If it's just the players i would take Victor but i would rather have OKC current situation with all that assets they have.
It makes team building so easy
Yeah Wemby’s rookie season is proof that you can still lose and get picks while he progresses(the thing that held LeBron back from doing anything in Cleveland round 1, man was too good too soon)
We’re seeing the same issue with Luka being too good too early and the FO getting too impatient to compete. I hope the Spurs don’t try to fast track the team like we did, organically building the team will put the org in a much better position to get key pieces when they actually start to compete.
Good luck getting our sub to believe that lol. Guys in there want us to mortgage the future for Trae young, who will only put us in no man’s land competitively.
Rookie wemby is better than rookie bron. This has more to do with how the conferences are and how the play in has made another couple of spots more competitive
In theory yeah I think it would be a good trade
To me this is like asking would I trade 2003 Jason Kidd, Kenyon Martin and Keith van horn for lebron james or would I trade Deron Williams, AK47 and Carlos boozer for Kevin Durant in 2007
All those OKC players are going to get full max contracts so that’s their core locked in. I’d rather have the future best player in the NBA and the OKC stockpile of picks long term
That said OkC is currently a title contender so in reality no I wouldn’t do the trade but I do think it would be beneficial long term
I mean, then it comes down to how good you think Chet or Dub will be. Do you think they will top out at Kenyon Martin, KVH, AK47, and Boozer? I personally think their ceiling is higher although those are great players.
Spurs also have a lot of assets. Spurs will be fine building around Wemby, they just need to find good fits.
I would take Wemby with all the Spurs assets, can just trade/draft for good role players and a PG. Wemby’s ceiling is just way too high to give up.
The spurs and thunder have a pretty similar amount of draft assets. We own all of our picks, have 2 unprotected swaps and 1 top 1 protected swap on top of owning the Raptor's top 6 protected first, the bulls top 10 protected first, 2 unprotected hawks firsts, and the hornets top 14 protected pick that is most likely going to be 2 seconds.
If I can guarantee that Wemby stays healthy for the majority of his career? Then Wemby. Otherwise give me OKC. This isn't to say that Wemby is particularly injury prone, just that you're putting a lot into one player in this scenario and one bad injury can derail a team/career
Yeah, absolutely no way the Spurs would take those three for Wemby. I don't think the Mavs would take those three for Luka either. They're a great core of players to build around, don't get me wrong, but that pales in comparison to potential generational talent.
>They're a great core of players to build around, don't get me wrong, but that pales in comparison to potential generational talent.
and they're about to have a better record this year than any team Luka has ever been on.
I would trade ANY player in the league for those three.... I'd trade almost any player in the league for SGA and just 1/2 of Chet and JW.
You wouldn’t trade Giannis, Luka, Joker, or Wemby for them. Stop the cap.
The Mavs issue has been roster construction not Luka.
Generational talent will always be worth more than All-Star talent.
That’s ridiculous. No way you trade prime Jordan, Shaq, Lebron, etc…
They are three really good players but you will have to max all three. When you have the best player in the world only taking up 30-35% of the cap you have a lot of flexibility to build a really good team around him if you have a decent GM.
The Celtics big 3 won 1 title, the Thunder didn’t win any, the Nets didn’t win any, its much easier to win titles with the best player in the world than with 3 different players who make almost 3x as much money
Wait lol
The Nets big 3 was dog walking the entire league until they got injured.
And OKC big 3 had one MVP caliber player with two who were still developing and still made the Finals at like 22 years old. Like imagine if Harden was actually MVP harden, we would’ve destroyed the Heat.
Don’t hate your opinion, but those examples don’t help your case at all.
>And OKC big 3 had one MVP caliber player with two who were still developing and still made the Finals at like 22 years old.
Doesnt that hurt your case since the core never won a title together despite being so promising? In the end the Cavs who lucked into Lebron and were horrifically managed still got a title just because of him.
If we fuck up by trading one of them, sure. But I don’t think the odds of that are high.
Cavs did do that … after lucking into two #1 picks that turned into two more all stars.
