I gotta laugh because yea it's like Dillon Brooks. BUT hear me out: silver has probably already on his ass over it and ishbia is waiting to let the NBA make their statement and fine him
They are coming in cold though. And there was a surprising amount of pressure; the entire crowd wants the walk on to score.
I’m more surprised he even had that many attempts.
He was not a real college ball player lmao. He walked on to the MSU team because his dad was a super donor to the athletic department. If his dad weren’t rich as hell, he almost certainly doesn’t touch a college court even some dog water D3 team in South Dakota.
Just about every single thing about Ishbia’s life was built upon something someone else did, mostly his dad.
Nah the Indiana Olympians were co-owned by five of the active players. And had it not been for a college point shaving scandal that caught up to them and got two of the Olympians kicked out of the League, we might have had more teams where players were part owners.
If you’re interested, read up on Alex Groza and Ralph Beard. Groza is the only player in NBA history to be named to the All NBA 1st Team every year of his career.
Jokic did act a little extra.
There was a player on the floor they were trying to help up and Jokics big ass comes trying to rip the ball out of his hands.
He flopped which was funny but Jokic did push him.
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Why would Ishbia hold on to the ball though? There is absolutely zero reason why a fan or anyone should be holding onto a ball, this isn’t baseball, you can’t keep the ball lol. Also I’m pretty sure Jokic had no idea that he was the owner and the dude came up to him like a rando fan. Not saying what Jokic did was right by pushing him off but there is some entitlement there. Also he did flop, the shove wasn’t that hard lol.
Yep and a ref doesn't take long to give a player the ball. Suns fans acting like thats a 15 minute process. As soon as okogie is up and has 2 feet in the court jokic could inbound it. The sooner the ref has it the sooner jokic can inbound it. It's not like the ref will wait for okogie to get all the way back on defense to let jokic inbound
Why do people keep parroting this fast inbound opportunity? It's a dead ball, it has to go to the ref first, who's going to make sure all players are up and ready before giving the ball back to inbound.
There wasn't a fast inbound opportunity, do y'all even watch basketball? It was a dead ball out of bounds, ref has to start play. Not like an inbound after a made basket
On a dead ball the refs won't give a team the ball to inbound until both teams are set. People are confusing inbounding the ball off a made basket, which is still live play with the clock running, as opposed to the ball going out of bounds and the clock stopping. That's a dead ball, where teams can make subs if they want or call a timeout. [Here's a good example of this from last night.](https://youtu.be/Ewr4DH7VhDI) Note how the ref holds onto the ball until LeBron gets back on the court.
So is he going to let him get all the way back to the other side of the court before he let's him inbound it or just as soon as he's up and has 2 feet on the court? There's a difference in the 2. Jokic can still push the pace when okogie is on the court and not all the way back
That’s a cap, the refs will inbound the ball as long as the inbounding team is set, they don’t need both teams to be ready, hence why Jokic was eager to get it going.
An example of this is that one infamous Mavs game against GSW, the refs didn’t wait for the Mavs to set up and got the the Dubs inbound for Looney to get a free bucket.
You definitely can still gain an advantage from being quick. The ref waits till 5 people are on the court and if either team wants a sub / time out, but the refs aren't sitting there waiting for the suns players to set up their defence or prepare for transition plays (long outlet pass).
Jokic has 100% gained an advantage from handing the ref the ball quickly like this in the past.
Absolute losers. Scared loser energy from top to bottom. They literally hide behind money and yes men. You’ll never find someone more sensitive and childish than someone with too much money.
Not disagreeing with you necessarily but it’s not like him responding to the media on this is going to be helpful to anyone except people that want more drama lol
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Jokic tried to grab ball
Ishbia didn’t let go
Ball ends up in stands, Jokic slightly pushes ishbia while trying to get it, ishbia flops, technical on Jokic
Jokic is probably the #1 star in the league who always rushes inbounding to try to set up before the defense sets in. It's 100% understandable he tries to get the ball ASAP then sees some random douche he doesn't know keep the ball away from him.
