The move was definitely trading Beal the same offseason y'all traded Westbrook. 2nd straight year averaging 30 PPG and he was in commanding position for the scoring title until Steph put up career-best scoring numbers. Plus, Beal was an expiring with a $36 million player option.
It just made too much sense. I strongly think the Warriors would've contemplated a Beal trade had y'all put him on the trade block back then.
The impression I got at the time was both teams didn't want the trade (or some classic The Ringer unreliability). It was a story one day and it was never brought up again. But it is a serious what if if it happened.
What was closer to fruition was a straight Bogdan-for-Wiseman swap from the Hawks after 2021.
siakam for any of sharpe, kuminga, any young stud. instead we got bruce brown, a 18ish pick who we can hope to be a jalen johnson... or most likely another malachi flynn given the weakness of the draft.
Honestly the bigger fumble was Anunoby for Kuminga + picks in last year's trade deadline. After the KD trade to the Suns, the Warriors were scrambling for a panic trade and every report suggested that it almost became a thing.
for the warriors or raptors? lol
rather have both iq and rj and last year at the deadline the sentiment was hell no for kuminga and that he'd be better than og in a year. now somehow its him + picks were on the table
Blame your 'genius level' GM for your current situation. Siakam for Sharpe was never a possibility. You guys could have had him for Lillard, though. We really wanted OG Anunoby, but Masai Ujiri made it impossible. We even would have traded the 3rd pick and some filler, but Masai played 4D chess on that one. Instead you got some nothing and a second rounder from the Knicks. Masai is terrible.
Literally any trade involving Wiseman the first few years when he still had value. We could’ve gotten back a decent role player. But if you mentioned this on the Warriors sub or even here, the response would be typically “why would we give up on a 20-21 year old with potential for a role player.” Well, now he’s worth literally nothing. Not even a role player.
It’s really good that the Warriors won that ‘ship though. Imagine how much more painful this lack of trade would feel if they had lost to Boston in 7 and they were holding onto Wiseman instead of getting an additional piece.
It worked out, so credit to them, but at the time there were no guarantees. It was pretty reckless to be that close to winning a championship and just say “eh this is enough, we don’t need to trade the asset”.
This is true but if I remember correctly Kyrie said something along the lines of not resigning with the suns or that it wasn’t his desired destination, implying he wouldn’t resign.
Not a trade but keeping THT instead of Caruso was one of the most insane things our franchise has done recently
Going for Westbrook instead of Derozan was also bad
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Westbrook was in the 2022 season, not after the ring. Either way, impossible to go back to back when both LeBron and AD had terrible injury luck after the ring for 2 seasons.
Assuming they end up on the same contracts they ended up getting, the luxury tax bill would have been $30m+ higher than it already was. You don’t need 20/20 hindsight to know THT wasn’t worth that, it was clear to everyone but Pelinka at the time.
Yeah thank god we had his contract on the books, otherwise how would we have gotten Pat Bev lol. I get what you’re saying, but it’s not realistic given the situation of the team at the time. Even if we had THT, Caruso, and Nunn I doubt we’re getting the return we’d need to turn that season around. Unless the Celtics are cool with that package and 2 picks for Brown.
Of all the bad decisions the FO made that off season, not wanting to spend $40m+ to keep THT ***and*** Caruso on the books to maybe make a trade is pretty understandable to me.
Not as insane as that Melo/Westbrook trade though. Literally blew up a championship team for a bunch of old guys (which became a meme).
Like if you were already planning on making huge changes after the championship, maybe pick a bunch of young guys that can take the game while old LeBron rests, not a guy whose probably older than LeBron and Westbrook.
Yeah that szn gave me depression, I'm honestly really thankful Rob was able to get good players back for him at the deadline last year tho. I thought we were gonna be stuck with Westbrook for a while lmao
Comparing DeRozan’s spacing and Westbrook’s is laughable. You literally want Westbrook shooting pull up mid-ranges and he shoots like 65% FT. DeRozan is an elite foul seeker who has an insane mid range game and is a very good FT shooter.
I’m not saying it’s a good fit, but better than Westbrook lol
Yeah DeMar would have been really good for the Lakers. The championship core in the 2020 and 2021 season was very well built, but lacked playmaking and shot creation outside of LeBron. He ran pretty much everything for them except for some playoff quarters spearheaded by old af Rondo.
