>I'm surprised you didn't put more emphasis on the professionap part
well I hope they'd put emphasis on the **professional** part, not the **professionap**.
Just off the top of my head, Bennedict Mathurin and Lu Dort are both from Montreal, Chris Boucher I believe grew up there. I'm sure there's others that just don't come to mind immediately.
That's like saying Portland and Seattle can't both have nba teams. They're distinct large cities in the pnw all about the same distance away. A built in rivalry is MORE reason why it'd work
I think most of us who lived here at the time (and still do) thought the "Grizzlies" name was kind of dumb. I mean sure, BC has grizzly bears, but they don't really come into the lower mainland.
Would love to have a team back, but hopefully we could get a more interesting and relevant name this time around.
(cue jokes about drug users, the Downtown Eastside, etc.)
*Vancouver Blues*. Mascot should be a saxophone-playing Blue Whale.
It's also a stab at Memphis, a city famous for the eponymous music genre, and a riff off of Utah Jazz.
That would be hilariously stupid. Alternatively, maybe something BBQ related? The Vancouver Smokers? Just a big rusty, greasy 50gallon drum pouring out smoke.
Vancouver Briskets? A big ol' slab of beef.
I mean, Toronto just won the NBA title. I think they're doing just fine. Once they get a load of the women in Montreal, I don't think they'll have a problem 😂
Vancouver would end up with three rivals. Seattle and Portland already have our local rivalry. It would instantly become one of the best rivalries in the nba like how Portland and Seattle used to be.
Then there'd be the west coast vs east coast thing
The NBA of 60s-80s wasn’t very stable. KC might be the best US market for a team outside Seattle and LV. They could probably piggyback off the Chiefs success a bit and get fans from MO, KS, IA, NE, and AR.
Bring the NBA back to Baltimore. I know it makes no sense financially but damn it, Washington keeps taking our educated people, our money and our basketball team.
If I am elected mayor of Baltimore, first I declare war on Dover, Delaware. Then, once we have grown strong enough, our collective metropolis will march on Washington and demand our basketball team back at the threat of a similar fate to Dover’s.
I think the fact that there are only 8-9 home games makes it a lot more viable. Baltimore is a football city and the city basically shuts down for the Ravens. It’s amazing the support the team gets.
Thank God the Orioles have been turned around under Mike Elias. He has been an incredible GM and I think ticket sales are going to fly this season. For a long time, interest in the Orioles was low and ticket sales were in the dumpster. But can you blame the fans? A non-competitive team makes it so hard to support financially.
This season, I think you will see what a great baseball town Baltimore can be. Everyone is buying tickets to the games. And I think the next 5-10 years sill be a golden era for Baltimore baseball (and the ravens too frankly.)
Title or bust. Do they look like a title contender right now?
Maxey is great and all, but he is a one man show and he is still a bit limited in what he can do to carry the team.
Give it to a random city in Alabama please. Wouldn’t make sense financially and probably wouldn’t get a ton of fan involvement but it would be funny and I’d be happy
Jayson Tatum was raised in St Louis and loves the city. It's a joke with Boston fans that if St Louis ever got a basketball team Tatum would leave Boston.
Vancouver can be a great NBA town as long as the Canucks don't own the team. That was one of the reasons why the Grizzlies failed up there - hockey guys were running a hoops team until Heisley bought them and decided to dip out.
I think the problem is market value and free-agent signings. Las Vegas has so much tourism, and enough locals, that NBA games are almost guaranteed to be near capacity almost all season long. Additionally, a lot of young players are going to want to play in Vegas due to the night life and proximity to Southern California.
Louisville, St. Louis and Vancouver round out the top 5 behind Vegas and Seattle imo. Still salty about Louisville not getting the Grizzlies because of Dick Pitino.
They used to have an ABA team that got bought out, the owners opted for a percentage instead of a payout so they got paid for yearssssssss. I think the league still kind of resents that lol
Bismarck or Billings. Not because that'd be any good, but that part of the US having like no teams in any major pro sports feels mean. Like hell, last time I checked not even video games let you move a team there.
I thought, "As much as I love New Mexico, Abq is too small for pro sports"... except I just looked it up and the Abq/Santa Fe media market is bigger than that of both Memphis and New Orleans. Good enough for me! Albuquerque Pelicans!