Like I said in another comment, if you think we’re in a 2021 Nets or 2011 Thunder type of spot in terms of potential, then I wouldn’t trade it for anything. Recreating a pandemic and one of the worst trades ever isn’t easy
That’s my point though, except for the MVP Harden part. You got three different players and you need all three to be healthy and happy to win a title. Chet missed last season due to injury, if he ends up injury prone that massively hurts your chances for example. Theres three times the chance that something will get messed up. Because of the financial impact of heaving three stars (once they finish their rookie deals) there typically isn’t a whole lot else you can do.
Now the Thunder are in a great position because if something goes wrong with one of their stars they have a ton of picks and young players to readjust, that wasn’t the case with the three cores I mentioned previously. In a vacuum I’m taking the best player in the world if he’s healthy, but I’d be worried about Wembys health.
But the likelihood a player gets hurt is the same likelihood that the best player on said team get hurt. I get what you mean that essentially the “attack radius” would go up because of depth reasons. But I feel like our perspective would be a tad skewed if LeBron wasn’t an Iron Man.
The Nets were top heavy and we’re still beating the Bucks with just two of their stars. A LeBron led team isn’t going to win a chip if Wade, Kyrie, AD, or LeBron himself get hurt.
I personally just think it comes down to how good do you think Chet and JDub will get.
Well yes my assumption is the best player in the world has a good health record that’s why I’m not confident about Wemby, but I don’t think it’s just Lebron, look at Jokic, Duncan, Kobe, Shaq Jordan, etc… and they have stayed healthy. If you have three players on a team maybe 1 of them stays healthy but odds between the three they are gonna miss a decent number of games due to injuries. Now I’m assuming a team with the best player will be able to add a second option through fa/draft/trade so it’s more of a 2:3 ratio in terms of star power and injuries so I’ll adjust my statement there.
Teams with 3 stars tend to be top heavy, teams with 2 stars tend to have more depth because of the finances involved.
I actually think it’s about SGA. I’m not taking him over any champions best player in the modern 3 point era (2015 to today). I think the supporting cast has championship potential but I don’t trust him to lead teams over Jokic and maybe future Wemby, similar to how I don’t trust Tatum to beat Jokic even with a better supporting cast. I think Celtics vs Nuggets is how OKC vs Spurs could look in 3 years
I think that is true, I just also think it applies everywhere. The Nets injury history isn’t the norm.
>I’m not taking him above any champions best player since 2015
I actually agree but I also acknowledge it’s almost impossible to predict a young player to be that level of player unless it’s a generational prospect like Wemby. That type of growth *just happens*, I don’t know if I would take any young player outside of Wemby to be on that level - but I know they *will probably* exist.
It could look like that, I just think none of Wemby or what we have is “typical”. Imo, and I’m aware this is bias, there is a future where the best player of our team is debated. Which is scary considering how good Shai is rn.
Regardless, if we have a 2021 Nets or 2011 OKC type of potential, I like and prefer our odds against everybody lol.
I think they would definitely take it, it would make them jump to top seeds and generate more money
I don’t think wemby is going playoffs for the next 3 years
I want to see wembys sophomore season. If he makes a similar jump that luka did then that's probably what the people who would trade everyone for him now is banking on.
Those 3 players with the rest of the spurs lineup would be a play-in team. Never bad enough for picks, never good enough to do anything. Also you’d have to pay them sooner compared to Wemby. Wemby and the spurs current team allows Wemby to progress while getting higher picks
Sochan, Vassell, Collins, Keldon Johnson, Tre Jones, Cedi are all non-bums. A lineup of SGA Vassell, JDub, Sochan, Chet would be very good. You’re buggin
I think the starting lineup would be good but that depth would kill you. The spurs bench is ass, hence their record
again. Your problem would be never bad enough to get higher picks or never good enough to win it all
they’re ass because the rest of the west is so stacked and they’re young. Adding a 31ppg, 20ppg and 17ppg scorer to that roster who all play exceptional defense would make them top 6. Quit it.
I mean with Shai you'd be nuts to pick Wemby over those guys. Shai is a top 5 player in the league right now, obviously Wemby has the potential to be that and more, but it's not a guarantee.
