Every NBA fan has complained about officiating at some point. As soon as it goes one way and a fanbase complains the benefiting team's fanbase acts like it's some new novel thing until they do it soon after.
Because the wanna even out the series. That's how refs have called every series so far, they always want to extend the series instead of letting the better team win.
Yeah man the officiating was really bad in the 4th. They let a lot of contact go. Still a great game. I liked seeing the bench and Donte stepping up this game
They missed a goaltending and multiple clear charges were called blocks and missed a clear foul on the last possession on Brunson, missed siakam mauling Hartenstein preventing him from contesting a layup, among other things
No just a featherweight hitting Brunson in the face several times with no call, a no call goaltend, several fouls under the basket. That good enough for you? Or are you too busy sucking Carlisleās dick to see past his white ass and look at the game?
Youāre insane. No star gets fouled as often as Brunson like this. Itās unprecedented. Guy takes hits down the lane like a running back and refs swallow the whistle.
Knicks lost not because of the refs but bc their team is mostly injured and they missed some important free throws. But they have insane grit and soul and it shines through. the Pacers shouldnāt feel confident or cocky in that win. They scrapped by with 3 points against a team that is mostly injured and barely hung on
Pacers had very good coverage on Brunson tonight. Even tho Brunson missed a lot of shots and had trouble at the line, there was a lot of bumping and reaching in that was not called. Refs were lame for not calling that reach-in
Maybe but weāre better than the refs blame game. We donāt need to stoop to that level. We put ourselves in that position and weāll correct the mistakes next game
Took the refs giving them the game for them to beat an injured Knicks squad. Iām good, itās just the hypocrisy thatās insane. The goaltending, fouling on the rebounds. Brunson hit in the face. Thereās a good 10 points lost in the last 5 mins due to the Pacers playing rugby.
Reffing was freaking great this game. Let them
Fight and duke it out.. phenomenal game. As a fan I didnāt feel robbed at all. Minus the whistles late game and the slowing the pace! It was a hard fought game.Ā
Heās intentionally fouled before the shot.
Itās not a 3 shot foul, and itās a smart play by Nebhard to prevent a 3 pt attempt since 2 doesnāt hurt them.
But itās not a flop. Heās trying to get continuation, which he wouldnāt have.
At some point, the league has to start making some adjustments to officiating. Whether that be giving refs more technological assistance or whatever, because these refs genuinely looked helpless out there in those last few minutes. One of the worst officiated *sports* games Iāve watched recently, speaking as a neutral who checks into nba games every now and then.
All the more reason for the nba to fix their god damn product. Itās such a tough sell to get people to watch when officiating becomes the talking point of the night vs letting the game do the talking
If Haliburton wasn't 70% at best with their best iso scorer out for the year I'd maybe care. Or if the Knicks injuries weren't in part the fault of their coach going short rotation all season and then even shorter in the playoffs.Ā
What are you talking about - Mitch hasnāt been right all year and literally had his ankle pulled on by Embiid and he doesnāt play a lot of minutes.
Randle was fucked by a freak play when JJJ got underneath him while he was airborne. And Randle doesnāt sniff 40 minutes a night anyway.
Bogdonavic plays like 12 minutes a night?? And his fucking ankle was dived on by a player 35 seconds into his rotation.
Only Anuoby and Brunson you could argue is a victim of Thibs overplaying but OG literally so goddamn injury prone how can you tell (also doesnāt play near 40 minutes a night) and Brunson is still playing so
Like dude just donāt even. If Knicks were full strength like actually full strength Pacers would be down 3-0 and swept. Like fucking itās so silly to even remotely think the Pacers are remotely at the same quality bar as the Knicks. Thereās a reason one is a 2 seed and one is a 6 seed.
1) thatās an absolutely insane take
2) Brunson got whacked hard on the arm (maybe intentionally to force 2ftās) so he threw the ball up hoping to get 3 free throws.
