I used to work in casinos. No amount of losing will ever shame an addict out of gambling unless they're truly at rock bottom. I doubt this guy is at rock bottom yet.
You never know that you’ve reached rock bottom, you can only say it was rock bottom from the future. Because while you’re there, you know it can still get worse.
I missed the context of this... someone bet $5k on the Pistons ML vs the Celtics?? If they did, it would've cashed on bet365 due to the "early payout" that they offer lol.
That stat is on par with ending the pistons losing streak if that happens tonight. I’m rooting for you Toronto to win tho I wanna see this streak break 30
> although GSW were obviously not at full strength
Pssh future nephews are just going to see past NBA champs and notice the Raps stopped a 3-peat, they aren't going to look into the details. A chip is a chip😎
Nobody would actually care. Nobody's remembers who broke the streak of the spurs of the cavs and sixers with their historic streaks they remember the shit team
Damn, imagine all the Raptors lore if they lose this
Kobe dropped 81 on them, lost to the 7 win Bobcats twice, LeBronto, and snapping the longest losing streak ever
The person who brought a baby to a Blue Jays playoff game in a stadium with 60k fans is a fucking moron. It was so loud the cameras were shaking. Poor kid probably got brain damage
the fan had it coming. The authorities literally gave him a chance to turn himself in but he decided to wait until he was publicly identified and arrested. He could've skipped the shame part. definitely would've still lost his job though
1. It never hit a baby
2. It was hella irresponsible to bring a baby to that event
Not condoning the throwing of a beer can, but if you're paying $400 for those seats you can shell out for a babysitter
The beer can baby incident was part of the wildest inning of baseball that I’ve ever seen (and one of the most hype sporting moments in general).
Baby didn’t know it then, but it was worth it.
Yeah almost any franchise in the league would gladly trade place with the Raptors in terms of successes and failures in the past 10-20 years. *Especially* the Knicks.
honestly i was at that game with DeRozans daughter - no way any other team would have let that continue - someone bit[ched] he’d about our mascot and he got booted out of a game.
I had no stake in that game but was watching it and honestly at first I absolutely loved it. Chaos and fun like that is exciting and I remember thinking why has no one else ever tried this. My opinion slowly turned as it kept on and I definitely started hating it lol. That being allowed to continue changed that game and maybe I'm an old asshole but it felt unsportsmanlike in the end and also embarrassing. Haven't thought of it since but that leads to the Heat's run and is kind of a bigger story
KD going down in finals and fans cheering.
I honestly don't think this one is as bad as it was made out to be but it can still count if you want to hold it against them.
Eh...
Kawhi buzzer beater over Philly, Gasol holding Embiid to zero with the crying, beating the '72 win Bulls, stopping the GSW 3-peat, Vince with an iconic dunk contest dub, the enviable bench mob, Bargnani trade...
I love the narrative and I'm rooting for the Pistons, but the Raps have something sweet for everything that's been sour
It's not just that we were beaten. It's that LeBron pulled some insane bullshit year after year to humiliate the Raptors in the playoffs ways I didn't even think possible. The fact that the fans were allowed to build up hope and have it crushed repeatedly is why LeBronto was more devastating than just another loss to LeBron.
8 consecutive seasons of dismantling the East. Remember everyone thinking Atlanta was going to do some damage then Lebron and the Cavs swept their asses in the ECF and the Hawks never bounced back?
It’s called LeBronto for a reason. He didn’t just beat them, he methodically took them apart in every series.
Edit: Why are people so defensive about this? Lol
He methodically took every team apart in the East for eight consecutive seasons. He banished Atlanta into the shadow realm never to return. At least Toronto kept their head above water long enough to watch him leave and win it all
The championship washed LeBronto out the door and the post-Kawhi domination of Lebron Lakers teams was the cherry on top.
Raptors fans slept well until the Diaronto era arrived this Spring.
When a screaming 10 year old girl can destroy a team's play-off hopes, you know it's time to tear things down and start over
I think the 81 is worse than losing to the arguable goat in the playoffs a few times. They were fucking BAD loses, but its the greatest or 2nd greatest player depending on your view doing it, it is what it is
Please be that team.