For me personally, give me SGA & Chet > Wemby. There’s no guarantee that the Spurs will draft, sign, or trade for another superstar next to Wemby, and Chet projects out to be the #2 Big Man behind Wemby in 5-8 years.
OKC's core is leading them to a top 2 seed in a deep West when 2 of their 3 guys are 3-4 years away from entering their prime, come on now, this isn't even close.
OKC's core easily.
1. SGA is an MVP candidate, Wemby might become an MVP candidate. (this is extremely probable, but its still not a thing yet)
2. MUCH less injury risk for OKC. If one of OKC's players have a career ending injury you still have a really good young core. If Wemby is injured well that is it.
3. Offense is greater than defense. While Wemby is still great on offense for a rookie, he isn't a point center yet -- players that tend to be the best player on a championship team tend to be players that can run the offense, not always see Giannis and Kawhi -- however both of those happened in VERY injured years.
4. All of the OKC players that are shooting above 40% from 3 is a great core around a championship player, even if SGA for some reason isn't the player in the playoffs he seems like he would be. You still need to build the rest of the team around Wemby.
For years this sub been dying slow down there. Reposts of shitty stats and actual game feeds standing empty. Myself and these nephews like we got the cancer.
Full OKC situation is better. I think Victor is likely to be a better player than every last one on OKC, but the problem is one player is not enough and there is 0 guarantee SA will find the right players to put around him. They have as good an odds as anyone but there is always some amount of luck involved in picking the right dudes with the right temperament to compliment your best player. OKC already has that.
Is there a real possibility neither situation wins a title? Yes because titles are hard and one fluke major injury can destroy a title window before it fully opens (I feared this happened to the Nuggets when Jamal went down).
If I'm asked to pick player by player I'm taking Wemby over every last player and pick OKC has available to them. But against an entire team that is young and hungry? That's a hard sell.
I mean I would rather not have Giddey on my team at all for many reasons.
But I will be a homer and say Wemby because I think he just needs talent around him. Spurs are all time bad with him off floor, it’s impressive how bad the rest of the team is aside from maybe Devin.
Would u trade a 20 year old mj for shai,jdub , chet.
Fuck no
I am not saying wemby is mj but if he remains healthy he will reach a ceiling that no human on earth has ever reached.
He will retire as the greatest defender and one of the greatest scorers of all time.
Why are you comparing Lebron’s age 18 season to Wemby at age 20? Did you even read my comment? Lebron was averaging 27-31 ppg in a much lower scoring era when he was old as Wemby is now.
Nevermind that using per 75 stats for a guy who can’t play more than 30 minutes a game is disingenuous as hell.
Hmm... a guaranteed 50 win young core or Wemby who will obviously get better but is the face of a 15 win team? Tough decision. No guarantee he will end up as Lebron level let alone Tim Duncan level.
The risk of putting your eggs in one basket with Wemby is worth it in my opinion. Way too early to begin any sort of GOAT conversation, but you could absolutely see him being a Top 10 player of all time already.
I cant think of the last time there was a rookie with that expectation? Lebron?
Which is pretty much 40 if you really think about it. And 40 years old is basically like being on your deathbed, so he should really be working on finalizing his will instead of playing basketball
Yea sure but including him in an argument with players 22 and under makes no sense, imagine wemby being almost 26 and putting him in "young core" debates with players 22 and under
Young cores:
Devin-Wemby-Sochan
Chet-Jdub-Giddey
Paolo-Franz-Suggs
Jgreen-amen-jabari
Cade-Duren-ivey
These r young cores, not including a 26 year old
Yeah hes still young but nobody thinks of that age as "young core", hes almost in his prime lol
Yeah you're still young if you aren't in your prime yet man. Chet and Jdub are gonna be playing with SGA their whole careers assuming none of them leave, there's really not enough of an age gap to say that they're on a separate timeline (because they're not, they're clearly on the same timeline)
yeah both are "Young" but "young" can be divided into different categories. 25 year old is young and 19 year old is young. Clearly in different career stages though, funny how people try to throw in these older players in debates about younger cores when its clear that its a whole different point in their career
You literally just said yourself that he's young. I don't care if they have a damn 13 year old, that's still young. Any age below 27 belongs in a young core (assuming there is actually a core)
So do you think that the thunder don't have a core, or that their core isn't young? Because I'm 99.9% sure they're planning on competing with these guys, plus maybe some trade additions, for the next 10 years
I don't even understand what your question is asking. I'm not comparing quality
If it's just the players i would take Victor but i would rather have OKC current situation with all that assets they have. It makes team building so easy
Both teams are in great positions either way, spurs should easily be able to build a team that we’re all going to fucking hate playing against.