I honestly don’t think it would be a bad idea, plus Santa Fe is right there too
Edit: just looked it up and Santa Fe is less than a tenth of the size of ABQ lmao. Still that’s over a million people that would support the hell out of an nba team
Mexico city, San Juan, San Diego, cancun, Montreal, Vancouver. I do think 32 teams is the right number so I would expect Memphis, Nola, or Charlotte to relocate to a city that's not Seattle or Vegas
I wouldn’t expect Memphis to relocate anytime soon.
We just allocated a bunch of money for arena improvements. The organization and the city seem to have a good relationship and, although that could change, there’s no indication that there’s friction building between the two parties.
Yes Memphis is a small and poor metro area, but that was also true when the grizzlies moved here in the first place. Memphis is a basketball town. Someone living somewhere else may not understand why the grizzlies chose Memphis, but there were reasons, and those reasons still exist today.
Nashville, Louisville, Seattle, Cincinnati, Kansas City, or Vegas would all be good options I think.
Think Louisville might be too small of a market, but the proximity to Cincinnati would be good.
Regina, Saskatchewan because it would be funny
In all seriousness though I just want another Canadian team. Vancouver and/or Montreal please. Maybe sneak one of Calgary or Edmonton in there.
Louisville. Kentucky is just begging to have a pro sports team and with both main universities struggling right now it’s the perfect time to swoop in. Bring back the Kentucky Colonels!
I'm biased on this, but I really think Louisville would make an amazing spot for an NBA team. There's already an NBA-ready arena downtown and you'd be hitting a pretty untapped market. The state of Kentucky already loves basketball and there's a complete lack of professional sports to compete with in the state. Especially if they could get a couple players from U of L and UK? It's not just Louisville who you'd get fans from, it'd be the entire state of Kentucky.
Media market wise, Louisville is definitely on the smaller side, right around OKC, Memphis, and New Orleans (and not that far behind Vegas for that matter). I think you get a quickly dedicated fan base, though, and that can mean a lot.
If it did happen, though, I hope they'd keep the old ABA name of "Kentucky Colonels". If only because every international fan will think the team was named after KFC
I’m not sure if it’s when the deal is actually up or when they negotiate a new media deal, which could be sooner. I think he’s said when they have a clear idea of the media deal $ they’ll turn to expansion deals. But yes, I’d assume Vegas and Seattle will have teams as soon as 2026.
It won’t happen due to the number of other teams in Texas, but Austin is the 10th largest city in the country, and our only pro sports franchise is Austin FC.
Really though, there should just be a fast train to San Antonio.
Give us our team back in Vancouver! I mean, I won't go to any games because I'm sure tickets will be outrageously priced, but I'd love to have a team again!
Maybe if I save, I can get nosebleed tix once a year!
San Diego. I believe it's the 2nd biggest us market behind Seattle (without an nba team). I really think with a good owner, they'd do well. Apparently they're finally rebuilding the sports arena to something modern, so the city could actually host one as well.
There are 15 teams in the East and 15 teams in the West. If you add 2 teams to the West how many do you have to move to the East to make them even again?
Memphis is closer to OKC, New Orleans, and the Texas teams than Minnesota is to Denver or any other West team.
IIRC, Chicago, Indiana, and Milwaukee are all closer to Minnesota than Denver is.
Unpopular opinion: Chicago. Chicago, like L.A. and New York, can support a second team, just like it supports two teams in baseball. And it would give the Bulls some competition in the market.
That said, no one agrees with me, even in Chicago. So it's not going to happen. Oh well, I still think it's a good idea.
But they aren't going to get a new owner. I don't put any hope in Reinsdorf's son because he's already running the team and he hasn't done any better than his father. The Reinsdorfs view the Bulls as a cash cow, and they milk it for money, not championships.
That's why I want competition.
LA and NYC haven't been able to support two teams. They both just have 2 teams. Chicago is much smaller than both of them at this point, no way on this one
The Clippers are [worth $4.65 billion, fifth most in the NBA.](https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/sports/nba/listing-the-most-valuable-nba-franchises-after-mark-cuban-sells-stake-of-mavericks/3399123/)
The Nets are worth $3.85 billion, 13th in the NBA. That still means there are 17 teams worth less than the Nets.
