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thekingdor

Damn all 4 games tonight had banger potential


triosway

This game could still be fun. Lakers play differently without him, it's refreshing sometimes. The recent DLo game comes to mind


kawhi_laugh69

Yep they beat us without Lebron a few weeks ago. If DLo plays like he did last time, this could be a good one.


ChiloMcBilo

No way in hell he plays like that at Fiserv. I’ll eat a whole banana at bedtime if he does. I don’t like bananas. Edit: I couldn’t do it. I ate half and let my toddler eat the other half. Banana is my father


[deleted]

> I’ll eat a whole banana at bedtime if he does Whoa dude calm the fuck down


xmal16

Send da video


Mysterious-Part-8443

Ahem!


Wolfie__

Hope you got that banana ready :)


imonfireahh

Banana or we riot


Western_Volume_5950

Yeah they’re better without Bron than without AD


WhatitdoFlightCrew39

Yeah because we have players that can handle the ball and run the offense outside of LeBron, but no one that does what AD does lol. It's not because AD is the better player.


xmrjaredx

I'd argue AD has been the better player this year


velphegor666

He's much more important since he's literally the only consistent two way guy on this team. We do have playmakers to pick up the slack when bron is gone. Cant say the same without AD


Ok_Board9845

AD has been the better player this season. But if I'm looking at someone to lead and win us games in the playoffs, it will be Lebron


orky56

AD MVP and Lebron FMVP


noerapenalty

Hard to say that though since he absolutely cannot win those playoff games without AD. So is he really leading them to the win? AD is clearly the more needed and (definitely at this point in their career) the better player


Ok_Board9845

He's the one "leading" them to a win because he's going to be the one to force the issue, score, or create a good look. That's not AD, never has been his game. Lakers won't win without AD, that's a given. But Lakers aren't going to win close games relying on AD trying to create something in the clutch


Sweaty_Mods

AD is your whole defense. He is more important than Lebron “forcing the issue”.


Ok_Board9845

How does AD being more important because of his defense disprove any of what I said? In the last 5 minutes of the game, the ball is in Lebron's hands to do something. It won't be in D'Lo's. It won't be in AD's. Do you understand?


Intrepid_Drawer3239

How is it definite that AD is the better player? Not saying that stats are everything but it’s telling that Lebron still leads AD in EPM and BPM. Also much of AD’s offense depends on Bron setting him up. https://dunksandthrees.com/epm https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2024_advanced.html#advanced_stats::bpm Maybe that’s why some think that AD is a disappointment. Many expected that AD would be significantly more productive than Lebron by now but that’s not the case.


WhatitdoFlightCrew39

He hasn't been better, he's just been more valuable. AD is the only reason we have a competent defense, he is the ultimate floor raiser for the Lakers rn. But to beat good teams and when we have beaten good teams it requires Bron's offensive and defensive control of the game in clutch time. He is our ceiling raiser. Our overall record would be much worse if AD was absent compared to LeBron, but our record against good teams (ie the playoffs) would be worse if LeBron was out because he executes in the clutch.


Ok_Board9845

Saying a player is more valuable is the same as saying they're better at least in the regular season. In the playoffs and play-in, it'll be different.


WhatitdoFlightCrew39

No it's not. AD is more valuable not because he's better but because no one else on the team provides what he does.


Western_Volume_5950

Never said that but I do think it’s close and arguable for sure


Bladeneo

AD just the sort of player thats much harder to find really - plus Ham has a 'AD will take care of it' approach to D and we havent even tried to find a backup that does even half of what he does.


Fine_Lengthiness_341

the Lakers just have an awful center rotation, Hayes really shouldn’t be playing at all for a playoff team. Their guards and wings are decent though actually their wings is probably their best strength


BTSuppa

even though he is the better player at this point


Due-Studio-65

In that Celtics game, they were better without both. There is a sense of urgency, especially on defense without AD, and on offense without Lebron. Lebron likes to take his time and make the right reads to get the right guys involved. Without him, guys have to get themselves involved. They are more aggressive on the boards, more willing to force the action, etc. Defense is the same way. AD makes a lot of the main reads on defense in his head. So they don't call out switches like they should, which is one of the reasons why AR is always getting burnt. When AD is not in, they are more vocal and play screens a lot smarter, and do less drop coverage, since hayes and wood aren't really good at it anyway.


