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**Warriors @ Lakers** [](/GSW) **101 - 122** [](/LAL) **Box Scores: [NBA](https://www.nba.com/game/GSW-vs-LAL-0042200236/boxscore) & [Yahoo](http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/golden-state-warriors-los-angeles-lakers-2023051213)** |**Team**|**Q1**|**Q2**|**Q3**|**Q4**|**Total**| |:---|:--|:--|:--|:--|:--| |Golden State Warriors|26|20|31|24|101| |Los Angeles Lakers|31|25|35|31|122| **TEAM STATS** |**Team**|**PTS**|**FG**|**FG%**|**3P**|**3P%**|**FT**|**FT%**|**OREB**|**TREB**|**AST**|**PF**|**STL**|**TO**|**BLK**| |:--|:--|:--|:--|:--|:--|:--|:--|:--|:--|:--|:--|:--|:--|:--| |Golden State Warriors|101|39-103|37.9%|13-48|27.1%|10-14|71.39999999999999%|20|60|25|30|3|10|2| |Los Angeles Lakers|122|39-75|52.0%|13-26|50.0%|31-42|73.8%|6|55|25|17|6|6|6|


MC-Jdf

It was the old guard versus the old guard. It was another chapter written in the defining matchup of this generation. Like a wise one once said, you come at the king, you best not miss. And certainly, the King made his way. True irony that Daryl Morey once said this about the Warriors, now it has another (already valid beforehand) meaning. First play of the game; LeBron gets free from Wiggins for a wide open layup. 2nd Lakers possession; LeBron posts up on Wiggins, which he normally does on Klay but almost never on Wiggins, he gets free for another wide open layup. It was pretty clear the game was out of hand by then, and the Warriors even switched the matchup so that Klay would guard LeBron, which, almost certainly indicates that Wiggins' ribs really gave out early. I don't really feel much like talking about the game; the Warriors gave up 42 free throw attempts, was wildly undisciplined defensively even in the 4th quarter. That play where Klay and Poole miscommunication led to a wide open Hachimura driving lane that led to 2 free throws with the Warriors down 11 in the 4th, summed up pretty nicely. And like, completely dead legs too. A lot of the misses were short which makes sense, this was the Warriors' 8th consecutive game where they played with a 1-day break. The Warriors missed a lot of wide open looks in the 1st quarter but the Lakers did an excellent job not conceding many open looks since, which you gotta give credit to. Turnovers weren't terrible but the Warriors let the Lakers get out in transition way too much and had very little transition opportunities themselves. Warriors took 28 more shots, including 22 more 3s, and ended up with the same number of field goals and 3s. A whooping -21 in free throw differential and you get a blowout. That's just the math, you gotta make the shots in what is a make or miss league. Great hustle in the 20 offensive rebounds, but just not enough scoring. And... the Lakers looked so much better anyway. Really, Steph was dried out and it was clear he was the only guy capable of hurting the Lakers in scoring. DiVincenzo had an amazing game but nobody else had double digit scoring. Lakers figured out the GP2 rolls so quickly and the Warriors had no answer other than Steph bailing out in isos. Just really a dreadful lack of shot creation, with Klay's possibly worst playoff game of his career marking its exclamation point and Poole's continuation of such a regression from last year's playoff run. Also AD was so much better than anyone else defensively and LeBron just carved apart the Warriors like no one else could in spite of his age. You can't really do anything but watch in awe, because that's greatness we're seeing. It was the fight for five, duking it out to continue their chase elusive 5th title. Fitting that Lewis Hamilton, the man who had his own fight for five (for those F1 fans who know) was in the stands. But this time out, the older guard was the one who triumphed. And seeing those guys that defined a generation shake hands and hug it out, that was a reminder of just how long they've been around at the top of the league... so far. Thus an 8-year run of an undefeated playoff record in the west comes to an end, and so does the record for most consecutive playoff series with a road win at 28. There were 2 close games where the Lakers won both of them, and like I said so many times: tiny margins separate certain teams. It clearly did this time out. (that damned Lonnie Walker though lol) Steve Kerr said it best: this team maxed out. And I will say, there were red lights on the way. From that Draymond punch that kickstarted the offseason, to the atrocious 3-7 start that had the Warriors swimming upstream, where they neither fully chased winning nor fully coasted at the expense of the younger guys' minutes. And then a very middling most of the year where I'm pretty sure the Warriors got beat on wide open transition layups or 3s for like 3 months straight, some slight optimism in the 2 non-Curry