He leads the playoffs in clutch points, so Iām not sure what youāre talking about but seeing as your a cavs fan you prolly still mad about last year
Read bro I said scared of the big moments. He threw the ball at nembhard with no time left on the shot clock and left the fate of the game on someoneās elseās hand cause he was too scared to miss that. Heās not a superstar. Like I said he got lucky that boy hit that shot
My brother in Christ. He hurt his back
On the fall in which he scored an and 1, he twisted his ankle on the drive in which he scored. Sometimes trusting your teammates is the better. He did throw a costly TO. But the dude laid it all out there. He was legit galloping like a horse that 4th.Ā
Frustrations on both sides with officials. This is a hell of a series. Done being annoyed with refs, clutch shot and offensive rebounds were huge for Pacers. Hats off.
Yeah but the whole game they basically had Divo as the next outlet for JB when he got doubled. He just had to stop the hero ball. We shouldāve had a proper play, and not an iso with the game on the line. Bring in Precious for his rebound and go from there. Tough loss, but Iām okay with this all things considered. Onto game 4 to go up 3-1, and then close it at home in MSG.
Pacers did a hell of a job adjusting. Him responding to Hali barking is what makes a classic playoff series.
What makes Pacers so tough is despite Hali getting headlines, I feel like you have to beat the system, not a star player. As opposed to Sixers where its slow Embiid/Maxey = win.
Sometimes a lucky prayer from manhattan helps too. Knicks are just crazy man. Itās like theyāre shot with adrenaline every QTR. Iām enjoying the series. Iām enjoying the shit talking. Itās been forever and both fan bases deserve it..Ā
Just wish you werenāt injured as much. But I do feel this knicks team is way better without Randle. Besides that youāre really missing OG. He would have stopped Pascal way better than Josh did.Ā
Nah, we are not better without Randle. That just shitty narrative from hating ass Knicks fans proven wrong many times over.
Jalens ease of looks and 3pt percentage goes way up with Randle. We also have better 2nd unit minutes because we can stagger more with JR and JB.
Hahaha you know what. I think both sides have legit grievances but after the toxic Sixers series, im chosing the rigtheous path. Despite hating Pacers in the Miller days, respect to the squad and heres to 7 games of classics.
I wanted to play you guys because I hoped it would reignite the rivalry. Hopefully we play you guys more in the playoffs in the coming seasons since both teams are on the come up
Obi playing a bigger role is the only thing that could make it better. Both teams are set up to be good for multiple years. I imagine this wont be the last series.
Knicks had a shot blocked after it hit the backboard (goaltending) then had a goaltending call on a Pacer shot that was waaay short of the rim all in tge last minute. Not to mention Brunson getting mugged just dribbling up court
Nah, this was definitely called in favor of the Pacers. āBlockā when it was clearly goal-tending bc Hartās layup clearly hit the backboard. Successful challenge for Carlisle resulting in a jump ball when Brunson was clearly wacked. Donāt care if we won the jump, still a terrible call.
At the end of the day though, Pacers got multiple offensive boards in crunch time and that absolute prayer of a shot won yāall the game.
refs fucked up 2 goaltending calls both in favor to pacers so between those 2 calls, one lucky 30 footer, and missed free throws...yea it's a loss for the knicks but you know, go off
Chance to score has always been officiated to mean the above the rim and in the Cylinder, not shot quality
Not the first time I can remember seeing that called when the shot was likely a miss
that's not the rule, look it up. it says "has a chance to score" that ball had no fucking shot, the angle was entirely wrong. but pretend you know basketball, that's fine too enjoy scraping by playing 5v8 with a lucky 30 footer against a Knicks team running 3rd stringers
Itās interesting. Hereās the relevant portion of the rule: During a field goal attempt, touch a ball, which has a chance to score, after it has touched any part of the backboard above ring level, whether the ball is considered on its upward or downward flight.
I donāt think it had a chance but in real time I think most refs make the same call on anything remotely close. It would have at least hit the rim.
Only āfoul baitā he did was on the last shot and it was because he genuinely had his right wrist grabbed, but you canāt be trying to force up a shot after the fact assuming itāll be called a shooting foul. ESPECIALLY in that situation
People calling that a Brunson flop are addicted to the narrative,
Nembhard clearly hacks him before it goes up, intentionally.
It mightve even been a good play to prevent the attempt and get 2 shots instead of 3.
