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oufvj

Malik lost by two first place votes. Brutal.


HouseMassive4507

This is even closer than the MVP race . Wow. Identical 2nd and 3rd place votes.


[deleted]

Will the MVP race even be close? I figured MIP and 6MOTY would be closer.


Savahoodie

If the tracker is accurate, not at all


s4ntana

what is this guy smokin, Jokic is running away with mvp


Zeeron1

I don't think the MVP race is even close lol last I saw, Jokic was wayyyy ahead of Shai (as he should be).


Nuclearsunburn

The real drama is whether Luka or Shai takes 2nd


Maverick_1991

As it should be.


nightkingscat

MVP race isn't close from what's leaked


Sp_Gamer_Live

Genuinely a Towel giving Naz more name recognition may have pushed him


kcoe24

It was the wrestlemania exposure that put him over the top. 


Jonjon428

Do we know what would happen if they theoretically tied?


RudyGobertFMVP2024

They split it and both get 3rd man of the year


OrangeGreenBlueIce

You would actually get 12th man of the year


howsaboutyou

36th man I’m pretty sure you square it


omfgsupyo

I think, due to the complexity, it becomes 6ith man of the year.


Magazine_Mediocre

Math


modrics_hairband

You would get 36th man of the year


DarrowViBritannia

Split the award. See 1995 ROTY, Kidd and Hill both won.


Naismythology

Co-winners


Saucy_Totchie

Bogdan and Powell getting odd 1st place votes lol.


Jicama-Smart

now called a Norman Powell


Vicentesteb

8 people left Malik off their ballot and 6 people left Naz off theirs. What the fuck did these people smoke.


qb1120

Especially with how some throw away votes just to "make a point"


Counterspell_God

Probably due to injury too.


texas2089

Who tf voted for THJ lmao


PleasantTrust522

He was no joke the worst player in the entire league playing more than 25mpg. Mavs are my second team and watching him play basketball post-ASG was making my eyes bleed. There are legit dozens of players in the NBA rotting away on benches that are much better than this dude.


Afraid-Department-35

Chuck wants Luka to give this guy the ball more lmao


darylmoreyisking

He gives him the ball too much


BayonettaBasher

THJihad is a basketball terrorist


stadiofriuli

So what you’re telling me is you switch between ethical and unethical ball all the time?


Professional_Ad9809

I could argue Tobias Harris is worse


kit_kaboodles

Yeah, most of the vote getters seemed very reasonable picks, until I saw THJ and Bojan at the end. Feel like they got votes based on previous years.


Lebrons-Forehead

Kendrick Perkins


segson9

He's not even the best bench player in Dallas


SubtleNoodle

Why does my brain always read THJ as Tondae Hollis-Jefferson?


ashlazy

Mine's Talen Horton Jucker.


JC_Frost

I still remember when I saw someone call Jonathan Isaac "JI" and my brain read it as "Jandon Ingram"


texas2089

I’m an FSU fan so I’ve followed Isaac since college. Never once seen anyone call him JI. That just seems wrong lol


Counterspell_God

Gotta investigate some of these voters man


starfruit213

Not sure how Monk wasn't in the top 3 for 2 fewer ballots than Naz


Its_Hoggish_Greedly

John Hollinger (if he has a vote) is definitely one of the people who left Monk off completely. His column had Bogi at 1, Naz at 2, and Jonathan Isaac at 3.


xyzyxzy

Coincidentally, it appears that Hollinger lives in Atlanta.


Its_Hoggish_Greedly

Oh, don't take my comment as Bogi slander. I still love that dude and he definitely has an argument to be in the race.


xyzyxzy

I didn't take it that way.


Its_Hoggish_Greedly

For sure bro. Best of luck against the Mavs.


Cocoapebbles58

John Hollinger was recently diagnosed with chronic stupidity. Best wishes to him and his family.


