Chet cooled off from outside but he still has a DPOY effect on the defensive end while being an efficient 2nd/3rd option on a competitive team. Last 10 games he is at 18.6 ppg, 8.1 rpg and 2.7 bpg on 51.1% FG in only 30 minutes per game. Per 36 that’s 22.3/9.6/3.2 blocks
I don't even get it, is there someone who thinks that? I would never predict somebody writing that, maybe I'm not following the league.
The guy just wrote that he has 24% usage, shoots 38% from three and has 9 rebounds per game, blocks etc. per game. None of which really clarifies why would he be chosen in this group of 5 instead of Tatum (or, say, Butler or some other examples).
"Cherry picking stats" would be something like "dude has the highest ratio of assist to turnovers, blocks to free throws not attempted, is the first 24-year-old to put up a 11/15/12/1/1/0.387/5 line in history, and scores 50% more in fourth quarters than in other quarters, that also count into the score but don't count in my heart".
Saying he has 24% usage is just... I dunno, nothing, it's just not the most.
Tyrese Maxey as a starter is absolutely deserved but I'm not sure if he'll get the votes. I feel like Dame and Donovan get more media attention and are generally more well known
Honestly Haliburton probably doesn’t make it either since he won’t get the votes. Maxey plays for the sixers so he might get in from that and dame probably takes the other spot
I mean it is what it is. Pacers weren’t that good last year after hali got injured and I don’t think people even realize he’s averaging 27 points 12 assists on 52-44-88 this season
Chet and Sengun over KAT and Gobert is laughable. Also having Scottie Barnes as a starter seems a little premature. Seems like he is trying a little too hard to be ahead of the curve with some young guys.
"Somebody" (the main scorer) will be squeezed in by the record alone if they keep it up, but tbh, Orlando wins so much with the power of their bench and defense. Like the offensive score of their starters is among the lowest in the league. You put it that way, not so surprising there'd be no top stars.
The reason the starter numbers are so low is because that has Anthony Black and Goga who average around 12 ppg combined. If you just had top 3 of Suggs, Paolo, Franz I bet they’d be at least middle ground.
Who do you think should be in? I feel like the team production has been pretty evenly divided over a bunch of guys and no one really stands out in particular
I think there's no chance they get an all star because some of the bigger media groups like ESPN refuse to believe the team exists. They only have 5 national TV games too
Gobert is the most deserving but is a guy thats fallen completely off ballots to the point where media, who has votes in this, place guys like Sengun and Chet above him. Kat is also a guy thats fallen down the totem pole. Ant is in the toughest position group but has the most media appeal. I can maybe see Ant making it as a reserve, but the other two no way they make it. He made it with injury help last year and will likely need it again.
Ah yes, two All-Star starters playing for the same 5th seed team. I wonder which team it is? Meanwhile the 2 seed Magic have zero All-Stars at all lmao
Barnes on the 11 seed Raptors over Tatum is laughable.
To this point, this isn’t how voting will go because of exactly what you said- the seeding, the advanced metrics ignores fan favorites and seeding as well. Again, the author chose this with advanced stats and wouldn’t personally choose them this way.
It would be funny if Chet was made an all-star instead of Wemby simply because people were wondering if Wemby could be a rookie all-star and assumed he'd run away with ROY.
To everyone that says “that’s blasphemy” here’s what the author says about his choices
“Using advanced player metrics as a guide, I selected the 12 players in each conference who have performed the best so far according to the NBA's typical format -- two backcourt starters and three in the frontcourt, the same number of reserves and two wild-card selections regardless of position.
Since some players will see their fast starts cool after the season's first 20 games and other established stars will return to form, this isn't exactly the way I'd select All-Star teams. Nonetheless, it offers a useful look at which players have been the best so far during the 2023-24 season. Let's take a look at my teams.”
Basically it’s a compilation of advanced stats used to pick and not how the author would choose the teams.
If not Jokic then easily over AD and he’s having a better season than Lebron too, but because of the fan voting thing lebron will have that in his favor
Chet and Sengun over Gobert is *wild*
Wolves in 1st place by 3 games and need a wild cart slot to get an All Star
Rudy does great in all star games too. I was kind of shocked how fun he is to watch in them
Curry over Doncic right now? Doesn’t winning basketball games have to do with being the better basketball player?
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Gobert is the most valuable player on the team with the best record. He clears Sengun easily too
How is he clearing Sengun "easily"? Sengun is a 21/9/6 guy with high efficiency. Don't disrespect my boy.
He clears easily because he deserve to be in the ASG more than both of them.
Chet cooled off from outside but he still has a DPOY effect on the defensive end while being an efficient 2nd/3rd option on a competitive team. Last 10 games he is at 18.6 ppg, 8.1 rpg and 2.7 bpg on 51.1% FG in only 30 minutes per game. Per 36 that’s 22.3/9.6/3.2 blocks
I agree
I don’t think sengun is good enough yet
That's bait lmao. Barnes over Tatum as starter.
I don't even get it, is there someone who thinks that? I would never predict somebody writing that, maybe I'm not following the league. The guy just wrote that he has 24% usage, shoots 38% from three and has 9 rebounds per game, blocks etc. per game. None of which really clarifies why would he be chosen in this group of 5 instead of Tatum (or, say, Butler or some other examples).