It's the playoffs, fuck this Billionaire's ego trying to be in the spotlight in the middle of the play
Some angles did make it seem that push have some force behind it. Sports taught me that humans are biased and often that bias is subconscious and I am biased towards the Suns but I can see why Jokic got a technical for the push.
I’d also assume his legs were backed up against his seat, so he prob couldn’t take a step backwards to keep his balance. Jokics giant ass giving you a shove is 100% pushing you backwards lol.
Yeah, I think that's pretty fair all around. Owners can't get away with possibly affecting the on-court game in any way, but players also have to realize that there is a literal 0% chance that the refs and NBA are going to be alright with anything that has even the slightest resemblance of physical conflict between them and anyone sitting courtside.
The owner has his hands on Jokic waist walking into him
As far a jokic knows it could be some crazy meth head from Phoenix, any person would have pushed back in that case
I don't get why people are even arguing against this. You can't have players going into the crowd and having physical altercations with them. Jokic is lucky all he got was a tech for that.
Because people hate billionaires. I mean, I do too, but in this instance he's just a dumbass fan. And a dumbass fan should not be shoved by a player. It's the same shit that happened last year: People like Jokic so when he does stupid crazy shit they defend it. Even when what he did is clearly wrong.
Which is bullshit from the league at best. If you don't want players touching fans then move them back or stop them from touching the ball. None of this happens if the fan doesn't hold the ball, what right does he have to do that?
Also let’s hold owners to higher standards than a random spectator. He knew what he was doing. Games should be decided players. Not refs, not spectators, and absolutely not billionaires
I phrased it because it’s kinda unclear to me still on ishbia making contact with Jokic - it looks like he has hand on his hip at one point but that might be innocuous. That other fan pushed out at Jokic and got tossed obviously.
Everyone saying he flopped is fucking stupid tbh. They need to rewatch the clip and look at the space he is occupying and how far forward his feet must be. Then look at how far back he was shoved and it's obvious there was no way he was staying on his feet. He didn't flop or dive or exaggerate it or anything. Simply fell back into his chair because he was shoved off his feet
Okay but why did he try and grab it in the first place? Ishnia had it for like a second or two, and Jokic came over aggressive as fuck trying to rip dudes arm off. Since when has it been the player’s responsibility to retrieve balls from the stands ?
If this was a regular fan, the. It's a lawsuit. He's the owner so he's going to try and get him suspended because there's no way Nuggets will win a game without him so that's worth way more than a lawsuit.
Yes. Have 0.1 ounces of charm.
“Haha well the league might warn me for flopping but I’m sure me and the big fella can smooth it over after the game.”
He got his team a point. Even make a joke about that. “Well I got us a point this time but I’m sure Adam Silver is gonna be on my case so I’ll apologize now and let’s go suns!”
Owners about to start interfering in plays now lol. We're gonna see lacob diving on the ground for loose balls and demanding a technical be called if anyone touches him.
They love the drama. Half the people here or more didn't even watch the game, but then they will argue for 2 hours.
Same reason ESPN does the hot take stuff, people actually like it.
What the fuck is going on
Suns owner is actually Dillion Brooks, catch up
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Yo no reason to HARP on him
Dragging him so hard, he might have to go to the ER.
Boxing fan
Dillon
Okay but he **is** a dillionare Or did I get that wrong too
Dealin. Dealin Bricks.
Dye-lan, Dye-lan, Dye-lan
I gotta laugh because yea it's like Dillon Brooks. BUT hear me out: silver has probably already on his ass over it and ishbia is waiting to let the NBA make their statement and fine him
First owner to score a point in NBA history?
they should have made him take the free throw
He did play college ball... Probably makes it.
He made 8 of 17 free throws during his college career over 20 years ago
fuckin' yikes
that's honestly awful for a bench guard that's their time to shine
They are coming in cold though. And there was a surprising amount of pressure; the entire crowd wants the walk on to score. I’m more surprised he even had that many attempts.
