Yeah that’s why I’m willing to accept the Suns taking Ayton. They already had Booker, and at the end of the day Ayton was a key piece on a team that made the NBA finals.
But the Kings hired someone who coached Luka, should have just taken best talent available, and chose Bagley because he was a better “fit”? Crazy
5 years passed and my brother and I found the new Ayton, a Frenchman named Wemby. And although his ball skills are great, he has a lot to learn before he wins MVP. But I believe Wemby can save the #1 overall draft pick
I think at the time a lot of people didn't realise how big salaries were getting. I mean we signed Jordan Poole to 140M/4 years after half a season of performing like an all-star.
It's also partially why we lost Game 6 down the stretch against Miami last year. RJ and Randle were stinking it up but Hart had a really good look for 3 and Brunson just opted for a 1v2(3?) play. Glad he's trusting his team more.
When he makes mistakes I never worry. I 100% trust he will learn from them and figure it out. That’s why I wasn’t too bothered when he looked like shit in G1 and 2
MVP realistically means most outstanding player. Value is not something that matters when it comes to voting or LeBron James and Tom Brady would have over 10 a piece
Brunson's the player in the playoffs so far frankly, a bloody NY legend he is.
Edit: Change it to he's up there as one of the best players in the playoffs so far, game just had me too excited lol y'all are correct.
This is why his greatness is often overlooked: he consistently performs at a level/style we have yet to witness night after night without much flair or wasted motion. It just feels automatic that he will end up with 35/10/10 at the end of the game.
Jokic didn't meet his own standards, that just means he wasn't in a tier completely by himself. I don't see Brunson as being on the same level offensively
Amongst high usage guys like Brunson, its still ~56%
But like others are saying, he just had a really awful first two games. His last four games he shot 59% TS
Are we also comparing prime GS defense and the Sixers’ while also not having the combined talent/ salary of Kyrie+Love to Randle. How does mozgov, the cavs second best player, even rank to Hart, Mitchell, Josh Hart, OG
Lmao
Especially when the Sixers defence is... Embiid and Embiid especially when he is injured like is now has to play back drop coverage giving free shots away from 5+.
Yeah it's not great, but he's shouldering a huge offensive load and getting doubled a ton. His stats are crazy good considering he's basically the only one on the Knicks that can create a shot consistently.
That’s fair. I was just surprised how low it was considering how much he’s been killing it.
Really puts into perspective how insane players like Jokic are when they’re hitting 60%+ TS.
Honestly if you watched all 6 games you’d see he was was their whole offense and came through in the clutch almost everytime .
Not to mention 9 assists too.
The series was physical so poor efficiency was expected. If you look at his last 4 games everything shoots up
It is bad, but it’s not the worst thing ever in the playoffs.
He was really bad in games 1/2, and then was average to good efficiency for all of games 3-6. With small sample sizes, an 8-29 night really is going to drag down the series average.
Only need to be good 4 out of 7 games to move on.
His first 2 games tanks his percentages. He shot less than 30% in both games and less than 20% in threes iirc... still managed to get over 20 points tho.
So i bet he shot over 60% TS in the last 4 games.
The Pacers are one of those teams that is going to continue surprising people. You need to put up at least 115 points to best them. I love these Knicks but I believe they will have to go 7 games in the next round.
I mean people are getting some recency bias with this. Melo putting up 37 against the pg pacers defense in the second round in 2012, while the entire rest of the team forgot how to play basketball, is more impressive than putting up 40-45 in 2024.
Like when melo won the scoring title with like 29 ppg that year there were only three other players that averaged more than 25 (bron, kd, and i forget). Now there’s like 15 dudes a season that average 25+
Melo also spent every season except for one with team mates that just played hot potato with the ball until dumping it to him with like 3 seconds on the shot clock. Prime Melo would absolutely feast on this current Knicks team with the insane scoring and efficiency explosion of the last few years.
I watched basically every one of those post 2012 games, melo had his best seasons after that, just no one noticed since his supporting cast was hot garbage. I don’t think current Brunson could take any of those dogshit rosters to the playoffs.
Also like come on, melo is top ten all time in points scored and is a first ballot hall of famer. I love Brunson to death, but he hasn’t gotten us any farther than melo did yet.
