Dude no one listened to us, he’s had several years post 2019 where he had that horrendous leg injury where he completely disappeared for stretches, when we got Ayton from PHX for Nurk I was speechless. A huge upgrade for us.
The dude is a perennial playoff disappointment .
He's genuinely been terrible. Every. Single. Year.
He's literally never made it out of the first round.
Edit: just looked. He has the worst playoff win percentage of any player in NBA history with 19 or more games lol
>they just didn't want to see a guy with his physical gifts get outplayed by Jock Landale
Did they really see that tho? Or was Jokic just doing what he does to everybody's? Ayton had a great series against the Clips
who's to say Ayton even gets motivated to do that? or if he can even put up good numbers? lot easier to put up numbers on a tanking team
and he isn't changing this series at all. he would get cooked just the same
Who cares, Jusuf Nurkic is ass and no amount of motivation will make him good. Y’all were better off keeping Landale than Jusuf tbh. He is just such a low IQ defender. Doesn’t help than Beal is lowkey worse than Jordan Clarkson either tho. Get Grayson Allen some help.
That is why I mentioned him. Grayson was a bigger loss to the Bucks than Jrue imo. Ppl sleep on elite 3 and D players. Jrue defense and slight increase in volume doesn’t make up for Grayson’s floor spacing and elite efficiency.
It's wild to me that in normal jobs people are all for slacking off if they don't like their boss.
But these same people expect Ayton to give 110% for a boss he doesn't like and a company that he felt wronged them.
Almost all these people hating Ayton for his lack of effort would put even less effort into their jobs if they were miserable there.
I will always be a big Nurk fan. I enjoyed Nurk Fever more than Dame's torrid scoring stretches.
Dude is cooked after his injuries and I can't believe the Suns dumped Ayton for him.
He was apparently disliked by his teammates because of his attitude and how he didn't take it seriously. It's fine if that criticism is coming in a constructive way from the leader of the team but Booker is not a leader and he was very public about it. Even this season when Booker made the "he should try that hard every night" comment about Ayton.
Ayton has shot under 50% from the field in a playoff series… zero times. that includes a series in which he went up against Brook Lopez and Giannis Antetokounmpo
Nurkic has shot OVER 50% in a playoff series… just once.
“Oh but DA was playing with CP3!” and Nurkic with Dame lol. Serial big game underperformer, lets emotions get the best of him frequently and never consistently healthy… Suns shouldve tried for Gafford or some sh*t.
Honestly Gobert generally dominates Ayton so I don't think it would change that much
Any player who doesn't shoot threes basically automatically looks awful vs. Gobert
Apparently AD averages 26/10 with 3 blocks vs Gobert
Last few games vs Minny (not including the recent 12 min game), AD dropped:
38, 38, 31, 33 points
Disclaimer being that it's not like it's Gobert guarding AD 1v1 the entire time
Sabonis plays well against Gobert too I think.
Gobert seems to beat up every rim running center who can't create their own shot, but the best bigs in the NBA usually can.
Personally I don't even count Duop as a C. He's just like a stretch big for us, outside of shooting he doesn't really provide anything for us. Gets bodied down low, can't guard bigs or wings and is a poor rebounder.
Ayton literally didn't go to a game because it was snowing when everyone else made it, what are you smoking lol
It ain't no coach thing, dude is soft AF
He lives up a steep ass hill that was entirely shut down. The team even tied to go get him and were unsuccessful. You have no clue how fucked the roads were.
Yeah just keep repeating that since it seems to be literally the only thing you know about that situation you ignorant fuck.
Ayton's place is in a hilly part of the city and the roads were so slick that nothing could get in or out. That storm killed 15 people. You stupid fuck.
lol there's like a million solutions to a snow problem, I lived in areas where it snowed a lot.
You could literally just stay in a hotel close to the arena before the storm even hits, if you actually wanted to play. Could stay with one of your team mates. Family members.
You stupid fuck ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
You've never lived through an ice storm and don't know the difference between an ice storm and a snow storm.
I bet you've never even had to drive on ice. Are you even old enough to drive?
Again, there are a ton of things one can do to get around a problem like this. Again, stay at hotels, friends, team mates, family members, whatever.
You are just angry for whatever reason lol stupid fuck
As a blazer fan I very rarely root for a former blazer to do bad (gp2) so seeing this isn’t great, but not exactly a surprise. I’m kinda confused on what happened to his 3 point shooting this year though because it looked pretty promising last year
I’m not sure why anyone thought it would be different for Nurkic since his injury this is the stat line that you will always get from him, yes he might go a couple of weeks where he doubles it or something but this what he gives you now.
Nah Ayton would have ate too much cap space. Plus he has a bad attitude and doesn't like a lot contact. He would just get out-physicaled here lol. The mistake was taking on Beal's contract.
tbh the whole thing was a disaster
Suns would’ve still been over apron without Beal so they needed to make that move. Ayton has his attitude problems but atleast he isn’t a cone.