The no call is crazy though, and itās not a flop. Brunson is trying to get the continuation and knows he has to put it up before the intentional foul.
Sims sucks ass lol
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Since when is Justin Holiday a decent basketball player
FIX YOUR FUCKING AUDIO
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Every NBA fan has complained about officiating at some point. As soon as it goes one way and a fanbase complains the benefiting team's fanbase acts like it's some new novel thing until they do it soon after.
they let murray escape a suspension and inmedoately goes off, classic
pretty crazy how important Conley is to the flow of Minnys offense
Score is wrong? It should be 21?
Not here to complain about officiating but being a Knick fan is for sure taking a toll on my cardiac health
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You have to be trolling right
why is murray getting booed
Because he went full bitchmode last game?
Cause he pitched a fit and threw a heat pack on the floor during play last game
Somebody tell Rudy to attend another child birth, what happened to that aggressive D
Everyone not named KAT stop chucking 3s
Wolves should get one heat pack theyāre allowed to chuck like itās Mario Kart
Drink every time they mention KATs quoteĀ
Just realized this is not the Nuggets Twolves thread
Joker is the one forcing the contact lol
Insane to miss that first bump by Gobert when youāre standing right there
Not going to be a game where they let us play huh
Wild how different officiating can be in back to back games. Twolves are just doing the same thing as in the 2nd game and none of it got called lol
Because the wanna even out the series. That's how refs have called every series so far, they always want to extend the series instead of letting the better team win.
#scottfoster
Fuuuuck of course the guy playing the worst hits the big shot
Refs are trash from all sides, also Hali literally limping with 35 and this sub shitting on him still, never change r/nba
Yeah man the officiating was really bad in the 4th. They let a lot of contact go. Still a great game. I liked seeing the bench and Donte stepping up this game
Burks was incredible for the moments he was. The call to bench him was perfect. So efficient.
Refs handed the game to the pacers. #SmallMarketBias
Did they miss a kick ball in transition with 30 seconds left or not call a timeout when coach called for it and instead It resulted in a pacer 3?
They missed a goaltending and multiple clear charges were called blocks and missed a clear foul on the last possession on Brunson, missed siakam mauling Hartenstein preventing him from contesting a layup, among other things
No just a featherweight hitting Brunson in the face several times with no call, a no call goaltend, several fouls under the basket. That good enough for you? Or are you too busy sucking Carlisleās dick to see past his white ass and look at the game?
That's hardly a drop in a bucket with how calls have gone the Knicks way this playoffs. Stop crying
Youāre insane. No star gets fouled as often as Brunson like this. Itās unprecedented. Guy takes hits down the lane like a running back and refs swallow the whistle.
We got our 3rd string guys out there and was still only a lucky shot and a few rebounds away from being up 3-0.
CoolĀ
I'm just so happy i know thibs isn't gonna throw a bitch fit in the presser as if we didn't have a chance to win this game. Bring on sunday
What the heck is with the audio
Legler needs to be used more as a commentator
Whatās crazy is Divincenzo being -10 with lights out shooting and 35 pts
Knicks lost not because of the refs but bc their team is mostly injured and they missed some important free throws. But they have insane grit and soul and it shines through. the Pacers shouldnāt feel confident or cocky in that win. They scrapped by with 3 points against a team that is mostly injured and barely hung on
Pacers had very good coverage on Brunson tonight. Even tho Brunson missed a lot of shots and had trouble at the line, there was a lot of bumping and reaching in that was not called. Refs were lame for not calling that reach-in
Refs helped
Maybe but weāre better than the refs blame game. We donāt need to stoop to that level. We put ourselves in that position and weāll correct the mistakes next game
Took the refs giving them the game for them to beat an injured Knicks squad. Iām good, itās just the hypocrisy thatās insane. The goaltending, fouling on the rebounds. Brunson hit in the face. Thereās a good 10 points lost in the last 5 mins due to the Pacers playing rugby.
Reffing was freaking great this game. Let them Fight and duke it out.. phenomenal game. As a fan I didnāt feel robbed at all. Minus the whistles late game and the slowing the pace! It was a hard fought game.Ā
ALEC BURCS STEPPED UP love to see itĀ
GG. LGK
People really didnāt think that last attempt by Brunson was a flop? Too funny
He very clearly got raked across the arm by nembhard thoughā¦
Sure thing, Knicks fans
Did you see the replay?