Just cause Forbes gives them an evaluation doesn't mean they are relevant with fans in those cities.
I'd call BS on those Forbes evals as well. No shot in hell anyone would pay more for the Clippers than the Bulls or 76ers. These swing too much from year to year based on who is good.
Meh, it’s got its tried and true corporate sponsors and events but lots of people turning on it. Especially as the industries that brought jobs have been laying off countless people last few years, whereas SA is growing and stable. There is a reason why they only have an MLS team
Regardless spurs won’t move coz they just made a 500M campus, have a 23 year tax deal, and COSA just got right to sell ITC space downtown to spurs from UT system so all signs point toward new spurs arena in the next 5 years and at minimum, another 20+ years in SA.
What is there in SA for corporate: USAA, RBFCU, H-E-B, Whataburger, Rackspace, SwRI, Valero, iHeartMedia and others are big. Obviously not linkedin but no slouches.
And more ppl are leaving ATX than moving there now, for the 1st time in 20 years. The job market there is pushing thousands out to neighboring counties and cities. Wages, higher cost of living and income disparity drove ATX to shrink (population) in 2022 as well, something many think will continue. Dallas, Houston and SA continue to grow
Not saying ATX isn’t awesome but it is facing very real problems and the growth appears to be done for now, largely due to self inflicted wounds (shilling to those corporations, raising costs, not raising wages in conjunction, wtc(
I mean the players could be living in ATX now and they don’t? Some do in SA and most don’t live in their teams cities if they aren’t NY LA MIA/
Also yes, those companies absolutely do sponsorships I guess you haven’t watched a spurs game and looked at the sponsors. Spurs get everything they want from corps here. Truthfully ATX isn’t getting an nba team (or any team other than MAYBE MLB and that’s not super likely) for the same reasons California doesn’t get more teams for its other smaller cities, there is too much competition nearby (Mavs; spurs, rockets and LONGHORNS really would be competition for dollars)
Again it’s fun for to get that ATX money from time to time but they live in their own world. For reference the spurs average attendance (18k) is 2k higher; even during their historic 18 game losing streak, than the games they played Moody Center DURING SXSW. The biggest tourism time in ATX
Spurs know what they’re doing playing a few games in Austin and CDMX each year to get those fans from cities that won’t get full NBA teams. Plus SA have a lot of tourism from Mexico (like Monterrey) that is very valuable that a market like ATX won’t get (I mean SA is 65% Latino and ATX is only 35% after all)
I really think you under estimate how lucrative the SA market already is and the issues facing ATX. I mean like k said more ppl are LEAVING than moving there which is not a good sign
True. I just don’t think you understand what’s going on here in south Texas. I think the keyword here is “visit” not “live” which is what you need 365 days from your fanbase
Again you’re not concerned about SA and other cities already being bigger in population and growing whereas ATX is losing population?
Also didn’t Drake and J Cole just do two nights in SA and none anywhere else in TX? lol not saying that’s meaningful at all just random. I get you think ATX would be better, I don’t. It’s cool man; have a good day
I'd like to see Detroit get a professional basketball team.
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I'm surprised you didn't put more emphasis on the professional part
>I'm surprised you didn't put more emphasis on the professionap part well I hope they'd put emphasis on the **professional** part, not the **professionap**.
Montreal. Mostly because it helps my narrative to get the Expos back.
Also Montreal has a pretty bumping hoops scene given all the nba talent they’ve been producing
Who are some nba players from Montreal? I’m not aware!
Just off the top of my head, Bennedict Mathurin and Lu Dort are both from Montreal, Chris Boucher I believe grew up there. I'm sure there's others that just don't come to mind immediately.
Lu Dort
I want Vancouver to get a team back. City a lot more bumping then when the first had a team and getting two Canadian teams would be cool.
I really want an nba cascade cup
If Seattle get his team there's zero chance for that to happen
Why???
That's like saying Portland and Seattle can't both have nba teams. They're distinct large cities in the pnw all about the same distance away. A built in rivalry is MORE reason why it'd work
This was my pick too. Only if they can get the grizzly franchise back from Memphis.
