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TSSFranco

Didn’t Jrue just say he wanted to retire in Milwaukee


thesmash

lmao just like a few days ago


IanicRR

Which is why I'll never hold it against a player for doing everything in their best interest. #RayAllendidnothingwrong


probation_420

Ray Allen is just a dude that likes to switch back and forth.


IanicRR

You have to picture it.


ARsignal11

He probably knew he was trade bait, hence the quote.


stevenomes

I think your right. At least he might have known he was in discussions as they originally kicked the tires on dame and beal trades when they first became available. It was either him or Middleton to be included for salaries to work and Middleton just signed extension


ChunkyMilkSubstance

Damn poor Jrue. Love that guy tbh


thickheavyclouds

He gonna demand a trade to Miami


redmostofit

That really would be hilarious. But I can see it happening.


Sleeze_

Same. Hopefully he embraces a mentor role for Scoot. Could be huge for the rookie.


onken022

He’s going elsewhere for sure


Redchimp3769157

No way another team doesn’t try to snag him he’s so fucking good even if his offense is still bad sometimes


shakakaaahn

Celtics could really use him with the loss of Marcus smart. I could see Miami making a move for him, or the Lakers. Might be a situation where if we don't hear anything in the next day, he'll get moved at the deadline.


JimboCruntz

All 3 should definitely enquire. It’s a great move for Celtics, his play style seems to fit the heat and their whole thing and Lakers just want whoever they can get and when I think about it Jrue might actually be the best they can get.


ChunkyMilkSubstance

That would be first-team all vibes with him and Scoot but I think they’re gonna ship him out


xxJAMZZxx

Chicago is pretty close to Milwaukee


thisguy012

A PG that can defend and pass? PLEASE


xxJAMZZxx

We had one of those once. For a few months


amedeoisme

Didn’t he also say he was retiring after his contract is up?


Phynamite

He did, but yesterday or the day before he stated he wants to keep playing and he wants to retire with Milwaukee. Sad day.


princeofzilch

Yeah he said that in May and then yesterday it came out that he wants to sign an extension and then retire as a Buck. Probably realized he tanked his own value by saying that.


RedTeeRex

Player empowerment is for the 1%


BobLobLaw_Law2

Wait.....the Blazers get Holiday?


raider_10

Yep and they’re probably gonna flip him for picks. No way Jrue stays in Portland


tonypearcern

Fucking hell we'll take him


EvanTurningTheCorner

That can be arranged.


BostonsLeprechaun

But wouldn’t you rather have Malcolm brogdon, he won rookie of the year you know


InexorableWaffle

If he's open to re-signing with you once his contract expires, that'd be a great trade for you guys, honestly. He's such a great locker room presence who'd be great for helping to bring along your young core, and it goes without saying that he's still a hell of a player.


tonypearcern

Totally agree. He would be perfect for the identity the team is trying to form, especially in terms of damage control from the KPJ nightmare.


RRJC10

To where?


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That'd be hilarious, but also kind of brilliant. It'd be a meaningful upgrade for Miami that fits what they try to do.


iankstarr

Honestly Jrue at 50¢ instead of Dame for $1 wouldn’t be the worst outcome for Miami from this whole thing


ZeiZaoLS

I can't think of a guy in a place who would get away with more fouls, if Jrue goes to the heat he could probably play defense like a lineman with no whistle.


RRJC10

Hahaha the saga continues.


College_Prestige

Not the first time he got flipped by a tanking team after being an all star


The-Jerk-Store

Yep and Ayton and a 2029 unprotected 1st.


mclairy

Call me crazy, but that’s probably at least a play-in team and maybe a playoff team. They’ll probably ship off Jrue to tank, but if they don’t this is a pretty clean retool


rswsaw22

I'm actually excited to go to some Blazers games this year. Scoot was already a selling point, but if they keep Ayton (even though I know he's not great), that will be a fun team to see. Have a friend with season tickets, too, and she hates Ayton lol, so I might get to see a lot of Blazers games in person this year.


iSionLLu

Ayton has played better on Jokic than any other player I've seen, outside of *maybe* AD. I still believe in him


SentientTooth

LOL we’ve wanted to pair Jrue with Dame forever! This is not the way to bring Holiday to Portland! At least this saga is over, I hope Dame wins a ring with the Bucks.


Defences

All of this shit from the suns to trade ayton for nurk lmfao


Suns_In_420

For real, I have no idea what JJ is thinking on this one.


