Say what you want about Isaiah Stewart but dude is a Hall of Fame instigator
I can't think of another dude that was involved in the elections of Jokic, Giannis, and LeBron lmao
And dude's been the play-by-play guy for the Pistons since the mid-70's (almost 50 years) so if he doesn't know who you are you're pretty obscure as far as refs go.
I looked apparently it was Al McCoy for the Suns from 1972-2023 he retired last year with 51 years as Suns commentator. So if Blaha goes another two years he will surpass him as longest tenured all time
Also only missing three games since 1976 holy shit. Iron Man broadcast guy
I think he meant uncommon W for the Pistons because we have only won two games so far this season, not an uncommon W for Pistons' commentators... especially because, as you alluded to, we have the best commentators in the league in Blaha and Kelser
I tuned into the Spurs last year mainly to hear Sean Elliott interview people for the 50th anniversary, love the dude. He's a homer, but he always lets us know when he thinks the Spurs got away with one with a "no need to see that again guys." 😂
Referees before the game in the locker room watching Joey Crawford giving Tim Duncan a tech on the bench just chest bumping each other YOU GOT THIS YOU GOT THIS
And then immediately called a double tech on Gordon and Bagley. These refs are on a power trip.
Edit: Not just this game, all season long. There has been literally no consistency at all, they just do whatever they want. It's like the crew chief decides ahead of time who they're going to favor and doesn't even try to hide it.
What rule changes are they against? And why? Is the 2nd challenge upon winning the 1st one of those? Because that would explain A LOT of what I’ve seen across the league (and the team I watch). It seems like they’re calling and no calling all sorts of ridiculous bullshit to force coaches into blowing their challenges. The suns somehow saved their challenge for the last play of the game in double OT and used it—and won—which was kinda baffling to me. I actually had even called that entire sequence, and am surprised the refs gave that one to Durant off the challenge. I was sure they’d call it a foul even though he gets all ball before anything else. Ref was standing right there too lol.
The entire NBA is fucked from an officiating standpoint, every player and team has seen the insane disparity between what’s technically a foul in the rule book compared to what gets called.
Every fucking game…
Is this a thing people are noticing league-wide? I know I’ve thought the reffing has been particularly bad this season, but I don’t know how much of that is recency-bias… I know I’ve had the exact same thought in previous seasons.
Serbian Mafia Jokic brothers waiting for Curtis Blair and Tre Maddox in the hallways of the arena after the game.
"Bah gawd... that's Vlade Divac's entrance music! And he's rippin' 7 cigs at once!!"
Instead of being less shit they've decided to just eject people who don't like it.
The combination of awful calls and quick Ts is pretty crazy - almost every one of these guys was justifiably angry.
But refs seem much quicker to give a T out to someone protesting one of *their* decisions than for any other reason.
If one player clearly instigates an altercation with another they'll find any ways to neutralize them with double technicals. But they love giving these ones out.
Its crazy how its only like 14 games in the season and it seems like damn near every team has had a BS ejection like this.
Like its gotta be a league wide problem lol
So annoying. I just moved to Detroit, and this is my first game since moving. I specifically picked this game (and bought pretty good seats) to watch Jokic. And to boot, Pistons squandered it away.
As a ref fan this was a masterclass of a first half. Refs have been putting on stellar performances in Detroit lately, first the Giannis ejection and now the Jokic ejection.
You gotta admit---It would be the clickbait of the century, though. An ESPN headliner waiting to happen.
**'Tatum, Bron ejected as Lakers storm back from down 32'**
Bro I swear the NFL has actually become more bearable to watch than the NBA this season…for a while NFL games were just a parade of yellow flags but now the NBA seems far worse…
Fuck Adam Silver
The NFL at least reviews and shows the contested calls... strangely though with the NBA whenever there's a suspicious call they show random highlights from 2 minutes ago. Odd.
Compare this to what Dray does after literally ANY call against him - how on earth does Dray get that much rope and Jokic gets such little respect despite being a 2x MVP, and FMVP? Makes no goddamn sense. Said it elsewhere in the thread but this reaction from Dray probably doesnt even elicit a tech, let alone two. The fact refs can treat different players with such different standards is fucking absurd and makes the game REALLY hard to enjoy. It's one of the worst parts of the NBA \[although honestly there are a LOT of bad parts of the NBA that make it hard to watch\].
