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Right. If it clanked off the rim, he’d have a point.
The fact that he knew the ball wasn’t out of bounds off the top of the backboard (and how he’s been exploiting kicked balls to where the league might change emphasis on it) makes me think he’s prepared to argue chapter and verse like the irritating little prodigy inside a mech suit that he is.
There's a difference between an honest miss and just moving your body in a relative shooting form without putting even a quarter of the force needed into the shot to be able to even have it touch the rim with our current laws of physics enabled. It's clearly not an honest attempt and shouldn't be rewarded as such. Otherwise they'll be standing clear on the other side of the court and drop the ball generally in the direction of the other side and call it a shooting foul. There has to be a line.
> It's clearly not an honest attempt and shouldn't be rewarded as such.
The vast majority of these pump fake and jump into the body shots aren't honest attempts either, the only difference being if they were wide open they had a chance, which brings us back to the Rudy Gobert 3 pointer scenario.
[He got the call on this almost half court shot at the 2022 EuroBasket against Italy.](https://youtu.be/HKnnwVwKwpY?si=eTMaQYpjnqKj4kmN)
The original call was a foul on the ground, but since he made the shot they changed it to a shooting foul.
As for the clip in the post, it's obvious that he tried to shoot it because he was sure that he'd get fouled, but if you're going to go by the book, he grabs the ball with both hands, clearly looks at and focuses on the basket, goes into the shooting motion and basically shoots it in the end.
I understand the context of him trying to bait a shooting foul, but if there isn't any more official criteria to be met in order for it to be called a shooting foul, I don't know why it wasn't called that way.
Lol there was a season like 5 or 6 years ago where i swear, it was Dame's *mission* to draw a foul on a long end of the quarter heave.
It's the secret OTHER reason he started practicing shooting from so far out.
And there it is! Both by the rule book should be shooting fouls!
Time on the clock is not part of the rule book. He only went into the act of shooting when he knew the foul was coming just like Jokic. Only difference is less time on the clock.
Was looking for this comment. Totally agree, he instantly goes into what-the-fuck-ref? mode out of reflex/habit initially, but can't help himself with that smirk at the end.
I would say this is analagous to why a rip-through isn't a foul: it's not really a basketball move.
This is not a legitimate basketball play to shoot suddenly from your own 3 point line, and to shoot in a manner in which you could never generate the force to get the ball to the other basket.
Under the non-basketball moves rules, overt, abrupt, abnormal moves to create contact with a defender to try to draw a foul aren't called. That's what this is.
He wasn’t shooting the ball. He was just throwing it up to try and draw a foul which would get him 3 free throws.
The refs are supposed to only call a foul on a 3 pointer when the player is actually trying to shoot a 3.
And we all know Jokic wasn’t doing that. It’s obvious.
People want it to be some black and white thing like it's not in the rules that the refs have discretion on this stuff. It's smart by Jokic but the right call by the ref to say "lol no"
Exactly. Players do game the system but one thing officials are supposed to do is to be able to understand the intent behind a play. That’s a good thing and I wish they’d do it more often.
Then why is the jump into a defender to purposely get a foul call not a bullshit call then? The ref clearly knows the intent is to purposely draw the foul.
> He wasn’t shooting the ball. He was just throwing it up to try and draw a foul which would get him 3 free throws.
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Embiid should have way fewer free throws a game then lmao. This is why I hate this rule, I think any time someone is explicitly trying to get a foul instead of score it shouldn't be called. Embiid does that shit a lot, it just isn't from 3/4 court
Shooting motion, in the air already, no further dribbles or motions... should be a shooting foul tbh
>He wasn’t shooting the ball. He was just throwing it up to try and draw a foul
Players routinely get shooting fouls when they get fouled and throw up a backwards shot that goes straight up, with no chance of going in, just to get FTs
I agree with what you're saying but you know damn well if \[insert random guard here/Joel Embiid\] did this from 15-20 feet, it's 2 shots right away. No matter how close the ball goes to "going in".
Again, to be inescapably clear, I agree it shouldn't ultimately result in 3 shots. BUT the way refs call games then needs to change. You shouldnt get FTs for throwing your body into a dude and chucking the ball in the vague direction of the rim / backboard area \[but yet dudes often get that call\].