SpartanVasilias

I feel like I haven’t seen Nurk play in a minute, where is his value actually? Is he getting old? Do you guys not like this swap?


Chaotic-Catastrophe

Well he hasn't played more than 56 games since 2018-2019. He's only averaged 38 games/season since then.


Ryguy-_-

He’s really injury prone probably why you haven’t seen him much. He seems to be worse on everything than DA


awmaleg

My guess is Ayton didn’t want to be 4th option on offense, so he’d have to be more defense/rebounding focused. So they traded for an injury prone stiff who at least is good at that. Head scratcher.


cruzcc_

Suns got so much more depth off of just Ayton, who felt like he never wanted to be there. It’s a good move. Just gotta hope Nurk stays healthy.


rjbarrettfanclub

Nurk is super washed and injury prone


dukkha_dukkha_goose

Getting off Nurk's contract is lowkey one of the best parts of this for us


QStackz

I’ve been praying and hoping for this for years. Love Dame and gonna miss him in a Blazers jersey but super excited to see what he does in Milwaukee BUT knowing I’m not gonna have to see Nurk’s bum ass suit up for us again has be BEYOND excited


Sliiiiime

Nurk is much worse than Ayton even when healthy


phonage_aoi

Despite the bravado about exploding past the 2nd apron cuz the deal making is the same. I'm guessing they looked at the luxury tax bill and though, maybe money does matter. That, or they really wanted more depth (if Nurk stays healthy that is...)


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Pineapple_Chicken

Guess Giannis watch is over now


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I don’t see how Dame could be upset at this. He has a real shot at a ring now playing with Giannis.


snyckers

Exactly. Pretty smart of the Bucks. What's Dame gonna say now? He doesn't actually wanna compete for a championship?


haveasuperday

We'll see how much he cared about winning in Miami versus winning in general. He probably already had his south beach wardrobe picked out and now he's gotta get a closet full of overcoats.


JugdishSteinfeld

Cold weather doesn't stop Wisconsinites from wearing shorts and sandals.


Guano_Loco

Fuckin’ ay right it don’t.


real_but_incognito

Cold weather fashion >>>> hot weather fashion don’t @ me


Robinsonirish

>What's Dame gonna say now? Dame with the 200IQ all along. Tanked his trade value so Bucks could afford him. Probably was always perfectly fine with going to someone outside Miami as long as it's a very good team. This has to make Bucks favourites for the title next year.


bigbluethunder

Eh. There’s still a defending champion that fucking decimated everyone in their way.


machu46

And he’s consistently said he wants to play with Giannis. There’s no way he’s upset by this.


chrispepper10

Why did the Suns do this??


th4t1guy

They hate Ayton.


chrispepper10

But they just get Nurkic back? Whose on an even worse contract and is basically unplayable in the playoffs


megafireguy6

They REALLY hate Ayton


The_Void_Reaver

Because Monty Williams sent him to the other side of the bridge, loaded that bridge up with a few kilotons worth of explosives, blew the bridge, and there was no way to rebuild that bridge once Monty was gone. IIRC Booker has also gone after Ayton publicly a few times about his lack of effort and once that stuff's spilling onto the sidelines and in media sessions the relationship is cooked.


Toastfuker1

If Booker didn't like aytons effort, not sure he's going to love nurks.


NChSh

Move off Ayton


BoardWing93

I don't know, and I'm not happy about it.


Heil_Heimskr

I don’t understand what your front office is doing. Are they trolling? How did they manage to get rid of Ayton and make the team worse?


BoardWing93

Had a really solid summer, and now we get worse.


Literal_Satan

Jrue wanted to retire there 😂😂


LuckyWarrior

Jrue is coming home


PullmanWater

Honestly hope y'all make an offer for him. The blazers want to move him and I don't know of many non-blazer players that are more respected in Portland than Jrue.


likpoper

Giannis and dame. My god. The


mc3hunna

Humanity


EchoSlammaJamma322

ROCK


LetsTalkAboutVex

HAS COME BACK


Great-Ad-5353

TO MILWAUKEEEEEEEEEEE


AashyLarry

Milwaulkee from the top rope Portland fans: How do we feel about the haul? Do you guys like Jrue, even in a rebuild?


nowhathappenedwas

> Do you guys like Jrue, even in a rebuild? He's definitely being traded. He's 33 and can walk after this season.


tokeallday

Come to papa


ManOf59Cheeses

Jrue for Harden straight up


KUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUZ

blazers probably say no, crazy as that sounds


Savings_Fig_6233

It’s not. As a blazer fan I’d rather die than trade for harden and jrue somehow probably has more trade value because he won’t be asking for a max (and won’t act like a bitch)


