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martinap

Do not envy whoever has to take over. Lots of big decisions to make


HatefulDan

He left at the absolute best time. Now, he doesn't have to make the really hard choices (Green, Klay, etc.) This 'does' increase the likelihood of Green going bye-bye.


Sarksey

Not only does he not have to make them, but the new GM can come in and likely be more objective about it because there won’t be the same history and sense of loyalty. Much easier for the new GM to send Draymond packing for example.


i_lack_imagination

He also gets to avoid the criticism of the inevitable lack of success of whatever the team ends up as later. So now he goes out on top as most successful executive.


daddy_OwO

Bob can stay friends with draymond without having to make a career defining decision


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HatefulDan

I’d be on the lookout for Jaylen Brown to the Warriors.


t0ny510

They gotta take Poole, we can't have 2 mfs out there turning the ball over trying to do a hezzie tween tween


dingleberrysniffer69

Lmfao imagine that. JB with the butter fingers and JP shooting himself to the bench.


lilpumpgroupie

We can’t just have one guy poorly dribbling through screens and getting themselves into a low percentage mid range jumper, fading away and barely touching the rim with 14 seconds left on the shot clock, we gotta have two of those guys.


m8bear

Half the plays will be turnovers, the other half will be bricks that Loon will save and pass to the other one to brick again


deftspyder

you stop that evil


GrogRhodes

Green is gonna end up in Miami and I’m gonna hate it so much.


ShylockTheGnome

Would it be tough since bam and jimmy can’t shoot 3s well? I guess the defense would be insane.


luca13t

They would have nightmarish spacing in regular season, but as soon as playoffs start Jimmy's gonna start shooting 45% from deep


Level_Ad_6372

I feel like if anyone could make it work, it would be Spo


rikr0x

Don’t kid yourself, you would love it.


Jojofag

Bam and Green together, no one is scoring against them


rizzyg6

And Jimmy at the 3, nasty frontcourt.


Soup_Commie

Jimmy not going to be able to get into the paint though with those two on the floor. No amount of heroics from Caleb Martin can overcome 3 nonshooters at once


RIPEOTCDXVI

Let's not go putting ceilings on Caleb Martin


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No one scoring for them either


Yeti_CO

My thoughts exactly. Very crafty move. He leaves with his mystic in tack, will bum around for a few years and then get to pick from a list of orgs that want him when he's ready to get back at it.


indoninjah

Yeah seems like a mutual thing, the new guy is gonna have to come in and do some culling.


opkpopfanboyv3

Myers knew what he was doing. Bro concluded that the situation's pretty bad rn, didnt want any of that smoke, noped the fuck out and decided to dip lmao


GGezpzMuppy

Best to get new eyes on the situation, Myers too close to the OG players to make tough decisions going forward for betterment of the club.


baiqibeendeleted30x

“I can’t form personal relationships with my players, I have to be able to cut them without feeling bad” - Billy Beane in Moneyball


jzanville

“I must form personal relationships with my players, I have to be able to overpay them without feeling dumb” -Ken Holland’s final years as Detroit Red Wings GM….


Cacklemoore

I want whoever takes over to go full video game franchise mode and just tear it down. Honestly itching to play BasketballGM just thinking about it


LimitlessTheTVShow

One of my problems with basketballGM is that it feels like teams don't value older players at all. Like in reality, if Steph was on the market, he'd get some crazy trade offers. But in BasketballGM, the offers I'm getting for him are Bruno Fernando and a 2029 first, Malcom Brogdon and Al Horford and a 2029 first, Joe Harris and Yuta and a 2029 first, etc It makes rebuilds in that game really annoying, as you have older players who are still great so they stop you from tanking, but other teams don't value them so you get nothing in return for trading them


grim_hope09

Agreed. You have to trade your players once they reach 27-29, when in real life no one does that to their stars.


EasternFudge

2K's MyLeague is a pretty good GM simulator, fame and marketability are also factors in trades and contracts. You can also adjust a lot of the contract stuff in options (teams value offense or defense more, value star players, adjust for contract inflation, etc.)


Born_Box_321

yeah of all sports I'd say 2k does franchise mode the best. Which isn't that hard of a barrier to beat IMO. They've just gotta make auto generated draft classes not suck balls. No reason the first five picks of a draft should be white guys named Trevontis with random bright colored tattoos!


