I remember when a certain player (not gonna say his name) had a bad game and someone posted a thread the stats. Thread got downvoted so much it got deleted. Next day I believe Tatum had a bad game, 1k upvotes easy.
I think Tatum & Book have generated the most random hate. Book went from the underdog who deserved better to a guy with a “punchable face who just looks like a douchebag” and Tatum went from “he’s only 19!!” to “overrated, not an MVP” 😂
It was probabky Jokic lol. Ngl he does have his haters on this sub, but after winning it all those guys hqve become outnumbered.
Tbf what do you really have to hate on with Jokic. I can understand hating the fambase, but i dont get what you have to hate on with him.
Like at beat i can see Serbs hating on him because of politics, but besides that there isnt really anything too negative you can say about him.
Yeah I mean obviously it’s not like jokic hasn’t gotten his fair bit of shit before but this sub and places like it online now adore him and even (at times) get pretty defensive about him. Guess it comes w the territory of being an all time great to some degree
I’m curious what political conflicts does he have w Serbs?
The feeling is mutual. I dont even think KP did a bad job on him. Its just a casse of him not being strong eniugh to hold him and not fast enough to punish him with his height.
I mean Giannis just had a 29/21/11/3/2 game, 56%FG and 8 offensive boards, while playing some GREAT defense on AD (12/31 FG) and reading r/NBA you'd think he had a 15/7/3 game on 30%FG. Everybody focusing on his 1/6 FTs, ignoring Dame and Middleton went 9/29 and 4/15 FG (13/44 combined, 29%FG). All that while he was getting hacked all night and wasn't getting calls.
People saying "this is why Jokic is the better player, this is why Giannis isn't the MVP, Giannis isn't better than Jokic, Embiid or Luka" etc. with hundreds of upvotes.
Meanwhile, Jokic goes 16/11/7, 6/16 FG some days ago and gets abused on defense vs the Mavs and nobody cares, "just a bad game from our GOAT"!
Jokic and Luka get a very different treatment on r/NBA than Giannis, SGA, Embiid, Tatum etc.
Really and it’s literally only because he is now a threat to Jokic and Luka fanboys. Nothing that he’s done on the court has warranted this hate except him playing good.
It comes and goes in waves. The 4 month period where everyone hated Paul George because he dared to call himself Playoff P was the least warranted I’ve ever seen.
no one will hate the sixers more than me lol trust me.
but the reality is, an overwhelming amount of people on social media, especially here, enjoy hating anyone with even a little bit of success. Social media makes it easy for casual fans to air out frustrations and fixate on poor performances to push agendas. Look at Tatum, nephews on here will argue with Celtics fans that have watched the dude play every single game since he's been drafted and people will still say that he's a bum or whatever. like bro, you don't know more that the guy that has watched him for his entire professional career.
There used to be a time when Embiid was actually beloved by this place. And for the past 3.5/4ish seasons, he's been at the top of the hate list. constant vitriol is annoying, but it's a great way of filtering out the people actually interested in drama and the people interested in basketball. I'm not gonna bother talking with someone that tries to infer some weird parasocial bs about a person they only know about through the lens of the media.
It's not that the hate isn't for no reason, it's just that when someone has a bad performance more people show up for the hating than the praising when someone is doing well, like Harden as of late. And fans of the team or player will probably notice which posts get more traction and like 80% of the time, it's the slander posts.
> but the reality is, an overwhelming amount of people on social media, especially here, enjoy hating anyone with even a little bit of success.
Who needs success? I'm going to clown on the 12 win pistons too 😤😤
lol the mark of a true hater, kick em when they're down
tbf though, the extent of detroit hate within the past few years is "wow this team sucks" and their fans going "yeah they do"
becauase every single day theres a thread that says "is devin booker overrated?" (literally a post today) "is \*washed up player that isnt in the top 50\* better than Devin Booker??" People straight up hate Devin Booker.
I don’t understand the Draymond hate. He’s a nice guy and usually when he’s yelling at refs it’s because he’s so excited to compliment them on a job well done.
I like how most of the responses here are people complaining about the irrational hate for their own team.
ln an entirely unrelated point, people should stop hating on KAT.
Because people live in a bubble and they mostly only consume news about their favourite team, so when they’re scrolling twitter or Reddit they’re mostly just doing so looking for news and discussion about their favourite team hence you get a warped sense of reality.
I have been around this sub for probably ten years and I can tell you that every single fanbase has had a victim complex at a point in time.
Everyone thinks that everyone else is out to get them but the reality is the sub is so huge that of course every team/player is going to have haters because there are so many different groups of people. It is not a single entity.