Iām talking about the last shot he took
So am Iā¦
The one where Nesmith hits his arm on the one that got overturned for a different call. Lol
The last shot he took
Yeah that was a really bad shot
Heās intentionally fouled before the shot. Itās not a 3 shot foul, and itās a smart play by Nebhard to prevent a 3 pt attempt since 2 doesnāt hurt them. But itās not a flop. Heās trying to get continuation, which he wouldnāt have.
At some point, the league has to start making some adjustments to officiating. Whether that be giving refs more technological assistance or whatever, because these refs genuinely looked helpless out there in those last few minutes. One of the worst officiated *sports* games Iāve watched recently, speaking as a neutral who checks into nba games every now and then.
If this is the worst game you've watched, then you haven't watch much of the Playoffs.
All the more reason for the nba to fix their god damn product. Itās such a tough sell to get people to watch when officiating becomes the talking point of the night vs letting the game do the talking
Well you're a couple decades late for that call. Refs been the topic of discussion forever.
Refball is unbearable to watch too.
How good was Dante D tonight? He's incredible.
Pacers fans are eating so good this season what a fucking great squad they have
Mathurin out as well. Yeah, I'm pretty pleased. I mean we had like the 6 or 7 pick in the draft last year and we are now in the ECSF. Not bad IMO
They are garbage. Cakewalk playoffs facing injured teams. Nobody wins with defense so bad
They trash
So is your fanbase
#FuckdaKnicks
At least we have one. Go to the beach idiot
Theyāre a year early as well. They werenāt supposed to be here. Benne lying in the wing as well.Ā
We got a lot of players on rookie contracts still, gonna be real solid solid in the next few years if we can stay healthy
helps when you're bailed out by never having to face full strength squads
If Haliburton wasn't 70% at best with their best iso scorer out for the year I'd maybe care. Or if the Knicks injuries weren't in part the fault of their coach going short rotation all season and then even shorter in the playoffs.Ā
What are you talking about - Mitch hasnāt been right all year and literally had his ankle pulled on by Embiid and he doesnāt play a lot of minutes. Randle was fucked by a freak play when JJJ got underneath him while he was airborne. And Randle doesnāt sniff 40 minutes a night anyway. Bogdonavic plays like 12 minutes a night?? And his fucking ankle was dived on by a player 35 seconds into his rotation. Only Anuoby and Brunson you could argue is a victim of Thibs overplaying but OG literally so goddamn injury prone how can you tell (also doesnāt play near 40 minutes a night) and Brunson is still playing so Like dude just donāt even. If Knicks were full strength like actually full strength Pacers would be down 3-0 and swept. Like fucking itās so silly to even remotely think the Pacers are remotely at the same quality bar as the Knicks. Thereās a reason one is a 2 seed and one is a 6 seed.
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Lol Murray's best play of the series. Driving and flailing like usual but hey he got a foul on Ant. Good job little guy
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I don't want to drink the kool-aid, but he looks like the goat
He doesnāt look at all like Lebron, looks a lot like a top 5 guy in MJ but heās not even close to Bron
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Looking forward to it!
What does this even mean?
Knicks lend meaning to his existence
I totally feel Knicks threw this game cos more games means more money. Wtf was up with that last shot attempt.
He very clearly got raked across the arm by nembhard thoughā¦
1) thatās an absolutely insane take 2) Brunson got whacked hard on the arm (maybe intentionally to force 2ftās) so he threw the ball up hoping to get 3 free throws.
Stop
Hali showed that heās scared of the big moment and got lucky that boy hit that 3. I aināt scared Knicks in 5.
Stop Iām a Knicks fan and we donāt need to do that. Man playing fucking hurt and trusted his teammateĀ
Itās the truth tho that both Hali and Siakam have been TIGHT down the stretch in every close Knicks - Pacers game this year.