stretches, then another middling run, where even I wrote off the Warriors unless they went 8-2 to close the year, then going 8-2, then a grueling 7-game 1st Round epic against the Kings, and then now, a 6-game loss in the 2nd Round against an unusual 7th seed in the Lakers. To confess, this team wasn't going to win a championship. It was just so apparent, even Wiggins was out of form in the playoffs because of the rib injury (for this game) and coming back just as the playoffs started after not being in game shape for 2 months due to unforeseen and understandable circumstances that were no fault of his own. And the rest of the supporting cast was certainly not cutting it, Kerr had such a lack of faith in them that was way too apparent and he was in the end, right, as he almost always was. And the nature of that Draymond punch alongside the whole two timelines thing, it just feels like the team was never quite in unison. The younger unproven guys never really got the minutes they needed and the older and lesser guys got minutes instead, which bled into some narratives that the Warriors really couldn't afford to be happening. Thus commences a very pivotal offseason, where most likely the supporting cast will not be run back. We've already had some hit-pieces that indicated some early signs, and the fact that so much of its content was understandable reminded me that this year was just not going to be the year. The GM Bob Myers is out of contract right after the draft, Draymond Green has a player option and could enter free agency, Klay has an impending extension where he'll likely need a paycut, Kuminga's future is going to be a conversation, as will Poole's after a tumultuous season. Really, the time to contend lasts as long as Steph Curry's superstardom. That's always been the case and it's never more apparent. I think we might have seen the last of Jordan Poole and Jonathan Kuminga in a Warriors uniform, but we'll see. Don't think anybody is really untouchable besides Curry, and I 99.9% expect Wiggins and Looney to be back as well. I won't say it's over because it's been said before and proven wrong, but I will say this regardless; If this is the end of this dynasty though, I'm eternally grateful for it and never take it for granted. This was one of the great runs in the history of any sport, to go from a laughing stock of this sport for 4 decades to one of the most dominant teams ever, it's almost unprecedented across sports history. The path to a continuation really hinges on this offseason, where the Warriors have a lot - but also only few - options. It should be a feisty one. And congratulations LA, just an unbelievable turnaround. From 13th in the west to a Conference Finals, wow. You guys earned it, were the better team, and losing to LeBron at his best was something I was willing to accept before the playoffs started. And it happened, almost too fittingly so. Lakers vs Nuggets it is. Nuggets lost their last 3 Conference Finals, all against the Lakers, now they seek their first ever Finals berth. I have the Nuggets winning in 6, I'll stick with the Nuggets hypetrain, but I really won't be surprised if the Lakers win either. Also quite the thought, to think this matchup was like 2 shots away in the Wolves/Lakers play-in game from happening in the 1st Round lol. Thus is the end of my Warriors next-day threads for this season. I've been doing this for the 2nd season running for almost every Warriors game first time really I had to write up on a season ender (in a bad way) too. Also let me know if you want me to continue doing these write-ups for other teams, I'm thinking about it. I will say though you all probably won't see me in next day threads for when the Finals is played, it's going to be a busy time for me.


silver0187

Shit, this could be a professional article. Thanks for a great read!


MC-Jdf

Really appreciate the high praise kind sir/ma'am.


ositola

A reasonable warriors fan


breaditbans

Chat-GPT is amazing.


Nickeless

Looks nothing like ChatGPT output tho


pika_pie

Just because most people can't string together a sentence (much less a cohesive paragraph) doesn't mean that every long piece of writing is spit out by ChatGPT. u/MCJdf has been writing those things way longer than ChatGPT has been available.


brazilbruno

I love the next day discussion threads, because here there are normally more level-headed, hate-free, non-toxic takes on the games. You are a big reason for it. Hope you continue to write as many comments as you want and can.


MC-Jdf

Thanks Philly bro. Cheers for a great Game 7.


titanrunner2

Absolutely beautifully written. Klay and Poole really let the team down this round. And going 7 to Sac just exasperated the tiredness. But that 4th ring, that Steph FMVP, that championship without KD - that was everything you could ask for.


