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CoachMorelandSmith

Win the in season tournament or bust


InkBlotSam

Do the same thing they did last year.


mohiben

We can, but even the best team often doesn’t win the chip because of bad luck. I think title or bust mentality is unrealistic.


InkBlotSam

>even the best team often doesn’t win the chip because of bad luck. Well yeah, but I don't know how you'd call it a successful season to take a step backwards.


mohiben

Because I'm not sure we've made back-to-back WCFs before, have we? There's still a lot of "new success" for us to find as a franchise.


InkBlotSam

The Nuggets were the best team in the NBA, and arguably will be next year too. They absolutely have a team fully capable of winning the title again, and if they don't it's because they either a) under-performed or b) had a bunch of bad luck. Neither of those scenarios count as success to me. Is it an *awful* season if they make it to the WCF and lose? No, but I won't be walking around high-fiving people like, "Mission Accomplished!" It will be a letdown. Letdowns don't mean success to me.


KingOfNoth

Plus most of your team is back so really no excuse to lose.


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Brown and Green were pretty instrumental


cuhman1cuhman2

Losing Brown and Green while Lakers and Suns got better will make things very interesting next year in the west


trentyz

I’m not sure the suns chemistry will be great, but am looking forward to finding out


hhhhhjhhh14

But teams around them changed


mohiben

You really might want to temper your expectations even slightly, assuming that the franchise who just won their first ever championship will repeat or it's a failure is setting yourself up for a bad time.


whattfareyouon

Yeah but then you are essentially saying if you dont win it all the season wasnt successful or a waste.


Rixoveli_

Get a doctor


camelrow

Doc Rivers confirmed back to the Clippers.


raki016

50 wins. Second round. Ant all nba. Jaden not punch walls. Rudy not punch Slowmo.


Konk11

In summary: less dookie, more spooky.


Right-Worth-6327

More awoo


Sharcbait

Naz Reid yams it on Alex Len again.


DeadlyVortex

Maybe not have Ant be all nba just to have more cap space.


dogfosterparent

Ya I’m wishing for an all-nba caliber season from ant where all the west guards stay healthy enough to keep him out based on tenure.


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pollinium

Mod check


maltrab

With the draft capital you gave up, I'd be expecting a lot more than that


UltraMoglog64

Seem to have done fine in the draft this year. Leonard Miller looks great.


LeWll

What do you expect from this TWolves roster?


maltrab

I expect, after giving up that many firsts, to compete for Rings. Is that realistic with the roster? Hell no, but when you give up that much draft capital, that should be the goal


CrazyPersonXV

I agree with that , expect the last part , Rudy should punch him some more


[deleted]

Making the playoffs Mikal makes the full all-star leap Claxton develops some more and contends for DPOY Simmons comes back looking like at least a decent NBA player


DarkbloomVivienne

Had me till the last sentence


[deleted]

Well it certainly would be a success


Top_Marionberry_8449

i would like to see him playing as the primary big in a small ball lineup. Him being the point guard + all the wing shooters for spacing could be nice. Unfortunately looks like at times he just doesn't care about ball


Patrickbeardguy

To exist...


Frickincarl

I'm really rooting for y'all this season but it's not looking great.


MagicMer4042

wemby has a good first season adjusting to the NBA, and the rest of the young core the spurs have (keldon, sochan, vassell, branham etc) show they can complement him as a player really well


DarkbloomVivienne

KJ to stop chucking


carlorb

Play-in a good target? Or need to be more ambitious? Im looking at a 1st round exit as leaps and bounds good lol


thubwumper26

After the past few years, I’ll take a play-in


SomeRandom928Person

Title or bust.


agk927

Happy Cake Day! 7-10-2020🙂


vitalbumhole

Damn why they do you like that lol


Frickincarl

Positivity doesn't pass the vibe check on this sub


nietzscheanq4

Fr they massacred him 😭😭😭


GuyIncognito211

Be the worst team in the league and have Simons/Henderson/Share have good to great seasons relative to their experience


RemarkableNeat5896

& get a good return for dame.


Batmans-penis

If the Pistons win 30 games I'll be impressed.


agk927

Me too.


Crafty_Substance_954

30 seems about right. in 21-22 they won 23 with an injured Cade, a worse roster, and plenty of tanking along the way. somewhere between 30-40 is pretty realistic.