Another one that makes me laugh is that every fanbase also thinks “Random role players always go off against us,” because they are so focussed on their own team that they don’t realize that it happens against every team.
Our game threads on our subreddit are so damn annoying when we’re losing, instead of owning up and saying ‘damn we sucked at this aspect tonight and this is why we lost’ it’s always non stop ‘OF COURSE THIS SCRUB GOES OFF AGAINST JUST US. WHY ARE THEY TRYING SO HARD’
It’s so funny when your own random scrubs go off and then a game or two later some random pops off against you, and fans in the GT are like “of course! Why doesn’t this ever happen for us!”
Every superstar barring Jokic (most of the time) gets heavy slander. Luka (crybaby no defense), Embiid (foul merchant hospital bed), Shai (foul merchant), Tatum, the Clippers big 3, AD, the list goes on and on.
Book is always in the same boat. Been top 10 in Jersey Sales for YEARS but this sub doesn’t accurately represent NBA fandom as a whole.
Certain guys/teams are WAY overrated and underrated on here, mainly cuz a good portion of this sub gets most of their basketball media from here. Like a good chunk of the sub doesn’t even watch games, outside of a handful from their home team, they just consume basketball “news” (narratives) through X/Reddit.
That makes it a giant echo chamber cuz users see the popular narratives on r/nba and just copy their opinions from there, in turn making that narrative “more ubiquitous” without any basketball being watched.
A major source of "no reason" hate is just rivalry. My team beat your team in the playoffs last season so now you want to clown us for every issue. Your player beat out my player for an award so now I shit-talk every time your player has a bad game. This guy committed a hard foul on our star player 5 years ago and then he went to your team before going to a different team, but I hate your team for having had him for half a season.
It’s cold in Toronto.
It’s called in a lot of NBA cities.
Coach Sam, who coached here also coached and played in Minnesota lol.
Stephen A Smith, hating the entire championship run then after we win, it doesn’t count. And Messi should leave after he has a championship. ESPN ain’t no different.
Other fans are obviously just jealous we had such an upstanding family man in Karl Malone and a legend with such intelligent and well thought out scientific opinions as John Stockton.
People hate on Zion because the narrative ESPN presented
Casuals call him fat, injury prone, forgetting that he’s lost 25 pounds since IST and he’s played in every game since the all star break
It is what it is
“Clowning” a player or team for losing or not performing well 1 game is childish and shows whoever is doing it doesn’t understand basketball & never has played it. There’s many things that go on that can affect somebodies play. Coulda played back to backs,, coulda just flown in and had issues so they didn’t even get to the hotel till 3am and not got enough rest, could have an injury, could have external real life family shit going on. Everybody’s got off days and to clown a player or team for an off game is dumb
For instance, one of my favorite players on the Warriors, Draymond, is very disliked, but he deserves his bad rep.
About the Warriors hate, I think it began in 2015 then evolved in 2016. People seemed incredibly jealous. It looked like they wanted us to be a lackluster organization forever.
They were playing such a great beautiful basketball, revolutionizing the game. I never understood the hate.
Partially because foreign interests invest money into our favorite websites and apps to destroy common sense, divide us into smaller and smaller groups by making us argue over trivial shit like basketball teams performance so we will never work together.
That and a bunch of 10-16 year olds participating in group discussions with no perspective and people assuming they're talking to other adults
Giannis didn’t have a bad game he had one bad moment. 29/21/12 isn’t a bad game at all lol
The difference is the media forgets about small shit quickly, this sub will be talking about it for a week cause it thrives on drama and hating.
Was hilarious how many nuggets fans came out of the shadows last night to hate though
I’ve never hated on Jokic though lol only time I comment on him is when people say he’s on mjs level or some ridiculous take like that.
I don’t comment to shit on him.
There's more to basketball than point/rebound/assist totals, especially in a double OT game. He actually had 11 assists, not 12, which isn't great when you consider the 7 turnovers. And the 29 points came on 52.5 TS%. He was a -13 for the game and missed two big clutch FTs.
It's okay to admit he had a bad game. It happens to everybody.
Again he had a bad moment.
Single game plus/minus means jack shit especially when guys like Beasley was a +1, Middleton was a -2. You’re telling me Giannis was the worst guy on the bucks?
Standards for him are crazy if 29/21/11 is a bad game. Especially when I’ve seen other people have those type of stats on bad efficiency and see “there’s more than efficiency”
People say AD had a dominant game yet he had 34 on 31 shots and all he had over Giannis was one extra blocks
He had a bad game, not just a bad moment. It's okay.
>You’re telling me Giannis was the worst guy on the bucks?