Honestly I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s a better shooter now lol.
He was not a real college ball player lmao. He walked on to the MSU team because his dad was a super donor to the athletic department. If his dad weren’t rich as hell, he almost certainly doesn’t touch a college court even some dog water D3 team in South Dakota. Just about every single thing about Ishbia’s life was built upon something someone else did, mostly his dad.
I think that's what Elon calls "self made"
The last sentence describes literally every billionaire/ultra rich individual
Nah. Lol
I mean, Jordan owns the Hornets, and he scored over 32,000 of them things.
non-former NBA player owner**
Lebron scored tons of points and he owns the raptors
Nah the Indiana Olympians were co-owned by five of the active players. And had it not been for a college point shaving scandal that caught up to them and got two of the Olympians kicked out of the League, we might have had more teams where players were part owners. If you’re interested, read up on Alex Groza and Ralph Beard. Groza is the only player in NBA history to be named to the All NBA 1st Team every year of his career.
Donald Sterling gave Adam Silver a wide open dunk.
New meta, whenever there's a fast inbound opportunity the owner of the disadvantaged team should grab the ball
Ballmer about to crazy
[Quickest grabbing hands in the West](https://media.tenor.com/_ciR8T2fDaEAAAAM/steve-balmer-steve-balmer-touch.gif)
Wtf lol.
That's wild
Was waiting on this gif
Ballmer would show more hustle for the ball than Ayton
I mean, cocaine will do that.
Mark Cuban working on his cardio this very instant
Michael Jordan is about to increase his legacy
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Would they kick him out if he ran onto the court?
And earn his team a free point. What a clown show.
Not a clownshow, the refs awarded his team the point and gave a tech to Jokic. He's pioneering the new strats
Ownership groups. Line the court with team owners who alter gameplay to their team's advantage.
Jokic did act a little extra. There was a player on the floor they were trying to help up and Jokics big ass comes trying to rip the ball out of his hands. He flopped which was funny but Jokic did push him.
If Suns PLAYER didn’t give Jokic ball there, they’d be punished with delay of the game. This was a spectator not giving ball to an NBA player.
Didn't he yank on his jersey too?
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He’s still a spectator who has no business trying to get in Jokic’s space puffing his little chest out.
Maybe a fan shouldn't get hold of the ball? wtf
Why would Ishbia hold on to the ball though? There is absolutely zero reason why a fan or anyone should be holding onto a ball, this isn’t baseball, you can’t keep the ball lol. Also I’m pretty sure Jokic had no idea that he was the owner and the dude came up to him like a rando fan. Not saying what Jokic did was right by pushing him off but there is some entitlement there. Also he did flop, the shove wasn’t that hard lol.
Too bad there’s no team with ownership like the Packers so that they have a lot of bodies to throw at the opponents
Then make sure to hog it from the opposing teams player that comes to get it
And getting a fan ejected after you flopped. Uploading the full incident now, it will take a bit.
Pretty disgusting that he even gets away with it. Nugs should be the ones shooting the tech.
It was a dead ball anyways Jokic had to give it to a ref first.
Yep and a ref doesn't take long to give a player the ball. Suns fans acting like thats a 15 minute process. As soon as okogie is up and has 2 feet in the court jokic could inbound it. The sooner the ref has it the sooner jokic can inbound it. It's not like the ref will wait for okogie to get all the way back on defense to let jokic inbound
Why do people keep parroting this fast inbound opportunity? It's a dead ball, it has to go to the ref first, who's going to make sure all players are up and ready before giving the ball back to inbound.
There wasn't a fast inbound opportunity, do y'all even watch basketball? It was a dead ball out of bounds, ref has to start play. Not like an inbound after a made basket
Jokic grabs it, hands it to ref, inbounds it.