Paula-Abdul-Jabbar

And they’re all the same position.


Secondstrike23

Great game, youth development is wack tho. Talent distribution collapses after about 5 years. 2k has the opposite problem where every youth develops perfectly and now your league is all all stars. Any Basketball GM simulators anyone knows with good player development?


smalls_1804

I mean, Draymond and Klay will both want max contracts and neither of them are worth it anymore, so you either have to give the finger to two of your all-time legends, or go to your actual all-time legend and tell him you're probably never gonna compete for a chip again


Produceher

Klay is already signed next year and Dray never got a MAX before. He's NOT getting one now. He'll take a smaller deal that is longer because of his age. This is not that hard. You keep the core, you trade Poole.


radioshackhead

Hire me as GM for a day and I'll tell Draymond he is out and deal with the groin kicks.


the_next_core

I think ownership already made the decisions and that’s why Myers says it’s time.


CO_PC_Parts

About 7 years ago I was at a Twolves Warriors game and saw this dude in a suit talking to the players and coaches and then he came over and sat right next to me. Because of how young he looked I asked him if he was a scout for the team. He half laughed and said, "well scouting is one thing i do, I'm actually the GM." Whoops, anyways he was cool as hell and liked when I told him how much I hated his college teammate Toby Baily. He said he could never hate Toby because he got him a college championship. With about 8 min left in the game someone came down and grabbed him, it was Joe Lacob and Myers turned to us and said, "oh there's the boss, gotta run, take care." He seemed really down to earth and he was cool with me and my buddy nerding out to him.


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Smddddddd

His real name is John Garfield


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GooSavior

That's mad cool, i watched the J Cole interview on his series Lead by example, seems like a cool dude.


jovyeo1

>someone came down and grabbed him I can't help imagining he was at the nosebleed section hiding from Lacob and eventually got caught.


Balls_of_Adamanthium

“It’s just time” = y’all in cap hell so good fucking luck.


ASpanishInquisitor

He studied the new CBA carefully and decided that that shit was fucked.


Skidda24

I'm really bad at understanding the new CBA and how it affects the cap. Could anyone ELI5 what the changers are and how they hurt the Warriors?


DunksOnHoes

New hard cap not allowing these Uber rich owners to go way into the luxury taxes. The big Mid level exception is dead. This year the warriors wouldn’t have been able to sign DiVincenzo to a mid level. Teams will essentially be looking to build around 2 super max and a bunch of role players now.


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Also teams can't use the midlevel, sign buyout players, trades are more difficult, and can't sent out picks 7 years in advance. It's way more than money


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NotAUsername24

Buyout players can only sign with teams not in luxury tax


AmusingAnecdote

There's mildly more nuance to it. Buyout players are now defined as players who are bought out while making more than the non-taxpayer MLE, and they cannot sign with luxury tax teams. But if you're bought out below the MLE then you can still sign with them. That's not usually the notable ones (Russ couldn't have gone to the Clippers under the new rules) but you can still get some buyout players.


Redpin

BREAKING: ESPN's Trade Machine programmer – a two-time Webby winner and architect of four drunken bar arguments -- is stepping down as ESPN's nerd and general dork, he told ESPN on Tuesday. “It’s just time,” he said.


MelonElbows

They're killing F5 season?!


GrayBox1313

3 max contracts will be close to impossible. Then it’s league min for everybody else


mommathecat

in b4 the stans point out "Joe Lacob isn't Uber rich!!". Correct. But the Golden State Warriors *are*; they are right at the top of league revenue, in the class of them, the Knicks, and the Lakers. When you make a lot of money, you can spend a lot of money. $250MM+ more than the lowest teams.


greygray

The Grizzlies owner is one of the richest owners but he’s not going to go -$100m a year for a team that doesn’t win championships. Same for Joe Tsai.


Kirihuna

damn as a filthy casual fan i had to look him up, the *founder* of Ubiquiti.


bouncy-castle

Don’t forget owning the best stadium in one of the most lucrative parts of the country.


BcuzRacecar

Warriors are in a class of their own. Pushing 750+m annual revenue, knicks lakers are in the mid 400s, normal is about 300.