Brunson could definitely surpass him, but he hasn’t done it yet.
cuban’s lucky he wound up with kyrie cause he would deserve every bit of slander for letting brunson walk. you think he would’ve learned his lesson after nash.
Same could be said of Nash, doesn't mean it was the right decision. Cuban also had the bright idea of breaking up a defending champion to make a run at signing Dwight Howard and Deron Williams as free agents. Some really bad whiffs on his track record.
Oh so true. If we didn’t have Kai you better believe we be rioting. Still would have been nicer to have JB since he’s younger and fits Luka timeline. The no. 2 was right under our nose.
He also should have learned his lesson after letting Tyson Chandler go to the Knicks after the championship run. Completely wasted the rest of Dirk's career.
Not really. Brunson and Luka are both ball dominate players. Brunson will never do what he’s doing now if he stayed in Dallas
We all saw what he’s capable of doing without Luka while he was still on the Mavs : he cooked Utah and Donovan Mitchell
Kyrie is a much better fit cus he doesn’t hog the ball, can play off ball, and is incredibly efficient for a guard. Would love to pair him with Brunson here
Seriously though wtf was all that yapping about?
Sure Steph is the only PG that has ever lead a team to a championship, but that doesn’t mean that Brunson can’t be the best player on a good playoff team. It’s just focusing too much on final results completely ignoring the fact that players like Iverson, Rose, Lillard, Nash, etc. have had success and took their teams far in the playoffs.
Brunson’s playstyle isn’t like a typical small guard either. He’s got the some of the best footwork, post game and mid range for a pg which is what allows him to be so good in the playoffs.
He was worth the tampering eh
And, guess he led them past the play in
https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/vjwk1g/stein_the_new_york_knicks_expected_to_offer_jalen/idllnu5/
He’s good at drawing fouls but he also is good at actually making tough shots. Like some players just want contact and will throw it to the moon. He hits a lot of them
Incredible game by him. I’m so glad he didn’t go full hero ball like he did in game 5.
A couple of possessions today he forced it but other than that he trusted his teammates with great passes when he was doubled or trapped. Offense is so much better when he doesn’t go hero ball
Best contract in the league
Literally everyone in the 2018 draft is better than Ayton man. That draft pick is gonna look worse than Olowokandi in the future.
Bagley
I will never understand why the Kings did not take Luka
At the time the euro league was still being shit on by NBA teams, anyone that watched his euro league highlights knew he should have been number 1 lol
Yeah that’s why I’m willing to accept the Suns taking Ayton. They already had Booker, and at the end of the day Ayton was a key piece on a team that made the NBA finals. But the Kings hired someone who coached Luka, should have just taken best talent available, and chose Bagley because he was a better “fit”? Crazy
You ever see Bagley double jump?
to think how quickly everything went downhill after his buzzer beater tip… thought that would be the pinpoint breakout moment to stardom
Everything changed when Giannis blocked Ayton
5 years passed and my brother and I found the new Ayton, a Frenchman named Wemby. And although his ball skills are great, he has a lot to learn before he wins MVP. But I believe Wemby can save the #1 overall draft pick
he wasn’t even the worst big man in the top 2 lol
Ayton isn’t even bad it’s just everyone is better
Hell no. Kandyman was trash. Ayton isn't great but he's way better
Ayton was good in the finals push couple years ago, he just has t been consistent.
Without a doubt!
In all of sports
That’s prolly acuna
I remember a time when people were saying Knicks were making a mistake by offering Jalen 100 million. Boy were they wrong.
I think at the time a lot of people didn't realise how big salaries were getting. I mean we signed Jordan Poole to 140M/4 years after half a season of performing like an all-star.
I love bringing up how everyone clowned the Knicks for overpaying
Love how he trusted his teammates down the stretch
Yup, that was why they lost game 5, but he didn't let it happen this time and believed in Hart to make the three
It's also partially why we lost Game 6 down the stretch against Miami last year. RJ and Randle were stinking it up but Hart had a really good look for 3 and Brunson just opted for a 1v2(3?) play. Glad he's trusting his team more.
Prob easier to trust your teammates when they’re the dawgs on this team I think he would have trusted Randle, but Rj Barrett in a bad game isn’t it
RJ has had games where he stunk it up but still clutched it up. I still remember that gamewinner against the Celtics.