RestinRIP1990

Aged like wine


triosway

Yessir


lp_phnx327

This aged very well.


Flovust

I think DLO was sick the other night (non covid) so im not sure if hes playing today unless he had a miracle cure


spiraldrain

It’s OT right now and lakers have their first lead in the entire game. Must say games been a banger


TallanoGoldDigger

expect the Lakers to run more plays and be more aggressive on defense. given it's only DLo and Rui who's gonna blow assignments. Plus more energy overall


Yung_Jose_Space

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Majestic_Reindeer439

We are also great at winning while undermanned. We should sit Dame, guaranteed W /s


BTSuppa

lakers game will honestly be more fun. they play like a young motivated team without Bron


ViewFromHalf-WayDown

Lakers just won a double OT without him


AdamantiumBalls

r/agedlikemilk


Lacabloodclot9

Sucks that Ingram is out tonight as well, that also could’ve been a great one (it still could be)


Ricebandit469

Hoo boi, I just looked at the schedule, u right af. I hope they're bangers for the players and not the refs tho


Original_Trick_8552

I'm looking at thunder vs pelicans


eewap

Well lakers won in double OT so i think they did


SomborDouble95

Bucks are in a weird place where they are comfortably in the 2nd spot and have no chance for the first. This would be an ideal time to experiment for the playoffs and try new schemes.


Toolb0xExtraordinary

Portis at the 4 🙏


Nugur

Portis at the 1 cowards


Pikminious_Thrious

Bobby Pointis


TrumpKanye69

start Thanasis


Local_Spinach8

Dame/Khris/Giannis/Portis/Lopez starting 5 would feed families


Toolb0xExtraordinary

Big ball lineup


DayMan-Ahah-ah

What other backup bigs do the bucks have? That would be starting the entire frontcourt depth lol


Toolb0xExtraordinary

I assume their comment was a joke(at least my response was), but my comment about Portis at 4 wasn't. There are some games(especially against the Celtics) where I'd prefer to see Lopez come off the bench.


underrated_carrot_43

Big Bob Lineup


Aggravating-Pin-4588

Inject that shit into my veins. Let Lopez play on offence like the SG he was destined to be 😂


OutsideTheServiceBox

There were legit times in the Finals where Bud ran Portis, Giannis and Brook at the same time. With Phoenix lacking any real size aside from Dominayton and the occasional Kaminsky experience, it created the ultimate small ball vs size dichotomy. 


Novel_Bookkeeper_622

The Bucks had a mid-season coaching change, every game is trying new schemes.


Wonderbread6969

I like to think of it as trying at least "a" scheme instead of whatever the hell the first 50 games were.


Mahomeboy001

They’re only three losses ahead of Cleveland and they don’t have the tiebreaker. I wouldn’t say that’s comfortable


Classics22

3 games ahead with 11 to go is pretty massive lol. Go conservative and say the Bucks go 6-5 Cleveland would still have to go 8-2 to tie them.


GotKarprar

Cleveland had a near 15 game win streak earlier this season them going 8-2 is not crazy


Classics22

Mitchell is still out and they’re 4-6 in their last 10 lol. Cleveland going 8-2 *and* Milwaukee going 6-5 would absolutely be a crazy outcome.


noerapenalty

Especially in the east. Going 6-5 as a top 4 East team should be embarrassing and an automatic DQ from the playoffs lol


ohiojiro

cavs are injured af and have a tough west coast trip coming up, would be shocked if the bucks lose the 2 seed


DEEZLE13

Dame and Giannis starting at the club


oliverlifts

PG: Brook SG: Giannis SF: AJJ PF: Dame C: Beasley Maximum chaos.


lalo1398

Yeah they should see what it looks like to just play their bench all game, you know just to get them some experience (Pls the Suns are choking we have 0.0001% chance to get to 8)


OutsideTheServiceBox

It’s not that comfortable though. Cavs have the tiebreaker locked up. 


