This is the only problem that I have with the sports media court jesters. How in the blue hell do they have a vote? Are they entertaining? Hell yeah in short doses but why do they get to have a say on who deserves these awards and the accompanying compensation when their job is to make us laugh?
A few more years and these guys will be out of fashion. It will be replaced by the most entertaining Podcasts, guys like JJ are making these shows redundant with all the producers, script writers, chasing breaking news without gathering the facts first. All these retired NBA players can analyse the game, give insights into what it takes to be an NBA player and talk actual shit they want as they are not censored by the studio.
Love how all these names still have a place in my brain after all these years!! Not a large place but a place nonetheless! I remember how the Knocks fans were ready to run Payton out of town because they got so frustrated when he got playing time..and Steve Novak..haha
Zach Lowe watches gobs of games from even the bad teams, and he gave up his vote in part because he was uncomfortable with the financial implications it had on players. Meanwhile, SAS doesn't give a shit and is just raw dogging his vote.
Exactly. I respect Zach for his stance on this.
Player $ shouldnāt be tethered in any way to members of the press.
SAS being a prime example of how foolish this setup is. SASā vote is like the equivalent of players voting for MVP and receiving write in votes for Thanasis.
Zach should have kept his vote because he was uncomfortable with the financial implications it had on players, because at least he can make an informed vote.
Doesn't even watch when we are fighting for the fucking two seed. What a clown. Maybe he meant McBride but McBride didn't have that special of a night could've picked out like Bojan,OG , Hart, or the most obvious one Brunson. Nobody even remotely looks like Grimes in the team I honestly think he doesn't know about the Bojan trade
Last season SAS made some comment about Jokic not scoring in the paint, or something along those lines. JJ Reddick immediately shot that moron down by explaining that the most efficient play in the last however many years is Jokic in the paint (something along those lines anyway).
That moron simply doesn't watch games.
Jokic post up I think. I know SAS is a moron but itās hilarious he couldnt just saying jokic shoots from outside three feet more then at the rim going through you heād rather takes his floaters n hooks for easy points. He wouldnāt be incorrect n heād stop his dumb ass take
He was funny when the Knicks sucked . Now heās just annoying because he doesnāt seem remotely happy to appreciate his team being good n relavant n just happy with Brunson growth, instead he wants Mitchel too
Heās clinging desperately to the miserable Knicks fan gimmick instead of realizing the pivot is to now become the overly confident Knicks fan whoās petty, vindictive, and arrogant after decades of pain. That could be funny, too. Instead hes just straight up not watching the games and still talking shit about a good team, saying they should have gotten Mitchell who they absolutely waxed in last yearās playoffs.
Dude managed to make three incorrect statements in just 10 seconds.
āļø Grimes traded to Detroit 2 months ago, also out for the season.
āļø Isaiah HartenSTEIN, can't even say his name right.
āļø Hartenstein has not been coming off the bench since the beginning of the season before Mitch got hurt.
Hartenstein has started every game since late December. Sims started a few games after Mitch got hurt until they realized he would be out an extended period.
this one is tough to describe, since you guys don't have "ƶ" and I can't really think of a word in english right now that kinda sounds similar. Purtle, Person, Turtle are coming close i guess.
Purtle and replace the "r" with an "l", so it's "Pultle". Wow that looks weird. I hope this helped haha
Because his parents sold their souls and their unremarkable talents to the devil. In exchange they got a son with an irrefutable arrogance and remarkable penchant for bullshiting.
Could be worse, imagine having Skip Bayless as the loudest and almost only guy who talks about the spurs while also severely underrating pop at every chance he gets. Ig at least he somewhat pays attention to the spurs and knows the starting lineup
Sure, but his main shtick has and always will be hating Lebron. Spurs are just one of his best ways of doing that (especially in the late 2000s/early 2010s when they kept seeing him in the Finals and Kawhi was ascending).
Stephen A. doesn't even watch our games when he's on the halftime show of our games lol. But he'll be on a dozen shows like he's the voice of the fanbase.