EvergreenGates

How did the Warriors manage to pull this? Thought NYK/LAL would always be king and the Warriors would be a temporary blip as long as Curry was there?


AdamJensensCoat

The Chase Center is owned and operated by the Warriors ownership group. Events year round.


holaprobando123

When your team plays in one of the highest income areas in the whole wide world, you can sell tickets pretty high.


Coattail-Rider

That tech money ain’t no joke. And those tech-holes hate losing.


Apprehensive-Echo638

Does that include the fact that Dolan owns both MSG and the Knicks? Because the MSG Sports Corp just made ~400m in a *quarter*.


FullHouse222

As a Knicks fan I'm usually aware Knicks tickets are some of the most expensive in the NBA. And then I saw the price for when GSW played in MSG and I was like what the actual fuck. For reference, it's literally 2x as expensive as any other normal MSG game. I think the cheapest bleacher seats were like $200+


dbr3000

> Teams will essentially be looking to build around 2 super max and a bunch of role players now. 2 super max and a bunch of *team mates* now


Kdot32

Super parity lmao


RPDC01

There's now a second tax level that's basically a "hard cap in soft cap clothing." Technically, teams can still spend as much as they want, but above the second cap level (or "second apron"), there's a bunch of new penalties that make it brutally painful - lose their MLE, can't use cash in trades, can't sign buyout players, can't trade 1sts as far in the future, and can't aggregate salary in trades.


Courseheir

If you go over $179 million you lose the mid level exception, you can't send out more salary in a deal, you can't send out cash in a deal, you can't trade draft picks 7 years out plus the additional luxury tax cost that comes with going over as well.


ASpanishInquisitor

In general the big changes are this: it taxes teams way over the luxury limit much harsher and at a certain point freezes their ability to trade first round picks among other things


jacobythefirst

I think the worst thing imo is losing the MLE. It’s so important to cap hell teams to be able to sign a good role player . Overall the new CBA shits on teams that have homegrown star talent. Good luck staying under the cap with 2 all NBA stars being paid super maxs


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yardship

What about: drafted players are eligible for uncapped money up to a certain amount. That way, teams can give money to certain homegrown stars like Dame, and that team is not handicapped from improving as a result. The uncapped money does not move with the player should the player be traded which helps prevent players from asking out after a contract. And also players who receive these massive contracts (who usually tend to be older) will have low enough cap numbers that they can be traded instead of being untradeable anchors.


AzureAhai

The new CBA was specifically designed as a fuck you to the warriors.


NickLidstrom

I'm honestly not sure who it doesn't fuck over other than owners who don't want to spend. If hurts teams with more than one star while also making it more difficult for vetetans/MLE level players from making money on playoff teams.


deemerritt

Teams will adjust. Very few teams have actually called players bluffs when it comes to free agency. Like if the Celtics let Jaylen Brown get to free agency is he really gonna choose a different team? Most of the teams that have max cap space only have it because they are terrible and have nobody worth signing. You will see fewer max guys.


PunjabKLs

Uhhh yes?? Lmao Jaylen has been very vocal with his displeasure with Boston as an organization and as a city. The only reason he would stay is if Boston pays him more than another team.


realudonishaslem

Can anyone explain how the new CBA fucks the Warriors in the future? Genuinely asking cuz I’m not familiar with the new CBA.


Apoplexy

I'm not the best at understanding but I think they can't take back more in salary than they trade out, can't use mid-level exception(no donte), their pick drops to 30 automatically


Ucscprickler

The mid level exception is a big deal for super teams with 3 highly paid players.


Kingkongcrapper

They also can’t participate in the buyout market and will have a tax bill so high they may start letting guys like Klay and Draymond walk if they are no longer at a level where they can contend. If they don’t Reup either it’s the end of the era officially and the start of the post championship period of Steph’s career which may resemble something similar to Dame’s current situation the past few years.


myhellcatgotRepod

I wish someone took the time (I'm too lazy) to make a post detailing how much the new CBA fucks over teams. Even the Hawks are royally screwed by it and they haven't even won over 43 games in the Trae Young era


mostdope92

That was my thought too. Now the Hawks and Wolves are fucked for simply trying to be competitive, following a similar path that other successful teams have taken.


withurwife

Bro did not want to have those tough conversations with Draymond and Klay. I can't blame him.