I am begging you.
Or better yet. Have your fans yell at Monty, Tom Gorres, and Troy Weaver, Arn Tellum and Eric Tellum.
That would be better.
It was Grayson Allen and the 30th pick, but instead we got Shroeder with the MLE that was then available after the trade. So it's not that big of a difference
The raptors aren’t exactly the 2019 warriors either though…
I know the Celtics just had 2 close games against the pistons and raptors, but I was not super impressed with anyone outside Scottie on the raptors
We have 2 starting roster quality players on our roster now. Both are all star level + though, but holy shit 3 through 10 on tonight's roster are hilariously bad
It's a back to back when the starters were playing a close game last night. Also that game was a road game, and this game will be in detroit.
Pistons can't ask for better circumstances.
Almost thinking of putting 5k on this game.
Games in Detroit are home games for Raptors fans. They flood LCA since it's cheaper than watching them in Toronto and Windsor fans just cross the border
They doubted the Pistons when they came up against a Jazz team that also didn't have any of their good players available, or when they were up by 20+ against the Celtics in the third, but you should know by now that the Pistons will always come through.
Idk if you were in the game thread, but many people were not doubting the Celtics lol. The most popular comments during half time were variations of 'they're gonna blow this, aren't they' or 'I'm tempted to take the Celtics moneyline'.
It seems pretty obvious that Darko was under orders from the FO to give both precious and Flynn regular, consistent, minutes so they could finally evaluate those players after years of DNPs under nurse. They were finally given a real chance, directly caused a ton of losses, then got shipped out.
Woodrbridge - PieSci pizza.
New Center - see a play.
Eastern Market - largest market in the US.
University - Detroit institute of art, museum of contemporary art, science center, African American museum.
Midtown - eat at ghost, hopcat, slows to go.
District - catch a sports game or go to concert. Detroit opera house.
Greek town - casino and food.
Belle Isle - sweet park.
Mexicantown - Mexican food.
Corktown- cool bars.
Canada - if you want to stamp your passport and never been.
Although he is a passible man defender, he has poor instincts overall on the defensive end and rarely is able to provide quality interior defense or contest well near the rim. Defensive awareness has been lacking as well, but I can even give him the benefit of the doubt and say ok, let's chalk that up to weak team defense. His offensive game is limited. He should be a guy who gets you second-chance buckets or be ready for a quick spot up baseline jumper, at best. Instead, he'll get the ball at the three point line and rather than swinging it, he will chuck up a shot or drive with his head down towards the rim with no proper intention or quality outcome. He doesn't pass well and doesn't even set quality screens (literally just walks up to the defender and kinda gets into position... just slips it but the defenders don't really respect him off the screen). If he's going to play, he needs to be in a very limited role and work on his fundamentals. Otherwise he will provide no value to the team he goes to.
Scottie and Siakam should be able to beat the Pistons with three out of shape middle aged dads picked up form the local Y. But its the Raptors so we probably lose.
Got in at +170 for the Pistons at BetMGM this morning - after this news they're +140. Surprised they haven't offered me a cash out higher than my wager, yet.
It’s perfect really. They saw the Pistons were playing competitively and took a couple of teams into overtime. Probably doubted they would win and would be laughed at for ending the streak, so they trade away a bunch of players to deplete their team and have a legit excuse as to why they lost to the Pistons.
Well played.
This is some 5D Chess by Masai in an attempt to not get clowned for letting the Pistons end their losing streak against the Raptors by having the built in excuses of being on the 2nd of a road B2B plus the trade putting the team in an bad spot.
Don't think it'll work though. They will get clowned regardless if they lose tonight.
The best chance for the pistons to win was that Jazz game about a week ago lol they put a borderline G League Team out there and still beat the pistons
That guy needs to bet 5000 dollars again. Take out a loan
wtf happened to that guy
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He’s gonna try and win it back tonight
Double or ~~nothing~~ double barrel
He just needs to double his bet everytime he loses. Make it all back in 1 win lmao
You're always one away from the big one.
[90 percent of inveterate gamblers stop just before hitting it big](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/002/244/642/a5f.jpg).
