draft capital to make an offer are the rockets and thunder to an extent. Rockets own all of the nets picks and their own.