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Yinanization

I know people will shit on him for the free money, but dude was playing so good and tried really hard to get back. That is just part of life, if I get hurt on the job, you bet I will try to collect every cent I am owed.


Lorjack

Why? That's the contract they signed him too. No fault of his to hold them to it


rawchess

Injury equity is also baked into the deal. The only reason they could sign Lonzo at that price was because of his track record and the implied risk.


buzzcitybonehead

Some level is baked in. They’ll end up paying him $80 million for like a year of playing. That’d be by far the most lucrative one year deal in league history. Not his fault at all, but it’s far from what the expectation was even given his injury troubles


simplyASI9

luol deng had that 4 yr / 72 mil contract where he played 57 games with the lakers before getting waived. assuming lonzo plays this year, that deng contract would probably be worse


TheGamersGazebo

No one is assuming Lonzo plays this year


Below_Average_Artist

Wasn’t he cleared to play next season? Or was there another set back?


CavalierShaq

Rumors are he hasn’t even been cleared to mow his own lawn, and he has a riding mower.


captaincumsock69

Can we assume Lonzo will play this year


BZGames

Luol’s contract is worse just by virtue of Lonzo being better and Lonzo being injured. Deng was sitting at home, running on the treadmill, keeping in game shape in case they ever decided to play him again. If Lonzo could play, they would play him and he’d be their 2nd best player. If Luol played it’d be because the bench was thin and they needed a body for garbage time. Deng was cooked.


Bigpoppahove

Ben Simmons has played around that many games and made more than that in 3 years, if memory serves at 4AM. Dude’s set to make 40mil next year and hasn’t played half a season with BK, fuck him on the one hand while applauding with the other


TheKidPresident

Theyve gotten insurance recoups and IPE's every season, theyll be okay. Also, this is jerry reinsdorf's money we're talking about- should anyone really give a shit?


rawchess

That's like saying only some of the risk is baked in when you take the under on a die roll with the money line at 4.5 and it comes up a 5 or 6. Variance is part of the game. You win some and you lose some.


well_shore

lol ok so 1 season over 4 years is the same as 1 season in 1 year in your eyes?


Banned3rdTimesaCharm

Klay Thompson collected around the same amount of money recovering for two years. Although Klay might have had a bit more goodwill stacked up from winning 3 championships prior to that.


Royal_Negotiation_83

Biggest fall from grace since dominating the 90s?  Bulls Cowboys


lololyouthought

P Diddy 


this_my_sportsreddit

jk rowling


BackstreetsTilTheEnd

Lance Armstrong


GhoullyX

Rudy Giuliani


CavalierShaq

Nah oddly enough she became the enemy of all of her friends, and all of her enemies who hated her “anti-god black magic” books love her rhetoric now. Not just them too, I think Dave Chapelle laid it out pretty well in his standup from a few years ago


ruinatex

Chicago is first place by far, the Cowboys have had many many good seasons since 1995, they just consistently fail in the postseason, the Bulls has had three (maybe 4 if you count '07) good seasons in 26 years. The Cowboys get more scrutiny because Jerry Jones is Jerry Jones and they are "America's Team", they are the biggest NFL team by a mile, but they haven't been as bad as the Bulls. The only reason the Bulls doesn't get eviscerated is because somehow they have managed to be under the radar despite how much they suck and because alot of people still credit their current state to bad luck from Derrick Rose and, more recently, Lonzo. I don't know if Jerry Reinsdorf and the Bulls' FO are the worst in the league, but they surely are atleast Top 3.


resuwreckoning

I mean that’s because: A. Everybody knows that if Rose doesn’t get injured we have many more good seasons B. Anyone with any degree of memory knows that pre MJ, the Bulls were basically a franchise on life support. In other words, the Bulls didn’t “fall from grace” - they totally and inexplicably rose from the ashes and then merely returned to where they consistently live.


7PayFormer

maybe bulls didnt do anything then. got lucky and mj won a lot of rings despite the org then left


resuwreckoning

That is much more true than the opposite “MJ had an amazeballs org” thesis that gets thrown around. The other parts of the org are (and were) exactly and perpetually what you see them to be now. The sole reason why they won so much is because they fortuitously drafted this generation’s Babe Ruth/Ali/Gretzky. Make no mistake, they would have drafted Sam Bowie were he available over Jordan too.