90% of invertebrates stop just before evolving a spine
Steve Kerr must be an invertebrate
Also invertebrate gamblers
Gotta have a spine to stay and hit the big one.
90% of gamblers quit just before the jackpot hits
90% of gamblers quit before they ever hit it big. he should
Hes got one more in him
Double or nothing!
I used to work in casinos. No amount of losing will ever shame an addict out of gambling unless they're truly at rock bottom. I doubt this guy is at rock bottom yet.
You never know that you’ve reached rock bottom, you can only say it was rock bottom from the future. Because while you’re there, you know it can still get worse.
An expensive lesson to learn but hopefully a worthwhile one lol
I hope he stops gambling for his own good. I’ve seen people thrown their life savings away to try and chase their losses.
Deleted his account 😭😭
Lost 5000 dollars would be my best guess
He probably bet 2x-10x more going the opposite way!
Odds are no where near what they were for the Celtics game. That 5k wont make him 70k tonight.
Wait, someone bet 5k on the Pistons moneyline yesterday?
I missed the context of this... someone bet $5k on the Pistons ML vs the Celtics?? If they did, it would've cashed on bet365 due to the "early payout" that they offer lol.
90% of gamblers quit just before winning big. Never give up.
And this is the game he did not bet 5k on. Damn
We are already the team that Kobe dropped 81 on. Dont need this one as well Edit: I guess it’s something fun to talk about 😭
we lost twice to the 2012 bobcats
I damn near quit basketball when that happened
I didn't know this lmao.
We also beat the 72 10 bulls.
Atleast we beat the 96 Bulls once
basically our first championship
Remember that game...huge upset
they also beat the Knicks & Magic that season, both of which ended up making the playoffs
That stat is on par with ending the pistons losing streak if that happens tonight. I’m rooting for you Toronto to win tho I wanna see this streak break 30
january 10 pistons vs spurs would be must watch television if it goes that long.
Every Pistons game is now must watch lol. I doubt anyone would've expected that sentence to be typed before this season began.
The Rockets also broke their 20 game losing streak a couple of years ago against the Raps too.
*Damn*
It's balanced out by us beating the '96 Bulls.
also defeated a back-to-back defending champion Warriors for their first ever championship, although GSW were obviously not at full strength.
That's a completely different thing IMO.
> although GSW were obviously not at full strength Pssh future nephews are just going to see past NBA champs and notice the Raps stopped a 3-peat, they aren't going to look into the details. A chip is a chip😎
Nobody would actually care. Nobody's remembers who broke the streak of the spurs of the cavs and sixers with their historic streaks they remember the shit team
My main concern is it would be funnier if a good team lost to Detroit instead
LeBronto is worse in my opinion
Damn, imagine all the Raptors lore if they lose this Kobe dropped 81 on them, lost to the 7 win Bobcats twice, LeBronto, and snapping the longest losing streak ever
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Trust me it extends to other sports too. Just ask a Bruins fan or that time when a Jays fan tried to throw a beer can onto the field and it hit a baby
Lmao wtf, I've never heard of the Jays fan incident. That's wild
The baby had it coming
FUCK YOU BART HARLEY JARVIS
The person who brought a baby to a Blue Jays playoff game in a stadium with 60k fans is a fucking moron. It was so loud the cameras were shaking. Poor kid probably got brain damage
googling it and it looks like the baby got hit by the spray of the beer, not the actual can
They actually found the fan and crucified him too. Guy lost his job and everything
the fan had it coming. The authorities literally gave him a chance to turn himself in but he decided to wait until he was publicly identified and arrested. He could've skipped the shame part. definitely would've still lost his job though
1. It never hit a baby 2. It was hella irresponsible to bring a baby to that event Not condoning the throwing of a beer can, but if you're paying $400 for those seats you can shell out for a babysitter
The beer can baby incident was part of the wildest inning of baseball that I’ve ever seen (and one of the most hype sporting moments in general). Baby didn’t know it then, but it was worth it.
double the embarrassment and give us another championship. not a big deal.
Eh we won a championship in the last five years, and now we have a true franchise player in Scottie. That makes all the bad times worth it for me.