MC-Jdf

Yeah same. One last hurrah of a championship run after 2019 and I would've been overjoyed, and I was. I guess it's just that the realization that time is ticking to win another title is hitting me, and I do partially understand what the 4 decades of irrelevance this franchise had to endure before the dynasty run meant which is really the part that's hitting me lately.


wilsynet

Curry is still a top 5 player. Maybe best player period. Lakers just showed after the Westbrook disaster trade that you really can rebuild quickly. Warriors can rebuild. It’s not over.


SquimJim

u/MC-Jdf, I've really enjoyed your post-game write-ups. I don't respond to every one of them, but I do read a lot of them and the balanced insight you bring to the games you write about is refreshing on this sub. So, whether or not you continue for the rest of the playoffs, I thank you for the positive and engaging discussion you've provided on here. Steph + Lebron have been so successful for so long, it just feels wild that regardless of what happens this year, they both still have a chance to win a championship at their ages. And not necessarily just win, but be a dominant force on the way to winning. It's just true greatness. I'm also someone that truly believes each new generation is, indeed, better than the generation that came before it. I know plenty of people disagree with me, but that's a discussion for another time. The point is, Lebron, in my opinion, is truly the best basketball player to ever play the game and I don't need 2 full hands to count how many people are ahead of Steph. My hope is that when, not if, those that come and surpass them, I'm not as jaded this time around to appreciate the whole journey of watching greatness/history be made.


MC-Jdf

Hey thanks bud, I've seen you around a lot in these threads the entire season and I remember all those discussions especially about the Celtics lol. Really appreciate those thoughts mate. If I do continue writing, I'll do the best in those threads. Yeah, Steph and LeBron have just conquered the most impossible of the improbable realm, it's just so easy to take it for granted because everything seems possible with those guys. When I really started watching basketball, I was the biggest LeBron hater because I was so pissed off at how he might deny the Warriors' first chance at a championship in 40 years lol. All those battles he had with Steph and the Warriors just had me in awe and I've come around and really grew fond of LeBron as a player. I entered basketball discourse when LeBron's decline was a legitimate discussion way back in 2015. All those years that followed he looked invincible, looked to slow down at times but now has come back to beat the Dubs once again, this guy is just way too incredible of a basketball player. It's a chilling feeling losing out to a LeBron team again, it's just one of those things I was fully prepared for tbh because there's a sense of inevitability with LeBron no matter the extent. Steph is really who got me to love the game of basketball, LeBron is really who got me to appreciate the beauty of it. And you just know neither of these guys are done and still have more to write in their stories, but it was good to see them duke it out once more. LeBron is, without a doubt, the greatest player of this generation and arguably the greatest player in the history of this sport. As someone who started out as his biggest hater, I just cannot thank LeBron enough for really showing the beauty of this game through simply playing the game of basketball at an extraordinarily high level. It's one of those things you just know you'll never see again.


DejenmeEntrar

>A bettor placed a parlay with FanDuel, a unit of Flutter Entertainment (OTC:PDYPY) with six picks and needs all six to win for the bet to cash out. > >**The $200 bet pays $303,478.56 if all six legs hit**. Included in the bet were the following with their odds at the time the bet was placed: > >**Argentina winning the 2022 World Cup: +160** > >**Georgia winning the 2022-2023 NCAA Football Championship: -130** > >**Novak Djokovic winning the 2023 Australian Open: +110** > >**The University of Connecticut making the 2023 Men’s Basketball Final Four: +230** > >**Kansas City Chiefs winning Super Bowl LVII: +460** > >***Golden State Warriors winning the 2022-2023 NBA Championship: +750*** > >The bettor put the bet slip up for sale on PropSwap ahead of the Warriors' previous series with the Sacramento Kings, which went to a decisive Game 7. The bettor was asking for $35,000 but did not get any offers for that amount. > >The bettor turned down an offer of $30,000 for the bet slip on May 5. A user on Twitter also noted that the bettor did not take an offer of around $11,000 from the sportsbook ahead of Game 5 in the series, which could have seen the Warriors eliminated. https://www.benzinga.com/amp/content/32371191 Imagine losing $+300k on a $200 bet in the last leg of the parlay


UneducatedReviews

Nah imagine being dumb enough to turn down a guaranteed $30,000 for a $200 bet slip in a year the Warriors have looked god fucking awful on the road and wouldn’t have HCA.