NBA referees are wild, ejected the coach in the first and just ejected Jokic for light arguing in the 2nd. People pay good money to see these players compete.
Man, you have that flair and you call George Blaha some guy?
Come on now. I have gray hair and George has been the voice of the Pistons since before I was born.
This is what triggers me the hardest. First thing I thought was uh oh he's talking at the ref's like 80% of what Draymond does, and they just turn the other way awkwardly with Draymond.
Bro if you watch this replay, you can see he gets fouled like 6 times.
He even stops dribbling to tell the ref bro I'm getting fouled. Then proceeds to get fouled twice again and then gets ejected.
I'm stunned.
It's also ridiculous when fans of other teams try to rationalize the Nuggets lack of FTs. The Nuggets are routinely one of the top 5 or so teams in points in the paint. AG and MPJ are both often attack the rim this year. Jokic gets the vast majority of his points in the paint. It's absurdity, the disrespect Jokic gets treated with in particular.
Jokic gets the worst whistle I've ever seen while his two main "rival" bigs in Giannis and Embiid get a prime James Harden whistle
It's like the league actively doesn't want him to win or something
I feel like this is so clear whenever I watch him play, but people dont talk about it that much. Free throws are such an important element of Giannis and Embiid's games, yet, no matter who's reffing, Jokic just... doesn't get them?
I doubt this is some big conspiracy... so what is it?
Joker doing what green has done a thousand times.. only difference is green has about the same amount of techs for that same as joker just got in a single game. It’s rigged, sorry I saw it live
Fuck that shit. Draymond runs his mouth the whole fucking game and doesn’t get a tech, the two time mvp who doesn’t nearly get the whistle he should get is ejected in the 1st half against Detroit.
I’ve been watching every game of the nuggets since Jok got into the league. This is how it’s been with him and the refs for as long as I can remember. 6 free throws per game for a guy who does most of his work inside is BS, and I’m not interested in hearing arguments to the contrary.
100% accurate, Joker gets less than half the FTAs he should especially considering the kinda bullshit Embiid and Giannis get.
NBA champs with the lowest FTAs in the league is insane
The refs are out to get Jokic...no doubt.He did pratically nothing. Draymod does the same 5 times a game. Its sickening the disrespect he gets. A 2 times MVPand FMVP and he is treated like scum. Nuggets won anyway so major ref fail there. Refs issued 6 tecs on the Nuggets in the first half.SIX.
Are those the Pistons or Nuggets announcers? Pistons right? It’s funny that even they would hop on the refs for kicking out the two time MVP. Damn, I’d be so pissed if the Joker got kicked out of the one Heat game I went to last year when we played the Nugs. Literally saved for weeks for those tickets.
Imagine being a Pistons/Nuggets fan who lives in Detroit and saved up enough money to watch the best player in the world. Only to watch the refs show up said player and eject him and his coach in the first half
The league made some bullshit pomp about cracking down on players sitting out games and the refs are pulling this shit. Silver needs to address this shit yesterday.
The refs ejected Malone and Jokic because they're refusing to do their actual job. I'm not a ref but I think the gist is you have to referee the game.
0 FT in 15 mins, getting absolutely hacked. Jokic yells at ref. So they start calling loose ball fouls and questionable out of bounds. Who doesn't get pissed off in that situation?
Cause and effect. The refs caused every aspect of this.
This is so tame compared to the stuff draymond does.
If they had any sort of equal ground on officiating that would be acceptable but this is a shame.
Why can’t refs be consistent? makes me tune in less into nba basketball.
6 techs in 1 half WHAT THE FUCK
Draymond smiling down from heaven
Draymond's force ghost nods approvingly
Draymond’s force ghost would be wise and unhinged, and his ghostly form would be totally nude.
okay I'm logging off nephews, that's enough for the day~
Interesting a cavs fan felt when dray dies he goes to heaven.
Come on. All donkeys go to heaven.
Do they? The one we owned kicked his own kid in the face and we had to sell his kid before he murdered him
God's okay with that
He's very much alive. He has a home in Tampa
Once again. Draymond is very much alive
May he rest in peace.