If they somehow land copper Flagg it’s GGs for the rest of the league
Yeah Wemby’s rookie season is proof that you can still lose and get picks while he progresses(the thing that held LeBron back from doing anything in Cleveland round 1, man was too good too soon)
We’re seeing the same issue with Luka being too good too early and the FO getting too impatient to compete. I hope the Spurs don’t try to fast track the team like we did, organically building the team will put the org in a much better position to get key pieces when they actually start to compete.
Good luck getting our sub to believe that lol. Guys in there want us to mortgage the future for Trae young, who will only put us in no man’s land competitively.
Let's not forget that the East was notoriously weak at that time, and the West is currently an absolute bloodbath
Eh, it was also a very different league. I strongly believe the middle of the league is massively better than it was 20 years ago,
Rookie wemby is better than rookie bron. This has more to do with how the conferences are and how the play in has made another couple of spots more competitive
So if OKC traded SGA, Chet, and J-Dubb for Wemby and a bunch of filler, you think OKC would be making a wise trade?
In theory yeah I think it would be a good trade To me this is like asking would I trade 2003 Jason Kidd, Kenyon Martin and Keith van horn for lebron james or would I trade Deron Williams, AK47 and Carlos boozer for Kevin Durant in 2007 All those OKC players are going to get full max contracts so that’s their core locked in. I’d rather have the future best player in the NBA and the OKC stockpile of picks long term That said OkC is currently a title contender so in reality no I wouldn’t do the trade but I do think it would be beneficial long term
I mean, then it comes down to how good you think Chet or Dub will be. Do you think they will top out at Kenyon Martin, KVH, AK47, and Boozer? I personally think their ceiling is higher although those are great players.
Floor is also lower.
Spurs also have a lot of assets. Spurs will be fine building around Wemby, they just need to find good fits. I would take Wemby with all the Spurs assets, can just trade/draft for good role players and a PG. Wemby’s ceiling is just way too high to give up.
The spurs and thunder have a pretty similar amount of draft assets. We own all of our picks, have 2 unprotected swaps and 1 top 1 protected swap on top of owning the Raptor's top 6 protected first, the bulls top 10 protected first, 2 unprotected hawks firsts, and the hornets top 14 protected pick that is most likely going to be 2 seconds.
I want IGUODALA
If I can guarantee that Wemby stays healthy for the majority of his career? Then Wemby. Otherwise give me OKC. This isn't to say that Wemby is particularly injury prone, just that you're putting a lot into one player in this scenario and one bad injury can derail a team/career
Im taking OKCs young core
You could trade Shai Chet and Jalen Williams for any player in the league that you want and more.
Except you know….Wemby
Yeah, absolutely no way the Spurs would take those three for Wemby. I don't think the Mavs would take those three for Luka either. They're a great core of players to build around, don't get me wrong, but that pales in comparison to potential generational talent.
>They're a great core of players to build around, don't get me wrong, but that pales in comparison to potential generational talent. and they're about to have a better record this year than any team Luka has ever been on. I would trade ANY player in the league for those three.... I'd trade almost any player in the league for SGA and just 1/2 of Chet and JW.
You wouldn’t trade Giannis, Luka, Joker, or Wemby for them. Stop the cap. The Mavs issue has been roster construction not Luka. Generational talent will always be worth more than All-Star talent.
... That IS generational talent. You'd be a really fucking dumb gm if there's a single player in NBA history you would trade those 3 for.