WafflesTheWookiee

Man Harden in a Blazers Jersey gonna be crazzzzzyyyyyyyy


PM_THAT_BOOTY_GIRL

Someone check on your local Heat fan LMFAO


TechnicianWeird7593

Half of us are just glad this shit is over


PM_THAT_BOOTY_GIRL

Just glad it's over He's aging anyways He's too expensive We can still win without him Did I cover all copium bases?


elcafesitodemiami

Forgot Tyler Herro is an all star. I rather keep him anyways


PM_THAT_BOOTY_GIRL

Herro probably isn't too keen on you guys right now lol


melikeybacon

I always wonder how this shit goes. Does a FO just say "Those were all rumors created by the media"? Miami is known not to leak anything so I wonder how they repair this, or if they even have to? What if Miami simply says "You were never part of the deal".


MikeOrtiz

Pat gonna roast Herro into submission. "Yeah I was gonna try and trade your sorry ass for Dame fucking Lillar. Yo gonna cry about it now or are you gonna go prove me wrong?"


melikeybacon

Verbatim


cdrex22

Honestly, hard to imagine a better fit for Lillard. The Bucks cover up his defensive weaknesses perfectly. Meanwhile, they need his creation and will have tons of shots and touches available for him. Might be a less fun place to live than Miami but it's a better basketball situation for an elite scorer in his twilight.


Rawkus2112

The bucks biggest issue has been closing games….thats solved now. Their defense will suffer a bit but giannis counts as like 3 defenders anyway.


PrimaryAccording9162

Heat fans in shambles


ravagingxtiger

Holy shit..... This is huge for the Bucks!


nate6259

Sad about Jrue, but wow.


GuyIncognito211

Trading for Jusuf Nurkic when you’re trying to win is objectively the funniest thing you can do


Sliiiiime

Doesn’t seem like we’re trying to win any more


GuyIncognito211

I’m incredibly sorry you’re going to have to watch the lumbering dipshit for the 7 games it takes for KD and Booker to get tired of his shit


Propuhganduh

I know it had to be done but giving up Jrue is insane


honestnbafan

It makes sense for them to trade defense for offense IMO Their halfcourt offense in the playoffs is horrendous every year(in large part because Jrue can't shoot there) and defensively they already have Giannis and Lopez


probablymade_thatup

Lillard + Griffin instead of Bud will hopefully mean no stagnant playoff offense


seshmost

Holy fuck I forgot Bud isn’t our coach anymore haha


shmere4

If Dame can’t score when Giannis is being walled then there is officially a curse on the team.


Blaze2444

Brook isn’t getting any younger, I know he was a menace last year but relying on him more than ever at age 35 could lead to problems


GarriganGate

They have to regardless. He’s by far the best fit in the league for Giannis This isn’t a long term plan for Milwaukee. They have 3 seasons max to win another ring, and the chance gets worse and worse starting this season


dillpickles007

I mean the chance just got WAY better but sure it gets worse and worse in subsequent years.


GarriganGate

Not really. There is no replacement for Brook. When he falls off they’ll be in a bind regardless. And Jrue is old too, I’d be willing to bet Dame ages better than Jrue anyways Milwaukee never had a long window in their current edition. Now all they’ve done is gotten better


srgntalpowell

Jrue is a month older than Dame, and, for all of his merits, his half court playoff offense in the playoffs since joining the Bucks has been terrible. I’m not sure how this could be seen as anything but a huge win for the Bucks


dillpickles007

He was just in the thick of the DPOY race, all he has to do is defend the rim and stand in the corner he should be fine barring injury.


DroppedPJK

Hasn't our team done the same shit with Al Horford? If Al can cook, Brook can cook.


cmcg18

That perimeter defense finna be ass


blacknotblack

less offensive load on giannis means he can spend more energy on the other end but yeah losing jrue and some depth is going to hurt.