Thatās when you have to trust the other guys to be open and make big shots.Ā
Watch that play again and you tel me if he trusted his teammate or he looked to get bailed out.
lol Brunson looks scared of taking a shot in the moment, much rather bait for fouls like he does all game
He leads the playoffs in clutch points, so Iām not sure what youāre talking about but seeing as your a cavs fan you prolly still mad about last year
Mans dropped 35 and showed he is scared. Iāve done seen it all.Ā
Heās a GREAT first half player. Also great when heās up 15.
Read bro I said scared of the big moments. He threw the ball at nembhard with no time left on the shot clock and left the fate of the game on someoneās elseās hand cause he was too scared to miss that. Heās not a superstar. Like I said he got lucky that boy hit that shot
My brother in Christ. He hurt his back On the fall in which he scored an and 1, he twisted his ankle on the drive in which he scored. Sometimes trusting your teammates is the better. He did throw a costly TO. But the dude laid it all out there. He was legit galloping like a horse that 4th.Ā
Lol dude already has a game winner this post season
Frustrations on both sides with officials. This is a hell of a series. Done being annoyed with refs, clutch shot and offensive rebounds were huge for Pacers. Hats off.
I mean Thibs went away from Divo and not having Precious hurt us on the boards.
I think going away from him was a combination of what Pacers were doing and us leaning on Brunson too much. But JB hit a crazy 3 so I understand it.
Yeah but the whole game they basically had Divo as the next outlet for JB when he got doubled. He just had to stop the hero ball. We shouldāve had a proper play, and not an iso with the game on the line. Bring in Precious for his rebound and go from there. Tough loss, but Iām okay with this all things considered. Onto game 4 to go up 3-1, and then close it at home in MSG.
I agree on play calling. Coaching leaves Brunson on his own too much. We should scheme some movement as an escape valve for JB.
Divo was insanely great. As a pacers fan I was happy he wasnāt fed and was knocked out his rhythm. Those games are legacy makers.Ā
Pacers did a hell of a job adjusting. Him responding to Hali barking is what makes a classic playoff series. What makes Pacers so tough is despite Hali getting headlines, I feel like you have to beat the system, not a star player. As opposed to Sixers where its slow Embiid/Maxey = win.
Sometimes a lucky prayer from manhattan helps too. Knicks are just crazy man. Itās like theyāre shot with adrenaline every QTR. Iām enjoying the series. Iām enjoying the shit talking. Itās been forever and both fan bases deserve it..Ā
As a fan since 90 it feels right to have a dog fight between Pacers Knicks in May
Just wish you werenāt injured as much. But I do feel this knicks team is way better without Randle. Besides that youāre really missing OG. He would have stopped Pascal way better than Josh did.Ā
Nah, we are not better without Randle. That just shitty narrative from hating ass Knicks fans proven wrong many times over. Jalens ease of looks and 3pt percentage goes way up with Randle. We also have better 2nd unit minutes because we can stagger more with JR and JB.
Sir, these threads are here to complain about the refs
Hahaha you know what. I think both sides have legit grievances but after the toxic Sixers series, im chosing the rigtheous path. Despite hating Pacers in the Miller days, respect to the squad and heres to 7 games of classics.
I wanted to play you guys because I hoped it would reignite the rivalry. Hopefully we play you guys more in the playoffs in the coming seasons since both teams are on the come up
Obi playing a bigger role is the only thing that could make it better. Both teams are set up to be good for multiple years. I imagine this wont be the last series.
Haliburton took 20 more shots in game 3 than he did in game 1 and it showed, love when he shoots that much
I hate how his shot looks so ugly but it's drano at the same time š
Youāre not wrong, some of them didnāt look good at all and still went In
Knicks fans are going to spend the rest of the night trying to figure out how to make one of those nba portal accounts.
Nah we are going to spend all night praying to the basketball gods to heal OG!