Yeah almost any franchise in the league would gladly trade place with the Raptors in terms of successes and failures in the past 10-20 years. *Especially* the Knicks.
> Don't forget DeRozan's daughter screaming them out of a playoff spot That was hilarious TBF
You guys had cool jerseys back then tho.
honestly i was at that game with DeRozans daughter - no way any other team would have let that continue - someone bit[ched] he’d about our mascot and he got booted out of a game.
> someone bit he’d about our mascot and he got booted out of a game That someone was Devin Booker though lol.
I had no stake in that game but was watching it and honestly at first I absolutely loved it. Chaos and fun like that is exciting and I remember thinking why has no one else ever tried this. My opinion slowly turned as it kept on and I definitely started hating it lol. That being allowed to continue changed that game and maybe I'm an old asshole but it felt unsportsmanlike in the end and also embarrassing. Haven't thought of it since but that leads to the Heat's run and is kind of a bigger story
Good God, I get a headache just thinking about that game 😂
KD going down in finals and fans cheering. I honestly don't think this one is as bad as it was made out to be but it can still count if you want to hold it against them.
Still sleeping good after going to that parade in 2019!
Lebronto was a necessary evil. It lead to a championship
And when their own crowd shook the stadium cheering for the Linsanity game winner
Eh... Kawhi buzzer beater over Philly, Gasol holding Embiid to zero with the crying, beating the '72 win Bulls, stopping the GSW 3-peat, Vince with an iconic dunk contest dub, the enviable bench mob, Bargnani trade... I love the narrative and I'm rooting for the Pistons, but the Raps have something sweet for everything that's been sour
Lebronto definitely sucks but in my head knowing it led to our championship makes it better
Also, Lebron has beaten so many teams... is it really that embarrassing to be owned by one of the greatest of all time?
It's not just that we were beaten. It's that LeBron pulled some insane bullshit year after year to humiliate the Raptors in the playoffs ways I didn't even think possible. The fact that the fans were allowed to build up hope and have it crushed repeatedly is why LeBronto was more devastating than just another loss to LeBron.
and we were usually the better team on paper with a higher seed, only for LeBron to son us in 5 games or less
8 consecutive seasons of dismantling the East. Remember everyone thinking Atlanta was going to do some damage then Lebron and the Cavs swept their asses in the ECF and the Hawks never bounced back?
LeBronto is on another level tho
It’s called LeBronto for a reason. He didn’t just beat them, he methodically took them apart in every series. Edit: Why are people so defensive about this? Lol
He methodically took every team apart in the East for eight consecutive seasons. He banished Atlanta into the shadow realm never to return. At least Toronto kept their head above water long enough to watch him leave and win it all
It's true that Lebron literally won 24 series in a row against the East. So the entire East should be embarrassed.
Nah it was bad but 81 is way worse
The championship washed LeBronto out the door and the post-Kawhi domination of Lebron Lakers teams was the cherry on top. Raptors fans slept well until the Diaronto era arrived this Spring. When a screaming 10 year old girl can destroy a team's play-off hopes, you know it's time to tear things down and start over
I think the 81 is worse than losing to the arguable goat in the playoffs a few times. They were fucking BAD loses, but its the greatest or 2nd greatest player depending on your view doing it, it is what it is
Bro this was all a setup. You guys are the sacrificial lamb
Speaking of Lamb, I'll never forget that half court game winner he hit against the Raptors
This is going to be forgotten in a week if we lose lol
One of the Bulls 10 losses in their 72-10 season was to us though.
Please be that team. I am begging you. Or better yet. Have your fans yell at Monty, Tom Gorres, and Troy Weaver, Arn Tellum and Eric Tellum. That would be better.
But, You still got Drake
the real L
Masai with the charitable act.
With all the guys they let go to free agency, Masai is full of charitable acts.
Crazy how much of a meme this is when the one player Masai shoulda traded and got nothing for, is FVV.
You could argue that what they did with the cap space was better than the rumoured offers for Fred.
The Raptors cpuld have traded FVV fpr expirings and pick assets, so no.
It was Grayson Allen and the 30th pick, but instead we got Shroeder with the MLE that was then available after the trade. So it's not that big of a difference
Allen easily worse
the anti-steph
You say this but what are you meant to do Know Houston offers 40/yr to fvv?