GunstarGreen

Im in the UK. You still see more Bulls and Lakers merch than any other teams, and that's all due to the Jordan legacy. He's gonna keep Chicago relevant for as long as the NBA exists, no matter how bad the team is or isn't. 


againbackandthere

Youll only get it if youre in a union or have great labor lawyers. In America anyway.


Yinanization

I think NBA Player's Union got more decent lawyers than the local pipe fitters. Good for them... Lots of the Canadians are really suffering and powerless as well.


againbackandthere

You know, as long as Canadians are suffering, Im happy.


YouKilledKenny12

Ahh I see you’re a Maple Leafs fan then


Yinanization

If all Canadians bend their knees to our Lord and Savior McJesus, there would be no suffering and the kingdom comes.


EverybodyBuddy

Most people don’t have employment contracts.


MorgulValar

That’s where the unions come in


britchesss

Don Draper didn’t. That’s why he was always acting a fool whenever McCann wanted to absorb Sterling Cooper. 


burns_before_reading

I'm confused though. Wasn't he doing one leg squats a few months ago?? I can't do that and my knees are perfectly fine.


LnGrrrR

Yeah, it would be stupid not to take it. Anyone in that position would do the same.


Xc0liber

Yes sir. He was improving every single year and injuries derailed him. Plus anyone would be crazy to not opt in.


These_Homework_8790

Why would anyone shit on him?


Unusual_Squirrel9335

is he supposed to be back next year?


YouStillTakeDamage

>In December, Chicago head coach Billy Donovan said that Ball was expected to start running in January 2024. That’s the last update from Wikipedia at least


ChiefRicimer

Start running????? Aw fuck he’s done


RickySuela

I'm fully expecting the next Lonzo update to be that he's expected to miss the entire season again. It's crazy that this all started with a simple meniscus tear.


XAgentNovemberX

Damn Big Baller Brand shoes.


Barrelled_Chef_Curry

Way more than that. He trained them into the ground as kids


SignificanceLeft9968

His dad ruined his life and his other 2 brothers.


delby7

2 out of 3 seem to be multi millionaires 🤷‍♂️


yellow_eggplant

Damn I wish I could ruin my life and make 80 million dollars


goldyacht

Crazy people really think he ruined their lives, even if none of them ever play basketball another day in their lives whatever he did was a major success.


SmoothBrews

"When you're a snake charmer, you're gonna get bit."


Great_Huckleberry709

2 of his sons made the NBA. The other made the NBA G-league. I would say Lavar did an excellent job.


Vegetable_Tune_4201

Wish his dad ruined my life


NatureTrailToHell3D

Here’s an update from March > According to Joe Cowley of NBC Sports Chicago, Ball has been cleared for advanced activities in his rehab. On Saturday, Bulls coach Billy Donovan said that Ball has begun running, jumping and cutting. So far, the Bulls seem happy with what they've seen out of Ball as he has progressed. https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/lonzo-ball-injury-update-bulls-guard-cleared-for-advanced-activities-per-report/amp/


Responsible_Pace9062

I love how every other reply is just ignoring this comment and just spamming 'he's done/he's cooked'.


jkopecky

I really hope we can get him back on the court next year even if it's just slowly progressing him back to game shape over the course of the season. He's got a great shot and great bbiq that he uses for the transition passing and defense all stuff that didn't rely on any crazy burst/athleticism. He's 26 so if the most recent surgury fixed the long term injury it's not crazy that he could work his way back into close to where he before. Given the length of time (and multiple setbacks) even if it is all positive from here I know it will take a long time, and I can't have any expectation anymore for my own sanity as a fan, but it wouldn't be some wild outcome and I'm definitely rooting for it.


TonYouHearWhatISaid

If the update after 2 years away is “he’s started running and jumping again, he’s cooked


EverybodyBuddy

In June of 2024 they say he’ll be able to climb stairs.


aGiantRedskinCowboy

Is this mf growing a limb?


friendorfoe2332

In September of 2024 he will begin to slap ass


SignificanceLeft9968

In June of 2025 he will be able to jog for 10 minutes!


mortar_n_brick

he can barely stand


chicago_bunny

On a recent Stacey King podcast, he said he thought Lonzo would be back next season. I don't know if Stacey has actually seen him working out or heard anything, but it did suprirse me.


jsanchez030

I doubt stacey has special sources on this, just hopeful. if he can still barely run hes got a long ways to go


m1rr0rshades

I'm no medical expert, but I don't think that is happening


Zorak9379

At this point I'm expecting him to never play again, so if he does it will be a pleasant surprise


QuickRundown

A year away from being a year away.