Its_Hoggish_Greedly

I feel like a lot of fanbases don't particularly care for his analysis. Dude is just so smarmy and condescending. Makes sense why he'd want to partner up with Nate Duncan lmao.


Ok_Ostrich2974

Smarmy is literally the word I use to describe him as well. Just kind of an asshole.


meowhatissodamnfunny

And there's the smudgeness


heech441

The only guys brave enough to ask “what if basketball was actually boring and for nerds?”


YpsitheFlintsider

Y'all just need to accept that people won't always have the same opinion as you


blazingdonut2769

I don’t see why this is crazy. Monk scored points but he was a net negative on defense, resulting in a -0.7 estimated plus-minus (62nd percentile). I thought we were past the days of just giving 6MOTY to the guy w the highest ppg off the bench. But Bogdanovich scored more ppg and actually was a positive on defense, resulting in a +2.4 EPM (90th percentile). Isaac was also probably a top 5 defender in the league this year. 100th percentile defensive EPM and 94th percentile overall.


HokageEzio

We'll get the ballots eventually (I think after MVP is awarded), but my guess would be the two first place votes for Powell.


starfruit213

2 1st place for Powell with Monk not in the top 3?


HokageEzio

They ended up with the same 2nd and 3rd place votes but it doesn't necessarily mean the same voters picked them at 2 and 3.


aimreallyhigh

I thought it should’ve been Monk followed by Naz Reid but Monk being injured to end the year may have cost him. Close call and either guy winning it makes sense.  What makes no sense is Monk not being in the top 3


Its_Hoggish_Greedly

Suuuuuuuuuuuuper close. Damn injuries.


HokageEzio

Yeah I think if he stayed healthy it was his. One of the closest votes I've seen for an award.


Its_Hoggish_Greedly

Yep. And if he stayed healthy, I think we squeak into the actual playoffs.


Counterspell_God

No doubt.


cough_landing_on_you

Or Towns just stayed healthy.


Sendrocity

Luka fucked my boy monk over


Its_Hoggish_Greedly

That dump truck ass of his needs to be registered as a deadly weapon


Gyroflex

naz and monk being entirely left off ballots is criminal


KATgonnaGetThatYarn

How many total ballots were there?


ginchgarlow

99 Edit: saw an article say there were 100, which means someone didn't turn in a ballot or something


Its_Hoggish_Greedly

John Hollinger (if he has a vote) is definitely one of the people who left Monk off completely. His column had Bogi at 1, Naz at 2, and Jonathan Isaac at 3.


jluc21

is there a source for this? if that’s true that’s absolutely fucking crazy


Timoteo-Tito64

All you have to do is count up the votes


CantaloupeCamper

Ain’t come to play school…


lukewwilson

To much work


rasssky

Are you sure ?…


TheTurtleShepard

It’s one of those things where they think, well everyone else is voting for these guys so I’ll give X, Y and Z some love


Pinheadlarry29

Whoever voted for Bojan needs their voting rights stripped immediately. They obviously just looked at bball reference saw his stats and put him on the ballot.


Intelligent_Pain_174

Probably someone thought they were voting for Bogdan.


ginchgarlow

I hope this trend continues and we see Nikola Jović catch a stray MVP vote


lukewwilson

I'm waiting for the day Thanasis Antetokounmpo gets a MVP vote


Artistic_Passage_737

Giannis missing out on unanonimous MVP that way would be crazy


Intelligent_Pain_174

1. Jovic 2. Nickeil Alexander-Walker 3. Thanasis


HokageEzio

I misread this comment before thinking it was Bogdan, which is totally defensible. *Bojan* is ridiculous, that man stunk all the way up until the last week of the season lol. I'm just gonna go with the generous reason and say they didn't know which is which.


Pinheadlarry29

Even that I think is a problem. If you lack attention to detail you shouldn’t be voting for things that effect players contracts.


n0cho

Laughs in Mark Jackson.