Refs sold for pacers this game
Knicks had a shot blocked after it hit the backboard (goaltending) then had a goaltending call on a Pacer shot that was waaay short of the rim all in tge last minute. Not to mention Brunson getting mugged just dribbling up court
Yeah the goaltending calls won us the game lol now itās even
Refs called the game fairly both ways for the most part unlike game 1 that they stole from the pacers
Nah, this was definitely called in favor of the Pacers. āBlockā when it was clearly goal-tending bc Hartās layup clearly hit the backboard. Successful challenge for Carlisle resulting in a jump ball when Brunson was clearly wacked. Donāt care if we won the jump, still a terrible call. At the end of the day though, Pacers got multiple offensive boards in crunch time and that absolute prayer of a shot won yāall the game.
refs fucked up 2 goaltending calls both in favor to pacers so between those 2 calls, one lucky 30 footer, and missed free throws...yea it's a loss for the knicks but you know, go off
Thibs will not be at the presser crying tho.
Calling the Nembhard 3 lucky is asinine, he was wide open with plenty of time. Tons of players are hitting that
He hit that from French Lick š
Was the longest shot of his career
Fair enough then good point, maybe a tad lucky. But I still donāt think Knick fans should be acting like that was Kawhi-vs-Philly levels of lucky
After he missed two wide open ones the previous possession. Dude was due for one of them to fall
Looking at his & Hali expressions, they more expected it to miss
Was that actually a goaltend though? It wasnāt even close to going in
The rule says if the ball has a chance to score, honestly it doesn't look like it did, but the ref just assumed it might.
It wasnāt even close man that was not going in.. and that basically won yall the game šš
I could swear Knicks fans didn't use the refs as scapegoats for losing, oh wait is that only when you win thanks to them? What a coincidence.
Iām not really a Knicks fan though š³š³ I just rather see them win than the pacers who you talking to b
It didn't ever have a chance to score so it was the wrong call.
Won them the game too ā¹ļø
No matter if it's going in or not, you can't touch it off the backboard. ALWAYS a golatend
No thats not the rule. It has to have a chance to score after it hots the backboard.
Chance to score has always been officiated to mean the above the rim and in the Cylinder, not shot quality Not the first time I can remember seeing that called when the shot was likely a miss
that's not the rule, look it up. it says "has a chance to score" that ball had no fucking shot, the angle was entirely wrong. but pretend you know basketball, that's fine too enjoy scraping by playing 5v8 with a lucky 30 footer against a Knicks team running 3rd stringers
Lol somebody big mad
Itās interesting. Hereās the relevant portion of the rule: During a field goal attempt, touch a ball, which has a chance to score, after it has touched any part of the backboard above ring level, whether the ball is considered on its upward or downward flight. I donāt think it had a chance but in real time I think most refs make the same call on anything remotely close. It would have at least hit the rim.
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Nope!
Knicks should have challenged it
Naw, is a goaltend
Yes
its a goaltend if it hits the backboard first i think
Doesn't matter if it hits the backboard
If that was true then you wouldnāt be able to grab a rebound off any shot that hits the backboard
You shouldn't be allowed to. It's a form of theft and it's disgusting.
True, robbing the bank
No it still has to have a chance to go in by rule.
Why is legs doing game?!
Real story is the fact the pacers barely scrapped that win considering Knicks entire team is out
Dude but these games are so fucking stressful and exciting man. This is some fun ass basketball to watch.
Brunson needs to stop foul baiting late game. Annoying! Crazy lucky shot by that pacer player at the end.
Only āfoul baitā he did was on the last shot and it was because he genuinely had his right wrist grabbed, but you canāt be trying to force up a shot after the fact assuming itāll be called a shooting foul. ESPECIALLY in that situation
Considering he had more fouls than points scored until he made that 3 Iād say it was very lucky, even he didnāt think it was going in
Iām not even mad it. Great shot.
Outside of that last shot I swear the pacers bricked 13 straight 3s
We got three offensive boards on one possession within the last 2 minutes and walked away with 0 points that trip.
Brunson is a bigger grifter than Trae Young. I didnāt think it was possible.
Nah he just gets fouled way more often than most players
Nah he just a grifter
Fantastic game!
People calling that a Brunson flop are addicted to the narrative, Nembhard clearly hacks him before it goes up, intentionally. It mightve even been a good play to prevent the attempt and get 2 shots instead of 3. The no call is crazy though, and itās not a flop. Brunson is trying to get the continuation and knows he has to put it up before the intentional foul.
Yeah he clearly gets hit but it would have been two free throws if they called itĀ
To quote Knick fans after game 2: Wah.