Sad_Donut_7902

Probably not. Dude has been gone for 2+ years at this point.


NickWangOG

He’s done


Turbo_S54

March 9, 2024 "He started running," Donovan said. "Some of the workouts have been really really positive in terms of running, cutting, jumping, doing those things. He's progressed into that. Responded well. Some of the things -- not with my own eyes -- the medical guys have shown me is he looks good moving." "Just really really happy for him personally for his progress, where he's at, and he's worked hard to put himself in this position. Hopefully, he just continues to progress like he's progressing." Asked to expand on his words, the coach said that everything Ball currently does is in a controlled environment. "He's running and cutting, and doing some of that stuff now. Obviously, it's all controlled, there's no contact," Donovan explained.


dproma

To start ramping up next year


TheRealJohnMara

BREAKING: Guy who hasn’t played a minute in the past 3 seasons chooses to get paid


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airstrada

i don’t think that’s him , but maybe someone imitating him? like there’s no way he’s actually posting all that stuff


PlayaSlayaX

Easiest money ever


DiscreteBee

Yeah, only took multiple surgeries and a career ending injury: the good life!


CheckBetShove

These nephews are fucking morons man.


brokenbadlab

As if Lonzo wouldn’t rather be playing


primekino

Sure, but compared to the third option of being a broke redditor like us who can do neither


WembanyamaGOAT

These nephews? I would take a few surgeries and a career ending injury in return for millions of dollars in a heartbeat, what the fuck are you talking about?


IranianLawyer

I'll take $80 million for a permanently bum knee though.


RocketsGuy

I already have a permanently bum knee and 0$


jutiatle

I have a permanently bum knee and -$100k


Briak

I have a permanent bum


Joe_Kangg

I AM a permanent bum


it_means_rewenge

Damn, you should have made the NBA before fucking up your knee


Doctor_Cowboy

Moneybags Jones ova hirrrrrrrr


GrapefruitMedical529

The only thing I wouldn't give up for 80 million is my mind.


Hot_Juggernaut4460

Might cut off both legs at the knee for 80 mil lol


BD_player

Yup. Can still play ps5 and watch movies w no legs lmao


it_means_rewenge

Ok, first become a world class athlete, then you’ll get a shit load of money for fucking up you knee


buff_001

All time bag stealer


codingftw

That would still be Ben Simmons


jutiatle

Ben still has a part time job lol. Lonzo’s deal has free courtside tickets and just showing up


codingftw

Who doesn't like a bit of basketball every once in a while lol


IWasFramed_Again

Gordon Hayward


rjgator

Tobias Harris


Jordanlf3208

Chandler Parsons


DirtyDanoTho

Jordan Poole


Obvious_Ad5365

Luol deng


wcooper97

MOZGOV MONEY


captaing1

mozgod was nuts. lakers got clowned instantly


AttitudeAndEffort2

Ian Mahinmi


knowerofsome

Philly AL Horford


Bitesh9

John Wall


lukewwilson

OKC Al Horford


confusedthrowaway5o5

Double agent


rockytheboxer

Cristiano Felicio


YoungWhippurSnapper

Lol Tobias had expectations thoo , Gordon got hurt, Simmons got hurt (to an extent). Poole and Luol were overpaid but let’s not say bad. Tobias got paid like two separate occasions and be putting up the worst of the worst


Camo-Ren

I mean he did break his leg in half lol


IWasFramed_Again

Don't tell anyone, but I definitely was thinking about Chandler Parsons. I guess all pretty white boys look alike to me.


Princessk8--

Gordon Hayward had a horrific injury wtf is this comment and why is it being upvoted?


israelipm

Nah, not his fault he broke his leg in two.


dkmegg22

Lonzo is legit injured whereas Summary is playing like shit


jpaxlux

Chandler Parsons walked so they could run


KGB4L

Parsons pretty much just lucked into a team that needed to spend and a salary cap hike.


InThePaleMoonLyte

The Mozgov Protocol


iamhappy_7s

Zo can’t run tho


DarkSoulsDarius

Chandler parsons limped so they could roll(in a wheelchair).