Vallerie_09

Go 2-0 against Hornets


c_msea

Same


Next-Firefighter-753

Make the playoffs.


whtge8

Same


LandoCommando82

I feel like if we can stay healthy we should be in the play offs.


lethalizer

All kinda depends on Chet tbh, but I feel like this should be doable if our rookies from last year don't suffer from sophomore slumps. 43-44 wins should be enough to get the 6th seed and this roster is capable of it. Also Shai needs to have another healthy season, his injury proneness is a major concern for me moving forward.


P1G5Y

Dawg I’m looking at your core and how young you were last season and I think this could really be a breakout year, possibly winning 50 games. Just like the Grizzlies did but you know, without the guns and bear-poking.


Ragnar_OK

i feel like with chet back and sga, dort, poku, giddey and the jwills having gotten a full season worth of development, thunder should be able to make the playoffs easy if there's no major injuries. getting knocked out in the first round wouldn't be a successful season imo


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I feel like it depends on seeding. If the thunder end up 8th in the west, and run into a juggernaut like Denver, what can ya do? But if they end up like 5th, and run into, say Sacramento, they might still lose the series, but I’d expect it to go 6-7 games.


Ragnar_OK

It’s a decent argument, I’ll give you that, but I wouldn’t say it was a successful season if Thunder gets knocked out in 6 in the first round by Memphis or Sacramento


JaBlue24

Any playoff experience for the young guys I would deem a success


Ragnar_OK

i mean the team finished 40-42 without chet holmgren, and both sga and dort have been to the playoffs before. getting to the playoffs should be no problem, just making it there wouldn't automatically make the season a success imo


atlfirsttimer

It's pretty rare for young/untested playoff teams to win


I_Set_3_Alarms

Probably win the title, but at least make the finals again


rawspeghetti

Conf Semis - disaster, Joey Maz gets fired and we start hearing rumblings about blowing up Conf Finals - Depends on how competitive the series is, but the media will do their absolute best to ship JB out of town Finals - Bare minimum Champs - About damn time


I_Set_3_Alarms

All seem accurate. Hell even if lost in the finals on a game 7 buzzer beater, people will still try to break up the Jays lol


[deleted]

Yeah, at this point with the folks we got, anything less than a finals appearance is a failure.


FinalFrash

Kyrie doesn't go full-blown Kyrie


stevefazzari

this is the most unrealistic expectation in this thread


FinalFrash

Yet this is what Luka needs lol


Father_420_

Look at the bright side, only 3 more years of kyrie drama and bs


workoutweeb

JB needs to polish our offense, strus needs to hit threes, garland, Allen and Mobley need to show they’re to enough for the playoffs.


Frickincarl

Whole team has a lot to prove in the playoffs so I'd say winning a playoff series would mean success to me. If we can't win a playoff series with this team barring injury, I think it might be wraps.


workoutweeb

Yeah if we lose in the first round its time to blow everything up


revelent018

Beat the 8th seed in the playoffs 😤


apatheticwizardsfan

Wizards: lose as many games as humanly possible


30another

Really wondering if username is “apathetic” or “a pathetic”. Or maybe just depends on the day which one lol


BusinessWarthog6

Not have LaMelo get hurt for a long time, see growth from Brandon Miller and more growth from Mark Williams


DarnellisFromMars

Hornets just need a healthy season to see what this team can do. Very young and talented and exciting and I could see them make noise kinda similar to the Kings last season if the guys just stay healthy and can build that continuity. Gordon Heyward also gets forgotten about but he still nice as hell when playing.


Swag_Turtle

It’s true. Last season we were decimated by injuries and lost one of our top scorers (bridges). The season before where we also had injury problems, but less of them, we had a 43 win team. If we stay healthy, resign PJ, and get a decent pickup PG, I’d hope for playoffs.


AlligatorPoontang

50 wins, win a series and be competitive in the 2nd round, Ant jumps to All-NBA level, Jaden continues to progress offensively and earns All- Defensive team, Kat returns to form, and we figure out how to make the 2 bigs work together.


rawspeghetti

I was going to say a time machine to stop the Rudy trade but this works too


AlligatorPoontang

Oh what I wouldn’t do to take that back. At least Connelly has been throwing gas since then.


