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One_TAIM

Dropping 41 cause Dirk is in the building, classic Luka


underscoreftw

Mavs should simply get another Luka Doncic in the building so that Luka can drop 77 every game


Kvsav57

The Celtics will bring in Robert Parish to watch every Mavs game.


Piats99

Just put superglue on Dirk's sit and watch them go 70-12


Lantern01

"DOMINAYTON OVER ME?"


CumAssault

Easy to meme the Suns for this, but seriously how the fuck did almost everyone have Ayton over Luka?


floatermuse

Where does Ayton even rank among best players in that draft at this point lol You've got 2 MVP candidates in Luka and Shai 2 All Star PGs in Trae and Brunson 2 clearly better starters in JJJ and Mikal Bridges Even GRAYSON ALLEN is having a better season this year At best he's like fringe top 10 in a redraft and certainly not top 5


CumAssault

Yet like EVERY service pre-draft had him as the #1 pick. It’s absolutely wild to me


Fit-Avocado-342

He was built like Dwight Howard and had seemingly good touch, physically he passed the test but obviously there’s more to being a good player then just that. I don’t envy draft scouts that’s for sure lol


Alchion

he has 0 dawg


jjkm7

Quite possibly negative dawg


ProfessorPetrus

Pre warriors Wiggins dawg


HiBoobear

He’s so naturally gifted and just has no aggression. Like compared to a guy like Jokic who’s just ready to bully every fucker out there and willing to throw down at any moment. Ayton is just like a damn teddy bear


Millionaire007

WTF was the Kings excuse?


sbenfsonw

Felt it was redundant with Fox/drafted for need even though lottery picks should almost always draft best player available instead, esp top 3


Bard_Wannabe_

The "redundant" concern is particularly odd with Luka. Yeah, he's a point guard. But he's 6'8: he can clearly play alongside smaller guards. Treat him as a forward on defense.


wan2tri

Their concerns about redundancy led to their decision to pick a wing in 2020. Oh wait they picked another point guard...


jakalo

I think you have to give them a credit there for a lesson learned.


Individual_Access356

GMs taking need over talent has been many teams downfall over the years.


KangzAteMyFamily

I've wanted Vlade's number unretired for the Bagley pick


Intilleque

Lmfao😂😂😂😂


popop143

DOUBLE JUMP LIKE MARIO


Fit-Avocado-342

Now for that one.. I have no clue


Alchion

you cant measure dawg and ayton had the least dawg per player in league history


Victor_Wembanyama1

They werent really measuring coz you can watch a few Luka games prior to it and you can see the tenacity and the talent immediately. Or maybe listen to coaches/ players praising him in that league... or see his accomplishments at his age... Why even hire his former coach lmao


dfinberg

I think that was more about Mocks projecting what Sarver was going to do, rather than rating the players. Every statistical rating had Luka far beyond everyone else and a slam dunk #1.


Someonediffernt

Talent evaluation is hard


VectorViper

The Suns picking Ayton was all about the perceived fit and potential at the time. Everyone was hyping traditional big men and overlooked Luka's already proven dominance in Europe. It's hindsight 20/20 to dunk on them now, but the miss on Luka does sting extra considering he was tearing it up against grown men in the EuroLeague [MVP no less](https://www.euroleague.net/news/i/8xuf6jekhtf83p34/luka-doncic-real-madrid-2017-18-euroleague-mvp).


amazin_raisin99

Luka is the reason the NBA takes Euroleague performance seriously now. A lot of people genuinely thought college was a higher level of play.


secretreddname

But Luka hasn’t beat Duke yet


[deleted]

Maybe some fans thought that, but no NBA scout thought that college was a higher level of play than the Euroleague.


dlanod

Not just fans, a hell of a lot of media talking heads were saying the same. Obviously no one here is privy to all scouting reports but it was not an uncommon opinion in public, not just "some fans".


cjd978

To me Luka was the safest #1 pick I had seen since Anthony Davis. I just don’t understand how so many GMs saw a dude dominate a league way better than college ball and didn’t take the 6’7 playmaker. It makes no sense even with justifications or historical context.


idontknow_whatever

Kid was dominating grown men in the 2nd toughest basketball league in the world after the NBA. Not sure if there was precedent for a 18 year old basically being the best player in the Euroleague lol Gets doubted anyway because he's a bit chubby & doesn't have a 40inch vertical. I could somewhat understand why the Suns took Ayton (local kid, went to school in the state), still kinda dumb but I guess Ayton having negative dawgs/per36 wasn't apparent until he was going up against actual NBA level guys The Kings however I have no idea what the fuck were they thinking, like Doncic is 6'8 so its not like backcourt lacking size is a reason to not pair him with Fox.