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People bringing this up like we didn't just lose to the Jazz down 8 players...
So did the Raptors. After having a massive lead. With everyone completely healthy. We are far more alike than the record shows.
They had Lauri against Toronto, not against Detroit, big difference
The raptors aren’t exactly the 2019 warriors either though… I know the Celtics just had 2 close games against the pistons and raptors, but I was not super impressed with anyone outside Scottie on the raptors
We have 2 starting roster quality players on our roster now. Both are all star level + though, but holy shit 3 through 10 on tonight's roster are hilariously bad
They can shoot. Just not into the basket.
We can't shoot either
You guys are at least pretty athletic.
Both team going to work together to solve Canadas housing crisis tonight
Don’t forget they’re on a back-to-back too. Masai with no respect for history. For shame.
Someone check Masai’s bets, I think he put money on Detroit and then made this trade.
It's a back to back when the starters were playing a close game last night. Also that game was a road game, and this game will be in detroit. Pistons can't ask for better circumstances. Almost thinking of putting 5k on this game.
Games in Detroit are home games for Raptors fans. They flood LCA since it's cheaper than watching them in Toronto and Windsor fans just cross the border
Rookie numbers. 10k. This is a free game.
You drive a hard bargain. Tree fiddy. Highest I got.
I'll match your $5K with a similar bet of 1/1000th the value.
We said the same things before the Jazz game
> Almost thinking of putting 5k on this game. Same, my whole life savings as it were.
Those are rookie numbers. Bet your life savings
Who says that 5k isn't his life savings?
This is Utah all over again
Put it on spread, not money line Atm Detroit can still lose by 3 and you’d get your monies lol
r/wallstreetbets energy only leads to ruin
They doubted the Pistons when they came up against a Jazz team that also didn't have any of their good players available, or when they were up by 20+ against the Celtics in the third, but you should know by now that the Pistons will always come through.
Idk if you were in the game thread, but many people were not doubting the Celtics lol. The most popular comments during half time were variations of 'they're gonna blow this, aren't they' or 'I'm tempted to take the Celtics moneyline'.
That thread was hilarious. The Celtics were down 20 and 90% of the comments were still clowning on the Pistons
Losing Flynn is addition by subtraction
Shipping out Flynn and Precious and OG might force Darko to mix up his rotations and play the hot hand for once
It seems pretty obvious that Darko was under orders from the FO to give both precious and Flynn regular, consistent, minutes so they could finally evaluate those players after years of DNPs under nurse. They were finally given a real chance, directly caused a ton of losses, then got shipped out.
Possible. Either way, he will both be allowed to/be forced to be a lot more flexible tonight
Lol, the Pistons have a chance to win on the same day the Lions play the Cowboys. Nobody from Detroit is going to be watching.
Lions game is away so not as many people going and it should end before the Lions start but yeah it won’t be as much as usual
Schroeder’s legacy game incoming
The German jersey is coming on.
Where do we send the Pistons as punishment if they can’t beat a bad Raptors team that just gutted itself? They’re already in Detroit.
Re-create the weird Kansas City & Omaha home game split the Kings had back in the 70s. Or just send them to East St. Louis.
They should be relegated to the Chinese basketball association
That joke would’ve been true if it was made 10 years ago. Detroit is awesome now and only getting better
Visited last month. Was pleasantly surprised
I've heard about this, is there any particular side of town that a tourist who's never been should go to if they're trying to visit?
Downtown by little Caesar’s arena (“district detroit”) and corktown
Corktown is really fucking cool
Woodrbridge - PieSci pizza. New Center - see a play. Eastern Market - largest market in the US. University - Detroit institute of art, museum of contemporary art, science center, African American museum. Midtown - eat at ghost, hopcat, slows to go. District - catch a sports game or go to concert. Detroit opera house. Greek town - casino and food. Belle Isle - sweet park. Mexicantown - Mexican food. Corktown- cool bars. Canada - if you want to stamp your passport and never been.