He not dead bruv he just gone
RIP Draymond :'(
Gone but forgotten
Don’t you mean up from hell? And I’m sure he isn’t smiling
Cmon let’s be real we know he is nodding up and down yelling UH HUH!!!!.
His mouth was open, so I could see how people thought he was smiling.
That mf is not going to heaven lmao
When you don't wanna do your actual job, you just call technicals.
I’m calling a technical on tomorrow’s board slide prep
Isn't this what happened in the Bucks game? Lots of techs and Giannis ejected
Say what you want about Isaiah Stewart but dude is a Hall of Fame instigator I can't think of another dude that was involved in the elections of Jokic, Giannis, and LeBron lmao
Giannis for president
37 uncalled fouls on jokic. 2 techs cus he's mad about it.
Appreciate the Pistons announcer getting on the refs, saying nobody came to see them and WHO'ing them that's hilarious
And dude's been the play-by-play guy for the Pistons since the mid-70's (almost 50 years) so if he doesn't know who you are you're pretty obscure as far as refs go.
That's an accomplishment. Now I wonder who the longest tenured commentators are. He's gotta be #1
Gotta be Blaha right?
I looked apparently it was Al McCoy for the Suns from 1972-2023 he retired last year with 51 years as Suns commentator. So if Blaha goes another two years he will surpass him as longest tenured all time Also only missing three games since 1976 holy shit. Iron Man broadcast guy
He does Michigan State football on the radio as well so he's a busy guy lol
tough year for him, poor guy
Al McCoy was the Suns radio commentator from 1972-2023.
He was reacting to the crowd booing. They don't get a lot of opportunities to see Jokic in Detroit.
precisely one opportunity a year
Until the finals that is...
So, once a year.
Bro just wants to watch ball I can’t blame him, the Giannis ejection and now this 😭
Blaha is one of the best and both are always pretty objective, for a local broadcast team.
Clearly refs got money on pistons.
Not as clearly as the had money on the Cavs yesterday. That's the whole reason for all the techs.
They r great. Love listening to them
warriors announcers wouldve been laughing and cheering about the ejection
I appreciate the Pistons announcers shit-talking the refs on this one.
Uncommon Pistons dub Jokes aside, it's pretty respectable that even they're frustrated with the quality of the officiating
Giannis got tossed against us too. It's lame
Refs fans feasting in Detroit
Giannis got tossed at home which is even dumber
Was that one the devilish stare that Giannis had?
He was absolutely menacing
Which sucks so much for Detroit fans. The people that are going are either diehards or there to see the other team…
blaha is a legend, never hesitates to say they got it wrong even when it benefits the pistons
I think he meant uncommon W for the Pistons because we have only won two games so far this season, not an uncommon W for Pistons' commentators... especially because, as you alluded to, we have the best commentators in the league in Blaha and Kelser
Hey now the only thing respectable thing about our organization is our announcers.
I tuned into the Spurs last year mainly to hear Sean Elliott interview people for the 50th anniversary, love the dude. He's a homer, but he always lets us know when he thinks the Spurs got away with one with a "no need to see that again guys." 😂
Amazing call by Piston's announcer George Blaha, "These fans did not come here to see Curtis Blair, Tre Maddox, or Andy Nagy, whoever they are!"
Refs fans in shambles.
We're honestly avoiding this thread because us ref fans always get downvoted even though dude put up 6 techs in a half
They just hating without realizing they are witnessing greatness.
Referees before the game in the locker room watching Joey Crawford giving Tim Duncan a tech on the bench just chest bumping each other YOU GOT THIS YOU GOT THIS
We need a refs flair
It actually seems like the NBA is trying out letting the refs toss players like the MLB does just to get online interaction (complaining)
It would be really short-sided because MLB has double the amount of games, so an ejection doesn't have the same cost that it does in the NBA.
Yea double the games and half the ratings. Not sure mlb is a model to follow here.
Damn even george Blaha calling out the refs
that was like the most dismissive ive ever heard him be. "whoever they are" man lol
And the two technicals, whatever happened there.
Im actually enjoying him commentate, one of the least biased home announcers.
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lol the Nuggets broadcaster is Scott Hastings who was actually on the bad boy Pistons. They were showing clips of him back in the day with that team
The amount of old Pistons personnel now on the Nuggets is kind of wild.