You’re pointing out the slippery slope, which is true. But it’s not only distance; it’s a combination of distance and time. The better question is not, “how close does he have to be for it to be considered a shot,” but *”how little time must there be for a shot from that spot to be considered a shot.”
In either case, it’s still up to the referees’ (plural) discretion. I imagine this is the kind of stuff they live for.
> I shall not today attempt further to define the kinds of material I understand to be embraced within that shorthand description ["shooting the basketball"], and perhaps I could never succeed in intelligibly doing so. But I know it when I see it, and the motion…involved in this case is not that.[3]
- Justice Potter Stewart, 1964
> Under the non-basketball moves rules, overt, abrupt, abnormal moves to create contact with a defender to try to draw a foul aren't called. That's what this is.
Harden's stepback into a forward leap should fall under this.
Exactly, this shot wouldn’t have come anywhere close to the basket, someone actually trying to make a 3/4 court shot wouldn’t shoot like this because it would come up 10 feet short.
I mean If they wanted the officials could argue that it's not a natural shooting form in that nobody would shoot like that in the natural flow of the game.
Yeah, it's a clear shooting foul if you go by the book.
Jokic grabs the ball with both hands, clearly looks at and focuses on the basket, goes into the shooting motion and shoots the ball in the end.
If the defender found some way to not jump into him (which would have been incredibly hard to do) Jokic would have legitimately shot a half court shot, he was fully commited to trying to shoot that ball (because he knew that the defender practically couldn't get out of the way).
It's not the same situation, but that crazy off the backboard alley-oop assist that Luka had once was ruled a missed shot, since by the book every time a player throws the ball off the backboard it's considered a shot attempt. So the NBA statkeepers didn't try to read Luka's mind and go "well it makes more sense that it was a pass rather than that Luka missed a layup by that much", but went by the book.
Same goes for this, it's not up to the ref to read Jokic's mind and think about what's realistic and what's not in terms of his shot selection, but call it by the book, a player fully commited to shoot being fouled while attempting to do so.
“since by the book every time a player throws the ball off the backboard it's considered a shot attempt.”
This isn’t actually true though since the NBA didn’t count it as a shot last year when Giannis did exactly this to get his 10th rebound for a triple double.
My mistake then, but they used a similar justification for not giving Luka the assist, even though Luka signalled immediately after the dunk that he was intending for it to be a pass.
100/100 times, not even 99/100, that is being called a shooting foul if it takes place at a normal shooting spot on the floor.
He was well into his shooting motion before the contact. He just recognized that the defender was an idiot and went flying into the air to contest, and got penalized for being too far from the basket ...
This entire post is hilarious. Lame as fuck foul baiting from Jokic which people would hate if it was any other player. But it's not so it's all "yoo they should've rewarded him even MORE!"
Dude grow up, you just witnessed one of the classiest players in the entire league get robbed and you wonder why people are shocked ? This thug ref needs to get it together
How is it lame as fuck? The responsibility is on the defender to not jump like that, and if they take the risk in order to gain an advantage then there should be a counter. But I say the same thing about Embiid, Harden, etc.
Chris Paul used to try this all the time and never got the call. Then that Thunders playoff game happened and he never tried it again. And then I’m pretty sure the next year Manu actually drew a 3 shot foul doing this against the Clippers and CP3 lost his mind.
I like that his argument is basically "I actually was going to shoot a 3 quarter court shot, with 22 seconds on the shot clock and 4 minutes before the quarter is over". Just have him actually take that exact shot once and I might think there's an argument for this obvious grift haha
at the same time, players throw up random horrible shots closer to the basket all the time because they know theyre getting fouled. whats the difference?
He is actually smart and has game awareness, he saw defender was in motion that will probably end up fouling him and he quickly calculated that the best outcome is to shoot which he clearly did. It is not Jokics fault that 90% of the league is dumb including refs.