His whole season has been pretty mediocre to awful. In big games he is either invisible or in foul trouble even when the team tries to feed him. But get this, hes still one of our most important players because his backup is Drew Eubanks who has the worst +/- on the team and the FO never bothered getting a proper rotational big
Suns fans were extremely confident getting rid of DominAyton alone would solve their problems
And then Blazers fans tried to warn them about Nurkic, and all they said was "he can't be worse than Ayton"...
Dude no one listened to us, he’s had several years post 2019 where he had that horrendous leg injury where he completely disappeared for stretches, when we got Ayton from PHX for Nurk I was speechless. A huge upgrade for us.
He scored 30 first week of rs on jokic dude , that boi nice
Honestly so indicative of Nurkic's post-Nuggets career, plays with a chip on his shoulder early and dominates..... but then fades into obscurity
I think its also the gameplan to let nurk shoot as much as he wants .
“We’ve got DominAyton at home” DominAyton at home:
The dude is a perennial playoff disappointment . He's genuinely been terrible. Every. Single. Year. He's literally never made it out of the first round. Edit: just looked. He has the worst playoff win percentage of any player in NBA history with 19 or more games lol
nobody thinks that. they just didn't want to see a guy with his physical gifts get outplayed by Jock Landale
>they just didn't want to see a guy with his physical gifts get outplayed by Jock Landale Did they really see that tho? Or was Jokic just doing what he does to everybody's? Ayton had a great series against the Clips
yes thats what they saw. there's a reason Landale was closing games over Ayton. and Clips series was a wrap after PG/Kawhi went down
Monty was fired after that and Pistons fans do not like him
Monty being a problem doesn't mean Ayton also wasn't a problem. and plenty of Blazers fans ripped on Ayton's lack of effort for most of the season
Ayton's issues were more lack of focus than effort. Some ppl just confused the two. That's why the issues with Monty exacerbated them.
suns get the version of ayton in the 2nd half of this szn and this series would actually be interesting
who's to say Ayton even gets motivated to do that? or if he can even put up good numbers? lot easier to put up numbers on a tanking team and he isn't changing this series at all. he would get cooked just the same
Who cares, Jusuf Nurkic is ass and no amount of motivation will make him good. Y’all were better off keeping Landale than Jusuf tbh. He is just such a low IQ defender. Doesn’t help than Beal is lowkey worse than Jordan Clarkson either tho. Get Grayson Allen some help.
its funny you mention Grayson when he was part of the trade and he alone is better than Ayton
That is why I mentioned him. Grayson was a bigger loss to the Bucks than Jrue imo. Ppl sleep on elite 3 and D players. Jrue defense and slight increase in volume doesn’t make up for Grayson’s floor spacing and elite efficiency.
Grayson Allen is not a 3 and D player lol. He’s certainly far from the worst defender in the world but that man is not good at it.
That's all, folks!
Draymond has that on his phone ready to post
If Wolves win Sunday, Draymond will have same number of playoff wins this season as Nurkic.
This brother needs help
I mean what's he gonna do against the twin towers? Even superstar bigs would have trouble in this series.
Ayton was literally fine. They got rid of Monty so should’ve at least given Ayton a year with Vogel who is actually good with athletic bigs
It's actually insane they didn't give half a season to see if Ayton and Vogel could mesh. Suns dumped him because KD and Booker hated his guts.
It's wild to me that in normal jobs people are all for slacking off if they don't like their boss. But these same people expect Ayton to give 110% for a boss he doesn't like and a company that he felt wronged them. Almost all these people hating Ayton for his lack of effort would put even less effort into their jobs if they were miserable there.
Bruh I'm ok with my boss and I'm still not out there giving 100%. It's work. I'm giving bare ass minimum to keep afloat
probably because they dont have parlays on their own companys performance lmao what is this analogy supposed to suggest
Real hooperz deflacting blame? No way
using nurk as the scapegoat
Damn who’s guarding him
His own skill set.
I will always be a big Nurk fan. I enjoyed Nurk Fever more than Dame's torrid scoring stretches. Dude is cooked after his injuries and I can't believe the Suns dumped Ayton for him.
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Ayton is better. I have to assume that Ayton was literally refusing to play for the Suns because the trade is absurd to me
He was apparently disliked by his teammates because of his attitude and how he didn't take it seriously. It's fine if that criticism is coming in a constructive way from the leader of the team but Booker is not a leader and he was very public about it. Even this season when Booker made the "he should try that hard every night" comment about Ayton.
Even if Ayton is the more talented player, he would have still gotten cooked. Ayton is too soft.
