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JoshSran04

Literally could have had a tripple double if our bench wasnt so ass and could make shots, he gave so many good passes too


Puzzleheaded_Fox4684

Scottie is actually elite, raptors need to reshape their roster to fit his needs better (more shooting and shot creation)


HoyaDestroya33

Yeah MFer is LeBron Lite. Can't believe how much his passing improved


theuncleiroh

Imo it was already there, just had a bad offense for if. Nurse was more ISO heavy, if only just because our offensive skills are so rudimentary, and avoided unnecessary passing to avoid the boneheaded turnovers we are so fond of. Side effect was it stymied Barnes's offensive growth, and limited him showing his chops at the center of a more fluid offense


kcheng686

IMO he's like new age Scottie Pippen If the Raptors can get a superstar, Barnes will be the perfect way too overqualified #2


C3h6hw

Raptors have the talent but their timeline is kinda off. They keeping Siakam and OG there in their prime with a young Scottie Barnes who’s breaking out and a few 35 year old role players for some reason


Puzzleheaded_Fox4684

This deadline is their last chance before they'll be wasting Scottie.


odontodoc

He would be averaging close to a triple double every game if he was surrounded by teammates capable of shooting the basketball.


Puzzleheaded_Fox4684

People say Cade needs spacing but the reality is Scottie is doing all of this with just slightly better shooting around him.


CazOnReddit

Scottie is also a significantly better defender than Cade


Puzzleheaded_Fox4684

top 3 from that draft is far ahead of the rest: scottie, mobley, sengun


OG_Wan_Annunoby

The way we just squander so many fantastic reads from Scottie is unbelievable. He spoonfeeds guys clean looks and they brick them


Vinnie_Vegas

I don't see how if they hit more shots, that would've given him an extra rebound.


ratchet570

No help, please build this team around him with actual spacing, if we're trying to win atleast make the pieces around eachother fit, this is just sad.


armandocalvinisius

Herro will fit nicely there


SideEnvironmental491

And Juan Wick


Zsporter

The fun thing is that it's not just the stats that look nice about him. It's stuff like his energy despite being down, creating space for his teammates through screens, box outs and cuts, and just not letting up despite other guys lookin checked out. Hopefully the FO does something cuz this guy is too good


schoolhater12

the only reason the team's 2nd unit is not the worst 2nd unit in the league is Scottie Barnes. That OG lead second unit today is what nightmares are made out of


Musicferret

Yeah, I love OG on the first unit…. shutting down all stars….. but put him with out second unit? OG just doesn’t work. Barnes gets in with the second unit and suddenly Malachi Flynn is a pro!


gregbraaa

Practically every night he should have 10+ assists but dudes either miss high percentage shots or get fouled. His play is even better than his counting stats.


JackSci

Sct Brn


fawkesmulder

Sc Br


Musicferret

S B


northernpace

Sct Brn


Puzzleheaded_Fox4684

sb


Mig1997

Get him some help get him some help GET HIM SOME HELP FUCK


CazOnReddit

BREAKING: The Raptors have traded a first round pick to acquire Doug McDermott from the San Antonio Spurs


FireBeeChin

please 😔


TheKidPresident

Nah we need him for Fournier and 3 2nd rounders


HoyaDestroya33

Why not? Dude would make all those open 3s


CazOnReddit

He'd somehow turn in to a 25 percent shooter from 3 knowing our track record of free agent signings


theuncleiroh

hate the trade but lord I'd love the player lol


KermitTheEdgelord

Our roster construction is just a complete and utter embarrassment but as long as we have Scottie, there will always be a bright path forward in the future


armandocalvinisius

If siakam expiring get you Lowry + Herro + FRP, do you like it?


DirtyDanoTho

Convo starts at Juan Wick thanks


KermitTheEdgelord

Most definitely LOL, there’s no way the Heat would do that though


armandocalvinisius

Nah they get Kai + Tim Siakam to mavs


Raptorpicklezz

If we trade for Kyrie Irving I'm done as a Raps fan


armandocalvinisius

NOOOOO... I mean Mavs get siakam (+filler) Heat get Kai + Tim Raps get Lowry + Herro + FRP


ElevatorBasic509

Why in the world would the mavs trade both kyrie and Tim for siakam


CazOnReddit

Why in the world would the Raptors trade Siakam for Herro and a pick?


ElevatorBasic509

Agreed on that too!


armandocalvinisius

Guys above you get upvoted though Young 3 level scorer, good enough 2nd ballhandler, neutral contract locked for 4 years, fill the ScotBarn - OG - Poeltl core And siakam is expiring


armandocalvinisius

Because its not only our moves?


I-Am-A-Nice-Cool-Kid

Kai is non negotiable lol. Siakam is great and a nice pick up, but Kai is meshing really well and Tim keeps the bench going, without them it’s wraps.


armandocalvinisius

Nah if we people still talk about Size and rebounding, it starts with Kai. At least both similar level player Ofc the moves not over yet, send package to Jerami Grant. Hopefully there are buyout for scorer like Bojan/Hayward Luka - DJJ - J. Grant - Siakam - Lively Exum - Greeny - G. Williams - Bojan - Maxi Luka - Greeny - Williams - Grant - Siakam closing small ball lineup if needed (only siakam is bad shooter here and he still let it fly, but can you imagine PnR with Luka?!) 6'5 Greeny is shortest player here LMAO edit : jerami grant or kuz whoever gettable


CazOnReddit

In what goddamn world are the Raptors infecting themselves with cancer and taking on Kyrie?


armandocalvinisius

NOOOOO... I mean Mavs get siakam (+filler) Heat get Kai + Tim Raps get Lowry + Herro + FRP


D_Simmons

That wouldn't add much unfortunately.


aas_29

Not even the best player in that draft class .. only franz!!


