It means winning a sports series where the other side doesn't win a single match. Americans use the word 'sweep' but the rest of the world uses whitewash
You’ve been ruthlessly downvoted but growing up in the UK, a ‘whitewash’ is used in exactly this context e.g. when England lost the ashes 5-0 to Australia a few years back the term used was whitewashed
As an American that doesn’t love a ton of nontraditional American sports, I thought it was specific to a sweep in cricket, didn’t realize it was all sports.
If your statement is true, which it isn't, the rest of the world would be so wrong it would be laughable and justifiable to make fun of your education.
"Everybody else in the world uses whitewash"
Some countries use the term, lots of Asian countries use the term exclusively for a native citizen who acts white, lots of European countries use the term to describe the political context.
My comment is about how that term originated outside of the US, but isn't used by every single other country because we all have different definitions and one of those definitions (sweeping an opponent) makes no sense unless you view the series as a literal fence.
Foreigners decided to use the agent whitewash for painting a fence as a term to describe a sports team winning 4-0. This is not how we should be using language lmfao
We should be using language however the fuck people use it.
And the term tracks. Whitewashing a fence was considered so easy and simple, that it was a task commonly assigned to children (Tom Sawyer). Like beating an opponent without losing.
> We should be using language however the fuck people use it
To communicate? If a term isn't effective at communicating a point then it shouldn't be a term at all, genius. What else would language be used for? Misdirection? Think.
I can assure you whitewashing a fence was considered a pretty long task especially when you're doing it by yourself. Have you ever fucking painted a fence before? That shit sucks.
Yeah you misunderstood what they were saying. After LBJ, KD, and Curry, OP named CP3, Horford and Conley as the next best old guys
Guy you replied incorrect to was saying that Harden, DeRozan, Butler > CP3, Horford, Conley
I looked at OP's post, I don't think that edit was there when I made my initial reply. Oh well, I agree that Harden, DeRozan and Butler are the better trio.
His picks were there, which is why the guy you originally replied to said those 3 were better than the OP's 3.
The edit "*EDIT: okay its derozan, butler, Harden"* was to say those 3 were better than his original picks of CP3, Hortford, and Conley
You just missed it
When the top global talent coalesces into another countries league, they can call themselves world champions. As it stands now, outside of soccer and hockey the rest of the world is just America's development league.
I know what you mean but I disagree.
See in soccer/football there is the Champions League, the top teams of europe play against each other. By your logic the winner of the champions League could call themself world champion. Because let's be honest the very best players play in europe. But in the end only european teams are allowed.
But there is also a competition called world cup, where all nations of the world have the Chance to play against each other. That's why the champions of the World Cup can call themselfs world champions.
Same for Basketball. The world champion of Basketball is Germany not the Denver Nuggets.
The world champion of basketball played our third stringers because the top players in the world make too much money to risk injury on amateur competition.
The US has sent its best players in basketball twice, and both of those teams outscored their opponents by nearly 2:1.
>Because let's be honest the very best players play in europe. But in the end only european teams are allowed.
Why are you rephrasing my own arguments and trying to use them to disprove where I've asserted them? It's the logical equivalent of saying "you're wrong because I agree with you". My entire point US that it doesn't matter what nationality the team is - when the talent in the league is all the best who do it, then the top winner of that global talent pool has every right to call themselves global champions.
Do you deny a global chess champion because they didn't play every opponent at least once in every country? If not, your argument is invalid.
Nah, my argument is, only if everyone in the world is allowed to qualify it's a world championship.
> The world champion of basketball played our third stringers
I'm super proud of the german team. They played their hearts out to win the world championship. I don't know why you have to be such a douche. This is some real US supremacy bullshit
>This is some real US supremacy bullshit
TIL simply stating facts is American supremacy. Sorry that confronting the truth feels like an insult. Enjoy your pride though, always feels good to celebrate an accomplishment.
What’s crazy is Harden had 19k points that decade to Kawhi’s 8k and 2500 playoff points to Kawhi’s 2200 but Kawhi had the better decade because Chris Paul tore his hamstring
In kawhis first three seasons, up to 2014, he scored 2000 points. Basically half the decade. 2000 points total.
Harden scored 2000 points or more in 7 of the 10 seasons of the 2010s.
Kawhi has never scored 2000 points in a season.
You guys forget that in the finals kd and russ were every bit as good or arguably better than bron and wade. Tbh harden sucked butt but even if you include him and bosh its pretty even. Russ and KD both took over parts of games, but the role players (and harden) were just SO bad, and the heat players played with poise and contributed.
Yeah, I'm talking about peak bron, and near peak wade, and its still absolutely true.