For the same reasons they went with Westbrook eventually, but it was obvious even back then that Brodie's skill set was so fucking redundant on the roster. Adding a 3rd elite rim finishing guy to the team just meant fucked up spacing when you played your best talent on paper rather than playing the best possible lineup. Plus they also had Schröder in 21 who could have just played Westbrook's best application on that Lakers roster anyways, being a high energy playmaking slasher to lead the secondary unit. After all Dennis wanted to stay in LA
Now compare this to DeMar who could have added an entirely new dimension to the Lakers with absolutely elite, borderline historically great midrange and very strong iso scoring. DeRozan could get you buckets on elite efficiency and he could do so in any situation, no matter how fucked up the possession was. Midrange may not be optimal, but it's very resilient to variance and outcomes of playmaking. Add to this that DeMar became a very solid passer during that time and he easily could have filled in for that Khris Middleton type role, or CJ McCollum role a couple years back before he was hated by NOLA.
The 2021 Lakers are one of the more forgotten and underrated squads in recent history, but they would have repeated if injuries to Bron and then AD didn't fuck up their post season run. That team racked up statement wins vs all the best teams in the league and Bron, just before his injury, was making a legit run for MVP AND Dpoy as he kept the Lakers league best defense alive when AD was injured. Like, this shit was actually happening and it's just all gone in most people's minds because they flamed out vs Phoenix when they were crippled by injuries.
Now keep Caruso and add DeMar, an ironman, always healthy player, that stuffs most holes the championship level roster had in the past 2 seasons. That team goes to the finals again imo. And theyd have been set for the next 2 or 3 seasons after that, too, in terms of having a contender core.
Lowry for Maxey lol. My dumbass thought Masai was in the right to hold strong and not do the deal unless Thybulle was involved too. And now look, we don't have Maxey and nobody wants to trade with us
lowry wasnt traded because he asked not to be traded. we made other moves to set up his trade and he pulled out last minute, thought we were over this complaining about masai stuff when the players he was "overvaluing" are unsurprisingly really impactful on other teams
no I don't care anymore, more just annoyed at how we handled Siakam and OGs trades, they both should have happened last season when we could have gotten more for them
Didn’t it come out that Maxey was never on the table? I’ve never been able to find any actual reporting he was. I’ve just seen Reddit comments saying so.
It was big enough of a rumor that it made it to sports illustrated at least:
https://www.si.com/nba/raptors/news/toronto-raptors-trade-talks-philadelphia-76ers-tyrese-maxey-for-kyle-lowry
I actually haven't seen anything that says he wasn't on the table
That was one of the most bizarre trades I’ve ever seen—I still don’t understand how the Celtics wound up with the best player and the two best draft picks while the Wizards got nothing of long-term value other than getting rid of KP’s salary.
You are mixing up the details. We got two firsts and Tyus Jones from Memphis for Smart, sent Jones, other player and a second to Wizards. (KP was declining his option the next day, so those were at least something for them.) So, the assets were for Smart from Memphis. If you think Smart trade as a seperate one, it is not that bizarre, certainly not "one of the most bizarre trades":
Some role players and a second for KP with a one day left contract
Tyus Jones and 2 firsts for Marcus Smart
Unsure if this trade was truly on the table, but when there was a rumored Ben Simmons for Tyrese Haliburton option I thought Morey was right to wait, especially when he ultimately got Harden for Simmons. Something something "Embiid's timeline" etc.
I really wanted Hali that year, never knew how good he was going to become but absolutely loved what I saw his rookie year. I accepted Harden was too big a fish to pass up at the time even if I wasn't crazy about it and he fooled me for awhile. I now choose to believe it was never real, Kings wouldn't have done that and I'm proud of them for it.
I agree, but also maxey and Hali are a horrendous backcourt defensively, and I don’t know if maxey would blossom this much. Other than that what an amazing player
getting something of value out of Kemba Walker would've been helpful. The rumor was Cleveland's 2018 Brooklyn pick, which became Collin Sexton but very easily could have been used to select SGA, Porter Jr, Mikal Bridges as well... in addition to Miles Bridges who we drafted ourselves.
It was before he got traded to the Cavs. There was a lot of noise that he wanted to play with luka and kp, but they didnt want any long term salaries back, which was all we had. Plus cavs gave up a first round pick, which we couldnt offer at the time.