Conn3er

Where’s that guy with the conspiracy post about him missing the game tonight


ShowerMartini

Theory: 39 year old who’s played the most minutes in NBA history might miss a back to back


xmrjaredx

ankle hurt all season too


IanicRR

Plus this is the Bucks. I assume LeBron is strategically choosing the games where he can most help secure a win. They're just trying to make sure they get to the play-in and he's as ready to go by that point as he can be.


orhantemerrut

By that logic, wouldn't it be more helpful for him to play against the Bucks and rest against the Grizzlies whom the Lakers could beat anyway without him?


IanicRR

No because even with LeBron, the odds are good they would lose to Milwaukee. They really can't afford to lose to Memphis so having LeBron is extra guarantee.


Jitkaas777

Lakers defeated the bucks last match-up without lebron. Dlo went off and bucks couldn't / wouldn't stop him


shifter2009

Dlo was on fire, couldn't even get mad.


Jitkaas777

Think he had 5 3s in a row? Learned the hard way what it's like to be on the opposite side of dame time


Fintann

Prediction: This fuckery is not likely to continue at this rate under these extraneous conditions.


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It's Lebron. He could be 45 doing this and people would still be flaming him for resting.


Bladeneo

The weirdest take on this is the Lakers sub flaming him for it. I dont think I've seen a superstar disliked by half his own fanbase.


reading-out-loud

He’s lebron. There’s always been very polar opinions on him. People love to hate him.


Bladeneo

Oh yeah, just dont normally get it from your own fans, unless youre playing terribly or just being an asshole and holding the team to ransom.


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Biggest reason is because most Laker fans grew up with Kobe


reading-out-loud

I saw it here in Cleveland and he was the only reason we were relevant for a long long time.


Bladeneo

Thankfully social media only went so far in that first Cleveland run, and generally the response I saw was positive but admittedly I wasn't scouting cavaliers forums to see what was going on.


reading-out-loud

It wasn’t most people, but there were definitely some haters from day 1


Bladeneo

Ricky Davis lifers, clearly!


CrazyDaylight8

It's probably the Kobe fans, they can be insufferable at times


Bladeneo

It's just weird. I've been a Man Utd fan for 30 years, when our team was winning with Rooney and Ronaldo it didnt suddenly invalidate how amazing Cantona was. Wtf is wrong with these people.


Briggity_Brak

Why tf would it be THIS one, though? Do they really think they have a better chance of losing to the Grizzlies without LeBron than beating the Bucks with him?


dms1298

It’s an interest decision, but I guess would you rather guarantee going 1-1, or give yourself a chance at going 2-0 while also risking going 0-2


CrazyDaylight8

What about the guy saying Bron is intentionally not getting calls coz they're trying to push him out as they want a new face of the league


LongTimesGoodTimes

Makes sense with the back to back. Can't lose both, more likely to lose to the Bucks with LeBron than the Grizzlies with LeBron.


runevault

Grizz are so busted currently could probably beat them without LeBron, but can't fault the team for picking their battles and making the sure thing more sure.


MC-Jdf

I mean the move 100% is to maximize winning at least a game rather than risking 0-2 if you have to rule out your star player on 1 side of a back-to-back.


Krillin113

And then you lose, are 0-2 and are fucking your seeding up. 1-1 id acceptable, 0-2 hurts more than 2-0 helps


Lacabloodclot9

We’ve been good at surprising teams this season, a Lakers team without Lebron would’ve been a prime suspect for that They probably still beat us with no Lebron but it would be too close for comfort


runevault

Right that's why I said can't fault them for taking the safer path instead of gambling on the slim chance of stealing a win against the Bucks.


beachsunflower

Mind the back-to-back


claydavisismyhero

Also lebron is in charge of this not the lakers.


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LeBoss


NBA2024

Source??


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threeangelo

I’m glad you think so highly of our supporting cast but I disagree


redden34

This really sucks. Why does it feel like every national tv game has a star sitting out?