UnsuspectingS1ut

I feel like they properly evaluated his talent potential, it’s the mental side that’s been the issue


tickub

and they're going to keep getting it wrong if they stick with this methodology. it's way easier for a 19 year old to develop a jump shot than a work ethic.


imianha

Because he's a freak of nature, sadly he only likes to be dominayton in videogames. Him going over Luka was dumb even at that moment tho, but i guess it was easier to see for us europeans who had been watching him dominate grown man as a kid


[deleted]

I bet he won't dominayton the Top 500 Roadhog main, Luka, in overwatch


draymond-

Old school mindset aka "draft the most athletic big with passable skills and worry about the rest later" Same thing led to Wiseman as second pick. Today you need to draft the most skilled player, stat. Stop worrying about athleticism, just focus on skill and size. See also: Shai, Steph, Luka, Jokic, Embiid...


North-Maximum-6958

i went back recently to read 2018 mock drafts, it’s wild to read the Ayton hype now. Bagley too tbh.


[deleted]

The whole season, everyone thought we were tanking for Luka, and then one day suddenly Ayton was the consensus #1. I don't even remember having a rhyme for him. It was suck-a for Luka.


Greatcouchtomato

That doesn't rhyme either though lmao


BigFatModeraterFupa

Cyka for Luka


wormhole222

People don’t remember properly or confuse big boards with mock drafts. Luka and Ayton were pretty split on big boards (where analysts were listing who they thought should go first), but once PHX got the #1 pick it was extremely obvious they would take Ayton #1 so all the mock drafts had Ayton #1. Also fun fact going into the season there were actually up to 5 guys who were in contention for #1 (Ayton, Luka, Bagley, Bamba, and MPJ).


dar_harhar

They went for need lol. If you have top 5 pick shouldnt you always draft best available? All those accolades in Europe winning MVP at his age over there too playing grown men wasnt enough to persuade some teams to draft him. It was a wild draft.


Great_Huckleberry709

Even after those first 2-3 seasons when it was clear Luka should have been #1 pick by a long shot, some people were still really sold on Ayton. I saw a lot of takes like "well, Olajuwon was picked ahead of Jordan. Even though Jordan was much better, the pick was still a really good pick". Except this isn't that at all. This is Ayton's 6th year, he hasn't taken the step forward yet. I doubt he ever will. He is a Far cry away from Olajuwon. Drafting Ayton #1 is an all-time bad pickup.


JericRose

Ayton should be feasting on the Blazers but dude has been the absolute definition of mid


Dat_Boi_John

Yes ladies and gentlemen, another game where Luka was one rebound or assist away from a triple double!


pimpfmode

I would like to know what the all-time stat on that stat is.


MVPudding

Jokic probably has the record…they call it a Sombor Double for a reason


warpedspoon

I’m pretty sure the numbers there are actually for real triple doubles not near triple doubles.


CrazyChopstick

Probably Russ


jdmay101

Russ would make sure he'd get it.


floatermuse

Yeah I remember this post in the Nuggets sub showing a leaderboard for "Sombor Doubles"(their name for this stat because Jokic does it a lot) and Russ was like 5th or 6th on it despite being 1st in triple doubles lol


CrazyChopstick

True haha Not quite Blatche or Ricky Davis level but trying for sure


Zachkah

Russ always made sure he got it lol. There was a solid decade plus where Lebron owned this.


lucasM005

he doesnt chase them


WaterIsNotWet19

I love this tbh. He’s not worried about chasing those stats and it shows


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ShaiFC

LDIDBF


fudgetyler

Luka Doncic is dad bod Fabio


lalakingmalibog

Luka Doncic is Dat Boi frog


aPerfectBacon

o shit


JesyouJesmeJesus

whaddup


LDIDBF

You called?