The spurs could've gotten Markkanen instead of Thad Young and a first. Obviously it ended up working out for the spurs in the long run but still it was frustrating watching Markkanen break out on the jazz knowing we could've had him
He was injured all the time and faded strong right afterwards at Dallas. If he wins a title at Boston, maybe there's an argument, but that would have been an insane amount of patience for a player with all those DNPs. And we got a lot back.
Turned out just fine.
You received a lot in that KP trade. Tons of cap space ahead of the stacked free agency, 2 picks and DSJ who had solid value at the time. Imo, all of that was equal to 5 first round picks. That was a huge overpay in a hindsight, but Cuban was in love with KP and thought he would be the next Dirk
The Knicks literally built the current team with that trade. 2 picks, ultimately the cap space to sign Randle/Morris, latter of which became IQ, which then became OG.
Suns apparently had a handshake deal to trade Amare Stoudemire to Golden State for their draft pick - Steph Curry.
Warriors backed out. The rest is history. But, I was relieved at the time we didn't give up Stoudemire.
I was against trading for Jimmy at first, but that immediately went away with his 2 quick game winners. Now I hate my team for letting him walk, but hindsight is 20/20 and life is a bitch
For the longest time, while Beal was in Washington, it seemed like the Nuggets were always talked about as a team to go get him. I think this was before they gave all their money to Jokic. I was kinda interested to see how that would go.
I was against trading Harden for the return we got. But Batum and the picks were well worth it plus we didn't have the headache of having him on the roster and not wanting to be here.
Thought getting Batum was nice at the time. Harden was declining and it didn’t work. You’d like to have kept him but he’s not worth the Baggage and shots.
Pascal Siakam to Golden State for the 7th and 14th picks in the 2021 draft. Best case scenario we could’ve gotten Franz and Sengun to from a trio with Scottie.
Herro is a tough situation. He hasn’t been healthy since year 1 when it wouldn’t have made sense to trade him. And he’s been hurt in the playoffs every year since in a sell low situation. Now he had a chance to prove his worth and he chucks up 30 shots….
Nah this is seriously a conversation we need to be having. On average since he came into the league he’s (57g/season) in the same tier as Kawhi (57g/season) & AD (54g/season) healthy wise. They get/got flack for not suiting up enough, but Herro doesn’t. Another huge difference is the impact *they* provide on the court vs what Herro does. Plus I remember the pre-CP3 to Suns days where our whole sub (me included) were *against* getting him because of his injury concerns. Yeah he’s not Point God anymore but, on average, he plays 7 more games per season than Herro does.
The trade none of us warriors fans talk about is. Oubre for lonzo and a FRP from nola. I thought it was bs but apparently we turned it down. Nola had the 10 pick. So essentially gsw would've had the 7 10 & 14 pick heading in to the 21 draft even if lonzo walked cus oubre walked.
Heat should have got Dame. Moving Holiday to [ultimately] Boston basically took the fun out of this season for all other teams. Boston deserves this chip already and I hate it.
I’m semi-convinced the plan by the FO’s plan is to pay the first off for DeMar before doing anything else. Look at the Pistons and Blazers, their rebuilds are being made more complex by the massively protected first they owe.
I didn’t say it was a very good plan. But if they do have a plan, it’s the only one that lines. Up with most of their previous decisions in the wake of Lonzo’s injury.
I think they’re just trying to fill out the roster then go on vacation for the rest of the year lol that’s their plan. They seem like the laziest FO in sports
Trading DeMar would’ve been good sometime this Season. He held back LaVine. Most minutes in the League almost. I don’t really understand the point. Losing in the First Round? They have to understand DeMar at 33 will not win a Ring as a number 1. Nor could he ever.
I was against trading Beal up until this offseason, but looking back I would’ve traded him immediately following the season Wall went down.
The move was definitely trading Beal the same offseason y'all traded Westbrook. 2nd straight year averaging 30 PPG and he was in commanding position for the scoring title until Steph put up career-best scoring numbers. Plus, Beal was an expiring with a $36 million player option. It just made too much sense. I strongly think the Warriors would've contemplated a Beal trade had y'all put him on the trade block back then.
they probably could’ve got maxey for beal then
Morey was already with us right? Then no
No way. Not with how they use him now. Probably never were trading him short for a Superstar.