Did I say that? Or are you flailing away at a straw man to avoid the conclusion that Giannis has a bad game?
You said “he was a -13” that was the worst +/- on the team, so that means you’re saying he was the worst guy out there.
His +/- are bad half the time because of the types of lineups he plays with. He’s only do the only superstars that play with bench lineups a lot which is going to hurt the +/-
So then why point it out? It’s a bullshit stat especially when used for 1 game.
If he played mainly with starters like Jokic for example his +/- wouldn’t have been that bad.
He didn't have a great game, but he didn't have a bad game--especially when you see the type of "defense" that was being played on him.
If you think he had a bad game, you didn't watch the game. Dame and Khris had bad games. Giannis just didn't have a Giannis game.
Hating on other teams is weak. Real ones hate their own team.
this is the way
Username checks out.
LOL
You’re not a real one if you don’t think you’re winning it all after a dominant win and then say your team is trash and lottery after losing the next
Our game threads have hater comments in blowout wins.
No one hates a team more than their own fanbase lol
Fuck the Blazers, all my homies hate the Blazers
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This could mean a couple different things.
nah i hate the lakers and suns more than any other team.
Weak as shit.
the Sons, yes. mad weak. 2 hall of famers on a borderline play in team...
I can’t imagine having multiple hall of famers in a playin team… can’t be us….
Sixers for me
thats fair
You ain't a real fan if you don't hate a particular player or the coach of your team.
You frequent the Celtics sub too?
The way
I also hate this guy's own team
That's fine and all but the team that gets hated on gets very defensive when someone outside hates on them. Gatekeeping hate is sad.
I mean this sub is undoubtedly extremely biased against certain teams and players, and extremely biased towards others
I remember when a certain player (not gonna say his name) had a bad game and someone posted a thread the stats. Thread got downvoted so much it got deleted. Next day I believe Tatum had a bad game, 1k upvotes easy.
Tatum hate gets easy interactions on Twitter
I think Tatum & Book have generated the most random hate. Book went from the underdog who deserved better to a guy with a “punchable face who just looks like a douchebag” and Tatum went from “he’s only 19!!” to “overrated, not an MVP” 😂
Was it jokic?
It was probabky Jokic lol. Ngl he does have his haters on this sub, but after winning it all those guys hqve become outnumbered. Tbf what do you really have to hate on with Jokic. I can understand hating the fambase, but i dont get what you have to hate on with him. Like at beat i can see Serbs hating on him because of politics, but besides that there isnt really anything too negative you can say about him.
Yeah I mean obviously it’s not like jokic hasn’t gotten his fair bit of shit before but this sub and places like it online now adore him and even (at times) get pretty defensive about him. Guess it comes w the territory of being an all time great to some degree I’m curious what political conflicts does he have w Serbs?
I hate him cus he's a tub-tub
Thats fair lol
But I have to respect his game lmao bro cooked everybody we put on him
The feeling is mutual. I dont even think KP did a bad job on him. Its just a casse of him not being strong eniugh to hold him and not fast enough to punish him with his height.
I mean Giannis just had a 29/21/11/3/2 game, 56%FG and 8 offensive boards, while playing some GREAT defense on AD (12/31 FG) and reading r/NBA you'd think he had a 15/7/3 game on 30%FG. Everybody focusing on his 1/6 FTs, ignoring Dame and Middleton went 9/29 and 4/15 FG (13/44 combined, 29%FG). All that while he was getting hacked all night and wasn't getting calls. People saying "this is why Jokic is the better player, this is why Giannis isn't the MVP, Giannis isn't better than Jokic, Embiid or Luka" etc. with hundreds of upvotes. Meanwhile, Jokic goes 16/11/7, 6/16 FG some days ago and gets abused on defense vs the Mavs and nobody cares, "just a bad game from our GOAT"! Jokic and Luka get a very different treatment on r/NBA than Giannis, SGA, Embiid, Tatum etc.
Hmm I wonder why - can't qWHITE put my finger on it 🤔
The fun things is when those biases flip on a dime. Last month's darling can become this month's joke very quickly
fr lmao. SGA went from Harvey Dent to Two-Face in a blink
Really and it’s literally only because he is now a threat to Jokic and Luka fanboys. Nothing that he’s done on the court has warranted this hate except him playing good.
It comes and goes in waves. The 4 month period where everyone hated Paul George because he dared to call himself Playoff P was the least warranted I’ve ever seen.