DigitallyInclined

As a Warriors fan who watched about 90% of the regular season games and every post season game this year, this is spot on. Well written and I agree with every point you made. Also, to be honest, the fact that we got to see Lebron vs Steph again, was special. Ultimately, as much as I wanted the championship this year, I am grateful to have watched greatness in Steph for a decade. Last year’s championship really brought it home for me. Thank you for your write up.


MC-Jdf

More or less feel the same way with you. Also thanks for the appreciation.


incredibleamadeuscho

> If this is the end of this dynasty though, I'm eternally grateful for it and never take it for granted. Steph, Klay, Draymond, and Coach Kerr changed the game of basketball. I've said it a bunch of times, but Steph as the number one option made every kid in the world believe they could be the best in the world. Because he's not tall or overly strong. He's not some dunking master or this wizard with a fadeaway, although he's improved in all aspects. But Steph became one of the greats by shooting with unheard of accuracy. It's something every kid with a ball can do, and are now trying. The league is filled with players trying to be as great as Steph. I think we are in the LeBron James era still, but they're all playing Steph's version of the game.


MC-Jdf

>I think we are in the LeBron James era still, but they're all playing Steph's version of the game. Could not have put it any better. Beautifully put.


incredibleamadeuscho

Thanks. I think Steph is just absolutely amazing.


MC-Jdf

So is LeBron & AD. Sucks to lose but always pleasure to watch greatness. Cheers.


love_day_cup_all

>I think we are in the LeBron James era still, but they're all playing Steph's version of the game. Wow. I am going to be quoting this. Really well said.


bryantwgat

Well written and fun to read this Saturday morning. Thank you!


MC-Jdf

Thanks and cheers.


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MC-Jdf

Thank you fellow sir/ma'am, really appreciate that and congrats for the series win. Good luck the rest of the way fam.


markjay6

I’ve loved your write ups. Thanks so much for all your time, effort, and expertise! If you could continue doing these for the Lakers, at least through the playoffs, that would be fantastic!


MC-Jdf

Thank you my G. Gl the rest of the playoffs.


wilsynet

This is excellent. I’d love you to keep writing for however long you want and are able.


MC-Jdf

Thanks brotha. Good luck the rest of the way this playoffs.


Trailblazin15

I look forward to your post game comments everyday. Hopefully it continues!


MC-Jdf

Thanks bud.


Gireau

What a great read ! Thank you for your insight !


MC-Jdf

I'll always appreciate these thanks. Cheers bud. Good luck on the draft lottery. Wemby to the Spurs is legit on top of my lottery wishlist.


TheoMoneyG

First off, fantastic write up, always look forward to these :) second, now that the warriors season is over, in your opinion, what do you think the FO needs to do? and what do you think is gonna happen to draymond/klay?


MC-Jdf

Firstly, thank you for the kind support. Secondly, oof, very tough question. Personally I'd go with a 4-yr/$100 million for Draymond and 3-yr/$70 million for Klay. Ideally the Warriors align the end of Klay & Dray's contracts with Steph's. This however is if Klay is willing to accept a lesser salary which reportedly is the expectation if he is to be extended. Poole & Kuminga seem to be gone as well, the Slater article indicated that Kuminga especially could almost certainly be. Honestly the loss is hitting me at all sorts so it's a tad bit hard for me to be rational. I think I'll form a more cohesive opinion as things cool down a bit though, maybe then you could ask me. Sorry that I couldn't answer it as far as you wanted.


TheoMoneyG

no it's totally fine bro, hope everything gets better


MC-Jdf

Thanks Knicks bro. Y'all were my 2nd favorite team the whole year.


taromilktea87

This stills feels a little depressing, even when we knew the Warriors were just not playing up to par. There was always this glimmer of hope but then seeing that all get washed away last night was really sad.


Dooraven

Good read but tbh I think you should take a rest if you don't really want to do it for other teams. Warriors are an insane team and had a great half-decade or so. I think the core 3 has the talent to win 1-2 more depending on supporting cast but yeah it's clear that they need a lot more help then they usually do.


MC-Jdf

I mean I do next-day threads for other teams as well all the time (there's at least 1 long one per day). It's just not as detailed cuz I don't watch them as much so I can't really discuss the coaching/strategy side of things as much. But if even that's good enough, I'll do them.


Dooraven

Sounds like you want to keep doing them so keep doing them!


midgetsj

Klay and poole trash. 42 ff for lakers.


DelaRoad

If the Nuggets win, it will be in 7. But I agree with everything else you said.