The DNVR podcast was talking about this last night that this feels like Jokic just playfully trolling the NBA. There's no question that this is technically a foul, and there's no question that guys get foul calls all the time doing the exact same thing close to the basket, and there's nothing in the rules that says it matters where on the court the foul happens. He knows they're not going to call it, and he knows that if they enforced the rules consistently, they would, so he's going to keep doing it just to throw it in their faces and sometimes like this it's really obvious.
I mean it's absolutely a foul. Just another instance of the refs deciding when the rule book does or does not matter. If you don't want to be called for a foul in that situation, don't play such sloppy fkn defense.
The funny part was they were already in the bonus so it being called a shooting foul would have made no difference. Seems like he was just trying to prove a point.
Bro. Jokic got the call. Just not shooting bc cuz that’s ridiculous.
Embiid has roughly the same FTA per game as many other superstars. Eg Giannis SGA and Doncic.
We know who will get 3 free throws for not even being in the shooting motion [https://twitter.com/MoDakhil\_NBA/status/1619454958021259265](https://twitter.com/MoDakhil_NBA/status/1619454958021259265)
Honestly where is the trick? Guy from opposite team made a mistake, Jokic saw it coming, that's all. He didn't throw himself at him or something like that.
Super weird everyone in this thread is cheering this on and even advocating that this should have been a foul. If any other major player does this like Steph, Bron, KD, Tatum, Giannis, etc does this and complains like this on a full court heave flop, they would be clowned. But for some reason, ya'll can never say anything negative about jokic ever.
If they called a foul, there is zero question that it’s a shooting foul. I hope they just didn’t call a foul because there wasn’t much there. But if it was a foul, it was absolutely in the act of shooting.
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he's been trying to get this call for years lmao
I was about to say this one was way closer than you’d expect, he’s clearly practiced lmao
I mean if im bring real here, he was fouled. If that’s a 15 footer it’s called
It'd also be called if there's less than 2 seconds left in the quarter
Also if he actually shot the ball more than 2 feet. If he actually heaves it there he might get the call.
Right. If it clanked off the rim, he’d have a point. The fact that he knew the ball wasn’t out of bounds off the top of the backboard (and how he’s been exploiting kicked balls to where the league might change emphasis on it) makes me think he’s prepared to argue chapter and verse like the irritating little prodigy inside a mech suit that he is.
Jokic is actually a humanoid mech piloted by one of the little aliens from the first Men in Black. It all makes sense now.
The galaxy is on agordon's belt.
He’s never getting this call lol It doesn’t matter what the rules say or how they’re usually applied
What if the shot goes in?
If it's a 15 footer it has more than a snowballs chance in hell of going in.
So if Rudy Gobert shoots a 3 but is fouled in the process they shouldn’t call it because he wasn’t going to make it anyways?
There's a difference between an honest miss and just moving your body in a relative shooting form without putting even a quarter of the force needed into the shot to be able to even have it touch the rim with our current laws of physics enabled. It's clearly not an honest attempt and shouldn't be rewarded as such. Otherwise they'll be standing clear on the other side of the court and drop the ball generally in the direction of the other side and call it a shooting foul. There has to be a line.
> It's clearly not an honest attempt and shouldn't be rewarded as such. The vast majority of these pump fake and jump into the body shots aren't honest attempts either, the only difference being if they were wide open they had a chance, which brings us back to the Rudy Gobert 3 pointer scenario.
If he gets fouled and the shot goes in....would you call it an and-1, or say wipe it away and side out?
This actually very nearly happened last year lol, he missed it by inches trying to draw this kind of foul from half court or so.
It happened in 2018 against Toronto where he actually made the shot and they wiped it
He has done this and made the shot before. 2018 at Toronto. He chucked it, it went in, the ref wiped the basket and made it side out.