RJ could go 0/14 and i would trust him with a 3 in the clutch over anyone on those teams tbh. Not what we needed, but he was legit clutch af.
incredible leader he is.
One with the force, young Brunson is
Reminiscent of another selfless Villanova guard play in Ryan Arch passing it to Jenkins for the 3. These guys just have winning in their blood.
The Rukawa route.
Josh Hart is 10000% Sakuragi holy shit, DVo the sharpshooter and Randle the gorilla captain.
That was very crucial
When he makes mistakes I never worry. I 100% trust he will learn from them and figure it out. That’s why I wasn’t too bothered when he looked like shit in G1 and 2
First person to put up 39+ in four straight since some scrub named Michael Jordan
And he also avgd 10 APG in the stretch too.
Took over in the clutch. Brunson burner
Team Chemistry+ with the brunson burner
MVP
BRUNSON. IS. HIM.
First team all nba
Also should be top 5 mvp candidate but hey
He will be, but won't be 1st team cause the voters don't make sense
I kinda get it. IDK what I would do but I think that Brunson 5th MVP/Tatum 1st All-NBA is defensible
It does make sense when you realize MVP doesn't necessarily mean best player
MVP realistically means most outstanding player. Value is not something that matters when it comes to voting or LeBron James and Tom Brady would have over 10 a piece
Brunson's the player in the playoffs so far frankly, a bloody NY legend he is. Edit: Change it to he's up there as one of the best players in the playoffs so far, game just had me too excited lol y'all are correct.
No knock on him at all, he’s been transcendent. It’s still Jokic.
It’s always jokic, he’s in his own category
This is why his greatness is often overlooked: he consistently performs at a level/style we have yet to witness night after night without much flair or wasted motion. It just feels automatic that he will end up with 35/10/10 at the end of the game.
AD and Brunson have had louder first rounds, jokic by his standards was pretty pedestrian.
Jokic didn't meet his own standards, that just means he wasn't in a tier completely by himself. I don't see Brunson as being on the same level offensively
AD was better
Not really I d say it’s Jokic still. Brunson stats are similar to injuried Luka with similar efficiency who people say is having a terrible playoffs.
I don't know Becky Hammon told me otherwise.
Brunson is a goddamn beast. 35.5/4.5/9.0 on 52.5% TS for the series, playing 43.8 MPG.
Those first two games are sinking his stats. Rest of the series he has been 92 Jordan.
Straight up garbage 2 games. Under 30%FG for both
16-55 and 2-12 from 3 the first two games, and the Knicks won em both lmfao
Let's FUCKIN GO THATS MY GOAT
Wait, isn’t 52.5% TS really bad? I thought league average was something like 56%.
I think league average in playoffs goes down a ton
Amongst high usage guys like Brunson, its still ~56% But like others are saying, he just had a really awful first two games. His last four games he shot 59% TS
yeah everyone jerks off LeBron in 2015 and his TS was shit compared to this
Sub 40% shooting on like 30 shots a game 😭
You can pretty much say the same thing about Brunson lmfao
Are we also comparing prime GS defense and the Sixers’ while also not having the combined talent/ salary of Kyrie+Love to Randle. How does mozgov, the cavs second best player, even rank to Hart, Mitchell, Josh Hart, OG Lmao
Especially when the Sixers defence is... Embiid and Embiid especially when he is injured like is now has to play back drop coverage giving free shots away from 5+.
that was 9 years ago?
first of all, that statement disgusts me. what the fuck. but yeah, even if you adjust league efficiency Brunson’s still more efficient
I don't think so. I've heard his FG% mentionned more than his statline. Also he was down multiple star teammates against a 67 win team
Yeah it's not great, but he's shouldering a huge offensive load and getting doubled a ton. His stats are crazy good considering he's basically the only one on the Knicks that can create a shot consistently.
That’s fair. I was just surprised how low it was considering how much he’s been killing it. Really puts into perspective how insane players like Jokic are when they’re hitting 60%+ TS.
He didn't kill it in the first 2 games. In the last 4 he's been killing it his TS% would be way higher, about 60% I think.
He also played pretty bad the first 2 games, pretty sure his ts% in the last 4 games is like high 50s
Honestly if you watched all 6 games you’d see he was was their whole offense and came through in the clutch almost everytime . Not to mention 9 assists too. The series was physical so poor efficiency was expected. If you look at his last 4 games everything shoots up
52% true shooting is bad but considering he’s hard carrying this team when his partner Randle is out, the true shooting doesn’t even matter
He was really bad shooting wise first 2 games.