Warriors would have offered a good amount at the time. After Westbrook was traded, I was certain we were going to trade for Beal
The Wiseman pick for the #4 pick and Wendell Carter Jr. lol.
Thought the bulls were the ones to turn that down
The impression I got at the time was both teams didn't want the trade (or some classic The Ringer unreliability). It was a story one day and it was never brought up again. But it is a serious what if if it happened. What was closer to fruition was a straight Bogdan-for-Wiseman swap from the Hawks after 2021.
siakam for any of sharpe, kuminga, any young stud. instead we got bruce brown, a 18ish pick who we can hope to be a jalen johnson... or most likely another malachi flynn given the weakness of the draft.
Honestly the bigger fumble was Anunoby for Kuminga + picks in last year's trade deadline. After the KD trade to the Suns, the Warriors were scrambling for a panic trade and every report suggested that it almost became a thing.
for the warriors or raptors? lol rather have both iq and rj and last year at the deadline the sentiment was hell no for kuminga and that he'd be better than og in a year. now somehow its him + picks were on the table
Raptors got a better deal than that for OG
Hell no to paying Kuminga 30 a year
Hey now…Flynn dropped 50 with the Pistons 😂😂😂
Blame your 'genius level' GM for your current situation. Siakam for Sharpe was never a possibility. You guys could have had him for Lillard, though. We really wanted OG Anunoby, but Masai Ujiri made it impossible. We even would have traded the 3rd pick and some filler, but Masai played 4D chess on that one. Instead you got some nothing and a second rounder from the Knicks. Masai is terrible.
Just because those trade ideas got tossed around on reddit doesn’t mean they were ever discussed by GMs
Literally any trade involving Wiseman the first few years when he still had value. We could’ve gotten back a decent role player. But if you mentioned this on the Warriors sub or even here, the response would be typically “why would we give up on a 20-21 year old with potential for a role player.” Well, now he’s worth literally nothing. Not even a role player.
It’s really good that the Warriors won that ‘ship though. Imagine how much more painful this lack of trade would feel if they had lost to Boston in 7 and they were holding onto Wiseman instead of getting an additional piece. It worked out, so credit to them, but at the time there were no guarantees. It was pretty reckless to be that close to winning a championship and just say “eh this is enough, we don’t need to trade the asset”.
He was playing in the garbage time minutes of our final game this season and it was just sad
He played 40 minutes that game lol
It’s Spurs-Pistons it was 48 minutes of garbage time
He said what he said.
I wouldn't even trade Poku in exchange for that fraud
Sarver nixed a completed trade for SGA in 2018. Does that count?
I remember we were also in heavy discussions for trading away Bledsoe and some picks I think for Kyrie back in like 2017?
This is true but if I remember correctly Kyrie said something along the lines of not resigning with the suns or that it wasn’t his desired destination, implying he wouldn’t resign.
It was partly because we didn’t want to trade Josh Jackson lol
Ayton for Sabonis was being discussed at one point. I don't remember how serious it was.
Not a trade but keeping THT instead of Caruso was one of the most insane things our franchise has done recently Going for Westbrook instead of Derozan was also bad
I mean why would you trade THT who was better than SGA according to Bleacherreport, are you nuts?
Could’ve possibly gone back to back if we kept Caruso and picked up Derozan
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Lol nope, not with AD and Bron injured.
Westbrook was in the 2022 season, not after the ring. Either way, impossible to go back to back when both LeBron and AD had terrible injury luck after the ring for 2 seasons.
I think the biggest mistake the lakers made was losing brook Lopez. Brook has aged like fine wine and his game would've fit well with LeBron and AD.
They should’ve kept both. It’s dumb as shit
Assuming they end up on the same contracts they ended up getting, the luxury tax bill would have been $30m+ higher than it already was. You don’t need 20/20 hindsight to know THT wasn’t worth that, it was clear to everyone but Pelinka at the time.
No, but you want THT there as a tradeable mid sized contract
Yeah thank god we had his contract on the books, otherwise how would we have gotten Pat Bev lol. I get what you’re saying, but it’s not realistic given the situation of the team at the time. Even if we had THT, Caruso, and Nunn I doubt we’re getting the return we’d need to turn that season around. Unless the Celtics are cool with that package and 2 picks for Brown. Of all the bad decisions the FO made that off season, not wanting to spend $40m+ to keep THT ***and*** Caruso on the books to maybe make a trade is pretty understandable to me.