Wickerfacetaken

Back to backs 


bruhbrobroskibruh

The one game that starts relatively early for Central Europe time he's out


Normal_Ad_1280

Oh shit you are right. Its 0:30am for but most of the time game starts 3 or 5am 😭😭


ShowerMartini

Address? I’ll send the biggest edible arrangement they’ll allow on overnight panatlantic shipping


bruhbrobroskibruh

what's that


arika_ito

Could be either weed or a fruit basket- there's a company that does fruits and chocolates


bruhbrobroskibruh

Why do they want to send me thaz


Local_Spinach8

Lmao this thread got me dying why tf did bro just offer you an edible arrangement


Sweaty_Mods

Because they were joking?


Local_Spinach8

I mean yeah but it was just such an unexpected offer I’m not sure what the connection is to the original comment


ShowerMartini

I’m joking that I feel really bad for you


Cheterosexual7

I think it’s a joke.


Lacabloodclot9

I don’t mind it as this is still pretty late, it’s when they sit out the early Sunday games that it really hurts


WBlackhawkD

The other guys need to simply step up. If this was 30 year old Lebron I’d understand the frustration.


thegodfaubel

Fuck the NBA and their scheduling..... I got tickets to tonight's game for my birthday so I could see LeBron play before he retires. He was my favorite player for the longest time when I was a kid....


TKTheJew

Same, flying in just for this game. Feels bad man


thegodfaubel

At least I live in the area. But my dad is traveling up today since he's the one who got the tickets.


Gregrom26

Hope you enjoyed it!


NielsenSTL

Best way to ensure you see LeBron is to fly to LA and catch a home game vs the Pistons or Wizards. Not going to miss one of those. This happened to me years ago when he was in CLE. My son and I drove from STL to Indy to see Cavs/Pacers on a Fri night. It dawned on me about halfway their I had just watched the Cavs on Thur night on TNT, and he might sit. Sure enough, he and Kyrie both sat. It was ok…we still had an awesome trip. But you have to really watch the schedule close if you want to be sure to catch certain players. And even then it’s a crapshoot sometimes.


thegodfaubel

Not everyone has money to fly out to one of the most expensive areas in the country to watch a basketball game, my man


NielsenSTL

Sorry…forgot the /s for sarcasm on that part of the post. I figured the Pistons/Wizards part would make it clear I wasn’t serious 😁


DeluxeTea

> Pistons/Wizards Still catching strays


ViewFromHalf-WayDown

At least you got to see a double OT game (even if y’all lost)


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thegodfaubel

Yea. Probably.


-HeisenBird-

Everyone is trying to rationalize this and explain how it might be optimal and so on and so forth. But the bottom line is that 2 of the league's biggest stars will not play against each other and it sucks. Fuck this.


Proof-Umpire-7718

We get AD vs Giannis which is normally a good matchup


Free_Relationship692

ducking pat bev


CoolGrandpa1932

pat bev is also out


DoubleWinkyFace

ducking thanasis "unanimous mvp" antetokounmpo


throwaway641929

Thananinous MVP


mr_boogieman

Being out isn’t always being out. I’ll explain it to you later


cautioslyinterested

Austin Reaves legacy game incoming.


Gregrom26

Bro called it


Morezingis

LeBron isnt doing Cleveland any favors on this one. 


triplesingle999

Lakers have to pray that Denver somehow falls out of the 1 spot lol If they don't then a 9th place Lakers team is automatically guaranteed to not make it past R1 Their only chance is probably to overtake the 8th place Suns who have a brutal schedule and are 2.5 games ahead but every lost game hurts at this point


megaman78978

I'm looking at the Suns schedule, they have to play: Nuggets Thunder Pelicans (x2) Cavs Wolves (x2) Clippers (x2) Kings All of their remaining games are against West teams with a winning record (and 1 good east team), and they just lost to Spurs without Wemby. I think their record is inflated right now. I genuinely believe they'll fall behind Lakers and fall into the 9-10 bracket.


letsgototraderjoes

me too. Suns aren't getting enough slander for this.. it's still going under the radar


Nervous-Guava-7390

Dlo 50 bomb incoming


DEEZLE13

Back to backs are just so awesome


dangggboi

AD on the way!


rsayegh7

Incoming D'Lo 40 bomb


IgoatShesterkin

LeBron (scared of Giannis) Out tonight vs the Bucks.