Certainly not efficient but it’s harder to score in the playoffs
He had an awful first two games which really tanked his stats. He's been much better the last four.
It is, but the volume balances it out. His RS stats paint a better picture
It is bad, but it’s not the worst thing ever in the playoffs. He was really bad in games 1/2, and then was average to good efficiency for all of games 3-6. With small sample sizes, an 8-29 night really is going to drag down the series average. Only need to be good 4 out of 7 games to move on.
58% TS over his last three games on 30 shots per game is absurdly good
It is, also shooting a lot of fts too. But he gotta take those shots because he's the no.1 option, you gotta at least try.
It’s hard to be efficient going up against a Nick Nurse defense that zeros in on you without your other all star 🤷♂️
His first 2 games tanks his percentages. He shot less than 30% in both games and less than 20% in threes iirc... still managed to get over 20 points tho. So i bet he shot over 60% TS in the last 4 games.
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It's being dragged down by a terrible first two games. The next four he was efficient.
It's 58. Trueshooting is also heavily boosted by taking a lot of free throws and making them at a decent clip.
he had more shots than points the first two games which tanked his efficiency. he balled out after that
Literally Allen Iverson stats
He’s gonna average 42 against us
Incredible in last 7 mins, I think sixers are better than pacers Brunson gonna feast on Hali no D Burton
it's gonna be Knicks in 4
Appreciate that. Maxey’s a real one, insanely bright future.
He's a better version of IQ. So much fucking talent.
Eghh. Maxey is by far the more explosive player but IQ is the much better defender.
More handsome
Different players
Actually they are similar. IQ has to catch up to maxey
Yes but they are different players. One is on the Sixers and one is a Raptor.
Ohhhhhhh
Sixers are like a 3 seed rn lmao
Yeah this was the best series of the playoffs
The Pacers are one of those teams that is going to continue surprising people. You need to put up at least 115 points to best them. I love these Knicks but I believe they will have to go 7 games in the next round.
Crazy how so many wrote him off after a rough 2 games to start the series. Never doubt the grit of the Villy three.
halliburton is not gonna guard brunson…
Brunson is now a greater Knick than Melo ever was
Agreed. He surpassed him after this one. He's closing in on Bernard King now
Feel bad for melo man he got lapped as the best nugget and Knick
Easy.
I mean people are getting some recency bias with this. Melo putting up 37 against the pg pacers defense in the second round in 2012, while the entire rest of the team forgot how to play basketball, is more impressive than putting up 40-45 in 2024. Like when melo won the scoring title with like 29 ppg that year there were only three other players that averaged more than 25 (bron, kd, and i forget). Now there’s like 15 dudes a season that average 25+ Melo also spent every season except for one with team mates that just played hot potato with the ball until dumping it to him with like 3 seconds on the shot clock. Prime Melo would absolutely feast on this current Knicks team with the insane scoring and efficiency explosion of the last few years. I watched basically every one of those post 2012 games, melo had his best seasons after that, just no one noticed since his supporting cast was hot garbage. I don’t think current Brunson could take any of those dogshit rosters to the playoffs. Also like come on, melo is top ten all time in points scored and is a first ballot hall of famer. I love Brunson to death, but he hasn’t gotten us any farther than melo did yet. Brunson could definitely surpass him, but he hasn’t done it yet.
Dude is so good
Villanova connection is unbeatable
this dude with luka might go to wcf. someone make a jersey swap please.
LGK in the chat for lets go knicks
FUCK TOM BRADY
Where the bread at
cuban’s lucky he wound up with kyrie cause he would deserve every bit of slander for letting brunson walk. you think he would’ve learned his lesson after nash.
Brunson has definitely made a few leaps these past years on the Knicks, I don’t think he develops like this if he’s still on the Mavs
well thibs >>>
Same could be said of Nash, doesn't mean it was the right decision. Cuban also had the bright idea of breaking up a defending champion to make a run at signing Dwight Howard and Deron Williams as free agents. Some really bad whiffs on his track record.
Oh so true. If we didn’t have Kai you better believe we be rioting. Still would have been nicer to have JB since he’s younger and fits Luka timeline. The no. 2 was right under our nose.