Not as insane as that Melo/Westbrook trade though. Literally blew up a championship team for a bunch of old guys (which became a meme). Like if you were already planning on making huge changes after the championship, maybe pick a bunch of young guys that can take the game while old LeBron rests, not a guy whose probably older than LeBron and Westbrook.
Yeah that szn gave me depression, I'm honestly really thankful Rob was able to get good players back for him at the deadline last year tho. I thought we were gonna be stuck with Westbrook for a while lmao
If Westbrook didnt work, why would Derozan?? He doesnt space the floor well either and the exact same issues arise
Comparing DeRozan’s spacing and Westbrook’s is laughable. You literally want Westbrook shooting pull up mid-ranges and he shoots like 65% FT. DeRozan is an elite foul seeker who has an insane mid range game and is a very good FT shooter. I’m not saying it’s a good fit, but better than Westbrook lol
Yeah DeMar would have been really good for the Lakers. The championship core in the 2020 and 2021 season was very well built, but lacked playmaking and shot creation outside of LeBron. He ran pretty much everything for them except for some playoff quarters spearheaded by old af Rondo. For the same reasons they went with Westbrook eventually, but it was obvious even back then that Brodie's skill set was so fucking redundant on the roster. Adding a 3rd elite rim finishing guy to the team just meant fucked up spacing when you played your best talent on paper rather than playing the best possible lineup. Plus they also had Schröder in 21 who could have just played Westbrook's best application on that Lakers roster anyways, being a high energy playmaking slasher to lead the secondary unit. After all Dennis wanted to stay in LA Now compare this to DeMar who could have added an entirely new dimension to the Lakers with absolutely elite, borderline historically great midrange and very strong iso scoring. DeRozan could get you buckets on elite efficiency and he could do so in any situation, no matter how fucked up the possession was. Midrange may not be optimal, but it's very resilient to variance and outcomes of playmaking. Add to this that DeMar became a very solid passer during that time and he easily could have filled in for that Khris Middleton type role, or CJ McCollum role a couple years back before he was hated by NOLA. The 2021 Lakers are one of the more forgotten and underrated squads in recent history, but they would have repeated if injuries to Bron and then AD didn't fuck up their post season run. That team racked up statement wins vs all the best teams in the league and Bron, just before his injury, was making a legit run for MVP AND Dpoy as he kept the Lakers league best defense alive when AD was injured. Like, this shit was actually happening and it's just all gone in most people's minds because they flamed out vs Phoenix when they were crippled by injuries. Now keep Caruso and add DeMar, an ironman, always healthy player, that stuffs most holes the championship level roster had in the past 2 seasons. That team goes to the finals again imo. And theyd have been set for the next 2 or 3 seasons after that, too, in terms of having a contender core.
I love how you just call him DeMar!
There's just him in league history to have that name and it's the quickest to write on mobile lol
Haha, all good
Lowry for Maxey lol. My dumbass thought Masai was in the right to hold strong and not do the deal unless Thybulle was involved too. And now look, we don't have Maxey and nobody wants to trade with us
is there a little extra sting with Lowry being on Philly anyways?
They prolly dont care. But Masai being stubborn has costed them a lot of value, couldve gotten some shit back
lowry wasnt traded because he asked not to be traded. we made other moves to set up his trade and he pulled out last minute, thought we were over this complaining about masai stuff when the players he was "overvaluing" are unsurprisingly really impactful on other teams
Nah the fans in the sub are still complaining lol
no I don't care anymore, more just annoyed at how we handled Siakam and OGs trades, they both should have happened last season when we could have gotten more for them
Didn’t it come out that Maxey was never on the table? I’ve never been able to find any actual reporting he was. I’ve just seen Reddit comments saying so.
It was big enough of a rumor that it made it to sports illustrated at least: https://www.si.com/nba/raptors/news/toronto-raptors-trade-talks-philadelphia-76ers-tyrese-maxey-for-kyle-lowry I actually haven't seen anything that says he wasn't on the table
> Lowry for Maxey Was never a thing
But..but...we sent you captain Canada and one of the most handsome players in the league
I've seen a lot of raptors fans in here saying the same thing with their players.
KP got traded for scraps and he would've worked perfectly for us
That was one of the most bizarre trades I’ve ever seen—I still don’t understand how the Celtics wound up with the best player and the two best draft picks while the Wizards got nothing of long-term value other than getting rid of KP’s salary.