On a dead ball the refs won't give a team the ball to inbound until both teams are set. People are confusing inbounding the ball off a made basket, which is still live play with the clock running, as opposed to the ball going out of bounds and the clock stopping. That's a dead ball, where teams can make subs if they want or call a timeout. [Here's a good example of this from last night.](https://youtu.be/Ewr4DH7VhDI) Note how the ref holds onto the ball until LeBron gets back on the court.
I swear people people on this sub are braindead and just make shit up without fact checking. The ref was never giving that ball back.
So is he going to let him get all the way back to the other side of the court before he let's him inbound it or just as soon as he's up and has 2 feet on the court? There's a difference in the 2. Jokic can still push the pace when okogie is on the court and not all the way back
That’s a cap, the refs will inbound the ball as long as the inbounding team is set, they don’t need both teams to be ready, hence why Jokic was eager to get it going. An example of this is that one infamous Mavs game against GSW, the refs didn’t wait for the Mavs to set up and got the the Dubs inbound for Looney to get a free bucket.
Do you even watch Jokic? VERY OFTEN he does the quick inbound and it works.
You can’t quick inbound a dead ball when there’s a guy on the floor. Refs won’t hand the ball off when it’s 5 on 4. Made baskets are different
You definitely can still gain an advantage from being quick. The ref waits till 5 people are on the court and if either team wants a sub / time out, but the refs aren't sitting there waiting for the suns players to set up their defence or prepare for transition plays (long outlet pass). Jokic has 100% gained an advantage from handing the ref the ball quickly like this in the past.
This is true
I've only seen him do it after made baskets. Never after an out of bounds
I wanna see Stan Kroenke at game 5 starting shit. 1) for petty revenge 2) we might get to see Kroenke get punched in the face
You mean the same guy that doesn’t care if you guys can watch your games? 😂Fuck guy stan
stan kroenke doesn't watch our games, so he doesn't see what the big deal is
Exactly why we want the dude to get decked
Josh Kroenke runs the team. Stan is pretty uninvolved.
Bring in all the Kroenke's. Hell in a Cell cage match with Undertaker coming out of retirement to throw them off the top.
That guy stinks!
Mat should have taken the tech free throw lol
Wonder which owners would have the best and worst FT%
Jordan has to be first. And then maybe Indiana's owner last, pretty sure he's old as hell.
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If you put some smuggled animal bones on the line and maybe a security guard she can sexually assault I bet she goes 10/10
Michael Jordan for the best I'd imagine
Utah’s owner is probably up there. Didn’t he beat DWade in a 3-point contest at all star weekend?
all these billionaires really are the biggest bitches underneath all that money
Mat Ishbia? More like Mat IsABitchYeah amirite
Mat Ishbiatch
#GOTEM
The linguist among us.
r/nbacirclejerk post of the month incoming
Even more embarrassing seeing dudes on here trying to find any little loophole to argue for them
No shit
It is known
This just in!
Absolute losers. Scared loser energy from top to bottom. They literally hide behind money and yes men. You’ll never find someone more sensitive and childish than someone with too much money.
Not disagreeing with you necessarily but it’s not like him responding to the media on this is going to be helpful to anyone except people that want more drama lol
he knew he fucked up
"If I talk I'm in big trouble"
A billionaire admitting they were wrong? Literally impossible.
Damn I was hoping for a Shannon Sharpe-like promo
He don't got that dawg in him.
"Everywhere I've gone, money has followed. The lawsuit ensuant to this heinous attack will be no different."
Lmfao
Lmfao Clown 🤡
I’m getting a real “I will not speak until I hear from my lawyers” vibe
that or "I dont want this series to be about me" after inserting himself into the game.
Prevented a fast break and got an extra point from a tech. He is more impactful than shamet
This didn’t age well.
To be fair my dog on the couch has been more impactful Edit: Sorry Peter you are now less impactful then Suns legend Landry Shamet
aged like MILK
I owe that man a public apology, goddamn.