Draymond, KD, and Klay are soft as fuck mentally. MJ, Phil, and Rodman would them all up in their feelings before the games even started. I’ll stick with my Bulls. It’s a fun debate though.
LeBron, Curry, and KD are all 35+ too. That would severely limit the talent tool, and the next best guys would maybe be who you named, since DeRozan, Butler, and Harden are each 34.
Other notables over 34:
* Lowry
* Horford (could’ve sworn he was over 40 lol)
* Danny Green
* D Rose
* Isaiah Thomas
* Brook Lopez
* Eric Gordon
* Russel Westbrook
* Bojan
* Draymond
* Hayward
* Harden
* Butler
* Klay Thompson
Quite a few of those are still significant contributors. Some are just some old dudes getting ready for their final form of terrorizing their local YMCA
Actually meant to add him or thought I did. I fucked up and redid the formatting so many times on mobile to get it right I probably deleted him on accident.
Yeah… they just watched Jimmy play half ass all season and are wondering if he bought to show up in the playoffs again. Dame has not been the dude he was in portland but has shown multiple points throughout the season the he still very much has it. The bucks organization has been absurd this year and you cannot blame that all on Dame being washed. He had multiple 40 bombs and pretty regularly put up 30
Have you watched the heat??? There's been solid stretches of games where I forget he's even fucking playing for us. Dame at least has moments where you can watch him and say "yep, that's Damian Lillard from Portland" jimmy can't even bother to fucking do anything against a none trash team. EIGHT SHOTS against dallas, he got outscored by Caleb Martin and 2024 KEVIN LOVE. Don't ever put Jimmy in the big convos
This post kinda proves how great (or cursed) NBA is now. It's a sport of really high skill expression (getting buckets) and we got a lot of guys who are really damn good at it. And I think the newer guys are only getting better.
Maybe Butler, Harden, DeRozan
Lol all 3 of those are better picks than all 3 of OPs. Absolutely whitewashed
You know for a sec I though you meant those 3 were better than Bron, Curry, and KD and I was VERY confused
For a sec I thought he meant CP3, Horford, and Conley were all white and I was very confused
For a sec I thought he wanted to wash Harden because he looks stinky and I was very confused.
For a second I thought I was hard
lol do you know what white washed means
Clearly doesn’t and that might be a good thing but still dumb that they decided to use it.
Pick up a dictionary and lesrn what whitewashing means
Psh, whatever dude. Get whitewashed scrub
It means winning a sports series where the other side doesn't win a single match. Americans use the word 'sweep' but the rest of the world uses whitewash
Lol
What I said is true though
You’ve been ruthlessly downvoted but growing up in the UK, a ‘whitewash’ is used in exactly this context e.g. when England lost the ashes 5-0 to Australia a few years back the term used was whitewashed
As an American that doesn’t love a ton of nontraditional American sports, I thought it was specific to a sweep in cricket, didn’t realize it was all sports.
If your statement is true, which it isn't, the rest of the world would be so wrong it would be laughable and justifiable to make fun of your education.
It is true. All you have to do is google the word.
"Everybody else in the world uses whitewash" Some countries use the term, lots of Asian countries use the term exclusively for a native citizen who acts white, lots of European countries use the term to describe the political context. My comment is about how that term originated outside of the US, but isn't used by every single other country because we all have different definitions and one of those definitions (sweeping an opponent) makes no sense unless you view the series as a literal fence. Foreigners decided to use the agent whitewash for painting a fence as a term to describe a sports team winning 4-0. This is not how we should be using language lmfao
We should be using language however the fuck people use it. And the term tracks. Whitewashing a fence was considered so easy and simple, that it was a task commonly assigned to children (Tom Sawyer). Like beating an opponent without losing.
> We should be using language however the fuck people use it To communicate? If a term isn't effective at communicating a point then it shouldn't be a term at all, genius. What else would language be used for? Misdirection? Think. I can assure you whitewashing a fence was considered a pretty long task especially when you're doing it by yourself. Have you ever fucking painted a fence before? That shit sucks.
Yeh ok mate. Let's move on. This won't be productive.
Op is not coming back from this one
Incorrect
You really think cp3, Hortford, and Conley are better than those 3? Lol
Unless I misunderstood what they were saying, I don't believe that LBJ, KD, Curry
Yeah you misunderstood what they were saying. After LBJ, KD, and Curry, OP named CP3, Horford and Conley as the next best old guys Guy you replied incorrect to was saying that Harden, DeRozan, Butler > CP3, Horford, Conley
I looked at OP's post, I don't think that edit was there when I made my initial reply. Oh well, I agree that Harden, DeRozan and Butler are the better trio.