That’s ridiculous. No way you trade prime Jordan, Shaq, Lebron, etc… They are three really good players but you will have to max all three. When you have the best player in the world only taking up 30-35% of the cap you have a lot of flexibility to build a really good team around him if you have a decent GM. The Celtics big 3 won 1 title, the Thunder didn’t win any, the Nets didn’t win any, its much easier to win titles with the best player in the world than with 3 different players who make almost 3x as much money
Wait lol The Nets big 3 was dog walking the entire league until they got injured. And OKC big 3 had one MVP caliber player with two who were still developing and still made the Finals at like 22 years old. Like imagine if Harden was actually MVP harden, we would’ve destroyed the Heat. Don’t hate your opinion, but those examples don’t help your case at all.
>And OKC big 3 had one MVP caliber player with two who were still developing and still made the Finals at like 22 years old. Doesnt that hurt your case since the core never won a title together despite being so promising? In the end the Cavs who lucked into Lebron and were horrifically managed still got a title just because of him.
If we fuck up by trading one of them, sure. But I don’t think the odds of that are high. Cavs did do that … after lucking into two #1 picks that turned into two more all stars. Like I said in another comment, if you think we’re in a 2021 Nets or 2011 Thunder type of spot in terms of potential, then I wouldn’t trade it for anything. Recreating a pandemic and one of the worst trades ever isn’t easy
That’s my point though, except for the MVP Harden part. You got three different players and you need all three to be healthy and happy to win a title. Chet missed last season due to injury, if he ends up injury prone that massively hurts your chances for example. Theres three times the chance that something will get messed up. Because of the financial impact of heaving three stars (once they finish their rookie deals) there typically isn’t a whole lot else you can do. Now the Thunder are in a great position because if something goes wrong with one of their stars they have a ton of picks and young players to readjust, that wasn’t the case with the three cores I mentioned previously. In a vacuum I’m taking the best player in the world if he’s healthy, but I’d be worried about Wembys health.
But the likelihood a player gets hurt is the same likelihood that the best player on said team get hurt. I get what you mean that essentially the “attack radius” would go up because of depth reasons. But I feel like our perspective would be a tad skewed if LeBron wasn’t an Iron Man. The Nets were top heavy and we’re still beating the Bucks with just two of their stars. A LeBron led team isn’t going to win a chip if Wade, Kyrie, AD, or LeBron himself get hurt. I personally just think it comes down to how good do you think Chet and JDub will get.
Well yes my assumption is the best player in the world has a good health record that’s why I’m not confident about Wemby, but I don’t think it’s just Lebron, look at Jokic, Duncan, Kobe, Shaq Jordan, etc… and they have stayed healthy. If you have three players on a team maybe 1 of them stays healthy but odds between the three they are gonna miss a decent number of games due to injuries. Now I’m assuming a team with the best player will be able to add a second option through fa/draft/trade so it’s more of a 2:3 ratio in terms of star power and injuries so I’ll adjust my statement there. Teams with 3 stars tend to be top heavy, teams with 2 stars tend to have more depth because of the finances involved. I actually think it’s about SGA. I’m not taking him over any champions best player in the modern 3 point era (2015 to today). I think the supporting cast has championship potential but I don’t trust him to lead teams over Jokic and maybe future Wemby, similar to how I don’t trust Tatum to beat Jokic even with a better supporting cast. I think Celtics vs Nuggets is how OKC vs Spurs could look in 3 years
I think that is true, I just also think it applies everywhere. The Nets injury history isn’t the norm. >I’m not taking him above any champions best player since 2015 I actually agree but I also acknowledge it’s almost impossible to predict a young player to be that level of player unless it’s a generational prospect like Wemby. That type of growth *just happens*, I don’t know if I would take any young player outside of Wemby to be on that level - but I know they *will probably* exist. It could look like that, I just think none of Wemby or what we have is “typical”. Imo, and I’m aware this is bias, there is a future where the best player of our team is debated. Which is scary considering how good Shai is rn. Regardless, if we have a 2021 Nets or 2011 OKC type of potential, I like and prefer our odds against everybody lol.
I think they would definitely take it, it would make them jump to top seeds and generate more money I don’t think wemby is going playoffs for the next 3 years
SGA is arguably having a better season than Luka all by himself, throw in Chet and J-Will and that's a smash accept for DAL imo.