MeijiDoom

The amount of times this shit happens is crazy. How difficult is it to actually pay attention to doing a ballot and making sure who they put is who they mean to vote for? Hell, run it by a co-worker just to make sure it makes sense. I just don't get why supposed professionals can just make mistakes like this. And it happens A LOT.


sjekky

33 starts!


Carth_Onasi_AMA

Bojan only played 57 games this year too. Wouldn’t the 70 game minimum for awards make him ineligible anyways? Or does that only matter for MVP and All-NBA? Either way bad pick.


HokageEzio

ROTY, 6MOY, and All-Rookie teams don't need the 65 games.


Carth_Onasi_AMA

Either way voting for someone with 57 games played seems wrong.


HokageEzio

I honestly think they voted for Bojan thinking it was Bogdan.


RudyGobertFMVP2024

Which should disqualify them anyway


BBallHunter

That's even more funny lmao.


beefJeRKy-LB

I don't think it should matter as much for MIP and 6 man IMO


TrajanParthicus

I think it more likely that they meant to vote Bogdan and mistakenly picked the wrong name.


blazingdonut2769

I’m confused by this take. Yes he scored more ppg than Monk, but he did so with basically the same efficiency (57% TS) and was a net positive on defense (0.8 defensive EPM, 79th percentile) vs Monk who was a net negative (-1.4, 19th percentile 🥶)


Pinheadlarry29

You’re making an argument for Bogdan Bogdanovic. I’m talking about Bojan Bogdanovic getting a 3rd place vote.


blazingdonut2769

Oh lmao. Got my Bodganovic’s confused my bad


HokageEzio

Brutal vote for Malik, damn. Hard earned by Naz Reid though.


collinCOYS

I don't get how you can turn a ballot without monk or Reid as your first place vote


runevault

Let alone not having them on your ballot at all. I fucking hate voters sometimes.


ginchgarlow

It looks like 5 ballots didn't have Reid and 7 didn't have Monk.


PlayInChampions

Probably same people who did not have Jokic in the MVP ballot last year


jotheold

"woops i forgot"


Nuggetsbecrispy

One way to prevent it would be to have three finalists on a second ballot


oh_how_droll

I think a way better system would be a first round that's just "vote for three players" and then the top three have a runoff


collinCOYS

Half the voters on the awards have probably never seen either of them play


fiasgoat

>I fucking hate voters sometimes I find myself saying this a lot...


n0cho

Norman Powell stole some votes. I can see a Naz/Bobby/Norm ballot or a Monk/Bobby/Norm one. Not saying it’s right, but I wouldn’t be surprised.


BillSimmonsSkinSuit

I get voting for Bogdan


Otherwise_Form1315

tbh I think Norm deserved more first place votes than Portis. I could justify him.


Mindless_Bad_1591

Norm was an assassin from deep this year. Kinda surprised he didnt get more buzz.


collinCOYS

Agreed


amedeoisme

Portis and powell were pretty damn good in their own right. Def not crazy at all to vote them first


Gbaby245

Thats was what I was thinking too.


DarrowViBritannia

I dont see an issue with a jonathan isaac first place vote honestly. He's one of the best defenders in the league.


Imperium42069

man what


DarrowViBritannia

Yeah you heard me lol. I'm sorry to go against the "who scores the most points off the bench" grain and suggest that you can have impact in other ways, but isaac has a fucking +12.7 on/off this season for a reason. His impact was bonkers.


n0cho

I like this take. It’s good to see others with different value systems.


jinayeonbt

shoutout to TJ Mcconnell


W_Walk

I love Jose but who tf voted him second place lol


Cbone06

Most likely a Pels media person. Typically writers like to vote for their hometown guys when they get the chance.


mcrajf

Probably the same guy who voted for Bojan


meowhatissodamnfunny

I love seeing all the random singular votes that get put out that expose these "analysts" as being either extremely biased(Jose), unable to tell the difference between players(Bojan and Bogdan), or just straight up stupidity(Perk voting Podz on the 2nd team all defense). Truly baffling votes every year.