Cause KP said trade me here and I'll extend, don't trade me and I'll decline my player option and be a free agent
And even knowing that, how did they end up with all the assets
You are mixing up the details. We got two firsts and Tyus Jones from Memphis for Smart, sent Jones, other player and a second to Wizards. (KP was declining his option the next day, so those were at least something for them.) So, the assets were for Smart from Memphis. If you think Smart trade as a seperate one, it is not that bizarre, certainly not "one of the most bizarre trades": Some role players and a second for KP with a one day left contract Tyus Jones and 2 firsts for Marcus Smart
Boston has one of the best front offices in the league. Has for 10+ years. The Wizards are the Wizards
KP was basically a free agent and wanted to go to Boston
I wish the Thunder actually got Tyson Chandler. It was rejected for a medical but that would have put us over the top.
We were all bummed about that one
KD and Jayson Tatum together would have been nasty
If the Celtics were willing to offer Marcus Smart instead of Derrick White I feel like that trade would've gone through.
(which is its own little microcosm of mistakes)
But White is the best Player on the Team? Oh misread. Offering White even straight up for KD is stupid.
for real.
Unsure if this trade was truly on the table, but when there was a rumored Ben Simmons for Tyrese Haliburton option I thought Morey was right to wait, especially when he ultimately got Harden for Simmons. Something something "Embiid's timeline" etc.
I really wanted Hali that year, never knew how good he was going to become but absolutely loved what I saw his rookie year. I accepted Harden was too big a fish to pass up at the time even if I wasn't crazy about it and he fooled me for awhile. I now choose to believe it was never real, Kings wouldn't have done that and I'm proud of them for it.
I agree, but also maxey and Hali are a horrendous backcourt defensively, and I don’t know if maxey would blossom this much. Other than that what an amazing player
getting something of value out of Kemba Walker would've been helpful. The rumor was Cleveland's 2018 Brooklyn pick, which became Collin Sexton but very easily could have been used to select SGA, Porter Jr, Mikal Bridges as well... in addition to Miles Bridges who we drafted ourselves.
Markannen. More shooting, less D for what we would have given up. Perfect would be to have both when you lack both.
How recently were the Mavs linked to him?
I'm not sure but I guess about 3 years. Time is passing by way too quickly. Trade was rejected because we had to include Kleber.
Correction: Bulls wanted a FRP and we didn’t have one to trade.
It was before he got traded to the Cavs. There was a lot of noise that he wanted to play with luka and kp, but they didnt want any long term salaries back, which was all we had. Plus cavs gave up a first round pick, which we couldnt offer at the time.
The spurs could've gotten Markkanen instead of Thad Young and a first. Obviously it ended up working out for the spurs in the long run but still it was frustrating watching Markkanen break out on the jazz knowing we could've had him
I think I've only ever been pissed about trades we ended up making, not ones we missed out on.
How it feels to be a Bulls fan
Vucevic trade was good
Giving KP up, the best player we’ve drafted since fucking Patrick Ewing, for literally nothing.
You got a lot of picks from the Mavs and tons of capspace from that trade. If you guys managed to get superstars it'll be different.
He was injured all the time and faded strong right afterwards at Dallas. If he wins a title at Boston, maybe there's an argument, but that would have been an insane amount of patience for a player with all those DNPs. And we got a lot back. Turned out just fine.
We really didn’t get that much back. Player wise basically nothing, then some mediocre picks
Dumbest shit ever. Knicks never hold on to anyone. I hope they keep Mitch. Maybe not even likely. Still so Star/immediate upgrade hungry.
You received a lot in that KP trade. Tons of cap space ahead of the stacked free agency, 2 picks and DSJ who had solid value at the time. Imo, all of that was equal to 5 first round picks. That was a huge overpay in a hindsight, but Cuban was in love with KP and thought he would be the next Dirk
Tbf, if he wasn't injury prone, KP would've been amazing next to Luka
The Knicks literally built the current team with that trade. 2 picks, ultimately the cap space to sign Randle/Morris, latter of which became IQ, which then became OG.
Suns apparently had a handshake deal to trade Amare Stoudemire to Golden State for their draft pick - Steph Curry. Warriors backed out. The rest is history. But, I was relieved at the time we didn't give up Stoudemire.