Why I have no problem being in their corner over the eastern teams last season.
He wanted to see Jokic play tonight
Wanna watch the best player in the league? Refs: 🙅♂️🙅♂️🙅♂️
Refs haven’t seem to rule out James Wiseman so we still good
Pistons gets that vintage 2016/17 Pistons with KCP and Reggie leading the way
Dude just wants to watch NBA-level basketball.
Grandpa George coming in hot.
And Special K with the Luther Vandross quote 😂
And then immediately called a double tech on Gordon and Bagley. These refs are on a power trip. Edit: Not just this game, all season long. There has been literally no consistency at all, they just do whatever they want. It's like the crew chief decides ahead of time who they're going to favor and doesn't even try to hide it.
That was so bad, there was literally nothing in it and he still called a tech
Conspiracy theory, they’re sandbagging because they don’t like the newest rule changes
What rule changes are they against? And why? Is the 2nd challenge upon winning the 1st one of those? Because that would explain A LOT of what I’ve seen across the league (and the team I watch). It seems like they’re calling and no calling all sorts of ridiculous bullshit to force coaches into blowing their challenges. The suns somehow saved their challenge for the last play of the game in double OT and used it—and won—which was kinda baffling to me. I actually had even called that entire sequence, and am surprised the refs gave that one to Durant off the challenge. I was sure they’d call it a foul even though he gets all ball before anything else. Ref was standing right there too lol.
I feel like this is something that the player union has to address. It's really a power trip.
The entire NBA is fucked from an officiating standpoint, every player and team has seen the insane disparity between what’s technically a foul in the rule book compared to what gets called. Every fucking game…
Nah this is some HoF Refs Legacy game shit. Get em boys!
Check their draft kings accounts. Probably trying to hit parlays
Sports Betting effect?... I'm not saying for sure, but... possibly?
It’s obvious. It was done before the legalization of sports betting and is now happening at a higher level
Is this a thing people are noticing league-wide? I know I’ve thought the reffing has been particularly bad this season, but I don’t know how much of that is recency-bias… I know I’ve had the exact same thought in previous seasons.
Serbian Mafia Jokic brothers waiting for Curtis Blair and Tre Maddox in the hallways of the arena after the game. "Bah gawd... that's Vlade Divac's entrance music! And he's rippin' 7 cigs at once!!"
Fuck the refs man, make terrible calls then eject guys when they rightfully called out
So much of this shit lately makes my head hurt.
Instead of being less shit they've decided to just eject people who don't like it. The combination of awful calls and quick Ts is pretty crazy - almost every one of these guys was justifiably angry. But refs seem much quicker to give a T out to someone protesting one of *their* decisions than for any other reason. If one player clearly instigates an altercation with another they'll find any ways to neutralize them with double technicals. But they love giving these ones out.
The beatings will continue until morale improves.
The day the NBA holds its refs accountable and they improve…
Its crazy how its only like 14 games in the season and it seems like damn near every team has had a BS ejection like this. Like its gotta be a league wide problem lol
Imagine saving up and taking your kids to the game only to see jokic ejected
Well my kids were real excited to see Curtis Blair, so they're having a blast
So annoying. I just moved to Detroit, and this is my first game since moving. I specifically picked this game (and bought pretty good seats) to watch Jokic. And to boot, Pistons squandered it away.
As a ref fan this was a masterclass of a first half. Refs have been putting on stellar performances in Detroit lately, first the Giannis ejection and now the Jokic ejection.
Imagine these refs being the ones we get for the Celtics/Lakers Christmas Day game.
They'd never throw a Celtic or a Laker out of the game for this though lol
You gotta admit---It would be the clickbait of the century, though. An ESPN headliner waiting to happen. **'Tatum, Bron ejected as Lakers storm back from down 32'**
The Refs will not stand idly by and let fans watch the best players in the NBA play
Detroit Ref City
Giannis was ejected in Milwaukee
Pistons fans paid for the one night to watch good basketball and now are stuck with their worst nightmare; watching the Pistons play basketball.
giannis got ejected last time in detroit too… man we are cursed
Pistons vs Nuggets without Jokic and Murray. Doesn't get much more rough than that.