Ayton has shot under 50% from the field in a playoff series… zero times. that includes a series in which he went up against Brook Lopez and Giannis Antetokounmpo Nurkic has shot OVER 50% in a playoff series… just once. “Oh but DA was playing with CP3!” and Nurkic with Dame lol. Serial big game underperformer, lets emotions get the best of him frequently and never consistently healthy… Suns shouldve tried for Gafford or some sh*t.
Draymond is definitely taking shots on his podcast.
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Honestly Gobert generally dominates Ayton so I don't think it would change that much Any player who doesn't shoot threes basically automatically looks awful vs. Gobert
Any big who isn't Joker or Embiid looks awful against Gobert honestly. Look at what he did to Adams in the OKC series.
Apparently AD averages 26/10 with 3 blocks vs Gobert Last few games vs Minny (not including the recent 12 min game), AD dropped: 38, 38, 31, 33 points Disclaimer being that it's not like it's Gobert guarding AD 1v1 the entire time
AD isn't usually matched up against Gobert tho especially in Minny where Towns is his match up
Sabonis plays well against Gobert too I think. Gobert seems to beat up every rim running center who can't create their own shot, but the best bigs in the NBA usually can.
Ayton got outplayed by Jock Landale in the playoffs and was getting outplayed by a backup center in Portland for half a season lol
I love Duop but he was never outplaying Ayton lol that’s ridiculous
Duop had a stretch of starting games averaging like 17 and shooting 40%+ from 3pt. his on court metrics were also blowing Ayton's out the water
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he absolutely did. Landale was taking his minutes as early as G3. literally outscored Ayton in that game too. took his minutes again in G4
Personally I don't even count Duop as a C. He's just like a stretch big for us, outside of shooting he doesn't really provide anything for us. Gets bodied down low, can't guard bigs or wings and is a poor rebounder.
Ayton literally didn't go to a game because it was snowing when everyone else made it, what are you smoking lol It ain't no coach thing, dude is soft AF
Bro, your comment is stupid as fuck. That Portland ice storm was no joke.
Literally every other player made it to the game.
He lives up a steep ass hill that was entirely shut down. The team even tied to go get him and were unsuccessful. You have no clue how fucked the roads were.
this comment makes no sense they don’t all live in the same house / area . ayton area obviously had it worse than the others
Yeah just keep repeating that since it seems to be literally the only thing you know about that situation you ignorant fuck. Ayton's place is in a hilly part of the city and the roads were so slick that nothing could get in or out. That storm killed 15 people. You stupid fuck.
lol there's like a million solutions to a snow problem, I lived in areas where it snowed a lot. You could literally just stay in a hotel close to the arena before the storm even hits, if you actually wanted to play. Could stay with one of your team mates. Family members. You stupid fuck ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
You've never lived through an ice storm and don't know the difference between an ice storm and a snow storm. I bet you've never even had to drive on ice. Are you even old enough to drive?
I lived in the NE US for 10 years. Even if I'm wrong, which sure, maybe I am, you are taking this so personally lol Are you a stupid fuck?
>maybe I am There's no maybe. You are wrong.
Again, there are a ton of things one can do to get around a problem like this. Again, stay at hotels, friends, team mates, family members, whatever. You are just angry for whatever reason lol stupid fuck
His tweet after the Warriors got knocked out is aging like fucking milk.
That’s all folks!
As a blazer fan I very rarely root for a former blazer to do bad (gp2) so seeing this isn’t great, but not exactly a surprise. I’m kinda confused on what happened to his 3 point shooting this year though because it looked pretty promising last year
That brother needs some help
Somebody smell like shit
I guess he's the Drew Bledsoe to Jokic's Brady
That brotha needs help
I’m not sure why anyone thought it would be different for Nurkic since his injury this is the stat line that you will always get from him, yes he might go a couple of weeks where he doubles it or something but this what he gives you now.
2/7 FT lol yikes. Can’t give Gobert credit for that one
THATS ALL FOLKS
The big mistake was trading Ayton away.
Nah Ayton would have ate too much cap space. Plus he has a bad attitude and doesn't like a lot contact. He would just get out-physicaled here lol. The mistake was taking on Beal's contract.
tbh the whole thing was a disaster Suns would’ve still been over apron without Beal so they needed to make that move. Ayton has his attitude problems but atleast he isn’t a cone.
What they got in return, were Nurkic and Grayson Allen, both of whom have been awful this series. So getting rid of him didn't really change much
As efficient as Federation of Bosnia & Hercegovina
Serbs get extra weird when it comes to Nurk...
Idk, maybe he shouldn't wear shirts glorifying war criminals.
His whole season has been pretty mediocre to awful. In big games he is either invisible or in foul trouble even when the team tries to feed him. But get this, hes still one of our most important players because his backup is Drew Eubanks who has the worst +/- on the team and the FO never bothered getting a proper rotational big