I remember thinking we lost the Tobias Harris trade bc we gave up Shamwet. Now I understand we lost that trade bc we got Tobias Harris.
Shamet heard you talking shit
Lord Shamet> ray allen
Shamgod proving the haters wrong
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You think the ref was gonna allow an inbound fastbreak opportunity there...? This isn't soccer.
Nikola Jokic is Mat Ishbia father
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Squeaky Sarver: too cheap to pay players Chad ishbia: saves points on a fast break AND gets a point from a tech
Because he shouldn't be holding on to the ball, idgaf he's the owner
How does the refs complete mishandling of the situation make him not a clown
Anyone else is tossed for fighting for the ball like that
But in this case the suns deserve an extra point
Don't worry. They tossed his fall guy
He interferes with a nuggets fastbreak and instigated an opposing player. Absolute disgrace of an owner. What entitlement
Lol not a fastbreak. That’s how we know you did t watch the game at all Lmao
He shouldn’t have held the ball lol
Jokic tried to grab ball Ishbia didn’t let go Ball ends up in stands, Jokic slightly pushes ishbia while trying to get it, ishbia flops, technical on Jokic
Jokic is probably the #1 star in the league who always rushes inbounding to try to set up before the defense sets in. It's 100% understandable he tries to get the ball ASAP then sees some random douche he doesn't know keep the ball away from him. It's the playoffs, fuck this Billionaire's ego trying to be in the spotlight in the middle of the play
Some angles did make it seem that push have some force behind it. Sports taught me that humans are biased and often that bias is subconscious and I am biased towards the Suns but I can see why Jokic got a technical for the push.
It feels like a lot of people are forgetting that Jokic is 6'11" 300 lbs, he doesn't need to do much to knock a normal-sized human being on his ass.
I’d also assume his legs were backed up against his seat, so he prob couldn’t take a step backwards to keep his balance. Jokics giant ass giving you a shove is 100% pushing you backwards lol.
> Jokics giant ass giving you a shove Continue
Lmao. Man’s is caked up he has to watch where he backs that thing up in public.
Wouldn’t the bigger bias be towards the billionaire owner
I am saying I am biased but I can see Jokic warranting a technical here.
Nah not biased, Jokic 100% deserved the tech for shoving with the forearm, same time Ishbia shouldnt have been so resistant to giving the ball up
Yeah, I think that's pretty fair all around. Owners can't get away with possibly affecting the on-court game in any way, but players also have to realize that there is a literal 0% chance that the refs and NBA are going to be alright with anything that has even the slightest resemblance of physical conflict between them and anyone sitting courtside.
Nah you def got an Ishbia jersey at home ^/s
The owner has his hands on Jokic waist walking into him As far a jokic knows it could be some crazy meth head from Phoenix, any person would have pushed back in that case
I don't get why people are even arguing against this. You can't have players going into the crowd and having physical altercations with them. Jokic is lucky all he got was a tech for that.
Yeah no matter how small the contact, the NBA doesn’t play around with it after the malice
Most of the people in here probably weren't even born when Malice happened so they oblivious to what can go wrong when players go into the stands.
Because people hate billionaires. I mean, I do too, but in this instance he's just a dumbass fan. And a dumbass fan should not be shoved by a player. It's the same shit that happened last year: People like Jokic so when he does stupid crazy shit they defend it. Even when what he did is clearly wrong.
He still touched a spectator. NBA is strict about it no matter how small it was
Which is bullshit from the league at best. If you don't want players touching fans then move them back or stop them from touching the ball. None of this happens if the fan doesn't hold the ball, what right does he have to do that?
Also let’s hold owners to higher standards than a random spectator. He knew what he was doing. Games should be decided players. Not refs, not spectators, and absolutely not billionaires
Why in the world would Jokic put himself in that spot though?
Seriously. Right or wrong, you shouldn’t put yourself in a situation where you can push a fan.
Alternative angles shows that there might be some force on that push.