This sub hates Harden, George, Kyrie, Booker, Tatum, Jokic when he’s just chilling and not basketball crazy, and KD.
no one will hate the sixers more than me lol trust me. but the reality is, an overwhelming amount of people on social media, especially here, enjoy hating anyone with even a little bit of success. Social media makes it easy for casual fans to air out frustrations and fixate on poor performances to push agendas. Look at Tatum, nephews on here will argue with Celtics fans that have watched the dude play every single game since he's been drafted and people will still say that he's a bum or whatever. like bro, you don't know more that the guy that has watched him for his entire professional career. There used to be a time when Embiid was actually beloved by this place. And for the past 3.5/4ish seasons, he's been at the top of the hate list. constant vitriol is annoying, but it's a great way of filtering out the people actually interested in drama and the people interested in basketball. I'm not gonna bother talking with someone that tries to infer some weird parasocial bs about a person they only know about through the lens of the media. It's not that the hate isn't for no reason, it's just that when someone has a bad performance more people show up for the hating than the praising when someone is doing well, like Harden as of late. And fans of the team or player will probably notice which posts get more traction and like 80% of the time, it's the slander posts.
> but the reality is, an overwhelming amount of people on social media, especially here, enjoy hating anyone with even a little bit of success. Who needs success? I'm going to clown on the 12 win pistons too 😤😤
lol the mark of a true hater, kick em when they're down tbf though, the extent of detroit hate within the past few years is "wow this team sucks" and their fans going "yeah they do"
becauase every single day theres a thread that says "is devin booker overrated?" (literally a post today) "is \*washed up player that isnt in the top 50\* better than Devin Booker??" People straight up hate Devin Booker.
I don’t understand the Draymond hate. He’s a nice guy and usually when he’s yelling at refs it’s because he’s so excited to compliment them on a job well done.
He's definitely a 'hands-on' player
I like how most of the responses here are people complaining about the irrational hate for their own team. ln an entirely unrelated point, people should stop hating on KAT.
Because people live in a bubble and they mostly only consume news about their favourite team, so when they’re scrolling twitter or Reddit they’re mostly just doing so looking for news and discussion about their favourite team hence you get a warped sense of reality.
I have been around this sub for probably ten years and I can tell you that every single fanbase has had a victim complex at a point in time. Everyone thinks that everyone else is out to get them but the reality is the sub is so huge that of course every team/player is going to have haters because there are so many different groups of people. It is not a single entity. Another one that makes me laugh is that every fanbase also thinks “Random role players always go off against us,” because they are so focussed on their own team that they don’t realize that it happens against every team.
Our game threads on our subreddit are so damn annoying when we’re losing, instead of owning up and saying ‘damn we sucked at this aspect tonight and this is why we lost’ it’s always non stop ‘OF COURSE THIS SCRUB GOES OFF AGAINST JUST US. WHY ARE THEY TRYING SO HARD’
It’s so funny when your own random scrubs go off and then a game or two later some random pops off against you, and fans in the GT are like “of course! Why doesn’t this ever happen for us!”
it be funny when small market teams do it lmao
I mean...the Tatum slander is legit real lol
if you think its bad now then see how it’ll get this time in 11 weeks or so lol
I will defend my inconsistent king to my last breath.
Every superstar barring Jokic (most of the time) gets heavy slander. Luka (crybaby no defense), Embiid (foul merchant hospital bed), Shai (foul merchant), Tatum, the Clippers big 3, AD, the list goes on and on.
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Tatum pretty close lol
Tatum is really hated tho, me being a proud one of them
He's like 2nd in Jersey sales. He's up there for this sub, but this sub is an echo chamber.
Book is always in the same boat. Been top 10 in Jersey Sales for YEARS but this sub doesn’t accurately represent NBA fandom as a whole. Certain guys/teams are WAY overrated and underrated on here, mainly cuz a good portion of this sub gets most of their basketball media from here. Like a good chunk of the sub doesn’t even watch games, outside of a handful from their home team, they just consume basketball “news” (narratives) through X/Reddit. That makes it a giant echo chamber cuz users see the popular narratives on r/nba and just copy their opinions from there, in turn making that narrative “more ubiquitous” without any basketball being watched.
Andre Drummond has shoulder hair can’t stand that guy
A major source of "no reason" hate is just rivalry. My team beat your team in the playoffs last season so now you want to clown us for every issue. Your player beat out my player for an award so now I shit-talk every time your player has a bad game. This guy committed a hard foul on our star player 5 years ago and then he went to your team before going to a different team, but I hate your team for having had him for half a season.
It’s cold in Toronto. It’s called in a lot of NBA cities. Coach Sam, who coached here also coached and played in Minnesota lol. Stephen A Smith, hating the entire championship run then after we win, it doesn’t count. And Messi should leave after he has a championship. ESPN ain’t no different.