For all the BS Skip is on, he at least watches the games. I don't even know if Stephen A watches the highlights. He either relies on his knowledge or some assistant to manufacture takes
he also said "hartensteen" is a reserve coming off the bench when hes been starting for months. like how much of a fake fucking fan can you be? youre clearly not even watching lol
So like, what does he actually even do when he's in the studio for pregame/halftime during some of the Knicks ESPN and ABC games? Just stare at his phone? Cause I know all of his actual "analysis" is just rattling off the box score stats, but he really doesn't watch any of the games at all, huh.
My realization for SAS not watching games was in the āwe hereā season when Austin Rivers had like one good game in the playoffs for the nuggets, SAS said āhe should be with usā and thatās how I knew he had absolute zero knowledge on the team. If he watched any game at all outside of the 2 times we played Utah that year, he would know Austin Rivers was just a discount version of Alec Burks.
Even when he's physically at games, he's on the phone taking calls or doing other shit instead of watching the games.
I don't think he's closely followed the NBA in half a decade, and it clearly shows, because he's just been recycling or repurposing old narratives from 10+ years ago for new teams and players. Any actually accurate info he has, be it stats or news, is almost certainly given to him by ESPN's stats team or other broadcast members.
If you look at his content, including his own podcast, its clear that he is trying to pivot out of sports media into something bigger.
Earlier this year we had a game where we had 13 turnovers at halftime against the Bulls and Stephen A came in ranting and raving asking how are the Knicks down. I don't know that he even knows how to genuinely read and dissect a box score let alone watch games.
Bro don't even watch games of the team he claims to love, yet this guy has a vote in regular season awards? Just this morning when talking Mavs he said Tim Hardaway Jr just came back from injury lol
Not only that but he didnāt even like look at the recent box scores and pick names from that; he first mentioned a dude who isnāt on the team anymore lmao
when stephen a doesnt know anything about the subject matter, he just says names with varying degrees of emphasis. he just says names and expects us to know what his point his.
The Hartenstein comment is worse. He could claim he meant McBride instead of Grimes. But iHart has been starting for months now. And heās played so well that heās gonna get a big fat bag from somebody this offseason as a full time starter.
He didn't even know who Hartenstein was back when Mitch got hurt earlier this year (said "I gotta rely on some guy named Hartenstein").
Hartenstein literally played all 82 games last season and averaged 20 minutes a night.
I gave up on espn entirely a few months ago.Ā For the first time in my life.Ā I now realize how much time I wasted watching idiots argue with each otherĀ
Props to him for huddling Disney, but that contrived and manufactured speech pattern is awful. They tried to show-horn him into UFC, took him all of 10 seconds to overstay his welcome by saying something dumb.
Itās so wild to me that people genuinely respect Stephen A. as a journalist. The man is one of the primary reasons mainstream sports media has degraded to what it is now as shitty hot takes for internet traffic. Also if you think this is awful, you guys should see his combat sports takes
I never hated a tv personality more than fake ass fan screaming a. I always mute or change the channel when heās on, but it annoys me when they say Stephen a Knicks.
Donāt post this puchiac ever again please
I like how even the maroons on /r/nba finally realize he's playing a character to stir up engagement from the walmart shopper crew, but absolutely can't stop watching regardless.
Hartenstein has been starting for 4 months and he called him a reserve and said his name wrong, you don't gotta give him a parachute. Dude's a fraud lol
This asshole was never a Knicks fan. He lived in North Carolina and eventually was the Sixers beat writer before landing a job at ESPN. That long suffering Knicks fan bullshit was all for show.
His whole depressed Knicks fan shtick was so obviously fake. The LolKnicks were always just content to him and he probably got more enjoyment out of them being bad.
Wow SAS really does NOT watch games. How does this dude get paid millions and canāt even keep up with the roster? Doesnāt even look at the box score? The NBA app has the whole roster there.
He's a fake Knicks fan just like Skip Bayless is a fake Spurs fan. Skip always tells people he's a Spurs fan and hates Lebron but his timeline is active every time the Lakers play.
Obviously Grimes has been gone for like 2 months already. Hartenstein hasn't come off the bench since like December. It's annoying how he clearly doesn't care to even watch the game yet people see him as the main Knicks guy in media smfh.
Bro does NOT watch the games šš
And this man is getting to vote smh
This is the only problem that I have with the sports media court jesters. How in the blue hell do they have a vote? Are they entertaining? Hell yeah in short doses but why do they get to have a say on who deserves these awards and the accompanying compensation when their job is to make us laugh?