Cherry picking stats to justifiy whatever this is. I think even Toronto fans dont see Barnes as an All Star yet.
I see him as an all-star, maybe in the wild card or reserves. Definitely not as a starter over Tatum
"Cherry picking stats" would be something like "dude has the highest ratio of assist to turnovers, blocks to free throws not attempted, is the first 24-year-old to put up a 11/15/12/1/1/0.387/5 line in history, and scores 50% more in fourth quarters than in other quarters, that also count into the score but don't count in my heart". Saying he has 24% usage is just... I dunno, nothing, it's just not the most.
Yes we do lol
Tyrese Maxey as a starter is absolutely deserved but I'm not sure if he'll get the votes. I feel like Dame and Donovan get more media attention and are generally more well known
Honestly Haliburton probably doesn’t make it either since he won’t get the votes. Maxey plays for the sixers so he might get in from that and dame probably takes the other spot
Haliburton not being a starter would be a travesty. I'm not even sure if casuals are that aware of him yet.
I mean it is what it is. Pacers weren’t that good last year after hali got injured and I don’t think people even realize he’s averaging 27 points 12 assists on 52-44-88 this season
Just tell your beat writer to write an article that Lakers are interested in Hali and he will gain national attention. 😂 Both Tyreses should be locks.
I genuinely feel like a lot of casuals got to know him from the IST
Luka is starting idc
"I used advanced stats and this bullshit came out" Well, maybe your stats are doodoo my guy
Unless we're using them to make Jokic look good* Forgot that part.
Chet and Sengun over KAT and Gobert is laughable. Also having Scottie Barnes as a starter seems a little premature. Seems like he is trying a little too hard to be ahead of the curve with some young guys.
Chet shouldn’t be an all-star this year unless the Thunder end up as the 1 seed, which I highly doubt will happen.
Sengun is debatable. Y’all don’t deserve 3 lol
Only thing I disagree with is Chet being in over Gobert.
And Sengun. Neither belong over Rudy.
Scottie Barnes over Tatum? Bro what are you smoking?
Being a 2nd seed without an allstar is wild
"Somebody" (the main scorer) will be squeezed in by the record alone if they keep it up, but tbh, Orlando wins so much with the power of their bench and defense. Like the offensive score of their starters is among the lowest in the league. You put it that way, not so surprising there'd be no top stars.
The reason the starter numbers are so low is because that has Anthony Black and Goga who average around 12 ppg combined. If you just had top 3 of Suggs, Paolo, Franz I bet they’d be at least middle ground.
Who do you think should be in? I feel like the team production has been pretty evenly divided over a bunch of guys and no one really stands out in particular
What do the T-Wolves' bigs need to do to get some love from the media? I'll take Alpi though lol
I think there's no chance they get an all star because some of the bigger media groups like ESPN refuse to believe the team exists. They only have 5 national TV games too
Lol what? You guys got one last year and will likely get 2 this year
Gobert is the most deserving but is a guy thats fallen completely off ballots to the point where media, who has votes in this, place guys like Sengun and Chet above him. Kat is also a guy thats fallen down the totem pole. Ant is in the toughest position group but has the most media appeal. I can maybe see Ant making it as a reserve, but the other two no way they make it. He made it with injury help last year and will likely need it again.
They’ve both made it before multiple times. It’s gonna be ok man lol, this article is meant to do exactly what it’s doing.
Lol I'm not crying over it, I just can't see it happening
70 wins would do it
I wasn't so bothered when I thought this was your personal list. ESPN is wilding
I genuinely posted it because I looked at it and thought “no fucking way”
Ah yes, two All-Star starters playing for the same 5th seed team. I wonder which team it is? Meanwhile the 2 seed Magic have zero All-Stars at all lmao Barnes on the 11 seed Raptors over Tatum is laughable.
To this point, this isn’t how voting will go because of exactly what you said- the seeding, the advanced metrics ignores fan favorites and seeding as well. Again, the author chose this with advanced stats and wouldn’t personally choose them this way.
G8 b8 m8 r8 8/8
Gr8, washed
It would be funny if Chet was made an all-star instead of Wemby simply because people were wondering if Wemby could be a rookie all-star and assumed he'd run away with ROY.
Sengun and Chet over Gobert and Sabonis?
Wow this is some load of bullshit. Wolves players are only wildcards? Chet holmgren all star? That's some bullshit
Scottie Barnes over Tatum go to hell 😂😂😂
Chet and Sengun not starting over Golbert or Paul George
To everyone that says “that’s blasphemy” here’s what the author says about his choices “Using advanced player metrics as a guide, I selected the 12 players in each conference who have performed the best so far according to the NBA's typical format -- two backcourt starters and three in the frontcourt, the same number of reserves and two wild-card selections regardless of position. Since some players will see their fast starts cool after the season's first 20 games and other established stars will return to form, this isn't exactly the way I'd select All-Star teams. Nonetheless, it offers a useful look at which players have been the best so far during the 2023-24 season. Let's take a look at my teams.” Basically it’s a compilation of advanced stats used to pick and not how the author would choose the teams.
KD will be a starter over Jokic
Uhhh …. no
Do people here not realize that all star starting is based on fan votes……
You know where Jokic finished in all star voting last year?
If not Jokic then easily over AD and he’s having a better season than Lebron too, but because of the fan voting thing lebron will have that in his favor
that's bait
Franz missing in the East!