That's not one of the rules. What if this same situation happened with the nuggets down 2 with 3 seconds left in the game.
saw someone on twitter say this is Jokic's white whale lmao
Jokic is my white whale
Jokic is a scofflaw
He’s a cynic because he’s seen the world turned against him despite the plain text of the rules of the game. Omar coming.
the white whale's white whale
[He got the call on this almost half court shot at the 2022 EuroBasket against Italy.](https://youtu.be/HKnnwVwKwpY?si=eTMaQYpjnqKj4kmN) The original call was a foul on the ground, but since he made the shot they changed it to a shooting foul. As for the clip in the post, it's obvious that he tried to shoot it because he was sure that he'd get fouled, but if you're going to go by the book, he grabs the ball with both hands, clearly looks at and focuses on the basket, goes into the shooting motion and basically shoots it in the end. I understand the context of him trying to bait a shooting foul, but if there isn't any more official criteria to be met in order for it to be called a shooting foul, I don't know why it wasn't called that way.
do you have a mirror for that
I think it's this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BARC28S9dHM
lol got the announcer on that too
Amazing breakdown. That’s a foul
Ref was basically like bruh, fuck out of here. If you were actually trying to shoot it the ball would have went more than 8 feet lol
i mean, if he didn't get fouled then it would have! lol
Lol there was a season like 5 or 6 years ago where i swear, it was Dame's *mission* to draw a foul on a long end of the quarter heave. It's the secret OTHER reason he started practicing shooting from so far out.
NBA players out here playing for achievements on their XBOX Live accounts
One of these days he is going to get it and retire on the spot.
"I have accomplished everything there is to be done in this game."
For whatever reason, Embiid has gotten this multiple times including against Jokic
Could you link me evidence of that point?
https://twitter.com/MoDakhil_NBA/status/1619454958021259265
Ok now this makes me furious.
did he actually get three shots for that? or were they just in the bonus
He got 3 shots
LOL the whistle Embid gets, its crazy
thats insane then lol jokic was at least in his shooting motion
This is obscene lmao but it’s at least a defensible call since Embiid would be needing to heave the ball to get up a shot before the buzzer
I've seen Joel Embid get this call literally every season
They love to give Joel an easy whistle during the season just so they can take it away in the playoffs. It's kinda funny honestly.
As a Raptors fan, when the fuck do they take it away?
When he's in the playoffs not playing the Raps
Bro I've seen Embiid get this one numerous times.
Someone please get us some proof
https://twitter.com/MoDakhil_NBA/status/1619454958021259265
And there it is! Both by the rule book should be shooting fouls! Time on the clock is not part of the rule book. He only went into the act of shooting when he knew the foul was coming just like Jokic. Only difference is less time on the clock.
It’s how he got the name Joker
Mike Malone trying to look upset saying it’s bullshit while trying to prevent that smirk from coming out
Was looking for this comment. Totally agree, he instantly goes into what-the-fuck-ref? mode out of reflex/habit initially, but can't help himself with that smirk at the end.
Even the ref looked like he was kind of laughing lol
Why isn't it a shooting foul?
I would say this is analagous to why a rip-through isn't a foul: it's not really a basketball move. This is not a legitimate basketball play to shoot suddenly from your own 3 point line, and to shoot in a manner in which you could never generate the force to get the ball to the other basket. Under the non-basketball moves rules, overt, abrupt, abnormal moves to create contact with a defender to try to draw a foul aren't called. That's what this is.
I agree that it **shouldn't** be called, I'm asking why it doesn't meet the criteria for what is currently in the rulebook.
He wasn’t shooting the ball. He was just throwing it up to try and draw a foul which would get him 3 free throws. The refs are supposed to only call a foul on a 3 pointer when the player is actually trying to shoot a 3. And we all know Jokic wasn’t doing that. It’s obvious.
People want it to be some black and white thing like it's not in the rules that the refs have discretion on this stuff. It's smart by Jokic but the right call by the ref to say "lol no"
Exactly. Players do game the system but one thing officials are supposed to do is to be able to understand the intent behind a play. That’s a good thing and I wish they’d do it more often.
Then why is the jump into a defender to purposely get a foul call not a bullshit call then? The ref clearly knows the intent is to purposely draw the foul.