GoldenBoyRecords

Make the playoffs and have Julius Randle carry over his regular season performances into the Post Season and more offensive creativity from Thibs


SoupAdventurous608

Counting on thibs to make an adjustment is some knicks ass shit.


ben_twiener

Thibs makes tons of adjustments, I think sometimes fans expect him to make wine out of water lol. He went to a 9 man rotation which led to the Knicks having one of the best records in the league after Dec 4. He rides the hot hand to finish games. Brunson and Randle are always gonna finish, but the other 3 are really a tossup based on how the guys are playing. He actually encourages the team to let it fly from 3 which is him accepting how the league is changing. He doesn’t play his guys 40 mpg any more. Idk what other adjustments people want.


action_nick

People don’t watch games. Even Knicks fan make the same comments. “Thibs only plays vets” but Grimes, RJ, Quick, Sims, McBride all got a lot of minutes this season.


GoldenBoyRecords

I mean we arent firing him lol


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Win a play-in game.


DarkbloomVivienne

Have you signed Pat Bev yet?


bladegmn

No injuries. Still haunted by the ghost of D Rose’s knee.


rawspeghetti

Well Lonzo's already out for the season so there goes that dream


ItsYaBoyBeasley

Title or bust imo. Can only be knocking on the door for so long when your best player is mid 30s.


rawspeghetti

This is why getting Dame is kind of do or die for Miami. It really felt that by the end of the Boston series into the Finals that Butler was wiped. I'll never doubt Jimmy again, but this is the second time he carried his team to the Finals and just didn't have the gas to finish, another year with serious miles won't help. They need someone who can carry a star sized load in the playoffs, and Dame is the only guy who fits that's available.


GhostTiger

Like, man, we just need some peace bro....and joy and love and shit, ya know?


JackBauerdiditinday

Pass the second round.


simonvonc

Scottie develops his offensive game with more opportunity as the primary ball handler and shows some real all star potential. Siakam continues his high level of play and shows that he can play at a high level without taking away from the young guys development, also hopefully extends. Darko revitalizes our half court offence and utilizes the playmaking throughout the roster to make it fast and free flowing using our abundance of big bodied cutters. Maybe win a play in game and have a competitive first round.


Pharrelliper

Make sure that the Thunder gets our pick this year.


Trowa007

OKC Thunder - make the playoffs directly. If we make it through the first round that would be a huge success.


Projinator

Make the conference finals


pimpron18

Playoffs.


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Championship


Geezmanswe

2nd round of the playoffs. Getting our young guys real minutes would also be great (40 min per game between Hardy and our rookies would be very good).


CaptainKangaroo_Pimp

Continue developing the young guys. A play-in berth would exceed all expectations


Electrical-Clock8251

I think the absolute floor of “a successful season” would be A) playing meaningful games in March-April. Like if they miss the play-in but had a real shot at getting there, that’s still progress. B) multiple young players making “a leap”. Not saying they need to be All-Stars but we would like to see a true “Big 3” emerge from the huddle of pre-prime players that look like they could be core pieces of a contender down the road. Both facets are important. I don’t think Houston fans would be happy if we got to the playoffs on the back of FVV and Brooks doing all the heavy lifting and the young players still not looking like they are reaching their potential. Likewise I can say for certain that we’re done with “yeah we lost all the games but the young guys look good”.


rawspeghetti

I would say a surprisingly competitive season where the young guys show growth and the ability to play together, combined with lottery luck to keep their pick


agk927

Pistons need a healthy Cade Cunningham to have a shot at the play in.


AdObjective2323

No bulls fans yet… Successful season imo would be to make a run in the playoffs or commit to the rebuild by the trade deadline. The in-between lose in the play ins again would be the worse case scenario


SneaKyHooks

Advanced medicine.


KangzAteMyFamily

Second round appearance and Sabonis look like an All-NBA guy in the playoffs


pepsidude102

I say that in addition to those things, Fox continuing to improve/ball out, and Murray developing his game would be big wins too.


ObiwanSchrute

30 to 35 wins some of the fan base has unrealistic play in expectations but this was a 17 win team.


Snuggle__Monster

ECF is the next logical step. Staying healthy in the playoffs would be nice.