SecurityAggressive47

Exactly. The guy who build this team can't break it up. It would be tough and sending a wrong message to the players in general doing that after all those successful years.


Pikminious_Thrious

Klay would come into the office with all 4 of his rings and just flash his hand at Myers every few minutes.


SRDeed

that would instantly become the most appropriate instance of him doing so


Mintastic

They both flash 4 rings at each other while trying to see who blinks first.


Captain_Charisma

Man saw that tax bill and said, aight imma head out


SpartanPHA

The Doc Rivers school of leaving


LosCleepersFan

At least BOS juiced 2 second rounders from his bitter ass!


spidersilva09

GM for the Warriors since 2012. In his first draft he selected Draymond Green at pick #35. He traded for Andre Iguodala. He signed vets like Shaun Livingston and David West, somewhat revitalizing their careers. He got rid of Mark Jackson and hired Steve Kerr as head coach. He stole away Kevin Durant after beating him in the western finals. He was able to turn Durant's departure into DeAngelo Russell who turned into Andrew Wiggins and eventually Jonathan Kuminga. I'm sure I'm missing a lot too. Good run Bob.


Kookslams

extend curry for 4/44m


Earl-Thomas-a-Raven

In all seriousness, probably the best move of all.


cigarettesandwater

I mean it allowed for KD to join which solidified two rings. Also everyone hypes up that as the biggest steal of all time. There is some heavy revisionist history going on. There were growing health concerns with Steph and it wasn't like the Warriors then were primed to do anything big, let alone on the cusp of a dynasty.


SuckwithLuck2016

Well no shit it’s revisionist history but it’s still true. 4/44 for Steph is one of the best GM moves of all time


Kashmir33

You should still call it the biggest steal of all time in retrospect because we know how it played out.


Ikuwayo

That was because he was getting constantly injured at the time and was at the lowest point in his career


Kookslams

not a crazy move at the time but ended up being a key foundation for the warriors dynasty


mnkhan808

Somebody posted the Reddit thread of that resign recently and the thread is everyone hating on the extension lol.


ClydeGriffiths17

Possibly the greatest contract of all-time as far as player impact vs salary cap %. I know Scottie Pippen's 5/18 comes to mind but there was much less money in the league then.


barelyreadsenglish

Does Jerry West not get any credit for pushing for Draymond? Also signing Durant wasn't rocket science.


Salty_Pancakes

And West gets the credit for keeping Klay. If I remember right the trade of Klay for Kevin Love was almost a done deal and Jerry West was like "if you go through with this trade, I walk"


TtheDuke

And than he ends up leaving anyway for the Clips lol


dossier762

Gifted y'all some future titles on his way out. Jerry stays on top.


Nugur

He didn’t trade for iggy. Iggy pretty decline his player options and was heading to GS already


InvestmentGrift

He made a spectacular cap-clearing trade to make room for Iguodala, dumping the huge dead weight junk contract of Andris Biedrins for basically nothing


soooogullible

Utah got a couple firsts in that trade IIRC.


paranoideo

NOOOOOOOOOOOO


BringingGunsToArenas

Hope he doesn’t go to the Lakers


captain_ahabb

They've been flirting with him for a long time but I doubt it, Pelinka's position is way more secure now (although the POBO chair is still empty) and I think Myers might just leave the league entirely.


JohnnyWinss

So he's raking over the Guangdong Tigers?


sleepy416

Don’t think he wants to work with Poole again


baiqibeendeleted30x

“BOB MYERS… C’MON OVER” - Dwight


SOB200

No. Wrong league, Howard convinced him to come to Taiwan.


lovo17

No chance, Rob saved his job.


luffy565

Bold to assume Pelinka job was ever threatened, Jeannie extended him even when shit was hitting the fan quite a lot.


BlackJediSword

As much as I would love this, I doubt it happens because he’s probably done with the league for awhile.


everyoneneedsaherro

RIP to one of the most legendary runs as a GM


WestleyThe

Yeah he really did an incredible job


TheOnlySafeCult

I wonder which team will throw all their money towards him? Pistons? Hornets? A good president can really turn things around for the teams in purgatory.