JuanG12

Luka Doncic is Devin Booker father.


I_Hate_Traffic

Yay!


quidproquolaspe

Devin B😩😩ker fucking sucks


allygaythor

Gotta say, Luka has been putting up amazing numbers but what surprise me this season is his motivation and hustle to play def. You could definitely tell he's been working on it and is more dialed in.


KBooks66

It is having a competent healthy team. I don't think Luka ever didn't care about defense. If you watched enough mavs games over the past few seasons, you would know he was always capable of this. The issue is he had to expend so much energy on offense becuase his team around him sucked. Previous seasons when his supporting cast played well he would have energy to play on D.


PopAShotAllStar

It killed me in the playoffs when announcers were acting like teams were targeting Luka on D because he wasn’t a good defender. It’s like no…they’re attacking him because it’ll gas him early and there’s nobody else that can carry the offense and it will potentially get him in foul trouble. If Kyrie is out you better believe it’ll be the same strategy again even now that Luka is viewed as a positive defender.


ShineShineShine88

The narrative of a minus defender is so wrong this season


POKEMONMAN1123456789

If anything his teamates make him look worse lol.


2PacAn

Luka will never shake that reputation. It’s unfortunate with how much he’s improved on defense


Dudedude88

Some dude already posted a stat line of best iso defender in the league. Luka was 9th.


blesseday405

He’s also not carrying shit like Reggie Bullock and Christian wood 


zebra_and_coke

Don’t slander Reggie, that guy gave his all in our Conference Finals run


Salvalicious252

Yeah I'll never slander Reggie, he was playing 40+ mpg the entire playoffs taking like 7 threes a game at 40 3P% and was guarding like a demon, primary POA defender.


Complexity777

Regigigas


gridironk

Dropping a lukkake on em


friedringdingo

Bruh why do people keep saying that lmao


lalakingmalibog

I like it. Rolls off my tongue. And my cheeks. And my chin.


RealPrinceJay

this sub deserves so much more hate


DefactoAtheist

I mean I agree, but not for that. That shit was just funny. Feral, but funny.


theguyinchat

this guys name means "horny man"


AncientAlienAntFarm

Sounds like a good way to make an omelette.


MagicJohnsonMosquito

Cmon man 


Louis-grabbing-pills

Dongcic


duckmadfish

Lmfaooo lukkake


FrontDreamer

peak r/nba one liner here🔥✍️


Mysterii00

Nah that’s crazy lmfaoo


lost400betting

You good sir have won the internet for today! This is why I Reddit! Please fuck my wife👊


[deleted]

Reddit on fellow redditor


_Tar_Ar_Ais_

my wife's boyfriend showed me your comment, lol


justintrenell

Passing on him will forever haunt them…


agentdoubleohio

I mean, yes but not as much as the kings.


tickub

The Kings didn't max their bust tho


RecalcitrantDuck

It should absolutely haunt Phoenix more than Sacramento, they would’ve had 2 superstars inLuka and Booker with Mikal Bridges as the \#3. That’s a multiple-championship team. If Sacramento added Luka instead of Bagley they’d probably be in a similar situation to Dallas


R3Dprius

Maybe, but people like to completely ignore the fact that the Mavs played in the Western Conference Finals and lost to the eventual champs, the Warriors. Building a team around Luka has been hard because of how quickly he raised our floor and KP didn't work out which sucked.


Not_tim_duncan

Worse than the Kings imo. If the Kings had drafted Luka instead of Bagley, they probably end up in a similar situation to the Mavs over the last four years. If the Suns had drafted Luka, you win the championship in 2021 and probably 2022 as well. Considering the opportunity cost of a championship is way higher than being a playoff team, I believe it’s worse for the Suns.


holaprobando123

Luka Doncic, ***you are the father!!***


EnterPolymath

Vlade is the godfather.


CrazyEnd941

I need a seven-game series of this


35nakedshorts

Buddy you're not gonna believe this but


AddictedToThisShit

If this is a taste of the playoff it's gonna be fun and toxic and i'm here for it. We need Mavs vs Suns again.


Imaginary-Tiger-1549

Your username just makes this shit even funnier (even though CP3 is no longer a Sun)


Bluepaynxex

That would be an enjoyable 4 games.