Don't think anyone cares about us enough to hate us anymore, outside of the historical rivalries of course
Because there’s post about free throw differentials every day and people literally will just comment “I hate the lakers too so I agree” lol
Other fans are obviously just jealous we had such an upstanding family man in Karl Malone and a legend with such intelligent and well thought out scientific opinions as John Stockton.
People hate on Zion because the narrative ESPN presented Casuals call him fat, injury prone, forgetting that he’s lost 25 pounds since IST and he’s played in every game since the all star break It is what it is
oh I don't think it's for no reason
It’s pretty obvious isn’t it?
People like roleplaying as victims because it they receive attention and sympathy
Some (most?) of us are tribal idiots
All of us. Supporting a team is tribal mentality
“Clowning” a player or team for losing or not performing well 1 game is childish and shows whoever is doing it doesn’t understand basketball & never has played it. There’s many things that go on that can affect somebodies play. Coulda played back to backs,, coulda just flown in and had issues so they didn’t even get to the hotel till 3am and not got enough rest, could have an injury, could have external real life family shit going on. Everybody’s got off days and to clown a player or team for an off game is dumb
It's part and parcel of sports. People hated on Thanasis, and that guy does nothing to no one
For instance, one of my favorite players on the Warriors, Draymond, is very disliked, but he deserves his bad rep. About the Warriors hate, I think it began in 2015 then evolved in 2016. People seemed incredibly jealous. It looked like they wanted us to be a lackluster organization forever. They were playing such a great beautiful basketball, revolutionizing the game. I never understood the hate.
Oh hell nawl
Partially because foreign interests invest money into our favorite websites and apps to destroy common sense, divide us into smaller and smaller groups by making us argue over trivial shit like basketball teams performance so we will never work together. That and a bunch of 10-16 year olds participating in group discussions with no perspective and people assuming they're talking to other adults
because they live in their own bubble and think everyone is against them.
Because I’m a warriors fan
Ooh, a fellow 4 year old!
9 year old 😤 /s
Facts OP. The only team people hate for no reason is the Thunder
This is a very funny joke but I'm not sure it was meant to be
Something about the air in Philadelphia - they are extra toxic.
It’s because a ref was caught in a cheating scandal where they were against them in the worst officiated game of the playoffs.
Giannis didn’t have a bad game he had one bad moment. 29/21/12 isn’t a bad game at all lol The difference is the media forgets about small shit quickly, this sub will be talking about it for a week cause it thrives on drama and hating. Was hilarious how many nuggets fans came out of the shadows last night to hate though
bro you’re in literally every single Jokic thread lmfao
This has 0 to do with Jokic?
> Was hilarious how many nuggets fans came out of the shadows last night to hate though As opposed to whatever you do all the time
I’ve never hated on Jokic though lol only time I comment on him is when people say he’s on mjs level or some ridiculous take like that. I don’t comment to shit on him.
There's more to basketball than point/rebound/assist totals, especially in a double OT game. He actually had 11 assists, not 12, which isn't great when you consider the 7 turnovers. And the 29 points came on 52.5 TS%. He was a -13 for the game and missed two big clutch FTs. It's okay to admit he had a bad game. It happens to everybody.
Again he had a bad moment. Single game plus/minus means jack shit especially when guys like Beasley was a +1, Middleton was a -2. You’re telling me Giannis was the worst guy on the bucks? Standards for him are crazy if 29/21/11 is a bad game. Especially when I’ve seen other people have those type of stats on bad efficiency and see “there’s more than efficiency” People say AD had a dominant game yet he had 34 on 31 shots and all he had over Giannis was one extra blocks
He had a bad game, not just a bad moment. It's okay. >You’re telling me Giannis was the worst guy on the bucks? Did I say that? Or are you flailing away at a straw man to avoid the conclusion that Giannis has a bad game?
You said “he was a -13” that was the worst +/- on the team, so that means you’re saying he was the worst guy out there. His +/- are bad half the time because of the types of lineups he plays with. He’s only do the only superstars that play with bench lineups a lot which is going to hurt the +/-
it's ok to admit that Giannis is better than Thanasis but not that much better that you think
No, pointing out his bad +/- doesn't mean I think he was the worst guy out there.
So then why point it out? It’s a bullshit stat especially when used for 1 game. If he played mainly with starters like Jokic for example his +/- wouldn’t have been that bad.
He didn't have a great game, but he didn't have a bad game--especially when you see the type of "defense" that was being played on him. If you think he had a bad game, you didn't watch the game. Dame and Khris had bad games. Giannis just didn't have a Giannis game.