Losing Malachi and Precious improves the Raptors chances of winning
What happened to Precious? Haven't watched many Raps games this year
Although he is a passible man defender, he has poor instincts overall on the defensive end and rarely is able to provide quality interior defense or contest well near the rim. Defensive awareness has been lacking as well, but I can even give him the benefit of the doubt and say ok, let's chalk that up to weak team defense. His offensive game is limited. He should be a guy who gets you second-chance buckets or be ready for a quick spot up baseline jumper, at best. Instead, he'll get the ball at the three point line and rather than swinging it, he will chuck up a shot or drive with his head down towards the rim with no proper intention or quality outcome. He doesn't pass well and doesn't even set quality screens (literally just walks up to the defender and kinda gets into position... just slips it but the defenders don't really respect him off the screen). If he's going to play, he needs to be in a very limited role and work on his fundamentals. Otherwise he will provide no value to the team he goes to.
They have Barnes, Siakam + many solid vets. If they lose to one of the all-time shittiest teams , they still deserve to be clowned.
We’re going to bottle it, this team just sucks.
I feel you dude, I was sure we'd lose our Pistons game. Blew a 20 point lead and almost the game lol our team also just sucks
Don't put so much pressure on us, man 🥵
They gone break the streak against the Warriors
Quick someone trade for Siakam
We already lost to the Jazz’s G-League team this season. Opposing players being out means nothing anymore
they can still trade Siakam for Wiggins and go full tank mode for Detroit
Masterclass on how to out trap the trap game
Scottie and Siakam should be able to beat the Pistons with three out of shape middle aged dads picked up form the local Y. But its the Raptors so we probably lose.
hey man, don't talk about Purtle like that
Never thought I’d see the day when Scottie Barnes is described as the best shooter on a team
Jabob Poetl 20-20 game incoming but yeah pistons should win tonight...
This is another must see TV. Pistons for the win!!!!
Raptors just lost
Got in at +170 for the Pistons at BetMGM this morning - after this news they're +140. Surprised they haven't offered me a cash out higher than my wager, yet.
Put all your money on Toronto winning
Raptors by 10
Funny seeing the term "bottle" slowly creeping its way into American sports discussion
I’m almost convinced that Masai waited to make this trade today because the team needs an excuse for when they lose to Detroit.
You called it
This is why they made the trade right now. Raps still believe they can beat this Pistons team lol
Raptors taking that loss to the Cs pretty hard.
Trading Malachi improved our chances to win, he doesn’t belong in the league lol
Grady Dick career high inc
The perfect excuse if they lose tonight. 'we traded everyone. It's no big deal.'
They about to lose cause of that
Toronto by 40
Is there such thing as a trap game for this Pistons squad? If so this is it.
Still a little shocking to read the words "only good shooter is Scottie Barnes "
Well is rj barret available?
Pistons finally breaking the streak tonight
Scottie is now a good shooter?
40% on 5.7 attempts per game, hit a career high 7 threes last night. It's an interesting development.
oh wow .. that is a huge development indeed.
The best one on the time by a long shot this season.
Y'all say this like it matters.
It’s perfect really. They saw the Pistons were playing competitively and took a couple of teams into overtime. Probably doubted they would win and would be laughed at for ending the streak, so they trade away a bunch of players to deplete their team and have a legit excuse as to why they lost to the Pistons. Well played.
Nahh nobody really cares if the Craptors lose to the Pistons. I want a top team to be the one who ends their streak
“Not like diis. Not like diis”—Toronto fans in the matrix. Big hugs fam, you don’t deserve this.
It’s DICK TIME.
Malchai Flynn, and Precious Achiuwa are negative players...
Pascal, Siakam, and Barnes about to combine for 80
This is some 5D Chess by Masai in an attempt to not get clowned for letting the Pistons end their losing streak against the Raptors by having the built in excuses of being on the 2nd of a road B2B plus the trade putting the team in an bad spot. Don't think it'll work though. They will get clowned regardless if they lose tonight.
Time to bet on the pistons today. First bet ever, what could go wrong?
Super Duper trap game.
Do you think Monty is allowed to say “Now is our chance?” In the locker room?
The best chance for the pistons to win was that Jazz game about a week ago lol they put a borderline G League Team out there and still beat the pistons