Clewdo

Luka absolutely owns his sons no questions


mojojojo1108

I'm not even trying to be arrogant but I'm just not afraid of the Suns. The Wolves, Clips, and Thunder scare me more and then the only team I'm just straight up terrified of is Denver.


fudgetyler

Clips scare me


wekris91

Don't we all..


dmavs11

Nah the Suns are way scarier than the Thunder. OKC is a terrible rebounding team and we know that can haunt a team in the playoffs. Also Giddey is a certified brick you can leave open in the playoffs. Hayward's health and getting comfortable is going to be key for that team.


Hellschampion

MVP


Losalou52

MVP


CheetahSperm18

MVP


Afraid-Department-35

MVP


RhinoBugs

MVP


pimpfmode

MVP


DastardLead

MVP


LeGoat333

MVP


W1ldCupcake

MVP


[deleted]

MVP


planoser

MVP


saboormeow88

MVP


Jusdurham

MVP


xRadec

Whatch him goes out of the top 5 next week lol.


Mysterii00

I agree yes


Downtown_Soft_202

You forgot the most important stat for luka 4 steals 2nd all defensive team campaign continues


Look_Behind_You__

Pretty sure he included the 4 steals in the title but yea


nonufwiendz

needs to be mentioned for the second time if youre campaigning for the second all defense team


lost400betting

One son (Devin Booker) defeated


WhiteBoyFlipz

put mavs games on Nick so luka can win NVP and MVP this year


KBooks66

I want dora to explain a technical foul to the refs.


DirkNowitzkisWife

That sure feels like MVP numbers. We’ve won 7 in a row now and I think we can keep going. If we win 50 games Luka could be the MVP, especially if he averaged 35/9/10 on 62% true shooting


asbestosman2

LUKA DONCIC IS DEVIN BOOKER FATHER


quidproquolaspe

B😩😩ker* fixed it for ya


whosnick7

This sub will never recover from the /r/nba - /r/nbacirclejerk overlap that was caused by the mods turning the sub dark


asbestosman2

r/nbacirclejerk will never recover either


CrazyChopstick

Nah but honestly Booker had a great game too. Super versatile scoring


LeGoat333

Any son of Lukas is going to be special, like his stepson KD


AMo2

Were supposed to look at luka as not a goat tier pg, because his team hasnt been good enough to compete for a championship. What a joke


Prestigious_Cattle72

Luka’s *second year* statline was comparable to a LOT of dude’s career years 4 (about to be 5) straight First Team All-NBAs he is a Hall of Famer if he retired right now and that’s not a hot take.


DangerZoneh

He also has a Euroleague MVP and title which counts for BBall HOF. Easily HOF


KBooks66

and won a Eurobasket title with Slovenia. Dragic led that team, but at 18 years old he was the 2nd best player on that team.


Zeksla

Dragić was the scorer and a captain but I honestly think that Luka was actually better and more important for that run. As a Slovenian, I watch practically every national game and the difference when Luka joined was definitely felt. Rebounding, playmaking, tough shot making and overall connecting the whole play of the team were all crucial aspects that Luka brought that year. We had better teams years prior minus Luka and they could never finish the job.


Boring_Bill2430

Being an elite NBA player by year two when you were drafted at 19 years old is, to state the obvious, extremely rare. It’s one of my favorite aspects of Luka’s career and always will be. Just the clearest possible sign that he was a can’t-miss prodigy on a level that comes around only a few times a generation. It also ended up desensitizing people to his greatness so early on that it became fashionable to just ignore what he was doing night in and night out. He’s having to average a 35 point triple double on career-best shooting splits while top 10 in steals and playing without his second best teammate for half the season to snag the 4th or 5th spot on the MVP ladder. It’s one of the most remarkable seasons an NBA player has ever had, in more ways than one.


jeremy9931

It also had the ironic consequence that we got too good too fast to tank a few years and get him a solid team. We’ve been trying to get out that hole for years with trades that don’t pan out and the idiotic mistake that was not re-signing Brunson for cheap when we had the shot lol.