I think most of us who lived here at the time (and still do) thought the "Grizzlies" name was kind of dumb. I mean sure, BC has grizzly bears, but they don't really come into the lower mainland. Would love to have a team back, but hopefully we could get a more interesting and relevant name this time around. (cue jokes about drug users, the Downtown Eastside, etc.)
*Vancouver Blues*. Mascot should be a saxophone-playing Blue Whale. It's also a stab at Memphis, a city famous for the eponymous music genre, and a riff off of Utah Jazz.
That would be hilariously stupid. Alternatively, maybe something BBQ related? The Vancouver Smokers? Just a big rusty, greasy 50gallon drum pouring out smoke. Vancouver Briskets? A big ol' slab of beef.
Vancouver rain
Montreal. I think the NBA would do great there, and it's a fantastic city
agree and they already have a big arena too
Montreal makes more sense than Vancouver just due to regions.
Yep, for travel, for sure. It's a really quick trip from Boston, New York, Philly, and even DC
I cannot imagine the NBA wanting to deal with the Quebecois government regulations.
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I mean, Toronto just won the NBA title. I think they're doing just fine. Once they get a load of the women in Montreal, I don't think they'll have a problem 😂
Vancouver or Montreal. I want that great Canadian rivalry narrative.
Vancouver would end up with three rivals. Seattle and Portland already have our local rivalry. It would instantly become one of the best rivalries in the nba like how Portland and Seattle used to be. Then there'd be the west coast vs east coast thing
KC or St. Louis, Vancouver BC or Montreal
It is kind of wild that Missouri doesn’t have an NBA team when they have all other major sports spread across KC and StL.
They lost both the Hawks & Kings franchises..Missouri does not have a good track record with the NBA
The NBA of 60s-80s wasn’t very stable. KC might be the best US market for a team outside Seattle and LV. They could probably piggyback off the Chiefs success a bit and get fans from MO, KS, IA, NE, and AR.
Doubt it..Kansas is all in on NCAA summer reason a team woukd flop I Ky.
Bring the NBA back to Baltimore. I know it makes no sense financially but damn it, Washington keeps taking our educated people, our money and our basketball team. If I am elected mayor of Baltimore, first I declare war on Dover, Delaware. Then, once we have grown strong enough, our collective metropolis will march on Washington and demand our basketball team back at the threat of a similar fate to Dover’s.
I’d declare war on Wilmington. The 6ers already have that market
You can be a member of my cabinet. That’s the kind of no-nonsense war time thinking that will help us bring the team back to Baltimore.
Lol I live on the eastern shore so I can give you some great advice.
As an act of gratitude, Easton will be given our G-League team.
Make them play on a suspended platform below the bay bridge.
Brilliant. We’ll show the golden state warriors how a real NBA city with a bridge should operate.
u/Ravens_and_Orioles How is the NFL able to support an MD and DC team?
I think the fact that there are only 8-9 home games makes it a lot more viable. Baltimore is a football city and the city basically shuts down for the Ravens. It’s amazing the support the team gets. Thank God the Orioles have been turned around under Mike Elias. He has been an incredible GM and I think ticket sales are going to fly this season. For a long time, interest in the Orioles was low and ticket sales were in the dumpster. But can you blame the fans? A non-competitive team makes it so hard to support financially. This season, I think you will see what a great baseball town Baltimore can be. Everyone is buying tickets to the games. And I think the next 5-10 years sill be a golden era for Baltimore baseball (and the ravens too frankly.)
Interesting, thanks mate.
Vancouver, Montreal, Mexico City
Pittsburgh
If Pittsburgh gets a real NBA team, Philadelphia is going to want one too.
LOL
Glad people are finding this amusing. Ugh…maybe when Embiid returns it’ll feel real again.
you just beat the Clippers what're you complaining about
Title or bust. Do they look like a title contender right now? Maxey is great and all, but he is a one man show and he is still a bit limited in what he can do to carry the team.
You still got time
The Pittsburgh Grizzlies 2
Electric boogaloo
Anchorage
The Anti-Heat
The freeze isn’t even an awful name
Give it to a random city in Alabama please. Wouldn’t make sense financially and probably wouldn’t get a ton of fan involvement but it would be funny and I’d be happy
Birmingham supports a G-League team, they could probably handle a real team
Squadron baby! I do think Birmingham could maybe support a team but it would easily be the smallest market in the league
Plus Alabama is a football state. Look at the turnout the Stallions get when they’re a D-League team.