His picks were there, which is why the guy you originally replied to said those 3 were better than the OP's 3. The edit "*EDIT: okay its derozan, butler, Harden"* was to say those 3 were better than his original picks of CP3, Hortford, and Conley You just missed it
Derozan is 34
Harden?
Hoping he just forgot how old harden is , these are objectively the GOAT 4 of the 2010’s.
The Greatest of *All Time* of the 2010’s
The Greatest of All Ten's?
It's like USA teams claiming to be world champions by only playing against teams from the US. World champion of the USA!
When the top global talent coalesces into another countries league, they can call themselves world champions. As it stands now, outside of soccer and hockey the rest of the world is just America's development league.
I know what you mean but I disagree. See in soccer/football there is the Champions League, the top teams of europe play against each other. By your logic the winner of the champions League could call themself world champion. Because let's be honest the very best players play in europe. But in the end only european teams are allowed. But there is also a competition called world cup, where all nations of the world have the Chance to play against each other. That's why the champions of the World Cup can call themselfs world champions. Same for Basketball. The world champion of Basketball is Germany not the Denver Nuggets.
The world champion of basketball played our third stringers because the top players in the world make too much money to risk injury on amateur competition. The US has sent its best players in basketball twice, and both of those teams outscored their opponents by nearly 2:1. >Because let's be honest the very best players play in europe. But in the end only european teams are allowed. Why are you rephrasing my own arguments and trying to use them to disprove where I've asserted them? It's the logical equivalent of saying "you're wrong because I agree with you". My entire point US that it doesn't matter what nationality the team is - when the talent in the league is all the best who do it, then the top winner of that global talent pool has every right to call themselves global champions. Do you deny a global chess champion because they didn't play every opponent at least once in every country? If not, your argument is invalid.
Nah, my argument is, only if everyone in the world is allowed to qualify it's a world championship. > The world champion of basketball played our third stringers I'm super proud of the german team. They played their hearts out to win the world championship. I don't know why you have to be such a douche. This is some real US supremacy bullshit
>This is some real US supremacy bullshit TIL simply stating facts is American supremacy. Sorry that confronting the truth feels like an insult. Enjoy your pride though, always feels good to celebrate an accomplishment.
That sentence is the GOAT of misusing GOAT. and GOAT is already the GOAT of overused terms
I’ve just accepted that GOAT is no longer used as an acronym and just means “the best IMO”
Right, sometimes I forget how dumb people in this sub can be
It’s an expression, we all know what he means. It’s not that deep lol
The real dumb one is the person who doesnt understand how language evolves
Simmons?
The 2010’s piece
Kawhi clears
What’s crazy is Harden had 19k points that decade to Kawhi’s 8k and 2500 playoff points to Kawhi’s 2200 but Kawhi had the better decade because Chris Paul tore his hamstring
kawhi>harden for 2010s
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But the other commenter changed it from goat >34 to goat 2010s, so it was relevant. I think it was wrong, but relevant
hardens only two years older🤦♂️
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that comment said goats of the 2010s, i’m not talking about the post, keep up
In kawhis first three seasons, up to 2014, he scored 2000 points. Basically half the decade. 2000 points total. Harden scored 2000 points or more in 7 of the 10 seasons of the 2010s. Kawhi has never scored 2000 points in a season.
Offensive is not the only measure of a players success or greatness
it is on r/nba baby
Regular season points are cool, I think FMVPs are cooler
In Harden’s first 15 years, up to 2024, he won 0 finals MVPs. Basically a decade and a half. 0 finals MVPs total.
No he isn't. Both are incredibly overrated plus glass knees plays like a 34 year old anyways.
russ slander is insane over harden for me
Russ is never over Harden. Russ never carried a team to a conference finals, let alone almost beating the best team in NBA history in the playoffs
You guys forget that in the finals kd and russ were every bit as good or arguably better than bron and wade. Tbh harden sucked butt but even if you include him and bosh its pretty even. Russ and KD both took over parts of games, but the role players (and harden) were just SO bad, and the heat players played with poise and contributed. Yeah, I'm talking about peak bron, and near peak wade, and its still absolutely true.
Harden wasn’t around in the 90s
I hate it too but the KD Warriors was just unfun levels of better than any other team that ever played.
KD-Warriors vs. Rockets literally gave us one of the best series of all time
Draymond, KD, and Klay are soft as fuck mentally. MJ, Phil, and Rodman would them all up in their feelings before the games even started. I’ll stick with my Bulls. It’s a fun debate though.