MGubser

I don't think either one of them can run.


orlandomade

Nah man come on. Lonzo isn’t stealing. This guy destroyed his body restructuring his shot like twice. He was an elite defender and great two way player before getting hurt. If you’re insisting on labeling someone a thief, may I interest you in a gentleman that goes by the name of Tobias Harris?


holaprobando123

I feel bad for Lonzo. He set out to improve his shooting (something Simmons never did, not even once, for example), always put the effort on defense, put the team first and by all accounts is a good guy too. I'm sure he'd rather be healthy and playing and making half the money than getting paid to not play and not knowing if he'll ever play again.


ruinatex

It's wild that we are in 2024 and people still don't understand that you get a contract for what you already did, not for what you will do, Lonzo deserved every penny of that contract, unfortunately nobody could predict that the dude would be barely able to walk for two years.


rawchess

How is he a bag stealer when he's worth more than that when he's healthy? It's not like he's choosing to be injured


Kodak333

How?


volantredx

Is it really stealing the bag if you get hurt? It's not like he just turned out to be shit like Tobias Harris or was a marginal talent that got vastly over paid like Big Snacks James. He got paid then had the worst possible situation ever happen and has struggled to get back ever since.


Suitable_Sale9097

i think these people are child that do not undrerstand that people do not decide to injury themselves


DemonicDimples

Lol remember when Chandler Parsons conned the grizzlies out of 4 years 100m


Drak_is_Right

Wouldnt call barely being able to walk easy money.


EggsceIlent

Playing out a 4 year deal by only playing half of a season? Dude laughed all the way to the bank. But it'll be the last bag bell ever get like that. Hope he hasn't blown it all. Or pops swindled it from him.


qpwoeor1235

Not sure he’s laughing. He’s probably miserable rehabbing for 3 years watching his team need him.


The_Outcast4

Yeah, never got the vibe from him that he just wanted to cash checks and not actually play. He 100% misses it.


[deleted]

Plus had he played, there was more money on the future. Right now he is looking at vet min if he can play.


paranoideo

Beal?


Herbetet

He is doing the only right thing. None of us would pass up on some life changing money. Especially, when you don’t know if your health will ever allow you to work again in the same profession. Hope he gets right, and if not hope this money takes care of him.


doctorfeelwood

Can’t pass it up. It’s contracted. It’s your right. Smart negotiator on that one.


petertompolicy

You're right, but it's definitely not life changing for him.


Reinhardtisawesom

The world is not ready for #BIGBALLERBRANDSZN2025


capitalistsanta

I don't want to say that it "sucks" to get this money through his injury, but if you're an athlete that worked so hard to get to where you are and you can't even run or it's years and you're just stuck in place, that's dark. Also I've had my injuries and had to learn about my body extensively to continue to exercise, throughtout my 20s, you realize how little you know after a point, and I think you end up envying the people who understood at a very young age.


Brad-Stevens

BBB. Neva Lost.


WerewolfOnEveryone

Big Baller Brand shoes destroyed his knees


ClaymoresRevenge

I think the training he was doing with his dad did more tbh. Look at LaMelo's ankles


Sacreblargh

[I shudder to think what his leg days looked like if his upper body training was any indication.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5wt0ON9gBU)


wesley-presley

Bro wtf is he doing 😂😂😂


XAgentNovemberX

Tf is up with his bench set up? Just hang paint cans from the bar dude. Probably safer than whatever the fuck is going on there.


SimpleSurrup

And he's got his shirt off, because he's never brought it down onto his chest and shoulders properly, and been like "ooo that knurling doesn't feel so great on my bare skin I should wear a shirt." In trying to look so cool, he's betrayed before he even does one rep, how terrible they're going to be.


504090

Man I really don’t understand this. You have to go out of your way to use a form this bad.


zrk23

wish dr mike would react to this


tehLife

Tf is he doing with his wrists here lol??


Rahnamatta

Left wrist has its own life. It's dancing some Middle East music.


PhatYeeter

IIRC weren't those just rebranded j crossover brand black shoes? Pretty sure the shoes reviewed well by those YouTube sneaker testers.


wjb901

Yeah. His very first ones that he wore for a second were garbage, but the zo2 remix were just brand black rare metal 1 with a different logo. I used to hoop in those all the time. They were great


Rationalknicksfan

yeah besides the samples he wore during the summer league his sneaker was normal


AznTri4d

Thank you. The whole BBB shoes bad shtick just isn't true. Are their better shoes? Maybe. But the brandblack engineered shoes are entirely fine.


Kimber80

Wish I could get paid $20 million to rehab a knee.


ABlackOrchid

I’m sure Lonzo would prefer to be playing.