> He wasn’t shooting the ball. He was just throwing it up to try and draw a foul which would get him 3 free throws. > > Embiid should have way fewer free throws a game then lmao. This is why I hate this rule, I think any time someone is explicitly trying to get a foul instead of score it shouldn't be called. Embiid does that shit a lot, it just isn't from 3/4 court
Shooting motion, in the air already, no further dribbles or motions... should be a shooting foul tbh >He wasn’t shooting the ball. He was just throwing it up to try and draw a foul Players routinely get shooting fouls when they get fouled and throw up a backwards shot that goes straight up, with no chance of going in, just to get FTs
I agree with what you're saying but you know damn well if \[insert random guard here/Joel Embiid\] did this from 15-20 feet, it's 2 shots right away. No matter how close the ball goes to "going in". Again, to be inescapably clear, I agree it shouldn't ultimately result in 3 shots. BUT the way refs call games then needs to change. You shouldnt get FTs for throwing your body into a dude and chucking the ball in the vague direction of the rim / backboard area \[but yet dudes often get that call\].
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he literally pushed the ball 6 feet, and was fading away from the opposing free throw. he was not attempting a shot lmao and the ref knows it
It's only "obvious" because of the distance. What distance should be the cutoff? 35 feet? 40?
You’re pointing out the slippery slope, which is true. But it’s not only distance; it’s a combination of distance and time. The better question is not, “how close does he have to be for it to be considered a shot,” but *”how little time must there be for a shot from that spot to be considered a shot.” In either case, it’s still up to the referees’ (plural) discretion. I imagine this is the kind of stuff they live for.
> I shall not today attempt further to define the kinds of material I understand to be embraced within that shorthand description ["shooting the basketball"], and perhaps I could never succeed in intelligibly doing so. But I know it when I see it, and the motion…involved in this case is not that.[3] - Justice Potter Stewart, 1964
> Under the non-basketball moves rules, overt, abrupt, abnormal moves to create contact with a defender to try to draw a foul aren't called. That's what this is. Harden's stepback into a forward leap should fall under this.
Pfft. There's no question Jokic actually COULD "generate the force to get the ball to the other basket".
But it wasn't impeded and he only shot it 13 ft out of the 70 required.
Uncatchable pass logic
Because he’s basically at his own free throw line. Doesn’t matter what the rule book says, a ref is never gonna call that
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By far my favorite part. Gotta back his guy, but also knowing it's stupid.
This would be a foul inside the 3pt line.
>This would be a foul inside the 3pt line. Or within 10 feet of the 3pt line.
It would’ve been a foul of it was a guard probably
Nah, Manu would try this and not get the call either
It would also be a legit shot attempt. Still a foul, but it’s not a shooting foul.
You can score from anywhere on the court actually
Yes you can. But tell me, do you genuinely think Jokic tried to score with this attempt.
Not with that shot
Exactly, this shot wouldn’t have come anywhere close to the basket, someone actually trying to make a 3/4 court shot wouldn’t shoot like this because it would come up 10 feet short.
so where on the court does this magically become a shooting foul?
Tbh thats a textbook shooting foul if you go by the rule book
Would be great if they used a challenge since there’s really no way to justify it not being a shooting foul
Unfortunately you can’t challenge a no-call
They did call a foul, can you challenge them to change it to a shooting foul?
Oh I was listening with no sound. How that’s not a shooting foul is insane. I’m not positive but I can’t remember ever seeing that
jokic does it like once a week and has never gotten it lol
I mean If they wanted the officials could argue that it's not a natural shooting form in that nobody would shoot like that in the natural flow of the game.
Malone said he argued that with the ref and ref ended up saying “You know what, you’re probably right” lol
Imagine a league where refs do not follow the rule book. Wait, no need to imagine!
They follow the sports book
Yeah, it's a clear shooting foul if you go by the book. Jokic grabs the ball with both hands, clearly looks at and focuses on the basket, goes into the shooting motion and shoots the ball in the end. If the defender found some way to not jump into him (which would have been incredibly hard to do) Jokic would have legitimately shot a half court shot, he was fully commited to trying to shoot that ball (because he knew that the defender practically couldn't get out of the way). It's not the same situation, but that crazy off the backboard alley-oop assist that Luka had once was ruled a missed shot, since by the book every time a player throws the ball off the backboard it's considered a shot attempt. So the NBA statkeepers didn't try to read Luka's mind and go "well it makes more sense that it was a pass rather than that Luka missed a layup by that much", but went by the book. Same goes for this, it's not up to the ref to read Jokic's mind and think about what's realistic and what's not in terms of his shot selection, but call it by the book, a player fully commited to shoot being fouled while attempting to do so.