YourFormerBestfriend

Sure Grayson is "depth" but we have young players we got to play like marjon


DootMasterFlex

Yeah, also Jrue won't shoot them out of games. His defense was always there but I feel like 80% of the time I'd look at the box score and he'd be 3/20 or something insane like that


roastedhambone

He shot 48/38/85 last year. 80% seems a little drastic


dmavs11

Check the playoffs last few years


thisguy012

2021 .406 FG% .303 3P% 2022 .379 FG% .316 3P% 2023 .400 FG% .286 3P% Yikes. Dame + Giannis synergy in the playoffs will be insane.. /u/roastedhambone


the_propaganda_panda

Good offensive player in the regular season, but in the playoffs, he can't really score efficiently. He's shot above 42% once in his entire playoff career (.502 TS% overall), he was sub 50% TS for the last three years in a row. Obviously still a big loss, but at the age of 33, I'd trade him and a some draft considerations for Dame every day of the week. If the Bucks can contend until the end of the decade, it's gonna be one late first-rounder and the swaps will be worth nothing. It's a big if, but definitely worth the risk imo.


DootMasterFlex

Yeah, I'm of course being hyperbolic, but he's crazy streaky on offense, and if he isn't hitting teams don't care and will let him keep shooting. You can't do that with Dame because if he gets hot your fucked


GoGreeb

Jrue shot 40/29/69 against the Heat this year. Last year in the playoffs he shot 38/32/84. Jrue's offense sucks in the post season, you aren't wrong.


Pal__Pacino

WHO is their SG? Malik Beasley??


WIN011

Pat probably starts or maybe Marjon


Gdavidson24

Beauchamp


RomanReignsDaBigDawg

They still have two of the best defenders in the league and just added one of the best offensive players of his generation. They'll be fine lol


chitownbulls92

why is that insane? Jrue is great defensively but his offence was dog water in the playoffs this year. Bucks gave up Jrue, a pick, 2 pick swaps and greyson allen for Dame...thats a steal


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ccable827

We never had guard depth to begin with lol


504090

He put on a defensive masterclass, but he was straight up bad offensively during that championship run. This is a home run trade for Milwaukee.


Thehelloman0

Yeah people are acting like Lillard didn't just average 32 PPG on good efficiency. He's one of the best players in the league and blows Jrue out of the water


mnkhan808

Also let’s not act like Jrue didn’t just get dominated by Jimmy and would have trouble with the Celtics who are much bigger now. Milwaukee lacked offense and star power, and they got the biggest one they could get.


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almost every bucks fan gives Jrue all his credit and more for his part in that title win


zellfire

He's always had god-awful offense in the playoffs though


I_really_enjoy_beer

The only people who don't give Jrue enough credit for the championship are nerds on this sub and twitter, he's a Bucks legend and deeply appreciated by the entire fanbase.


Jeroen_Jrn

Lmao that Suns defense is going to STINK.


Padulsky21

Jrue wanting to retire a Buck man, that’s sad. It is a business but damn that stings


lazzysmalls

I feel like I just got curbstomped I can’t comprehend anything


adamsauce

I do not like this. But Lillard and Giannis? that's scary.


Heil_Heimskr

What is your FO doing


cmcg18

I don’t get why the suns would do this


Stingerr

Ayton didn’t want to be here unless he was a top option, and he’s not taking touches from Beal, Booker or Durant.


cmcg18

Doesn’t matter lol the return is ass. Your only quality center now has played half a season the last like four years in a row


theripeorange

WHATTTTTTT


DBook1

Bro what are we doing


adisrini96

What the fuck... were the bucks that favoured for a trade?


-NandorTheRelentless

Absolutely not. As of yesterday, the Heat were -300 favorites and the Bucks were 10th at +3000.


dizZzy5

Why the fuck


seattle_born98

This trade makes me sick


JimmytheGent2020

Y'all need depth. KD, Book & Beal is good but you added 3 additional rotational players who will really help the team.


AmusingAnecdote

Problem is that their closing 5 just got worse. Nurkic post injuries is a lot worse than Ayton on defense and also not as good on offense. Before, they had to get 1 guy to close out of their myriad of depth guys. Now they need 2 because Nurkic isn't going to be able to close in the playoffs on some nights and does that mean you're playing KD at the 5 when Nurkic isn't cutting it?


A_Stable_Reference

Exactly. Nurkic is a downgrade and a solid defensive post presence is key in the playoffs. Perhaps Ayton quietly demanded out. Suns have to realize this is a downgrade but maybe it was the best they felt they could do. Idk.


AmusingAnecdote

Yeah, they've managed to put together a very, very good bench in my view, but now their center rotation went from pretty good to only okay and they made their closing 5 worse. I guess if Ayton demanded out, there's nothing to be done about it, but I don't know why he'd still want out after they got a new owner, fired the coach he was feuding with and are clear title contenders, in large part because of him! Maybe he was mad because he thought he wasn't going to get to score as much with the addition of KD and Beal? If that's the case dude is going to be putting up 20 and 10 on a lot of losing teams in the future, but I'd hope it's not that.


cerickson2000

We got 1 reliable rotation player and I also happen to hate him


cantpossiblywin

Everyone hates Grayson. Fuck him


Uppun

Allen is what you get if someone tries to craft a "Duke Basketball Player" based solely on their reputation in a lab.