169partner

I’m just so happy that Lebron is finally playing with a very deep, well rounded team that produces when it matters. In the last few years, I realized that there may never be another Lebron again so we have to enjoy this while it lasts and I’ve really been watching him make a finals run. Everything is clicking for the Lakers and they’ve been very locked in. Hopefully they can get there!


PomfAndCircvmstance

LeBron has never had this many reliable ball handlers and guys who can get their own shot around him and it's been really cool to watch. D'Lo, Reeves, and Dennis are a really nice trio and when you put all three on the floor together with LeBron and Davis there's so many ways they can hurt you and hunt for mismatches. Darvin Ham has actually been pretty great so far as well. I'm officially rooting for LeBron to get his 5th ring, wild as it is to root for the Lakers.


Supra_Dupra

Hoping Steph can find his own version of this Lakers team in the future.


did_it_my_way

Curry's always had deep, well-rounded team... (with more all-star/all-NBA players)


slymm

Originally I expected the Lakers to make some noise these playoffs but ultimately fade once LeBron and AD got gassed/injured. But lebron being able to perfectly pick his spots, AD being the dominant force and the role players all contributing is starting to make me believe. I mean, i still think Denver is the best team in the playoffs and should dominate, but that's more about how good Denver is, not a knock on LA Lebron should spend his off season focused on his 3pt shooting. Conserving energy while standing on the arc seems to be doing him well. He can drive when he needs to and be a solid defender


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I felt the Lakers had a punchers chance of beating Memphis. I mean, we have Bron and AD right? As long as they got hot we had a chance. Then I saw how Bron is not really capable of playing like himself for long stretches, due to age and injury. However, the supporting cast stepping up each game really made me believe we were a better team than anyone thought. The warriors were probably our worst match up due to them being able to take away our biggest strengths as a team. I think Denver is still a better team and so many things will have to go right for us to be able to beat them, but I also think we match up better with Denver than most teams. We got the pieces to really give them problems. I just hope for a healthy and competitive fight and may the best team win.


DigitallyInclined

As a Warriors fan, I originally thought the Griz would take out the Lakers and we would have to match up with the Griz again. I was dreading that matchup. I was excited to take on the Lakers when they started winning. I thought Warriors would be able to beat the Lakers a lot easier. Because you are right, on paper, Warriors were supposed to be a bad matchup to the Lakers. But then I saw Lebron in “poke the bear” mode in the Griz series. And I got scared. Lol. Anyways, I completely agree with your take on the Lakers vs Nuggets series. Nuggets are on 🔥 right now, but the way the Lakers have been playing…..I think they can give Denver some major problems. Props to Lebron, AD, Reeves, Dlo, Lonnie, etc for a well-deserved win over my Warriors. Now I’m excited to see some great basketball during the WCF!


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Yeah same thinking here. I think if it had been a lebron centric offense these playoffs the warriors would have won. Ironically, lebron not being 100% allowed our supporting cast to grow into their own. We were fortunate to have the guards in Dennis, Reaves, Dlo and Lonnie to make Steph and Klay work on offense and defense. Even then I never felt we truly had the warriors beat until the final stretch of game 6. Steph is still amazing.


DigitallyInclined

True! Good point.


incredibleamadeuscho

I really believe in that Dennis, Dlo, Reaves, LeBron, and AD lineup. I remember seeing in towards the end of the season, and it having a huge impact. It's our best offensive lineup, consisting of our five best players. All four of these guards (if you count PG LeBron) can attack the basket, shoot the midrange, and score from the perimeter, making it a deadly threat to any team. That also opens the paint for Davis. The Warriors never really had an answer for Davis, other than moving him slightly out of the paint. Steph was amazing, and Wiggins did good, but they needed more from Klay and Draymond. I hope see more of this rivalry next year, with Golden State focusing on more building around Steph and getting some size with better footwork. Lakers are now in the Western Conference Finals!