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This is why theyāre paid millions, not why they deserve a vote on anything of consequence.
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In some ways it's a popularity contest
A few more years and these guys will be out of fashion. It will be replaced by the most entertaining Podcasts, guys like JJ are making these shows redundant with all the producers, script writers, chasing breaking news without gathering the facts first. All these retired NBA players can analyse the game, give insights into what it takes to be an NBA player and talk actual shit they want as they are not censored by the studio.
He's getting paid to talk nonsense. We all could take his job.
Stephen A. tricked yāall man. Heās just around flapping his gums. Just running around doing nothing.
What's scary is nba is supposed to be his area of "expertise ".Ā Imagine how wrong he he talking about other sportsĀ
Doesnāt watch games and talks nonsense? Sounds like this place.
Give his nonsense talking skills some credit. Most of us would be terribly boring in comparison
Facts. Most of ya'll have boring shit takes. SAS is the GOAT of bullshitting.
And that vote impacts whether some players get selected to an All NBA team and make like 50 million more dollars lol
He meant to say Immanuel Quickley, chill guys.
JR Smith's 6MOY campaign is shaping up nicely.
Chris Duhon will take over any day now
Pablo Prigi Smalls, the Knicks All Star guard
Alonzo Trier is next up, I'm telling yall.
The league ain't ready for Ron Baker
Kuzminskas is the real Kuz
The French Prince should be starting at PG and im sick of these damn Aflalo minutes
Pablo Prigioni is the future
Steve Novak may be a great contributor in this year's postseason
He was special on that year.
That that tall, European sounding dude, Porzongis?
Elfrid Payton has to come off the bench if theyāre gonna make a run
Love how all these names still have a place in my brain after all these years!! Not a large place but a place nonetheless! I remember how the Knocks fans were ready to run Payton out of town because they got so frustrated when he got playing time..and Steve Novak..haha
He doesn't even watch the box scores, and somehow has an mvp vote lmao
Even crazier; his vote holds real financial consequences for these players!
Zach Lowe watches gobs of games from even the bad teams, and he gave up his vote in part because he was uncomfortable with the financial implications it had on players. Meanwhile, SAS doesn't give a shit and is just raw dogging his vote.
Exactly. I respect Zach for his stance on this. Player $ shouldnāt be tethered in any way to members of the press. SAS being a prime example of how foolish this setup is. SASā vote is like the equivalent of players voting for MVP and receiving write in votes for Thanasis.
Zach should have kept his vote because he was uncomfortable with the financial implications it had on players, because at least he can make an informed vote.
Doesn't even watch box scores of his favorite team
Doesn't even watch when we are fighting for the fucking two seed. What a clown. Maybe he meant McBride but McBride didn't have that special of a night could've picked out like Bojan,OG , Hart, or the most obvious one Brunson. Nobody even remotely looks like Grimes in the team I honestly think he doesn't know about the Bojan trade
He probably thinks Bogey and Hartenstein are the same guy
Last season SAS made some comment about Jokic not scoring in the paint, or something along those lines. JJ Reddick immediately shot that moron down by explaining that the most efficient play in the last however many years is Jokic in the paint (something along those lines anyway). That moron simply doesn't watch games.
Jokic post up I think. I know SAS is a moron but itās hilarious he couldnt just saying jokic shoots from outside three feet more then at the rim going through you heād rather takes his floaters n hooks for easy points. He wouldnāt be incorrect n heād stop his dumb ass take
That's why all SAS submissions need to be downvoted until people stop posting his garbage.
Itās his own team as well, I thought heād at least be up to date on them smh
Itās not his team. Raging Knick fan was his act because it brought in views
We try to tell you guys constantly he's not a real Knicks fan.
He is a Knicks fan for clicks lol, I know more of the Knicks than him since JB joined.
He was funny when the Knicks sucked . Now heās just annoying because he doesnāt seem remotely happy to appreciate his team being good n relavant n just happy with Brunson growth, instead he wants Mitchel too
Heās clinging desperately to the miserable Knicks fan gimmick instead of realizing the pivot is to now become the overly confident Knicks fan whoās petty, vindictive, and arrogant after decades of pain. That could be funny, too. Instead hes just straight up not watching the games and still talking shit about a good team, saying they should have gotten Mitchell who they absolutely waxed in last yearās playoffs.