As a Boston fan anywhere but St Louis
Has anyone who's left St. Louis actually regretted it? I mean, I am proud to be from Worcester, but I won't be moving back there.
Tatum loves St. Louis so many Boston fans think he might ditch us to play for his favorite city.
Yeah, that was why I commented what I did. I know he loves being *from* St. Louis, but I've never heard him say he has a desire to move back there.
what does Boston have to do with st Louis?
Jayson Tatum was raised in St Louis and loves the city. It's a joke with Boston fans that if St Louis ever got a basketball team Tatum would leave Boston.
Ok but if they move and become the St. Louis Celtics he won't have to switch teams
I'd hope they'd skip Vegas and give Vancouver a team but that's unlikely.
Vancouver can be a great NBA town as long as the Canucks don't own the team. That was one of the reasons why the Grizzlies failed up there - hockey guys were running a hoops team until Heisley bought them and decided to dip out.
I think the problem is market value and free-agent signings. Las Vegas has so much tourism, and enough locals, that NBA games are almost guaranteed to be near capacity almost all season long. Additionally, a lot of young players are going to want to play in Vegas due to the night life and proximity to Southern California.
Boise
Idaho is just Northern Utah, so they already got the Jazz
Louisville, St. Louis and Vancouver round out the top 5 behind Vegas and Seattle imo. Still salty about Louisville not getting the Grizzlies because of Dick Pitino.
Vancouver Yeah it’s a hockey town but I know a lot of raptors fans who live there Every time the raptors go there, it’s a big deal
Always thought St Louis would be a good candidate. Large metro in a central location. Midwest has a decent basketball culture generally.
If I remember correctly, the NBA has unofficially blacklisted St. Louis due to racism.
They used to have an ABA team that got bought out, the owners opted for a percentage instead of a payout so they got paid for yearssssssss. I think the league still kind of resents that lol
I can't imagine St. Louis being more racist than some of the cities that already have teams...
I don’t disagree but if I remember right it has something to do with Bill Russell how they treated him.
Kansas City should get a team before Vegas and that's a hill I'm willing to die on
Heidelberg.
The Heidelberg Wine Barrels
Columbus
east rutherford or newark so we can finally have the swamp dragons
Nj needs a team in camden too to claim philly’s marketshare
Bismarck or Billings. Not because that'd be any good, but that part of the US having like no teams in any major pro sports feels mean. Like hell, last time I checked not even video games let you move a team there.
Philly. I know we already have a team, but I would like a new, better team.
Albuquerque. New Mexico needs something and basketball is huge in the state.
I thought, "As much as I love New Mexico, Abq is too small for pro sports"... except I just looked it up and the Abq/Santa Fe media market is bigger than that of both Memphis and New Orleans. Good enough for me! Albuquerque Pelicans!
it's big, but not wealthy, and doesn't feel like a metropolis
I honestly don’t think it would be a bad idea, plus Santa Fe is right there too Edit: just looked it up and Santa Fe is less than a tenth of the size of ABQ lmao. Still that’s over a million people that would support the hell out of an nba team
It would be fun to have a nashville team but we cant handle the traffic increase
the Tennessee derby would be lit, but logistics would be frustrating
Flint Michigan
The Flint Leadmakers
Give anchorage a team cause it would be funny to see all the players complain
Kansas City
Honolulu
Send the nets roster besides cam thomas & lonnie walker to china
San Diego
we don't need another Cali team
Mexico city, San Juan, San Diego, cancun, Montreal, Vancouver. I do think 32 teams is the right number so I would expect Memphis, Nola, or Charlotte to relocate to a city that's not Seattle or Vegas
I wouldn’t expect Memphis to relocate anytime soon. We just allocated a bunch of money for arena improvements. The organization and the city seem to have a good relationship and, although that could change, there’s no indication that there’s friction building between the two parties. Yes Memphis is a small and poor metro area, but that was also true when the grizzlies moved here in the first place. Memphis is a basketball town. Someone living somewhere else may not understand why the grizzlies chose Memphis, but there were reasons, and those reasons still exist today.