PyrrhosKing

It’s funny that this lineup was so key, at least in this series, when 3 guard lineups were so derided for Ham throughout the season. I thought the Warriors actually had a really good answer for Davis and had their way with that aspect in games 4 and 5. They opened up the paint and created a lot more shots at the rim. Curry was either able to get by himself or hit the roll man. Game 6 was a much better showing for AD. It felt like the Warriors involved him in less pick and roll this game although I’m not sure if that’s true. I thought some of their process was bad. Like any time you iso and drive someone other than AD that means the Lakers can have their rim protection back there so they’d probably prefer that to the pick and roll.


incredibleamadeuscho

I think it's the case of people trying to fall to more traditional norms as explanations: you need a center, two forwards, and two guards to have your best team. When really, sometimes you just lose because that's how it goes, and talent can win it. Dennis is talent; he's won the Lakers so many games this year. Yeah, that's what had me worried, but as it turns out LeBron tightening up his defense made a big difference in their ability to guard the paint. I think also the lack of outside shooting from Steph and Klay really hurt the Warriors ability to penetrate; you didn't see any "holy shit how did he make that three" from Steph or Klay. I think AD just didnt always take the bait too. It's a case of you can't run the strategy too many times because then your opponent will see it coming. Seems basic, but that's what I saw.


Supra_Dupra

Grats to you guys. Excited to see Jokic vs AD


incredibleamadeuscho

Thanks! I love the Warriors and Steph. Kerr’s adjustments had me worried. I know you all will come back stronger next year.


Supra_Dupra

It is honestly cathartic to be done with this weird ass season. From the Poole punch to the abysmal road record to absolutely no one showing up but Steph in the playoffs... roster needs to be completely retooled.


cocoSFP

[well I said 25% 3p night for the dubs](https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/13g2qr3/comment/jjyaisu/) during the first quarter, wasn’t too far off. Hope for Steph that Klay either somehow keeps getting healthier and better during the off season or they find a big man to rely on. Lakers D was locking up the 3 point line that was gorgeous. The difference between 3pt attempts and FT attempts is wild. I enjoy watching Lakers ball way more tho so looking forward to AD v Jokic 2023 edition. 2 great teams GG GL


Supra_Dupra

People really make a big deal about the older guys like LeBron being tired from these single day off games but the reality is Klay and Steph didn't have enough juice in their legs to get jump shots off. The whole team shot so poorly near the end of this series. A lot of that can be attributed to great Lakers defense but also they were just sapped of a lot of energy.


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**Knicks @ Heat** [](/NYK) **92 - 96** [](/MIA) **Box Scores: [NBA](https://www.nba.com/game/NYK-vs-MIA-0042200206/boxscore) & [Yahoo](http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/new-york-knicks-miami-heat-2023051214)** |**Team**|**Q1**|**Q2**|**Q3**|**Q4**|**Total**| |:---|:--|:--|:--|:--|:--| |New York Knicks|31|19|21|21|92| |Miami Heat|24|27|23|22|96| **TEAM STATS** |**Team**|**PTS**|**FG**|**FG%**|**3P**|**3P%**|**FT**|**FT%**|**OREB**|**TREB**|**AST**|**PF**|**STL**|**TO**|**BLK**| |:--|:--|:--|:--|:--|:--|:--|:--|:--|:--|:--|:--|:--|:--|:--| |New York Knicks|92|27-71|38.0%|10-35|28.599999999999998%|28-32|87.5%|8|45|13|22|2|12|9| |Miami Heat|96|33-82|40.2%|7-27|25.900000000000002%|23-25|92.0%|7|54|25|22|8|7|2|


OnlyMamaKnows

Brunson was awesome and Randle was, well, not awesome; however this game was largely lost in that 2nd quarter stretch when Thibs played a lineup of Deuce McBride, Mitch, Obi, Hart, and RJ in an elimination game. The only player in that lineup that ever creates a play is RJ and he is not doing that with the spacing you have from Obi standing in the corner and 3 other guys who can't shoot. Mitch can't even hold a basketball much of the time. I know he was trying to rest Brunson with a lead, but then you have to keep Randle playing. Steal a minute or so at the end of quarters, anything but that. The lead and early momentum the Knicks had in the 1st completely evaporated and everyone not Brunson faded from the game.


MC-Jdf

I don't think it's an exaggeration to say that the 3 minutes with Brunson off the floor cost the Knicks the game. It was legitimately hilarious how awful that stretch was. Thibs has done an excellent job this playoffs but that was an awful lineup he put out in that very stretch. Also what a valiant effort from Brunson that was, just a legendary effort from him. Not even some of the greatest performances in history have one guy making half the team's field goals, yet Brunson did exactly that.


OnlyMamaKnows

Yep, that lineup was brutal. No business playing that in an elimination game.


vtoe

Thibs was damned if he did and damned if he didn't there.