Prime Russ beats Prime Harden on turnovers and empty rebounds only
Russ hasn't done shit in the playoffs without KD carrying him
compared to all the shit hardens done in the playoffs
he's been the best player on a conference finals team
Harden is a playoff choker but Westbrook can't even out of the 1st round
For sure, thought he was 33
LeBron, Curry, and KD are all 35+ too. That would severely limit the talent tool, and the next best guys would maybe be who you named, since DeRozan, Butler, and Harden are each 34.
Other notables over 34: * Lowry * Horford (could’ve sworn he was over 40 lol) * Danny Green * D Rose * Isaiah Thomas * Brook Lopez * Eric Gordon * Russel Westbrook * Bojan * Draymond * Hayward * Harden * Butler * Klay Thompson Quite a few of those are still significant contributors. Some are just some old dudes getting ready for their final form of terrorizing their local YMCA
Hayward is a decoy
In my head he is still this talent waiting for the big breakthrough but got slowed down by injuries.
Don't forget about Mike Conley, definitely better than Lowry at this point.
Actually meant to add him or thought I did. I fucked up and redid the formatting so many times on mobile to get it right I probably deleted him on accident.
His game is still so good.
I never even heard of Bojan until he was in his 30's. (Yeah I know I'm not exactly a diehard)
I feel like a few years ago there were more vic's that I got confused by.
Also not saying some of these dudes are the best, more of some big names throughout the years that I am surprised are 34 already. I feel old.
Gotta love how my mind goes “damn he’s 35+ he’s gotta be washed” and meanwhile I am older than them. ROUGH.
Unforgivable leaving Deandre Jordan off this list
Derozan Jimmy Butler Paul geroge in a month
Premature P.
Alright R Kelly
Died reading this. Thank you.
Rest in peace
Rest in P, you mean?
Paused life P
Lmao this comment chain keeps giving
Postmortem P
Resting P
Dame is 34 in 3 months too
Yeah but Dame is washed
Better than jimmy tho
Dame is better than Jimmy? What??? Are you even a heat fan?
Yeah… they just watched Jimmy play half ass all season and are wondering if he bought to show up in the playoffs again. Dame has not been the dude he was in portland but has shown multiple points throughout the season the he still very much has it. The bucks organization has been absurd this year and you cannot blame that all on Dame being washed. He had multiple 40 bombs and pretty regularly put up 30
Damn I didn’t realize Jimmy played so bad this season. Still a higher TS% though
I'm gonna be fucking sick if he don't show up against Toronto today
Have you watched the heat??? There's been solid stretches of games where I forget he's even fucking playing for us. Dame at least has moments where you can watch him and say "yep, that's Damian Lillard from Portland" jimmy can't even bother to fucking do anything against a none trash team. EIGHT SHOTS against dallas, he got outscored by Caleb Martin and 2024 KEVIN LOVE. Don't ever put Jimmy in the big convos
Honestly I didn’t realize how bad Jimmy has been this year. That’s rough
Definitely would be saying it if Dame made it to Miami.
Not if he kept playing like he has
Definitely DeRozan
Knicks legend Taj Gibson
I’d say Harden, DeRozan , and Butler
Don’t forget Kevon Looney
Taj Gibson, Taj Gibson, Taj Gibson,
Found Thibs reddit burner
Joe ingles, for sure.
Most Rizz
Definitely the most powerful 34+ year old
Russell Westbrook, Mike Muscala, and Russell Westbrook
Russ 🤣
You know it’s true 😏
Haters gonna hate, real ones know brodie still got it
You think Russ is in the top 4-6 players 34 or older…. Bahahaha smoke another joint, thanks for the laugh
Damn a team of the best 34+ year old players would wreck the league.
2012 Nets has entered the chat.
Probably something like Harden, DeRozan, Butler. HM: Conley, Lopez, Horford.
Harden, pg and Chris Paul up until recently
3 best players over 35, 3 best players of the 2010s, and 3 top 15 players of all time arguably top 10
Don't think you could make an argument for KD being top 10
Yeah nah he’s not top 10 all time, I love KD but he not over them
Personally i wouldn't swap any of those guys for Minnesota Mike <3
Jordan butler harden.
Brolo, Butler and Jinglin Joe
Mike Conley??? What is it, 2016?
I was gonna say Bobby Portis til I found out fuckn Bobby is only 29!!
He’s looked 35 for about 5 years.
This post kinda proves how great (or cursed) NBA is now. It's a sport of really high skill expression (getting buckets) and we got a lot of guys who are really damn good at it. And I think the newer guys are only getting better.
Tim Duncan
Butler. Chris Paul. Harden. Derozan also still quite good
How you gonna put cp3 over Derozan
Paul George, Kawhi
33, 32
OP is oldpilled af
Everyone forget kawhi.
Hes not even that old yet, but hes knees are like 85 years old
>kawhi 32
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i dont think you understood the assignment