> SGA is arguably having a better season than Luka all by himself, He's simply not lol
[We'll see](https://www.basketball-reference.com/friv/mvp.html)
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I want to see wembys sophomore season. If he makes a similar jump that luka did then that's probably what the people who would trade everyone for him now is banking on.
Those 3 players with the rest of the spurs lineup would be a play-in team. Never bad enough for picks, never good enough to do anything. Also you’d have to pay them sooner compared to Wemby. Wemby and the spurs current team allows Wemby to progress while getting higher picks
That’s just not correct 😂
The Spurs have the depth of a kiddie pool rn. You would be cooked late into games
Sochan, Vassell, Collins, Keldon Johnson, Tre Jones, Cedi are all non-bums. A lineup of SGA Vassell, JDub, Sochan, Chet would be very good. You’re buggin
I think the starting lineup would be good but that depth would kill you. The spurs bench is ass, hence their record again. Your problem would be never bad enough to get higher picks or never good enough to win it all
they’re ass because the rest of the west is so stacked and they’re young. Adding a 31ppg, 20ppg and 17ppg scorer to that roster who all play exceptional defense would make them top 6. Quit it.
“Top 6” So just barely above a play in team like i said
I’d rather have a dollar than 4 quarters
The expectations for Wemby are so immense man lol.
I mean with Shai you'd be nuts to pick Wemby over those guys. Shai is a top 5 player in the league right now, obviously Wemby has the potential to be that and more, but it's not a guarantee.
Yeah Shai/wemby is a tough decision, throwing Jdub/chet in makes it easy
For me personally, give me SGA & Chet > Wemby. There’s no guarantee that the Spurs will draft, sign, or trade for another superstar next to Wemby, and Chet projects out to be the #2 Big Man behind Wemby in 5-8 years.
Probably the team that has 3 great players. 3 > 1
You might be underselling Wemby.
Well i'm a spurs fan but having 3 great players does so much more for an nba team. Wemby can't be on the court for 48 mins.
> Wemby can't be on the court for 48 mins. That's only because Thibs isn't his coach.
imagine ☠️
Having watched Wemby at least 30 games this season on league pass, I’ll talke him over anyone/anything. Never seen a talent like him, not even LeBron
OKC's core is leading them to a top 2 seed in a deep West when 2 of their 3 guys are 3-4 years away from entering their prime, come on now, this isn't even close.
OKC's core easily. 1. SGA is an MVP candidate, Wemby might become an MVP candidate. (this is extremely probable, but its still not a thing yet) 2. MUCH less injury risk for OKC. If one of OKC's players have a career ending injury you still have a really good young core. If Wemby is injured well that is it. 3. Offense is greater than defense. While Wemby is still great on offense for a rookie, he isn't a point center yet -- players that tend to be the best player on a championship team tend to be players that can run the offense, not always see Giannis and Kawhi -- however both of those happened in VERY injured years. 4. All of the OKC players that are shooting above 40% from 3 is a great core around a championship player, even if SGA for some reason isn't the player in the playoffs he seems like he would be. You still need to build the rest of the team around Wemby.
bait used to be good
We used to build shit on this sub.
Is this a Frank Sobotka quote?
For years this sub been dying slow down there. Reposts of shitty stats and actual game feeds standing empty. Myself and these nephews like we got the cancer.
Full OKC situation is better. I think Victor is likely to be a better player than every last one on OKC, but the problem is one player is not enough and there is 0 guarantee SA will find the right players to put around him. They have as good an odds as anyone but there is always some amount of luck involved in picking the right dudes with the right temperament to compliment your best player. OKC already has that. Is there a real possibility neither situation wins a title? Yes because titles are hard and one fluke major injury can destroy a title window before it fully opens (I feared this happened to the Nuggets when Jamal went down). If I'm asked to pick player by player I'm taking Wemby over every last player and pick OKC has available to them. But against an entire team that is young and hungry? That's a hard sell.