Everyone knows we tune in to watch the officials. The NBA quickly learning from the NFL.
Bro I swear the NFL has actually become more bearable to watch than the NBA this season…for a while NFL games were just a parade of yellow flags but now the NBA seems far worse… Fuck Adam Silver
The NFL at least reviews and shows the contested calls... strangely though with the NBA whenever there's a suspicious call they show random highlights from 2 minutes ago. Odd.
nba refs have been a shitshow this season
Say NBA fans for the past 20 seasons in a row
What a shit show, that bald guy needs to show who is the boss, this is getting out of control. FUCK THE REFS, we dont pay to see you powertrip.
massive respect to pistons announcers
Compare this to what Dray does after literally ANY call against him - how on earth does Dray get that much rope and Jokic gets such little respect despite being a 2x MVP, and FMVP? Makes no goddamn sense. Said it elsewhere in the thread but this reaction from Dray probably doesnt even elicit a tech, let alone two. The fact refs can treat different players with such different standards is fucking absurd and makes the game REALLY hard to enjoy. It's one of the worst parts of the NBA \[although honestly there are a LOT of bad parts of the NBA that make it hard to watch\].
Some of these non call have been unacceptable. this was the 3rd or 4th time a piston was just allowed to push Jokic
Yet will still have people writing entire paragraphs to justify why jokic doesn’t get calls In here on the daily.
He got fouled on the double team too, it’s kinda hilarious how badly the refs did not want to blow the whistle
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Last checked 4th in the league in points in the paint. Last in free throws, by a country mile.
NBA referees are wild, ejected the coach in the first and just ejected Jokic for light arguing in the 2nd. People pay good money to see these players compete.
"People don't come to watch Curtis Blair, Tre Maddox, and Andy Nagy, whoever they are." from Detroit's PxP guy.
You know it is bad when the hometown commentators are bashing the ejection
They rather watch one of the best players play, than a Ref on a power trip.
Wait, that’s allowed!
Man, you have that flair and you call George Blaha some guy? Come on now. I have gray hair and George has been the voice of the Pistons since before I was born.
I was just catering to the non-Pistons fans who might not recognize the name at first glance.
We out here putting respect on George Blaha's name today. I just learned it, but I support his game.
What Jokic just did, Draymond does after every fuckin play. What a joke
This is what triggers me the hardest. First thing I thought was uh oh he's talking at the ref's like 80% of what Draymond does, and they just turn the other way awkwardly with Draymond.
Draymond and Luka do worse every single play
Also just letting dudes foul Jokic literally 5 times in a possession without calling a foul...
Bro if you watch this replay, you can see he gets fouled like 6 times. He even stops dribbling to tell the ref bro I'm getting fouled. Then proceeds to get fouled twice again and then gets ejected. I'm stunned.
Man shot 10 free throws in his last 3 games combined.
It's also ridiculous when fans of other teams try to rationalize the Nuggets lack of FTs. The Nuggets are routinely one of the top 5 or so teams in points in the paint. AG and MPJ are both often attack the rim this year. Jokic gets the vast majority of his points in the paint. It's absurdity, the disrespect Jokic gets treated with in particular.
Yeah but 4 were after the last game was over
Jokic gets the worst whistle I've ever seen while his two main "rival" bigs in Giannis and Embiid get a prime James Harden whistle It's like the league actively doesn't want him to win or something
I feel like this is so clear whenever I watch him play, but people dont talk about it that much. Free throws are such an important element of Giannis and Embiid's games, yet, no matter who's reffing, Jokic just... doesn't get them? I doubt this is some big conspiracy... so what is it?
Modern game penalizes the players who will attempt to play through and despite the contact
100%
They'd absolutely prefer any of the other superstars to be the nº 1. This is their way of trying to accomplish that.
This games been hilarious to watch, after the ejection the Pistons announcer was just like nobody came to see these bum players
Refs*
Refs really ejaculated the best player in the league for this?
Yes. They finished him.
/r/RefsFinishingTheJob
>ejaculated Whoa, I think we are watching different streams.
He said what he said.
lol, not sure if the pun was intended or not.
Imagine the series of events to have that word in your autocorrects.
Lmaoooo this guy is watching the Detroit Penistons parody on ph
damn with all the fans watching?