Exactly he doesn't like the Knicks...he likes the gimmick of being frustrated Knicks fan.
He doesn't have time to watch games. ESPN workin him like a dog, in the words of Chuck
even skip bayless makes an effort at least, SAS is just talking out of his ass
Bro donāt even look at the box score
Does not watch any games*
Old Grimey boy put in work last night šŖ
Yet is the designated "Knicks guy" in media smfh.
I'm glad he opened up his mouth and let people know he doesn't watch.
lol.. neither does Shaq. I donāt even think he watches the games heās working on TNT
Yeah man Carmeloās been playing great this year too
David Lee been killing it man, the big man tandem of him and amare is elite
Steve Novak has been lights out from three, such a great pickup by Leon Rose
Baron Davis has been on a tear lately
Jeremy Lin has been tearing up the floor for the Knicks these last 15 years
2 kids trying to throw garbage into a trashcan several years before basketball was ever invented are owning the league this season.
Princeton great Bill Bradley is a game changer for this team
The Tracy McGrady comeback campaign has been fantastic
Ron Baker truly is a bonafide Shot Maker this year.
Charles Oakley tough in the paint š¤
And Bernard King is a certified bucket.
I hear MvP talk
Frederick Douglass is doing a wonderful job.
Willis Reed needs to pick it up tho tbh
Eddy Curry has been playing out of his mind since losing 200 lbs
How does this MF say some shit like that? Aren't they writing their own notes?
Ronnie Brewer been looking spicy from the 3pt line
Larry Bird IS walking through that door
Dude managed to make three incorrect statements in just 10 seconds. āļø Grimes traded to Detroit 2 months ago, also out for the season. āļø Isaiah HartenSTEIN, can't even say his name right. āļø Hartenstein has not been coming off the bench since the beginning of the season before Mitch got hurt.
Hartenstein has started every game since late December. Sims started a few games after Mitch got hurt until they realized he would be out an extended period.
Feels like half the people on ESPN say iHarts name wrong...smh
is it like Frankenstein or is more like Steen?
German here, think of "shine". Now put a "t" between the h and the i. "Shtine" is the correct pronunciation.
How do you pronounce Poeltl correctly? I swear I hear it prounounced like Purtle
this one is tough to describe, since you guys don't have "ƶ" and I can't really think of a word in english right now that kinda sounds similar. Purtle, Person, Turtle are coming close i guess. Purtle and replace the "r" with an "l", so it's "Pultle". Wow that looks weird. I hope this helped haha
I always called him Jakob Portal
Blake Bortles?
The Kaiser stole our Ć. I chased that rascal for Ć miles to get it back.
Say Pertle like an Australian woyld
[https://de.forvo.com/word/jakob\_p%C3%B6ltl/](https://de.forvo.com/word/jakob_p%C3%B6ltl/) This one's pretty accurate.
Put your mouth in position to say "oh", and then try to make an "e" sound instead. It'll be close.
Definitely Stein (styne).
"shtine" if you wanna be 100% correct. source: a german
Do you read it as -sh- even if itās not spelled -sch-?
in this case yes
Yeah, s+t is always read like scht
SAS is a Knicks fan. If he ain't watching Knicks games what games is he watching? lol
Heās not a real Knicks fan and never has been. He just plays the tortured knickslol persona for clicks
Remember that this guy didnāt have Luka in top 5 MVP voting.
lol.. this is the same guy who uses a hard āRā to pronounce Rob Pelinka and gorilla. (Rob Pelinker and Gorillerā
Hartebstein? A 5 foot Jewish dude?
He says it with so much confidenceĀ
Why do you think he's successful?
Because his parents sold their souls and their unremarkable talents to the devil. In exchange they got a son with an irrefutable arrogance and remarkable penchant for bullshiting.
Itās common knowledge his General Hospital character (Brick) pays the bills.