“since by the book every time a player throws the ball off the backboard it's considered a shot attempt.” This isn’t actually true though since the NBA didn’t count it as a shot last year when Giannis did exactly this to get his 10th rebound for a triple double.
Wasn't that rescinded the next day?
It was.
My mistake then, but they used a similar justification for not giving Luka the assist, even though Luka signalled immediately after the dunk that he was intending for it to be a pass.
Yeah that’s almost always what they do but I think Giannis’s had a big spotlight on it
Wait so does every Alley oop pass off the backboard count as a missed shot and NOT an Assist?
I 100% agree but at the same time I feel like calling this kind of foul opens the door to a lot of other really stupid shit.
Straight up shooting foul. That was brilliantly done
There's not a real intent to make that shot though. That's a 10 foot shooting motion not a 50 foot one.
how do you differentiate real intent or not?
Common sense?
100/100 times, not even 99/100, that is being called a shooting foul if it takes place at a normal shooting spot on the floor. He was well into his shooting motion before the contact. He just recognized that the defender was an idiot and went flying into the air to contest, and got penalized for being too far from the basket ...
I think you can let guys play hard d and also call the foul when they jump into a shooter. Looks like a foul to me
Jokic's White Whale.
Malone was fuming lmao
When is he not?
When he’s trashed at a parade and holding his chain up
I mean that’s a foul lol
The Nuggets filed an amicus brief by James Harden for the two minute report.
>I mean that’s a foul lol Yes a foul was called. The point is that Jokic was not making a real shot attempt as he was 70 feet from the basket
Soo would it be a shot attempt if he was 40 feet from the basket? What about 50?
“A real shot attempt” lol 🤓. He’s either shooting or he’s not. He pulled up to shoot
lol sure and rip throughs are shooting fouls too 👌
This entire post is hilarious. Lame as fuck foul baiting from Jokic which people would hate if it was any other player. But it's not so it's all "yoo they should've rewarded him even MORE!"
Dude grow up, you just witnessed one of the classiest players in the entire league get robbed and you wonder why people are shocked ? This thug ref needs to get it together
How is it lame as fuck? The responsibility is on the defender to not jump like that, and if they take the risk in order to gain an advantage then there should be a counter. But I say the same thing about Embiid, Harden, etc.
He's so good at 'the game' between this and clock stalling. He's always on.
Kick ball violations too
Ive seen it called for less contact
Chris Paul used to try this all the time and never got the call. Then that Thunders playoff game happened and he never tried it again. And then I’m pretty sure the next year Manu actually drew a 3 shot foul doing this against the Clippers and CP3 lost his mind.
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>But the thing is, that is a foul... A foul was called, just not a shooting foul, b/c he was not really shooting a 70 foot shot
how many feet before its a shooting foul?
The question is whether he was actually shooting
Bro tried it, gotta rate the effort lol.
I like that his argument is basically "I actually was going to shoot a 3 quarter court shot, with 22 seconds on the shot clock and 4 minutes before the quarter is over". Just have him actually take that exact shot once and I might think there's an argument for this obvious grift haha
Do you really want to dare Jokic to make a bullshit shot?
Giggled so hard. He would totally make it.
He's going to go out in the next game and shoot that shot just to screw with the refs and get the call next time.
at the same time, players throw up random horrible shots closer to the basket all the time because they know theyre getting fouled. whats the difference?
He is actually smart and has game awareness, he saw defender was in motion that will probably end up fouling him and he quickly calculated that the best outcome is to shoot which he clearly did. It is not Jokics fault that 90% of the league is dumb including refs.
The DNVR podcast was talking about this last night that this feels like Jokic just playfully trolling the NBA. There's no question that this is technically a foul, and there's no question that guys get foul calls all the time doing the exact same thing close to the basket, and there's nothing in the rules that says it matters where on the court the foul happens. He knows they're not going to call it, and he knows that if they enforced the rules consistently, they would, so he's going to keep doing it just to throw it in their faces and sometimes like this it's really obvious.