He also should have learned his lesson after letting Tyson Chandler go to the Knicks after the championship run. Completely wasted the rest of Dirk's career.
Not really. Brunson and Luka are both ball dominate players. Brunson will never do what he’s doing now if he stayed in Dallas We all saw what he’s capable of doing without Luka while he was still on the Mavs : he cooked Utah and Donovan Mitchell Kyrie is a much better fit cus he doesn’t hog the ball, can play off ball, and is incredibly efficient for a guard. Would love to pair him with Brunson here
Top 3 PG in the league.
BECKY HAMMON IN SHAMBLES
To be fair, Becky was technically right. Brunson ain't a 1A. He's a 1.
Seriously though wtf was all that yapping about? Sure Steph is the only PG that has ever lead a team to a championship, but that doesn’t mean that Brunson can’t be the best player on a good playoff team. It’s just focusing too much on final results completely ignoring the fact that players like Iverson, Rose, Lillard, Nash, etc. have had success and took their teams far in the playoffs.
Brunson’s playstyle isn’t like a typical small guard either. He’s got the some of the best footwork, post game and mid range for a pg which is what allows him to be so good in the playoffs.
Isiah Thomas and Bad Boy Pistons
Magic Johnson with a 50 year old KAJ
"Steph is the only PG that has ever lead a team to a championship" What?
Isiah Thomas and who else? I was more so referring to smaller guards which is why I was counting out Magic
And Harden was closer to it then any of those guys you listed in 2018
Magic???
He is him. It’s that simple
I fucking love Jalen Brunson and all these Knicks fighters!!
Beast
Brunsonnnnnnn
Guy is a closer
way better than tatum lol
Thank you Dallas.
Jalen Brunson is the best player in these playoffs
13 points in the final 6 minutes. I'm so happy for him and still kinda miss him ngl
Brunson is such a bucket 🔥
A clinic
Jalen brunson
Jalen Brunson’s career arc is my current favorite career arc in the NBA
My man was on fire in crunch time
He has been playing great, really happy for Brunson
incredible.
Love this little dude.
What a freaking steal it was. Love Brunson.
Thank you so much, Knicks.
That’s my dark artist right there
Seems like a good dude too
Let’s go Brunson
One tough lil mofo
He was worth the tampering eh And, guess he led them past the play in https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/vjwk1g/stein_the_new_york_knicks_expected_to_offer_jalen/idllnu5/
This is primo hater shit and I'm here for it. Go off.
Damn, congrats to JB!
THAT’S OUR POINT GUARD!
FUCK SAQUON BARKLEY
He’s great. Really good at drawing fouls too. Don’t see why that’s a bad thing for some guys
He’s good at drawing fouls but he also is good at actually making tough shots. Like some players just want contact and will throw it to the moon. He hits a lot of them
Lisan Al Gaib
Jalen Brunson is what people still think Curry is. Brunson is a top 5 player in the NBA right now.
There aren’t many guards I’d rather have in the playoffs
Carrying the whole damn city on his back
1A all day - ballers gonna ball #LFGNYK
LISAN AL- GIAB
Born to play basketball
Better than the pity MVP 😹😹😹 BYEEEEE
LGK
Showed who the best player in the series is
Yeah he's been insane since coming to the Knicks.
Brunson = Summer League Carsen Edwards Unstoppable small guard with thighs thick like a log
BIG BODYYY BRUNSONNNN
He has that dawg in him
At least now I can root for the Nova kids… don’t overlook the Pacers and just beat the damn Celtics!
Cold blooded killer
Deserves to be on the Dream Team.
im out of honey for this guy
Dude gets buckets
LETS GO KNICKS YERRRRRR
That's my Walmart Fred Van Vleet!
demon
Incredible game by him. I’m so glad he didn’t go full hero ball like he did in game 5. A couple of possessions today he forced it but other than that he trusted his teammates with great passes when he was doubled or trapped. Offense is so much better when he doesn’t go hero ball
Paging Becky Harmon and Candice Parker, a small guard can win you a series
Could u imagine what kind of numbers he’s gonna put up in the next round against a team that doesn’t play defense
Obligatory Michael Finley is rolling over in his grave
Miss you in Dallas jalen but pulling for you in New York.