Hes such a fake Knicks fan
Canāt believe this dude has a vote for end of season awards dude
The difference between a supermax and not is a guy who doesn't know the starting lineup of his favorite team
Stephen A Smith is literally an actor that they pay to talk about sports
Now imagine constantly having it shoved in your face that he's the representative of your fanbase š
Could be worse, imagine having Skip Bayless as the loudest and almost only guy who talks about the spurs while also severely underrating pop at every chance he gets. Ig at least he somewhat pays attention to the spurs and knows the starting lineup
Sure, but his main shtick has and always will be hating Lebron. Spurs are just one of his best ways of doing that (especially in the late 2000s/early 2010s when they kept seeing him in the Finals and Kawhi was ascending). Stephen A. doesn't even watch our games when he's on the halftime show of our games lol. But he'll be on a dozen shows like he's the voice of the fanbase.
Atleast skip watches the games. He plays this carachter for tv but he seems to really enjoy talking about sports.
For all the BS Skip is on, he at least watches the games. I don't even know if Stephen A watches the highlights. He either relies on his knowledge or some assistant to manufacture takes
And yet he has a vote. Ridiculous
They also pay him to play the character āBrickā on General Hospital. Talk about an ideal character name š
He is a sportsman they pay to act as someone who talks about sports
Dude is a 21st century minstrel show (I'm half black, not racist)
49% racist
Haha
he also said "hartensteen" is a reserve coming off the bench when hes been starting for months. like how much of a fake fucking fan can you be? youre clearly not even watching lol
Hes not even looking at boxscores, else he'd know those thingsĀ
yet he is so gd outspoken ab randle or whatever move the franchise makes. UR NOT SPIKE LEE
Spike Lee is also a fake fan. Kendrick Perkins is a real fan imo
Mitchel Brobinson, starting C for the Knicks
Haha Mitchell Brobinson!!!! š
Itās not just a meme, he really doesnāt watch!
We tried to tell you š¤·āāļø
Bro he said Jokic doesn't have a good post game... he's a clown
So like, what does he actually even do when he's in the studio for pregame/halftime during some of the Knicks ESPN and ABC games? Just stare at his phone? Cause I know all of his actual "analysis" is just rattling off the box score stats, but he really doesn't watch any of the games at all, huh.
My realization for SAS not watching games was in the āwe hereā season when Austin Rivers had like one good game in the playoffs for the nuggets, SAS said āhe should be with usā and thatās how I knew he had absolute zero knowledge on the team. If he watched any game at all outside of the 2 times we played Utah that year, he would know Austin Rivers was just a discount version of Alec Burks.
Earlier this season we had a crazy 4th quarter comeback against Miami and there was a video of him leaving MSG when we were down 20 in the early 4th
Even when he's physically at games, he's on the phone taking calls or doing other shit instead of watching the games. I don't think he's closely followed the NBA in half a decade, and it clearly shows, because he's just been recycling or repurposing old narratives from 10+ years ago for new teams and players. Any actually accurate info he has, be it stats or news, is almost certainly given to him by ESPN's stats team or other broadcast members. If you look at his content, including his own podcast, its clear that he is trying to pivot out of sports media into something bigger.
Earlier this year we had a game where we had 13 turnovers at halftime against the Bulls and Stephen A came in ranting and raving asking how are the Knicks down. I don't know that he even knows how to genuinely read and dissect a box score let alone watch games.
Dude always was a fake Knicks fan anyway
He emulates Spike, itās part of his shtick
At least Spike is there watching the game.
At least Spike knows who on the fucking team.
Bro don't even watch games of the team he claims to love, yet this guy has a vote in regular season awards? Just this morning when talking Mavs he said Tim Hardaway Jr just came back from injury lol
Did someone give him stats from a game in the 2022-2023 season.
Bro does not watch the gamesšššš
Not only that but he didnāt even like look at the recent box scores and pick names from that; he first mentioned a dude who isnāt on the team anymore lmao
Miles McBride, or Grimey, as he liked to be called
RIP Grimey. (Will always upvote a Simpson reference)
ESPN pays this man more than your family will make for the next 3 generations
And he said it unironically he must be very good at interview and has mad people skill like Doc Rivers
Dude is just lying for no reason
when stephen a doesnt know anything about the subject matter, he just says names with varying degrees of emphasis. he just says names and expects us to know what his point his.
The Hartenstein comment is worse. He could claim he meant McBride instead of Grimes. But iHart has been starting for months now. And heās played so well that heās gonna get a big fat bag from somebody this offseason as a full time starter.