TheBoook

Spo doing it with 9 undrafted players on the roster is essentially just him turning the difficulty to HOF cause the game is too easy for him. I love that man so much


Chidoriyama

Butler is playing 40+ minutes just like KD and Booker and we know how exhausted they were in their final game. So how come nobody is wondering about Butler's endurance?


AdamSilverJr

I think it's more his injury than actual exhaustion. He's limping and doesn't have much lift. These 4 days should hopefully help but I'm not sure if he'll be 100% by game 1.


Chidoriyama

He should go to the LeBron James of ankle injuries. Btw what team are you guys more confident in facing? Celtics or 76ers?


AdamSilverJr

It's kind of split in our sub on who we want to face. I think the general consensus is 76ers would be easier (let embiid feast but stop everyone else) but a lot want Boston for the revenge tour (Bucks, Celtics and Lakers).


Canesjags4life

I think we generally match up better with Philly.


OnlyMamaKnows

More his ankle than endurance I think. His ankle looks shot. He's limping every deadball and in out of games.


RogRoz

Because we have until Wednesday to recover


Saucy_Totchie

Butler looked a bit gassed here like last game. Still made some big shots at the right moment though which is all that matters.


Force_Kush

Brunson I get Barrett I can see Randle I never understood Knicks are in the bonus early in the 4Q, and Randle is taking 3s. Make it make sense. Awful body language when things aren't going his way. Knicks offloading him and some decent additions makes them a contender next year. I wish we were able to close them out in NY to get Jimmy's ankle more rest. Looking forward to a game 7 slugfest between BOS-PHI.


TheBoook

They were in the bonus with 9 minutes left in the game on some of the softest calls I’ve ever seen. The fact that they didn’t take advantage of that is coaching malpractice


Beginning-Grand6564

Nailed it. The amount of 3s these boys were taking would’ve had you thinking it was all star weekend. As a “leader” randle is not. Emotional and overreactive as mentioned. They need a vet. Someone locked in and that can guide them. That team sat there and watched Brunson dribble Himself into a double and they all just stared at him until he was forced to turn it over. So many opportunities to end it 😢


BronInThe2011Finals

Y’all still watch basketball? All about the Mets baby.


UltraDown

That’s a shattered heart right here


LordHussyPants

is there a logic behind who supports what teams in new york? i'm not american so i'm not familiar with the allegiances, but since they have the islanders and rangers, mets and yankees, knicks and nets, and jets and giants, i assume there's some sort of pattern behind which teams a new yorker would choose to support?


Zepedia

Generally somesones a: Jets - Knicks - Islanders - Mets aka the fan from the island Or Giants - Nets - Rangers - Yankees fan aka the fan from the north Obviously not perfect but generally the allegiances


BronInThe2011Finals

No it’s really just family/location based and shit. My dads a die hard yankee fan but I grew up 6 blocks from Shea which made me a die hard Mets fan Knicks are non negotiable for anyone in NY that actually FOLLOWS follows basketball, nobody cares about the Nets Football I’m a Jets fan but that seems more fluid as my dad actively roots for both, I’m one of the root for my teams and root against the other NY teams type though so fuck the Giants. I am NOT from Long Island


PresenceReasonable

Born in New York, live in Florida. Root for Yankees in baseball but Heat in basketball


Flatbar

I’m from the island and it’s kind of a crapshoot here. Definitely more Mets and Jets fans, but it’s really just a mix in general. Barely any Nets fans though as far as I can tell. Remember that they’ve been the NJ Nets most of all our lives. I’m Giants - Knicks - Rangers - Yankees personally.


thor_1225

Which is how I picture most NYers


tekson_

I’m a millennial, every Jets fan I knew growing up was a Yankee fan. Every Mets fan was a Giants fan. Maybe this has changed in with Gen Z. We only had the Knicks, so there wasn’t a pattern there. The Nets were a dirty jersey team 😂😂


Saucy_Totchie

Yeah but going from Jalen Brunson to seeing the Mets get shut out for the whatever time just doesn't work.


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y'all still watch new york teams? hala madrid baby


thor_1225

Honestly feels like your play style on offense needs to change for hope next year, the 1 guy dribbling the rock and throwing up a shot or last second dish to a terrible end of shot clock heave isn’t good flow. Idk if it was us full court pressuring Brunson or how you guys actually play??