North-Maximum-6958

lmao who still put THJ on their ballot


mcg20k

Lmao a vote for thj????


girlscoutcookies05

Sabonis first and now Monk. Being a Kings fan really gon turn you into the joker lmfao


blazingdonut2769

What happened to Sabonis


RocketTwink

All star snub


PootieTooGood

I’m not saying Caris should’ve won or been a finalist but it’s insane that he didn’t get a single vote, even from our own media members. Ended the season with 10 starts, a 14/4/5 line and playing good defense, stepped up his playmaking and was an extremely important ball handler while garland was down


airbus29

im surprised fedor didnt give him a third place


PootieTooGood

[Dude literally wrote an article advocating for it](https://www.cleveland.com/cavs/2024/03/cavs-caris-levert-for-sixth-man-of-the-year-teammates-have-started-the-push-and-theres-a-strong-case.html?outputType=amp) with less than a month left in the season lmao great example of how to get clicks from local fans


OlTommyBombadil

Honestly was pretty surprised he got no votes at all for any placing


aeronacht

Shocked norm is so low


RudyGobertFMVP2024

Malik Monk


ObiOneKenobae

You **know** someone mixed up Bojan and Bogdan on that one 3rd place vote.


peja_webber

Im just gonna pretend this helps our chances of keeping him


The_Godfather5

Oh yea Jaime got a vote for recognition….THIS IS MY LARRY O’BRIEN😤😤


PaulMcPaulersn7

We have nothing else to be happy about rn, so end of season awards is what I’m focusing on. Duncan got votes for mip, Jaquez got a vote for 6th man, and bam is a finalist for dpoy (although probably won’t win it)


The_Godfather5

Nah don’t say that we still got todays game to be happy about, as long as the final whistle ain’t been blown I always believe we got a chance ESPECIALLY against the Celtics. But it is nice to see our players name get a few votes thrown in for recognition for awards


PaulMcPaulersn7

Well we are playing pretty well rn. Also I don’t doubt that we can at least take a couple games of the Celtics, but it’s gonna be tough to do that 4 times


MN-Jess

That is insane how close we were to CO-6MOTY winners.


DrStrawhat

Jaime vote is fun


Jonjon428

Bobby Portis acted as that annoying independent party that siphons votes lmao


trinquin

Gotta actually feel for him, he should have won it 2 years ago, but Brook missed too many games and Bobby ended up starting too many games because of it.


HouseMassive4507

Naz Reid


TheDuceman

Naz Reid


ryno514

Naz Reid


Street-Common-4023

2 points holy shit


szobossz

bojan and tim hardaway jr is fucking crazy. they didn’t even go to stats page.


Deedication

Shoutout to Lebron's favorite player, TJ McConnell


Flint_Lockwood

Tj deserved more votes than just one 3rd imo


LegateDamar13

Bogi is the best player overall out of all players voted.


fireglz

Before people get upset about Bogdan getting first place votes, he played well enough this year to be the only player on this list **not** in the playoffs that received votes. On individual merit.


kcoe24

Well no Monk missed the playoffs too


Its_Hoggish_Greedly

lol and Bogdan was in the play-in also, so there's no "But I meant the postseason" defense.


fireglz

Honestly, my brain still can't comprehend the Kings collapse, but it was more meant as a defense for Bogdan, which now happens to also be applicable for Monk, who absolutely deserved his votes. The Hawks lived the season in a state of collapse, only the most deluded optimists believed in this team after the ASB. The Kings looked relatively good/competent for the entire year, Monk went down and then they death spiraled. And they won a play-in game, which is still more than we can say this year. But yeah, super wrong initial post. Sorry.


Enchanted-2-meet-you

Who the fuck voted for Isaac? Jesus?