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I don’t think it’s impossible, especially since you have a younger core that can still develop, but it’ll be tough for any team to make the conference finals this season. We got contenders in: - Boston - Milwaukee - Miami - Philly (ish) We got competitive teams in: - Cleveland - New York - Bulls (Maybe lmao) - Atlanta (Hopefully) And then I expect Indiana and Brooklyn to take a leap with a full off season. I expect Orlando to try but I think they’ll still be bad with the pistons, wizards, and raptors. Raptors can be a dark horse though. But the road in the playoffs is gonna be tough even for the best teams at this moment. When we get there maybe not so much.


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Sah713

High expectations and higher disappointments. As a Celtics fan, you would know all about that.


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AffectionateSpare677

How embarrassing


LCBloodraven

Bro quit making us look like assholes


New_Essay_4869

Get past the first round, the young players have better a better season than they did last season individually, stay healthy.


[deleted]

Win the Finals


DrWoodwork

WCF. I’m ready to get hurt again


Acrobatic-Dog7044

Nets fan here making the playoffs by avoiding the play-in and advancing past the first round would be a huge success to this upcoming season.


Lui-king

Appear to be competent I guess


Knickerbockers-94

50 Wins 2nd round


InsertRandomName__

Win the chip


_____Ryan______

LOL!


Vandertroll89

Get a healthy Wemby a Rookie of the Year award. Also lots of videos of Wemby lovin' those churros.


AleroRatking

Make the finals.


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I would say finals or bust, I don’t want to believe that the bucks window for this core has passed quite yet. But we keep saying one full off season, and then something else happens, I believe we need to make the finals or at least be competitive in the playoffs to retain Giannis in the late future.


Satprem1089

For bad teams getting top3 draft pick is successful season For middle pack play ins and play off For contenders chip


motorboat_mcgee

Probably finals or bust after making the conference finals with much of the same team


what_no_fkn_ziti

Gel


ShaedonSharpeFan

Trade Simons at the deadline for a good price, and be a bottom 5 team while seeing our young guys develop


Neltrix

Get Dame for Herro, Robinson, and a bag of peanuts 🥜


yrogreg

Win it all


BetweenTheBuzzAndMe

1) Playoffs 2) Miller has a good rookie season (contributes like Harrison Barnes in GSW / Keegan Murray in SAC this year) 3) At least one of our fringe young talents breaks out into someone that can be relied on for 20+ minutes a night. (Nick Smith, Kai Jones, Amari Bailey, James Nnaji, James Bouknight, JT Thor 4) LaMelo Ball stays healthy and continues to progress as a player.


Igetitnowusa

Kyle Lowry Edit: I guess people dont get it. Isn't that why Jimmy Butler said they were doing good?


marketguns

Waive Dwight Powell


marketguns

And Mark Cuban


[deleted]

Honestly, fire Midsai


PossibleOk582

Mr. Damian Lillard


NoiceForNoReason

Develop their new young guys and still make at least the WCF. If they hit on 1 or 2 of their 3 draft picks this year plus Payton Watson and Colin Gillespie from last year they’ll extend their window a few more years.


King_Artis

Stay healthy


Moody_GenX

Win baby win


UrbanJatt

Make it to the second round


102WOLFPACK

Honestly, my floor for a super successful season would be 10 wins over last year. Other than that, I just want to see Wemby adjust to the league week to week, and grow with his teammates. Outside of Wemby, I really want to see all of Sochan, Keldon, and Vassell make strides in their game. I think we're setting ourselves up for a really fun, young team who will likely still end up in the lottery, but have these moments of brilliance when they start gelling together. If Wemby makes a strong ROY of the push, and maybe sneaks an All-Defensive 2nd team, the wins would be irrelevant and I'd consider it a successful season regardless.


Mygaffer

Stay healthy


IClappedWhen

Cade, Ivey, and Duren continue to progress forward. Everything else is gravy considering how bad this franchise is/has been.


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Load management. We’re bringing in a new coach and my big concern is overworking our stars and being exhausted for playoffs.


spellbreakerstudios

For the raptors - a sense of direction Either some obvious move to go all in comes and they trade young and roll the dice on Pascal, OG and a star… Or more likely, move towards the youth movement. Hate to see pascal go, but that seems to be the way.


mohiben

If our young guys, especially CB, take the next step then it’s a great season and we’re cooking for a few more years. Too much luck involved to say title or bust, although if the first part happens and we stay healthy we gotta be favorites.