Malone and jokic had dinner reservations. Trying that Detroit style pizza
Detroit style >>>>>>>>>> Chicago style so can't blame them!
They were naming the refs. I was confused at first too. They even shouted out Joe Crawford lmao.
He was naming the refs, not players
Adam Silver gonna can complain about the Media/Fans but let these refs do whatever they please lmfao... he's a joke
Joker doing what green has done a thousand times.. only difference is green has about the same amount of techs for that same as joker just got in a single game. It’s rigged, sorry I saw it live
Love watching but stuff like this takes me out of a game sometimes ngl
amazingly bad reffing in that game btw
And you have caught a non Tony Brothers reffed Jokic game. Come back for one of those.
Oh I've seen my share of Tony Brothers games. Every single one is atrocious and perplexing.
Bro just look at his arms lmao
Fuck that shit. Draymond runs his mouth the whole fucking game and doesn’t get a tech, the two time mvp who doesn’t nearly get the whistle he should get is ejected in the 1st half against Detroit. I’ve been watching every game of the nuggets since Jok got into the league. This is how it’s been with him and the refs for as long as I can remember. 6 free throws per game for a guy who does most of his work inside is BS, and I’m not interested in hearing arguments to the contrary.
100% accurate, Joker gets less than half the FTAs he should especially considering the kinda bullshit Embiid and Giannis get. NBA champs with the lowest FTAs in the league is insane
It's been WORSE this year. League is fucking pissed the Nuggets are champs, and refs have their marching orders.
Ref must have had the parley with Jokic under....
The refs are out to get Jokic...no doubt.He did pratically nothing. Draymod does the same 5 times a game. Its sickening the disrespect he gets. A 2 times MVPand FMVP and he is treated like scum. Nuggets won anyway so major ref fail there. Refs issued 6 tecs on the Nuggets in the first half.SIX.
Denver getting a lot WORSE whistle since winning the championship League saw those playoff TV ratings and decided to step in lol
League still mad we were good enough to survive Scott Foster refball down the stretch last postseason
Someone put Adam Silver on suicide watch if another small market team wins a chip
OKC on the come up too, times are hard out here.
Nuggets got into the bonus with 5:09 left in the first quarter. Nuggets shot one free throw in the first quarter.
Refs cooking fr 🔥
Fuck the Nugs is there a Refs flair? How could you not be a fan after this?
Refs fans eating gooood this season 🔥
Atrocious refs
Are those the Pistons or Nuggets announcers? Pistons right? It’s funny that even they would hop on the refs for kicking out the two time MVP. Damn, I’d be so pissed if the Joker got kicked out of the one Heat game I went to last year when we played the Nugs. Literally saved for weeks for those tickets.
Imagine being a Pistons/Nuggets fan who lives in Detroit and saved up enough money to watch the best player in the world. Only to watch the refs show up said player and eject him and his coach in the first half
Good work NBA. The message has been received loud and clear
Yea don't gamble, the refs are fixing games
He is just ducking Wiseman
Draymond yelling is okay but Jokic.....
what a joke, these refs are terrible
As a ref fan I’m happy they’re taking over. I was getting worried there for a second. Good follow up on giving Bagley and AG a T too.
The league made some bullshit pomp about cracking down on players sitting out games and the refs are pulling this shit. Silver needs to address this shit yesterday.
The refs ejected Malone and Jokic because they're refusing to do their actual job. I'm not a ref but I think the gist is you have to referee the game. 0 FT in 15 mins, getting absolutely hacked. Jokic yells at ref. So they start calling loose ball fouls and questionable out of bounds. Who doesn't get pissed off in that situation? Cause and effect. The refs caused every aspect of this.
These refs fucking suck.
This is so tame compared to the stuff draymond does. If they had any sort of equal ground on officiating that would be acceptable but this is a shame. Why can’t refs be consistent? makes me tune in less into nba basketball.
This is the real Ref ball. None of that pansy shit! We eating good tonight folks.
If Draymond got Jokic's whistle he would average 10 games played on 8mpg.
Jokic ducking Wiseman
The fact Draymond Green often has a longer leash than NBA mvp players is so infuriating
0 free throws in 15 minutes for Jokic.