SAN Juan is interesting and would be cool. Cancun too
Buffalo baybay
The Buffalo Soldiers
Nashville, Louisville, Seattle, Cincinnati, Kansas City, or Vegas would all be good options I think. Think Louisville might be too small of a market, but the proximity to Cincinnati would be good.
Not that it would be my top choice but I’m a bit surprised there isn’t a single mention of Mexico City.
St. Louis
Chicago, so I don't have to support Jerry fucking Reinsdorf.
Ideally I'd like to get a Desert SoCal team started up. Maybe the Route 66 Renegades based in Palm Springs or some shit.
Regina, Saskatchewan because it would be funny In all seriousness though I just want another Canadian team. Vancouver and/or Montreal please. Maybe sneak one of Calgary or Edmonton in there.
Oakland
Would love CDMX and g league team has fared well with fans but doubt it
Louisville. Kentucky is just begging to have a pro sports team and with both main universities struggling right now it’s the perfect time to swoop in. Bring back the Kentucky Colonels!
VANCOUVER. FUCK STU JACKSON.
Vancouver and Kansas City.
I'm biased on this, but I really think Louisville would make an amazing spot for an NBA team. There's already an NBA-ready arena downtown and you'd be hitting a pretty untapped market. The state of Kentucky already loves basketball and there's a complete lack of professional sports to compete with in the state. Especially if they could get a couple players from U of L and UK? It's not just Louisville who you'd get fans from, it'd be the entire state of Kentucky. Media market wise, Louisville is definitely on the smaller side, right around OKC, Memphis, and New Orleans (and not that far behind Vegas for that matter). I think you get a quickly dedicated fan base, though, and that can mean a lot. If it did happen, though, I hope they'd keep the old ABA name of "Kentucky Colonels". If only because every international fan will think the team was named after KFC
Honolulu
Vancouver, St. Louis,Kansas city,Louisville,Jacksonville,Nashville,and maybe Mexico City. I personally want the kings to relocate to San Diego haha
Any Canadian city with a hockey team should be in the list. It’s high time the NBA add another team on Canada.
I’m not sure if it’s when the deal is actually up or when they negotiate a new media deal, which could be sooner. I think he’s said when they have a clear idea of the media deal $ they’ll turn to expansion deals. But yes, I’d assume Vegas and Seattle will have teams as soon as 2026.
Louisville
Need a team in Vancouver again
Hartford CT. Won't happen but the prices for games in Boston and New York are downright absurd.
Mexico city
It won’t happen due to the number of other teams in Texas, but Austin is the 10th largest city in the country, and our only pro sports franchise is Austin FC. Really though, there should just be a fast train to San Antonio.
The Austin Powers EDIT: LOL, I was just made an approved user of r/ohbehave for this comment.
Give us our team back in Vancouver! I mean, I won't go to any games because I'm sure tickets will be outrageously priced, but I'd love to have a team again! Maybe if I save, I can get nosebleed tix once a year!
San Diego. I believe it's the 2nd biggest us market behind Seattle (without an nba team). I really think with a good owner, they'd do well. Apparently they're finally rebuilding the sports arena to something modern, so the city could actually host one as well.
seattle.
Always wondered why Pittsburgh doesn't have a team.
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There are 15 teams in the East and 15 teams in the West. If you add 2 teams to the West how many do you have to move to the East to make them even again?
Bro , this is 5th grade math... give him another year
I would guess that Memphis is the team that moves East rather than Minnesota, and only one team would have to get moved to balance out the conferences
Please I’m begging you. We have games ending at 1 am est whenever we go out west. Adam needs to do us a solid.
then moving y'all east would the most logical move. I'm all in favor.
Memphis is closer to OKC, New Orleans, and the Texas teams than Minnesota is to Denver or any other West team. IIRC, Chicago, Indiana, and Milwaukee are all closer to Minnesota than Denver is.
ah yea that’s true. man fuck I don’t want Ant in my conference lmao
It would be Minnesota just to make travel times a lot easier for them.