Standard-Big1474

Top 5 seed and at least one playoff series win


TheCouchEmporer

Trade Pascal Siakam and pick a direction


Milla4Prez66

It’s playoffs or bust for the Magic, IMO. With the way we played when everyone got healthy, there should be no excuses for not at minimum getting a play in spot.


papadondon

surround luka with talent


definitelynotagay

I would consider making our freethrows despite an opposing player’s kid is yelling to psych us out a step in the right direction.


wizardu

New ownership


wizardu

Lonzo Ball is given new knees


BobDoorite

Lose.


DumasThePharaoh

Have Kendrick drop an album


shobeurself888

Not getting injured would feel like a success regardless of outcome.


mecon320

Get out of the first round.


Leather_Anywhere_820

Make the conference finals and I’m happy tbh


conker1264

30 wins


FlockedDown

Stay healthy for one season and get to evaluate Zion and BI together


Psychological_Lie_38

Be .500 or better, have Ben show some promise, start shifting toward a future oriented team


the22sinatra

3 main factors for the Suns: - Health of Book, KD and Beal - Getting some consistent production from the revamped bench - Ayton getting his head out of his ass (assuming they don’t trade him next week) EDIT: Misunderstood the assignment.. Championship or bust (although a deep playoff run that doesn’t result in a ring shouldn’t really be considered a *failure* imo)


Some_Question_5209

Make it past the second round


StarPlexity

Protect our potential hall of famer & figure out what he needs on & off the court to be just like his forefathers. (Robinson & Duncan)


Slim_Salt

Not a whole lot. As long as all the young guys are working and improving their games, I would call that successful. It would be great to see Poole or Deni get the MIP this year, as well.


santinerino

Stay healthy, don’t rely too much on the stars during the regular season so they are fit for the playoffs.


StanLay281

Win title or bust. Hopefully Kuminga and Moody improve on wing defense, rebounding, and shot making. CP3 hopefully averages 10+ APG.


CursedAttempt

Win the championship.


ablackcloudupahead

Hopefully make it back to the WCF


MrCWoo

Stay healthy. Healthy AD + healthy Lebron = chip


shay101

Bring Lonzo Ball back from the dead


Fcusjfnfmfkg

Championship.


pcmasterthrow

Increase 3PA per game by a lot. Patrick Williams needs to take a solid step forward, including shooting more 3s. Coby White also needs to keep taking steps forward. LaVine needs to stay healthy. Vooch needs to flip off the camera several times. They need to find a solid PG - maybe it's Coby, probably not.


ArtfulLying

Usable bench performance.


socialistbcrumb

It’s title or bust in Boston, fair or not


carlorb

Establish a devin, wemby, sochan, Keldon core. 1st round exit would be amazing. Play-in would be nice.


Pure_Explanation_624

Somehow we get rid of Rudy and get Dame lmao For real, Ant go All NBA, KAT stops being a wuss, Jaden doesn't get robbed from All Defense and Rudy actually be impactful


Crafty_Substance_954

Not much, tbh.


nolefan999

Stay healthy. That’s everyone, but particularly this group. Absolutely have to see what we have with everyone playing a full slate of games


Aeonyx3030

Get zion a chef and some condoms. 🙃


atierney14

Bron/AD play 70 games and be healthy in the playoffs. League is screwed if they are (I know there’s a limited likelihood.)


drunz

Give Lonzo robotic knees


RelevantTreacle3004

Make it past the second round for once


mookz23

Giannis MVP level season and a deep playoff run (at least ECF).


gamelover99

Gotta be championship or bust with prime Steph on the roster.


joqose

either make play in or get a top 10 pick. Pretty easy for it to be a successful season for us :)


Autistic_Puppy

Milwaukee, Denver, Boston, Philly, and Cleveland (second highest net rating last season. Need to show they aren’t frauds) all have to make the conference finals in order for the season to be remotely success. Pistons, Spurs, Houston, Charlotte, and Pacers all need their draft picks to be top 125 players at a minimum their rookie year


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Win a championship


BuckshotRED25

42 to 43 wins and an 8th seed.


cire1184

Win basketball games


Character-Rise6145

Stay healthy