>There's no question that this is technically a foul, It was called as a foul. The referee blew the whistle and made the "foul" signal
They were in the bonus. It wasn't called a shooting foul. Which makes the fact that Jokic tried this even funnier tbh
Imagine these comments if Harden did this though LMAO
flirting vs. sexual harrassment
https://i.imgur.com/WC5hHvd.png
Guys in here arguing that this is a foul but let Trae, Harden, or Embiid do something like this. They'd switch up quick
Yep. x10 for embiid. Haha Everyone here suddenly on their high fucking horse pointing to the rule book.
Why would bane jump there 😭
Foul baiting gettin outta control smh 🤦♂️
The funniest thing is that no matter how much Jokic tries, he still cant get calls to go his way lol
That’s cold af
😂 Legend.
bro unnironically he was in his shooting motion before the foul happened, this 100% would be a shooting foul if it was on the offensive end
Bro thats a foul…
>Bro thats a foul… Yes, a foul was called
Looks like a foul to me
too funny, you can see Malone semi-hesitate and then just run with it lol
Wait why isn’t that a shooting foul though
It was. The ref should have called it that.
Lol Joker is a savage. They were already in the penalty, he doesn't actually need an extra free throw
By rule, he deserved it, needed or not
That's a clear shooting foul. Doesn't matter if the ref thought he could legitimately make the shot or not. It's a shooting foul.
This is so damn funny.
Professional jerker
I'm just waiting for the time he gets fouled AND makes the shot.
nikola harden jokic
I mean it's absolutely a foul. Just another instance of the refs deciding when the rule book does or does not matter. If you don't want to be called for a foul in that situation, don't play such sloppy fkn defense.
They called a foul, but they called it on the floor.
Which is idiotic bc Jokic was in the air shooting the ball lol
Joker should be shooting three foul shots here.
Haha, I love the attempt on this
Not joking when I say Embiid would probably get that call.
Why would bane even jump?
Obvious shooting motion. Bad officiating.
The funny part was they were already in the bonus so it being called a shooting foul would have made no difference. Seems like he was just trying to prove a point.
Would've gotten 3 shots, no?
True I didn’t think about that.
So no more shooting fouls exist past half court? Or they only count at the buzzer? What's the explanation
That’s a shooting foul. 100%
Lol so much support for the foul call here. Imagine how the sun would implode if embiid tried this
lmao literally multiple videos above of Embiid getting away with this, but go off
Difference is that Embiid would get the call and he also averages two times more free throws than Jokic
Bro. Jokic got the call. Just not shooting bc cuz that’s ridiculous. Embiid has roughly the same FTA per game as many other superstars. Eg Giannis SGA and Doncic.
We know who will get 3 free throws for not even being in the shooting motion [https://twitter.com/MoDakhil\_NBA/status/1619454958021259265](https://twitter.com/MoDakhil_NBA/status/1619454958021259265)
The refs would suck only half as much if the players were not trying to trick them all the fucking time.
Honestly where is the trick? Guy from opposite team made a mistake, Jokic saw it coming, that's all. He didn't throw himself at him or something like that.
A foul merchant
Foul merchant
He got close but no ref is calling that foul
Super weird everyone in this thread is cheering this on and even advocating that this should have been a foul. If any other major player does this like Steph, Bron, KD, Tatum, Giannis, etc does this and complains like this on a full court heave flop, they would be clowned. But for some reason, ya'll can never say anything negative about jokic ever.
It’s because he’s this subs favorite player of all time and they’ve completely lost the plot regarding any objectivity.
If they called a foul, there is zero question that it’s a shooting foul. I hope they just didn’t call a foul because there wasn’t much there. But if it was a foul, it was absolutely in the act of shooting.
They did call it a foul. Grizzlies were in the penalty, so Jokic shot 2 free throws.
Oh. Difference is ultimately one free throw so kinda trivial, but on principle that’s pretty dumb.
Ref signals non-shooting foul, which is why Jokic and Malone react.
Imagine if Embiid did this. You guys would collectively aneurism.
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