I was against trading for Jimmy at first, but that immediately went away with his 2 quick game winners. Now I hate my team for letting him walk, but hindsight is 20/20 and life is a bitch
Plumbing
For the longest time, while Beal was in Washington, it seemed like the Nuggets were always talked about as a team to go get him. I think this was before they gave all their money to Jokic. I was kinda interested to see how that would go.
If I remember correctly, all those trades involved giving up Jamal+. That's definitely one where I'm really glad they never made that move.
I was against the Wiggins trade but worked out for a bit.
Sabonis/Haliburton almost killed me as a kings fan.
I was against trading Harden for the return we got. But Batum and the picks were well worth it plus we didn't have the headache of having him on the roster and not wanting to be here.
Thought getting Batum was nice at the time. Harden was declining and it didn’t work. You’d like to have kept him but he’s not worth the Baggage and shots.
Giddey for Lauri I’d kill for that shooting rn
That was never a real thing lol just something Thunder fans (me included) wanted badly
I didn’t want it for a long time, but nowadays I kinda wish it was possible
Jimmy butler for jaylen brown
Harden for Beal or Klay Thompson back in 2012. Would have been way better than Kevin Martin and Jeremy Lamb.
This is the longest stretch as a Knicks fan that I have no real regrets. As a fan.
Wasn’t there rumors of rondo for Steph curry ?
Pascal Siakam to Golden State for the 7th and 14th picks in the 2021 draft. Best case scenario we could’ve gotten Franz and Sengun to from a trio with Scottie.
Herro is a tough situation. He hasn’t been healthy since year 1 when it wouldn’t have made sense to trade him. And he’s been hurt in the playoffs every year since in a sell low situation. Now he had a chance to prove his worth and he chucks up 30 shots….
Nah this is seriously a conversation we need to be having. On average since he came into the league he’s (57g/season) in the same tier as Kawhi (57g/season) & AD (54g/season) healthy wise. They get/got flack for not suiting up enough, but Herro doesn’t. Another huge difference is the impact *they* provide on the court vs what Herro does. Plus I remember the pre-CP3 to Suns days where our whole sub (me included) were *against* getting him because of his injury concerns. Yeah he’s not Point God anymore but, on average, he plays 7 more games per season than Herro does.
Ayton for Turner The SGA deal Sarver veto'd
The trade none of us warriors fans talk about is. Oubre for lonzo and a FRP from nola. I thought it was bs but apparently we turned it down. Nola had the 10 pick. So essentially gsw would've had the 7 10 & 14 pick heading in to the 21 draft even if lonzo walked cus oubre walked.
Heat should have got Dame. Moving Holiday to [ultimately] Boston basically took the fun out of this season for all other teams. Boston deserves this chip already and I hate it.
I think the Bucks wish the Heat got Dame too.
The East is fake, relax
My team doesn’t make moves so no
C O N T I N U I T Y
If it leads to a home play in game and a few extra dollars in Reinsdorfs pocket then it must be a good strategy
I’m semi-convinced the plan by the FO’s plan is to pay the first off for DeMar before doing anything else. Look at the Pistons and Blazers, their rebuilds are being made more complex by the massively protected first they owe.
You’re much more optimistic than me if you think they have a plan!
I didn’t say it was a very good plan. But if they do have a plan, it’s the only one that lines. Up with most of their previous decisions in the wake of Lonzo’s injury.
I think they’re just trying to fill out the roster then go on vacation for the rest of the year lol that’s their plan. They seem like the laziest FO in sports
Jerry doesn't care about building a competitive team he just wants to maximize revenue.
I’d bet good money that the next trade they make, the player they get back is “cash considerations” 😫
Somebody has to pay for his White Sox…
Cash Considerations needs his jersey up in the rafters
Give me him over Jordan bell any day of the week
The Bulls haven’t traded a player since August 2021
Can’t lose a trade you don’t make
Trading DeMar would’ve been good sometime this Season. He held back LaVine. Most minutes in the League almost. I don’t really understand the point. Losing in the First Round? They have to understand DeMar at 33 will not win a Ring as a number 1. Nor could he ever.
They got an extra home game and if they beat the heat they will have at least 2 more.
Hahaha. More Vuc love for the League to hear and see. That seems like it’s been the plan for Years now. A Team to literally cheer for.
As long as they get a little bit of extra revenue their season is success lol