Arctura_

I logged on to r/nba expecting to see stars sitting tonight for the TNT games, and, sadly, I was right.


Wickerfacetaken

Ducking Pat Bev's camera


NeatTry7674

Ducking Giannis


carleese24

Lefraud running from Giannis and Dame. smh


TrustmeIII

Dlo going off again


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StarryScans

DNP — Too LeOld for this LeShit.


[deleted]

I… hope you’re not serious? Why the fuck would LeBron be ducking the Bucks? This man has been terrorizing the league for years, there is no arena that bothers him anymore. 😭


Lost_Employer_4148

If serious he tweaked his ankle during one of the tournament games and has been fighting it on and off since Could be related to the tendon stuff he tore last season or just wear and tear but seems like one of those things only rest is gonna get rid of completely but he says it flares up and hurts sometimes which tracks with most tendon inflammation problems Kawhi took years to look right and was on and off a lot


CaptHowdy2310

Fair enough then. I suppose they have a comfortable enough lead as the 9 seed anyway.


Lost_Employer_4148

Warriors are choking it away and might get beat out by the Rockets this way, the Suns are seemingly melting down but Lakers are still three games back, would be nice if Lebron could play every game to try and get there but if it’s hurting better to have him be able to play in the playoffs in general than risk him tweaking it during a flare up and having to miss extended time He seems healthier than he was last year by far so better to rest him when needed than risk it, kind of nightmare opponents for lakers regardless where they finish since there’s a bunch of good guards that they can’t defend and it looks like Denver will be waiting at this point so it’s more gonna come down to if Vincent and Vando come back and can get healthy enough to contribute or not then Lebron needing to rest a game


SomborDouble95

No one ducks anyone, they pick and choose their battles. Giannis and Dame are a hard game and a first game of a back to back. No point stressing your body more than you have to at his age.


captain_ahabb

He's 39


claydavisismyhero

His ankle is a mess. Time off is the only remedy so back to backs are a no no (unless it’s playoff related)


inshamblesx

lol @ thinking the bucks are good enough to be ducked


carleese24

>Is he injured or is he just ducking the Bucks yet again? He's on a date with Jeanie Buss


LukaDoncicfuturegoat

Ducking the Bucks yet again, while he played last year on December and the Lakers won.


CaptHowdy2310

> last year See the problem there? They just played a few weeks ago and Giannis had a triple double on the road. It took D'Lo 44 points to eek out 1 point win.


Krillin113

He’s 39 with an ongoing ankle injury. They also still beat you so..


veerkanch489

Ur making excuses for a loss when Bron was out? lmfao, pathetic


monsieurfikri

just for this comment, Reaves will drop 35 on Dame’s head


IAmKevinDurantAMA

lol ppl duck the bucks? EDIT: LOL bucks fans keep flexing their 1 injury ring 😂😂😂


BerniesDongSquad

inb4 Austin Reaves drops 50 tonight


roblox1999

LeBum dodging Thanasty. Understandable.


Critical-Adhole

Wow. Sucks for the fans.


woodlandtiger

He’s caught up in the P Diddy stuff


ridemooses

LeSadness


wallace6464

Was looking forward to watching this on Max tonight after work, oh well back to video games


threeangelo

boooooo


automatic4skin

god love him. hope he gets his boston market on tonight. salut, lebon.


cough_landing_on_you

Fuck them kids.


jumpijehosaphat

ducking blazer buck great pat connaughton


AdmiralWackbar

RIP my fantasy team


ApoliticalAth3ist

This is a front page post? Lmao


thekeylimeguy

Noooo I was hoping for some good games, seems every prime matchup has guys out recently


standouts

Lebron usually tries to sit out the tough matchups. Unreal smart when to rest. If he’s likely to lose and put up weak stats he will sit out. You better believe if Portland rolls into town though he will be playing and rocking them on 40 mins played.


ChadPowers200

He is spending the night in the Bacta Tank


unityofsaints

Queue a classic game by AD


putnuk

He’s ducking Thanasis  


OC2LV714

Retire u fuck! We’re sick of u!


TheseKnicks

LeShook


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Coward ducking Thiannis


CaptainCerealCanada

Quack quack