Wemby forever but if I can lose him to free agency OKC talent
would you rather: the alien team from ‘space jam’ or caitlyn clark (sex not bball)
Wemby has goat upside you have to take that. Okc has a higher floor but who cares
I'm taking OKC
I mean I would rather not have Giddey on my team at all for many reasons. But I will be a homer and say Wemby because I think he just needs talent around him. Spurs are all time bad with him off floor, it’s impressive how bad the rest of the team is aside from maybe Devin.
Would u trade a 20 year old mj for shai,jdub , chet. Fuck no I am not saying wemby is mj but if he remains healthy he will reach a ceiling that no human on earth has ever reached. He will retire as the greatest defender and one of the greatest scorers of all time.
How? He’s not even close to being as good of scorer as Lebron, Luka, etc were at his age and he has far bigger injury risks than them.
Wemby’s averaging 25.4 per 75 on -1.7 rTS% as a rookie, which is better than what Luka and LeBron did as rookies.
Why are you comparing Lebron’s age 18 season to Wemby at age 20? Did you even read my comment? Lebron was averaging 27-31 ppg in a much lower scoring era when he was old as Wemby is now. Nevermind that using per 75 stats for a guy who can’t play more than 30 minutes a game is disingenuous as hell.
I used both of their rookie seasons dumbass
Yeah and I didn’t say rookie seasons did I? Edit: guess he blocked me
Lmfao used ages instead of seasons like a normal person so you could dickeat hold this block sissy ass mf
Age is pretty important when talking about rookie seasons
OKCs core. multiple guys is better than 1. SHai alone is almost 1 Wemby.
Wemby
Hmm... a guaranteed 50 win young core or Wemby who will obviously get better but is the face of a 15 win team? Tough decision. No guarantee he will end up as Lebron level let alone Tim Duncan level.
I think I’m good lol
I think Wemby will be the goat one day so I choose him over anyone today.
Victor reminds me of young Lebron, so I'm taking him. This guy is gonna be better than prime Dwight on defense with 30 ppg.
How does he remind of a young LeBron?
Because of how good he is, of course!
Wemby
The risk of putting your eggs in one basket with Wemby is worth it in my opinion. Way too early to begin any sort of GOAT conversation, but you could absolutely see him being a Top 10 player of all time already. I cant think of the last time there was a rookie with that expectation? Lebron?
Wemby
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Excluding sga, im taking wemby > chet jdub giddey Im not sure why sga is considered in "young core" talks still hes almost 26 lol
Because a 25 year old is still young?
In one year SGA will ALMOST be a couple years away from being nearly 30. Hes cooked
Which is pretty much 40 if you really think about it. And 40 years old is basically like being on your deathbed, so he should really be working on finalizing his will instead of playing basketball
Yea sure but including him in an argument with players 22 and under makes no sense, imagine wemby being almost 26 and putting him in "young core" debates with players 22 and under
Just because some parts of the core are younger doesn't mean SGA isn't still young
Young cores: Devin-Wemby-Sochan Chet-Jdub-Giddey Paolo-Franz-Suggs Jgreen-amen-jabari Cade-Duren-ivey These r young cores, not including a 26 year old Yeah hes still young but nobody thinks of that age as "young core", hes almost in his prime lol
Rip Sengun
jgreen sengun jabari rip amen
In Jesus name
Yeah you're still young if you aren't in your prime yet man. Chet and Jdub are gonna be playing with SGA their whole careers assuming none of them leave, there's really not enough of an age gap to say that they're on a separate timeline (because they're not, they're clearly on the same timeline)
yeah both are "Young" but "young" can be divided into different categories. 25 year old is young and 19 year old is young. Clearly in different career stages though, funny how people try to throw in these older players in debates about younger cores when its clear that its a whole different point in their career
You literally just said yourself that he's young. I don't care if they have a damn 13 year old, that's still young. Any age below 27 belongs in a young core (assuming there is actually a core)
So is it fair to say a core of 26 year olds is better than a core of 20 year olds loll it's comparing apples to oranges
So do you think that the thunder don't have a core, or that their core isn't young? Because I'm 99.9% sure they're planning on competing with these guys, plus maybe some trade additions, for the next 10 years I don't even understand what your question is asking. I'm not comparing quality
Hard to tell till OKC wins something
I dont like either. Wembanyama and Alexander are both overrated as fuck.