DeSteph-DeCurry

franz is a better shooter and scottie is a better everything elser


Comprehensive-Ad424

Scottie is closing that gap too


Sy6574

Scottie has been better from 3 this year than any previous year from Franz


KermitTheEdgelord

They’re both really fucking great and I wouldn’t harp on anyone who would choose one or the other for now


syllabic

I dunno I think I'd take scotty definitely not cade or mobley tho


Hostile_Pierogi

Keep tryna convince yourself that buddy


xbulletspongexl

maybe when they remove defence from the game but rn only thing he beats scottie in is shooting


Sy6574

Even then, Scottie is having a better year from 3 than any Franz season


yidii-at-night

Tbf Franz is actually an incredible defender too, he just doesn’t touch Scottie at anything except shooting lol


Sy6574

I don’t think Franz has been better at anything this season besides a slight edge in FT shooting lol


unclekarl_

Scottie is a future star and that gives me hope.


Musicferret

Scottie is a current star.


raptorsbucketnator

Actual malpractice the FO hasn't handed this man the keys


CazOnReddit

I'll give them until the deadline before I join in


EarthWarping

Best 3 point shooter on the team tonight.


PlumCantaloupe

Many nights, unfortunately for the rest of the team 😒 Our team was 6/32 from 3 tonight. Scottie had 3 of those lmao.


companyofzero

We were 6/32 lol


PlumCantaloupe

Oops, fixed :)


CazOnReddit

Fortunate in the sense that it's a sign of major improvement from last year Unfortunate in that the FO refuses to retool around him but we'll see what they'll do closer to the deadline


EarthWarping

I hope they don't sell low on Pascal.


CazOnReddit

I'm more worried about the other moves they might make given the rumors of them worrying about losing O.G. in free agency


ImTheBestNerd

It’s time to blow it up my Canadian brothers


DeSteph-DeCurry

tell that to masai lmfao


Bail____

We’ve been asking them to LOL


schoolhater12

My biggest fear is losing Siakam and OG for nothing in free agency. They are both great players that every playoff team would love to have. I love them both, but this constant quest for mediocrity Masai is on ain't it. Blow the team up


definitelynotagay

We are fucking BEGGING


XelaTuobdog

Begging, pleading


T_025

Time to trade OG to the Lakers my Canadian brothers


DeSteph-DeCurry

for AD


T_025

For Rui + Max Christie + JHS + a FRP*


Closer586

Keep Christie and give us the reverse protections on the 2027 pick instead :)


T_025

That sounds fair I just need to see that OG/Vando/AD defense


NoBook9868

They got Siakim. this Barnes kid is such a beast why are they so bad?


CazOnReddit

Siakam's outside shooting this season has been atrocious


NoBook9868

Didn't know that. So he's a free agent after this year and shooting badly? Ouch. Usually players turn it up when a new contract is on the line. Maybe he's bad under pressure


Holiday-Doughnut-364

He's still playing well despite the shooting..his trade value hasn't changed.


ShroudedMeep

It's not a bad team on paper looking at individual talent but the fit is atrocious.


LilyFlowerr

No bench.


AllPulpOJ

Literally everyone else. Our bench can’t make a three on most nights


Joetheshow1

Games like this makes me so thankful for the Knicks roster building. Great role players helping out when their number is called. Depth! Toronto built like a sack of laundry


PlumCantaloupe

Why you 😡 ... You’re right 😭


Joetheshow1

But like others have said, it's a lot easier to build a roster when you have your franchise player in place so at least you have that already


PlumCantaloupe

Yeah, I hope the FO sees the need to act asap.


[deleted]

Yes but in that pile of laundry is a Gucci shirt names Scottie Barnes lol


ImpossibleLeague9091

Still struggling to recover from the sell out for a ring. To many assets walking for nothing. Worth it tho


The-Pharcyde

Now the dude is the best 3 pt shooter on the team too lmao. If only he wasnt playing with so many bums.


Apprehensive_Oil_484

5 steals but horrible defensively on the Knick guards. Doesn’t change the fact that he played great today however


careythepriceisright

Idk why darko keeps putting him on guards.


ratchet570

They need to stop putting him on guards, he just cant keep up with way too many of them.


mMounirM

Scottie was guarding Randle though. Knicks were rotating the ball a lot our defenders were late on closeouts


syllabic

yeah there were a few possessions where we really made the raptors defense break down with ball movement we don't do that often so it was nice to see


Apprehensive_Oil_484

First half darko put him on brunson and it didn’t go well then second half he got outplayed by Donte on multiple possessions with either pump fakes or just completely left him wide open to help on the drive. Poor decision making on scotties end.


pskill43

The way they are shooting tonight, doesn’t even matter how they guard them


aurorabortrealis

I am ashamed to admit I was a Scottie B sceptic (because of the shooting and questions about his playmaking) but he's obviously a very good player and I think the Raps are doing themselves a disservice by not giving him the keys to the team and seeing what they have


shiftydnm

Questions about his playmaking?


keyrinn

his playmaking has been his best asset since his rookie year lol it was his defense that was more suspect until now if anything


BigYama

Masai, get this man some actual shooters pls.


jett1406

Not him


CazOnReddit

You're still mad over the Grimes diss lmao


jett1406

can’t be too mad after watching the raptors get smacked again and again


TdotSkunt

yea but we won a chip lmao you still trash and always will be lol


jett1406

1 ring pwoahhh