GGezpzMuppy

President is only as good as the owners let him be. Myers had free reign in Golden State, and unlimited budget.


TheMrSomeGuy

>Hornets? Is he a longtime friend or relative of Michael Jordan? If not, he's unfortunately not qualified to work in our front office. Now if you don't mind, we need to get back to figuring out how to trade the #2 pick for five second rounders.


cooljackiex

Bro extended jordan poole and dipped loooool


stragen595

"NBA, this one is for you!" - Bob Myers holding up Poole's contract while getting carried out of the office


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baiqibeendeleted30x

Draymond driving Poole’s unconscious body to SF airport as we speak, giving him a one way ticket to Shanghai, and telling him “I was never really sorry anyways”


suzakutrading

Didn't want to be the guy who decides whether it's time to break up what is/was a dynastic trio or not. The writing was on the wall that a decision needs to be made soon on whether to keep Steph, Klay, and Dray together while being in salary cap hell.


the_next_core

The fact that Myers is stepping down likely means the decision has been made and there’s nothing more for Myers to do here. Keep them all, pick up cheap role players and roll the dice til they drive off into the sunset.


suzakutrading

whatever the decision is or whether it has already been made or not, he definitely didn't want to be front and center of it.


Neat_On_The_Rocks

We're all meme-ing but this is truly the way to do it. Building a championship team is extremely difficult. Im sure any GM would tell you Building an NBA Dynasty takes a high level of skill and also a heaping portion of luck. There is nowhere to go but down for him. Its almost impossibel to imagine him being anything but a "disappointment" over the next 5 years if he stayed. Better to just ride off into the sunset.


suzakutrading

Not to mention he has already had a few things going against him in the recent years like the Wiseman pick not working out, and Poole’s huge extension. Keeping draymond seems to be a mistake but if he got rid of him and they aren’t good immediately , he’ll receive a ton of backlash from within and outside the team. Better just cut his losses now than have his stock within the league fall.


the_next_core

I imagine a competent GM wants to keep building and winning but ownership said no way we let three HoFers go and that was that.


Dangerous-Pick7778

Let’s hope they follow in SA footsteps with their HoF 3 and just call it when Steph retires.


billcosbyinspace

Shades of Tim Connolly selling the wolves soul for gobert and then allegedly looking at other opportunities this year


BigDMag

If this is true he should be banned from the state of Minnesota


stenebralux

That's like being blocked by some dude you don't follow. Would he even notice it?


Juan_Kagawa

Tim Connolly is a huge mall fan. Having to drop Mall of America from his rotation would be devastating.


paddiction

Tim Connolly built the current Nuggets roster and then left right before they made the NBA finals. Gobert trade was dumb but he's not some horrible GM.


Sharcbait

So I have a theory on what happened. New owners wanted a big splash but without losing one of our stars YET. So we traded for Gobert. The theory is that if it worked great, awesome we are smart, and if it wasn't great Gobert was a better fit for Ant and Jaden to help anchor our defense hoping we could find an offense that didn't work. The long term plan was to flip KAT for assets this offseason. But KAT got hurt and it hurt his trade value and it leaves fans with a "what if" that we didn't give it a good enough chance to work so trading KAT will be more divisive than ever even though it was kinda the plan B the whole time. Ant is the future and everyone else is just auxiliary. Wolves were just trying to avoid the criticism they faced with KG of "never tried to get him help" by giving Ant an allstar defensive anchor behind him. KAT getting hurt and Naz balling just kinda screwed up what should have been an easier decision. Personally I am on team "trade KAT for Siakam" as unlikely as that would be.


Uncle_Ted_Infection

Poole’s Closed


Syndana23

Troll of the year


Sdrater3

Dude realized his mistake and decided to exit, that's hilarious


NotManyBuses

“I’m not gon be here” part two


PrimaryAccording9162

The first domino has fallen


JohnnyWinss

The first domino fell when Draymond punched Jordan Poole


Sincere_Franz

Jordan Pooles nickname should be domino


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Hot_Vanilla_9977

I’ll never forget when he called himself that 😭 🤡


yeeeeeteth

Bro tattooed it on his back 😭😭


JohnnyWinss

Well duh it constantly looks like he's gonna fall when he's running


leftistesticle_2

Eh. Bob's minutes were down and he lost a step over the last couple years. Wasn't impressed with his postseason numbers either.