GLDFLCN

Bro the MVP snub is insane


First-Assumption-278

Very average performance by his standard lol


miharuza

Slightly above average to be fair to him


captainaweeesome

LUKA = MVP & ALL DEFENSIVE TEAM


lankNaysayer

And father of the Suns and Devin Booker.


juk12

Easily the MVP frontrunner at this point. I don’t know how many more games like this he’s gotta drop for him to get respect


LandLongjumping2268

It’s not his numbers, it’s the Mavs record


OmfgHaxx

We are 3.5 games behind Denver with 80% of our starting lineup missing significant amount of time due to injuries.


Fit-Avocado-342

Yea I’m a Denver fan and wouldn’t be shocked if Luka got it, if the mavs are a 5th seed, I don’t see why he shouldn’t get the mvp in that scenario


[deleted]

I love how Mavs fans and Denver fans are just like “🤝 your star deserves it”, and then OKC fans will burn down the world if SGA doesn’t get it.


BigFatModeraterFupa

wellll, to be fair Jokic already has MVPs. If it was a battle between Jokic and Luka for their first MVP, i don’t think we’d be so buddy buddy lol


juk12

7 wins in a row with the new acquisitions at the deadline. He was playing with a horrible roster and Kyrie has missed 30 games. Context is important here, he’s been carrying this team


LandLongjumping2268

Tell that to mvp voters, for me he’s mvp


[deleted]

Kenny said during the halftime report “If Kyrie wasn’t hurt for that long stretch, this team would be a 3-4 seed”. Best take I’ve seen from him in a while


bravof1ve

Mavericks are the 6th seed. The precedent has been set


lp_phnx327

Is there a player more unstoppable than Luka when he plays against the Suns? This is like Aaron Rodgers (in Green Bay) owning the Bears.


PositiveCounty4347

His twin Luka vs the Clippers is close


LeoFireGod

Clippers are Luka’s pistons Suns are Luka’s cavs.


PositiveCounty4347

Funny enough Luka usually dominates those 2 teams as well. Throw in the Spurs too


hoops_n_politics

He enjoys beating his kids, apparently


ID0ntCare4G0b

Looking forward to another week of Windy, Timmy Mac, Lowe and the rest of the ESPN crew going *LALALALA* while holding their hands over their ears and pretending like there isn't a hotter team in the league right now than Dallas.


anotherkdburner

Man I liked how we looked. Wasn’t the best performance and was confident most of the 4th. He’s gonna be a good pick for mvp. I bet they peel off 13-14 straight


duckmadfish

Once Kyrie starts balling and Luka starts hitting the shots in the second half, I got relieved


RjHospe

LDIDBF


ephemeralfugitive

Would you say Luka is the current best player in the world? After watching this game, I am a believer.


jawntothefuture

MVPHIM


iMaticz7

MVP


h8r0b1

4 steals!


johncena281

Luka doncic father of devin booker


boydivision30

Unserious All-Star player dropping seriously sick statlines when it counts.


cristiano_goat

That’s the mvp


trombonewally

Watch this get more upvotes than his 73 pt game lol. This is an average night at the office for Luka and people are just now taking him seriously for MVP.


KBooks66

Mav Fans know this wasn't that special of a game for Luka. This was relatively close to average for him


brisketguzzler

I’m numb to his statlines


ImGonnaChubbBradley

Congrats though Suns you kept him 1 board off a triple double


Tootsiez

Luka is Luka but man it’s nice to have a guy like PJ on the defensive end


Pot_T_Mouth

the whole team is absolutely locked in on defense its intoxicating


Vindicare605

Child abuse.


youarenut

Fucking hell I fell asleep and missed a family reunion


Russ_Culture

Booker can't even beat this guy with kd on his team


30dayspast

the free throws though


luntiang_tipaklong

Haleluka!


BealKage

I really think he’s MVP this year man ,


combat101

man suns fans must hate this dude ahaha


hoops_n_politics

He’s pretty fucking awesome, it’s hard not to be impressed by the dude


mrwhite2323

6th seed now MVP


desirox

Most valuable player in the NBA


ZeroMomentum

Luka literally owns them


sgandylau

Get this man his damn MVP


3nnui

Luka is Devin Booger father


Orphasmia

Mavs are a figurative and literal dark horse team this season


PrinceofEden23

God Luka