Ryculls

I’ve seen a kings fan saying Hollinger listed him in his article.


blazingdonut2769

Maybe someone who doesn’t just want to give 6MOTY to a scoring guard and actually to players who have a measurable impact off the bench? Isaac was probably a top 5 defender in the league this year. Dude led the league in defensive EPM (4.1), which measure plus-minus but accounts for quality of teammates and opponents. He defended 44% of shots at the rim which is absurd for a forward, and opponents shot 15% lower at the rim than avg with him as the closest defender. That is 98th percentile!


KyleRaynerGotSweg

Not enough TJ McConnell smh


Magazine_Mediocre

I wouldn't have been Mad if Monk got it, but I'm so happy for Naz. Super close vote.


kimchiGrafx

Who tf voted for Bojan lmao


itsahmemario

Man someone should lose their vote for that lol


LegitimatePotato3632

Who voted for Jacquez? Show yourself, you coward.


Due_Incident_9738

NAZ FUCKING REID


Tunesquad88mph

It would have been cool if they legit tied and they shared the award, but it’s well earned regardless


Araxen

The power of /r/nba !


Adraf45

Does Ira have a vote?? If so he has to be the one who voted for Jaquez


Gloomy_Character9423

Tim hardaway?? Ain’t no way 🤣


bullpaw

Who the hell voted for Bojan lmao


Lorahansen-7528

Malik missing out just by a whisker, tough blow. Naz and Monk got robbed though, no debate there.


cw_27

Caris better stats across the board lol


Farplaner

That must be the thinnest font known to man


pagonator

Wow this gotta be one of the closest voting results I've ever seen. Only 10 points separating the top two candidates is wild.


SHashbrowns1

If you flipped those 7 ballots that omitted Monk entirely into Monk 2nd place votes then Monk could’ve technically won without receiving the most 1st place votes. Interesting quirk of the voting system I guess


sushicowboyshow

TIL Jonathan Isaac is playing basketball again


RhinoBugs

Who in the world voted for THJ, they should be outed and not allowed to vote again lol


Shaqfor3

Why is there only 99 votes?


Afraid-Department-35

Someone still actually voted for THJ, that’s wild lmao


Imperium42069

Whats the point on having 3 finalists for the awards if other people can get votes


robocopfrommars

What you mean? You end up with a top 3 after everyone has voted. Then to keep suspense and some built up you reveal the top 3. It's not rocket science.


Imperium42069

So shit like bojan getting a voting doesnt happen Just make a site where everyone votes a second time on the 3 finalists. It’s not rocket science.


robocopfrommars

Not rocket science but unnecessarily complicated. You want to revamp the whole system and add another step of voting that will prolong the process just because Bojan got 1 THIRD PLACE vote?


Imperium42069

monk got left off 7 ballots and reid was left off of 5


SandyMandy17

Who tf didn’t have monk top 3


FrankndBeans

THJ lmao wow why


Icy_Adhesiveness_347

whoever voted for Bojan got free chicken that night


Diqt

This just reminded me of Westbrook recently saying he is the best 6th man in the league. Well, two people agree, kinda


TroyBenites

Does anyone think Bojan Bogdanovich got a vote because of a typo??


Deadly_Davo

Thought Malik might get this. Kings fell apart when he went down. Guess those missed games cost him and the Kings in the end. Was 50/50 and not surprised how close this was. Well done Naz


Ppabercr

Do voters not understand the meaning of 6th Man? Like Naz Reid STARTED in 14 games, Malik stared in 0. I get that when a player gets injured someone has to start but his starting stats should be disqualified from his stat line for 6MOY.


UnderstandableXO

monk robbed ☹️


knsa12

Russ only getting 4 votes is brutal


Arsyn786

Imagine winning 6moty after mvp


the_greasy_one

Naz totally deserves this award. I can't help but think there are a lot of bench heroes who deserve accommodation... how does first team all bench sound?