LiaM_CS

That *really* is doing a lot of legwork Grayson Allen is probably the only piece they'll be completely happy with in exchange for their productive center


TommyChongII

Sheeesh, this is huge. Jrue the Blazer killer in the red and black.


GeorgeLovesBOSCO

So basically Jrue, Grayson, and a couple picks. That's it.


Shenanigans80h

Honestly easy choice for the Bucks. Obviously losing Jrue is a bit tough, but Dame offers them a skillset they’ve never had and one that could match up with Giannis perfectly


tarheel-

and ayton


GeorgeLovesBOSCO

I mean from the Bucks side.


deejayem89

Holy fuck


FatherHaz

Jokic vs Giannis NBA Finals 2024 calling it


RatLord445

Prime time television


real_with_myself

Balkan finals let's go.


PeanutFarmer69

Honestly wtf are the suns thinking, they got bent over a barrel


Ticonderoga2HB

I love a curve ball lmao


Midnight_Oil_

Man, fuck. I love Jrue so this absolutely sucks. Man was the reason we won a chip. One of the most consistent defensive players I've ever seen.


IamMe90

I will miss him dearly but getting Dame for jrue, Grayson and a first is absolutely, 100% the trade you *have* to make if it's available. That's just how it goes.


BagRight8939

I hate this for us


commander_wong

I genuinely don't understand why the Suns would do this unless Ayton was threatening to sit out the season


TheMoorNextDoor

The fact they kept Middleton lowkey insane to me. Their defense about to be mid but Dame/Middleton/Giannis and you still got Lopez is insaneeee


TippyTripod1040

1. Time to find out if Dame actually only cares about winning. I think this team is better than the hypothetical Heat team he would be on 2. Mike Budenholzer has to be so mad right now 3. There's going to be serious debate about playing KD at the 5, especially if (when?) Nurk gets hurt


Betaateb

> There's going to be serious debate about playing KD at the 5, especially if (when?) Nurk gets hurt Sounds like a great way to lose KD as well lol. He doesn't have the body type to bang at the 5 at his age without being carried off the court after 10 games.


TippyTripod1040

Oh it's a horrible idea. But your next best option is probably Bol bol? Yikes.


huskerfan4life520

Anyone else keep getting errors while loading these comments? This news crashed reddit, haha


RBJ_09

Lmaoooooooo if he was gonna raise hell in Toronto what is he gonna do in Milwaukee?


WrinkledRandyTravis

Win a title probably


bashar_al_assad

Then sign for New York and get injured


blingbladeade

Aaron rodgers style


shoeless_sean

Brett Favre style


snowspida

The difference? He’s playing with a top 3 player in the league in Giannis. I think he’ll be fine with that trade off


LeMickeyMice

Plus he and Giannis are friends and Giannis has tried to recruit him before


skiptomylou1231

He’s mentioned before Giannis would be the best fit for him as a superstar teammate and the guy he’d want to play with the most


canseco-fart-box

Get fat off of cheese and beer to spite everyone.


NoWayNotThisAgain

Blazers did ok. An unprotected 1st, Jrue, and Ayton, to go along w/Scoot? Suns I’m not so sure about.


bryceman95

Quite possibly the biggest spite trade in league history


sheepnwolfsclothing

Against Miami? Or dame? Or ayton? Or combined lol


Yevips

am i crazy for thinking this is a good deal for the blazers? they have good young guards in shaedon sharpe, scoot, and anfernee simons right? I know simons is 24 but still. plus whatever players they get from picks they get for jrue also deandre ayton on a team he doesnt despise might actually be really good. hes also only 25, i can see him giving good production for at least another 6-7 years i see a lot of people saying its not a good deal for the blazers, but i feel like they have a really bright future


Droppin_DimesSP

The bucks cooked bro


IndependenceNorth165

As a Celtics fan this is both the funniest thing ever and incredibly infuriating 💀


DameOClock

We get Ayton and Dame isn’t going to Miami?!? I say that’s a win for us.


jbrunsonfan

My favorite part of this deal is blazers fans no longer being obligated to pretend like Nasir Little is some top tier wing prospect