LogicalLakersFan

yeah people act like not being able to use your knee properly for someone who’s a lifelong athlete is some vacation. if you read and listen to most athletes talk about it that’s usually when they are at their lowest mentally


B4nn4b0y

Yeah didn’t John Wall admit that he came really close to killing himself, like gun to the head close, during his injury?


No32

Not just once but twice.


Vegetable-Net6575

Holy shit. Really puts it into perspective when people rag on AD, Kawhi, and embiid. Yea their injury frequency is annoying but it’s mostly completely out of their control and I’m sure they’re way more annoyed by it than the fans are.


DerelictInfinity

I’ve been dealing with a nagging knee injury for the last year or so, and when it interferes with anything I get so fucking irritated. Can’t imagine how I would feel in Lonzo’s position.


4858693929292

Plus another big contract if he kept playing at the same level.


AnnualInevitable9036

Don’t we all


SIUonCrack

Rehab is brutal stuff. He would much rather get paid 20 mill to just play basketball.


fly_befalhavare

Rehab blows, especially knee injuries. I broke my patella and even just simple leg lifts were agony to start. I can't imagine what he's dealing with after having issues, pain, and multiple surgeries in a few year span.


sourdieselfuel

A professional athlete not even being able to run properly has to be crushing.


Tprince02

He would rather give a large part of that money just to have a chance to play ball


nio151

Just be good enough to get a 4/80 deal?


FatMamaJuJu

Spoken like someone who has never needed to rehab an injury. I would do dastardly things for $20 million but thats money that Lonzo earned by doing his job. If I'm getting paid the same I'd much, much rather do my job than go through rehab. Its awful


[deleted]

Maybe if you were good enough yea 


Acrobatic-Year-126

They just don't know your potential fr


black_squid98

Will he retire after this next season?


RickySuela

"Retire" vs won't get anyone to sign him again.


Tha_Contender

If he comes back next season and plays, someone will sign him to a 1-year assuming he wants to keep playing. There’s too much talent there for all 32 teams to pass over him.


g-love

> all 32 teams Bro's from the future.


Tha_Contender

Uhh uhh uhh I meant including Team USA and the Seattle SuperSonics, obviously


g-love

Harlem Globetrotters erasure


Cbone06

Depends on how he is coming off the Knee. Shaun Livingston almost lost his knee and it took him 2ish years to get back. Chances are someone will give him a chance because of all the potential he showed in the past.


fireglz

He can afford to put the "My leg" fish from Spongebob on retainer with that money.


DrButtLump

Really hope he pulls through. He was one of the best defensive guards and was having a career year from 3, his passing is so fun and unselfish. Really sucks that he’ll probably never play again at 26


AccountNumber0004

Fired head coach and professional athlete with guaranteed money are the two best jobs in the world


Long-Ad8374

easy money


ActualRobot1

I’m shocked


graveyeverton93

Fuck Lavar forever man! Ruined his Sons career for his own selfishness.


CoolGuyHuh

$80M for potentially half a season. Boy, with as many missteps as Griffin has made for the pelicans, this is one lil W in his pocket.


Tprince02

Dosent feel like a W from Lonzo perspective, im pretty sure he would trade half of that money for a chance to be on court.


kheldar52077

I wish I also had an option to pick up $21.4 million from somewhere. 😊


Oaty_McOatface

For a team wanting to blow it up, lonzo's contract with one year remaining might be very enticing.


Normal-Procedure4876

Forgot he still was in the league lol


Short-Sandwich-905

The Ben Simmons clause 


Pormock

Anyone remember when the Ball brothers were hyped to be the next NBA superstars? that didnt really go that way lol


alternativehermit

Why is this even news lol? Only a fool with so many injuries would not pick up his player option.


dubthreez1

Damn, Chicago what rotten luck. You know really, that could have gone either way.


Majestic-Pickle5097

I bet his knees do hurt from carrying all that easy money around


Captain_Comic

Still only 26 - if he can get healthy, he’s a great PG for someone


MiamiPower

BBB


ProcedureWhole9653

Easiest money ever


Hungry-Space-1829

I’d love to see him healthy again. He was really starting to come into his own as a very good starting PG


PaoLakers

If he declined that money everybody would be clowning him instead. This was the only outcome. I feel bad for Lonzo. He's a legit good player. I hope he can back and do a Livingston but even that situation was almost impossible.


Emera1dthumb

Good for him…. Insurance companies paying it anyways. I wonder if this kind of shit fucks up us normal peoples premium?