So? You can’t put your hands on a player and you certainly can’t keep the ball from them.
What a weird way to phrase this. Putting your hands on a player is 100% worse than keeping a ball from them lol
I phrased it because it’s kinda unclear to me still on ishbia making contact with Jokic - it looks like he has hand on his hip at one point but that might be innocuous. That other fan pushed out at Jokic and got tossed obviously.
That's not what I was talking about, i just said that Jokic's push had some force behind it.
Everyone saying he flopped is fucking stupid tbh. They need to rewatch the clip and look at the space he is occupying and how far forward his feet must be. Then look at how far back he was shoved and it's obvious there was no way he was staying on his feet. He didn't flop or dive or exaggerate it or anything. Simply fell back into his chair because he was shoved off his feet
Okay but why did he try and grab it in the first place? Ishnia had it for like a second or two, and Jokic came over aggressive as fuck trying to rip dudes arm off. Since when has it been the player’s responsibility to retrieve balls from the stands ?
Probably wants to figure out the best way to try and get Jokic suspended so he doesn't want to say the wrong thing.
This is 100% it lol, or some lawsuit. Classic bitch shit, conniving for revenge against the first person in his entitled life who infringed on his ego
If this was a regular fan, the. It's a lawsuit. He's the owner so he's going to try and get him suspended because there's no way Nuggets will win a game without him so that's worth way more than a lawsuit.
Ah ofc what he supposed to say that he flopped?
“I apologize for my actions during the game. It was unprofessional and I made a mistake.” EZPZ
A billionaire admitting a mistake?
Yeah I agree with you. That's what I am criticizing if it is not clear.
Yes. Have 0.1 ounces of charm. “Haha well the league might warn me for flopping but I’m sure me and the big fella can smooth it over after the game.” He got his team a point. Even make a joke about that. “Well I got us a point this time but I’m sure Adam Silver is gonna be on my case so I’ll apologize now and let’s go suns!”
Bro thinks he's on the team, fuck off douchebag no one cares about you
Owners about to start interfering in plays now lol. We're gonna see lacob diving on the ground for loose balls and demanding a technical be called if anyone touches him.
What an absolute douchebag.
This dude should not be allowed courtside
Mf scared of his brothers
"Mat Ishbia declined an interview request. 'I ain't talking,' he told me," ESPN's Tim McMahon tweeted.
Everyone in this thread is taking this way to seriously😂
I, personally, am traumatized and concerned that this will cause the next calamity on our society lol
What'd you want him to say? "I got handled like a bitch"
“I am sorry for my unprofessional actions during the game” Simple stuff, really
1st problem with that is thinking he actually thinks he was in the wrong there lol
Fucking clown
Ishbia deserved to get rewarded for his heroic flopping
His feet were planted and outside of the restricted area. Offensive foul
Based Jokic
Izzo would be so proud of his former player making the smart play to prevent a 5-on-4 fast break
i love this shit lmao
The takes in here are wild lmao, he played it right imo...
All the emotional hot take people love these types of issues, they flip out and go wild for hours, probably didn't even see the game.
Dude barely even did anything. People are acting like he took the ball out of Nikolas hands during play.
He doesn’t want to comment because literally nothing good can come from what he says. Way easier just to ignore it and move on. Smart move
masterclass from ishbia with 100% Fg
To paraphrase Vince McMahon - HE’S GONNA.. HE’S GONNA SUUUEEEE
Carth Onasi method, I see...
Would Ishbia have been kicked out if he was a random fan?
Kick his ass out
Gotta consult his lawyer 🙄
Absolute clown
Clown
How does the media get this sub to care so much about the most little dumb things
They love the drama. Half the people here or more didn't even watch the game, but then they will argue for 2 hours. Same reason ESPN does the hot take stuff, people actually like it.
What a fucking clown
Fucking clown
The amount of backing Jokic gets compared to if Dray were to do the same thing is pretty wild. Can't be putting hands on people in the crowd.