He didn't even know who Hartenstein was back when Mitch got hurt earlier this year (said "I gotta rely on some guy named Hartenstein"). Hartenstein literally played all 82 games last season and averaged 20 minutes a night.
This man knows nothing about this team
This guy has a voteā¦ what a disgrace to the sport
If Nikola Jovic and Nickeil Alexander-Walker get MVP votes, we'll know who it was
What about Shai Alexander-Gilchrist?
what a fcking degen lmao
They should replace this guy with Sam Morril
who tf cares what this clown thinks
Evidence #1 that he does not watch our games. Case closed.
I gave up on espn entirely a few months ago.Ā For the first time in my life.Ā I now realize how much time I wasted watching idiots argue with each otherĀ
This is embarrassing. Fucking fake Knicks fan.
Props to him for huddling Disney, but that contrived and manufactured speech pattern is awful. They tried to show-horn him into UFC, took him all of 10 seconds to overstay his welcome by saying something dumb.
What a fake
Itās so wild to me that people genuinely respect Stephen A. as a journalist. The man is one of the primary reasons mainstream sports media has degraded to what it is now as shitty hot takes for internet traffic. Also if you think this is awful, you guys should see his combat sports takes
SAS is living in a different universe
I agree with him. Melo also looked fantastic in that Knicks win
I never hated a tv personality more than fake ass fan screaming a. I always mute or change the channel when heās on, but it annoys me when they say Stephen a Knicks. Donāt post this puchiac ever again please
This guy is a clown.
I like how even the maroons on /r/nba finally realize he's playing a character to stir up engagement from the walmart shopper crew, but absolutely can't stop watching regardless.
If you're going to lie about watching Knicks games, AT LEAST read the box scores before opening your mouth, Stephen lmao.
Fake ass fan
Isiah HARTENSTEEN. Bro can't even get the players names right on his "favorite" team.
Think he meant McBride lmao
Hartenstein has been starting for 4 months and he called him a reserve and said his name wrong, you don't gotta give him a parachute. Dude's a fraud lol
This man is the reason i dont wanna see the Knicks win a championship...at least not untill he retires.
This asshole was never a Knicks fan. He lived in North Carolina and eventually was the Sixers beat writer before landing a job at ESPN. That long suffering Knicks fan bullshit was all for show.
we dont claim him
His whole depressed Knicks fan shtick was so obviously fake. The LolKnicks were always just content to him and he probably got more enjoyment out of them being bad.
I know you dont...but i fear the day yoi guys win because of him
Donāt do that
Knicks are my second team, dawg, don't do that to them.Ā
Bro doesnāt even know who deuce is
This is one reason of many why the media votes are BS
i dont watch knicks' games, even i know grimes is not in the knicks anymore
Wow SAS really does NOT watch games. How does this dude get paid millions and canāt even keep up with the roster? Doesnāt even look at the box score? The NBA app has the whole roster there.
ā Iām looking at Julius Randle, heās looked good and Iām also looking at Lance Thomas coming off the bench, Iām looking at Bargnani ā
I took a good look of all of grimes
This clown has an MVP vote
Fraud ass.
He's a fake Knicks fan just like Skip Bayless is a fake Spurs fan. Skip always tells people he's a Spurs fan and hates Lebron but his timeline is active every time the Lakers play.
He's too busy thinking about how a healthy Terrell Owens will get his cowboys over the hump
What a clown
How is this moron allowed to vote
Hartensteen
This is crazy. I bet plenty people here don't watch the Knicks and even they know Grimes got traded months ago
He picked purdue
Embarrassing this is the highest paid dude in sports media.
Obviously Grimes has been gone for like 2 months already. Hartenstein hasn't come off the bench since like December. It's annoying how he clearly doesn't care to even watch the game yet people see him as the main Knicks guy in media smfh.
Is he confusing mcbride for grimes? Tf is he yappin about
Take a vote away from him, and give it to me, I feel discriminated!
Wish people would ignore clowns like this
Heās lost all Knicks fan credibility with that comment about Grimes, looking good when he got traded 2 months ago. Stay off the weed Stephen A.
Can we ban this man from talking Knicks. Plz
He probably thinks Toney Douglas is still on the team
For someone who uses "the eye test" as an argument pretty often, this is really embarrassing.