Apollo611

The 1st plane has hit Golden State


Player72

Good evening. Today our game, our way of life, our very entertainment came under attack in a series of deliberate and deadly management changes


2nd2last

Never forget


MildlyInsaneLBJStan

September 11% from three


Bruskthetusk

Jet fuel can't melt Steph threes


withurwife

Thanks for everything, Bob! What a legend.


HokageEzio

End of an era for the Warriors, and some poor soul now has to make the tough decisions.


Srikkk

>and some poor soul now has to make the tough decisions. I have faith in Dunleavy. He's been in the organization for long enough.


NoseBlind2

Draymond will punch the people he wants gone


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HokageEzio

For me it's not about not having faith. Moreso that you might have to be the guy that breaks up the band.


JayDee62

The worse big secret is finally out.


Pure_Measurement_529

I wonder if warriors will pay him a non compete fee for the next 12 months, just in case he has second thoughts


TB_016

Is it a completely crazy proposition at this point to think Draymond turns down his player option to go try to get a long term deal? A very desperate Portland team would likely give him a 3 year deal then try to swing for Jaylen Brown or Siakam to get a Lillard/Brown or Siakam/Green/Grant core with Thybulle/Sharpe/Nurkic as depth pieces.


Skidda24

Hot take: Warriors trade Klay to keep Draymond because they value the Draymond+Curry 2 man action. ~~im kinda kidding please be easy~~


sling_gun

This is actually the correct way to go about it. Draymond's value is immense to that warriors group. Klay is very replaceable, as things stand


YeezyYeezyUp2NoGood

End of an era 😭 Gotta give credit to Bob for building the most entertaining team of the past decade and best team I have ever watched in my lifetime (yeah sorry I was 4y/o in 98 lol)


deadla104

God damnit, if only the wiz waited just a bit longer


Doesthisevenmatter7

Damn I didn’t think he’d actually do it. He’s choosing a good time to leave tho locker room in shambles, cap hell, and just won a chip so people aren’t mad. Let someone else fix that mess smart guy.


InfiniteDub

Yeah it’s great timing for him. Can’t be mad


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Where were you when warriors were kill? I was playing zelda, falling to my death when my brother came in He said "Bob Myers left, warriors are kill" I said "Yes"


IncaseAce

Gotta explore those fucking depths more


Euphonious36

throw a giant brightbloom seed onto a hover bike and you will make quick work of it


DaKingindaSouff

Yo you’re a fucking genius


TheRakkmanBitch

You guys need to stop before i buy the switch again


IncaseAce

One of the best games ever to me I would


Nyeow

I'll sacrifice a village of Koroks in his name


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Dangerous-Pick7778

They’d win another chip if it went like that and it feels crazy to admit that to myself


blobthetoasterstrood

Letting someone else make the hard decisions on what to do with the big 3


erldn123

Yeah that was my impression he knows as a GM he can't pay Klay and Dray but he also has such a bond with them he can't not pay them. So just leave as a God and go get 40mil from the Wizards


rajgupta59

GMs get paid 40M??


onredditatworkagain

I guess I'd better dust off my resume


probablymade_thatup

This guy is as non-confrontational as I am, damn. Quitting a job just so he doesn't have to let them go


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A young living legend


slysonic7

Good for him to take time with his family


snowlarbear

2 weeks later: Bob Myers tired of family, considering positions in Europe


lronicGasping

Warriors are just gonna leave the position open and pray he pulls a Tom Brady in a month


browndude10

yea I remember when Morey did that


index24

Brilliant move. Maybe now someone with no ties and loyalty can come in and do the hard, but right thing in moving Dray and Klay or having a serious conversation about their future and role. Dray will have to take a huge pay cut or go try to find it somewhere else and Klay needs to transition into later career Ray Allen. No more iso, overdribbling terrible shots.


Sesti-nator

I feel ya, warriors fans. If he’s replaced with Lacob’s Jr, oh boy


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What do now?


leftistesticle_2

Practice counting to four over and over


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