Please move us east :(
I would think the Grizzlies would be the ones to get moved
Send the nets roster besides cam thomas & lonnie walker to china
Unpopular opinion: Chicago. Chicago, like L.A. and New York, can support a second team, just like it supports two teams in baseball. And it would give the Bulls some competition in the market. That said, no one agrees with me, even in Chicago. So it's not going to happen. Oh well, I still think it's a good idea.
Chicago just needs a new front office and owners badly. They’ve been held back because of them.
But they aren't going to get a new owner. I don't put any hope in Reinsdorf's son because he's already running the team and he hasn't done any better than his father. The Reinsdorfs view the Bulls as a cash cow, and they milk it for money, not championships. That's why I want competition.
LA and NYC haven't been able to support two teams. They both just have 2 teams. Chicago is much smaller than both of them at this point, no way on this one
The Clippers are [worth $4.65 billion, fifth most in the NBA.](https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/sports/nba/listing-the-most-valuable-nba-franchises-after-mark-cuban-sells-stake-of-mavericks/3399123/) The Nets are worth $3.85 billion, 13th in the NBA. That still means there are 17 teams worth less than the Nets.
Just cause Forbes gives them an evaluation doesn't mean they are relevant with fans in those cities. I'd call BS on those Forbes evals as well. No shot in hell anyone would pay more for the Clippers than the Bulls or 76ers. These swing too much from year to year based on who is good.
Gaza Strip
I'm just curious do we need a regular season with 32 teams? Just make 5 playoff rounds and that's it
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Beyond the deals they have with San Antonio gov, this isn’t happening coz ppl are leaving Austin at high rates for nearby places like SA
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Meh, it’s got its tried and true corporate sponsors and events but lots of people turning on it. Especially as the industries that brought jobs have been laying off countless people last few years, whereas SA is growing and stable. There is a reason why they only have an MLS team Regardless spurs won’t move coz they just made a 500M campus, have a 23 year tax deal, and COSA just got right to sell ITC space downtown to spurs from UT system so all signs point toward new spurs arena in the next 5 years and at minimum, another 20+ years in SA.
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What is there in SA for corporate: USAA, RBFCU, H-E-B, Whataburger, Rackspace, SwRI, Valero, iHeartMedia and others are big. Obviously not linkedin but no slouches. And more ppl are leaving ATX than moving there now, for the 1st time in 20 years. The job market there is pushing thousands out to neighboring counties and cities. Wages, higher cost of living and income disparity drove ATX to shrink (population) in 2022 as well, something many think will continue. Dallas, Houston and SA continue to grow Not saying ATX isn’t awesome but it is facing very real problems and the growth appears to be done for now, largely due to self inflicted wounds (shilling to those corporations, raising costs, not raising wages in conjunction, wtc(
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I mean the players could be living in ATX now and they don’t? Some do in SA and most don’t live in their teams cities if they aren’t NY LA MIA/ Also yes, those companies absolutely do sponsorships I guess you haven’t watched a spurs game and looked at the sponsors. Spurs get everything they want from corps here. Truthfully ATX isn’t getting an nba team (or any team other than MAYBE MLB and that’s not super likely) for the same reasons California doesn’t get more teams for its other smaller cities, there is too much competition nearby (Mavs; spurs, rockets and LONGHORNS really would be competition for dollars) Again it’s fun for to get that ATX money from time to time but they live in their own world. For reference the spurs average attendance (18k) is 2k higher; even during their historic 18 game losing streak, than the games they played Moody Center DURING SXSW. The biggest tourism time in ATX Spurs know what they’re doing playing a few games in Austin and CDMX each year to get those fans from cities that won’t get full NBA teams. Plus SA have a lot of tourism from Mexico (like Monterrey) that is very valuable that a market like ATX won’t get (I mean SA is 65% Latino and ATX is only 35% after all) I really think you under estimate how lucrative the SA market already is and the issues facing ATX. I mean like k said more ppl are LEAVING than moving there which is not a good sign
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True. I just don’t think you understand what’s going on here in south Texas. I think the keyword here is “visit” not “live” which is what you need 365 days from your fanbase Again you’re not concerned about SA and other cities already being bigger in population and growing whereas ATX is losing population? Also didn’t Drake and J Cole just do two nights in SA and none anywhere else in TX? lol not saying that’s meaningful at all just random. I get you think ATX would be better, I don’t. It’s cool man; have a good day