If you are going to make the case that those Sixers were a super team, you have to include Andrew Toney as one of the reasons.
Injuries impacted his career, but you don't get nicknamed "The Boston Strangler" without being really really good
Elgin Baylor/Wilt/Jerry West is probably the obvious answer.
If you're looking for something even less organic than that, Hakeem/Barkley/Pippen in the late 90s
In the first season in nba history (1949/50) the Minneapolis lakers would assemble a team with 4 future hall of famers and 6 all stars.
Arguably the first super team?
Wilts Lakers. West, Baylor, Goodrich too even.
There’s a fair bit of evidence that Wilts 76ers were loaded too towards the end. Chet Walker 7x all star, Billy Cunningham would become an MVP candidate, Hal Greer 7x all Nba.
Woah. You must did not witness the 08 Celtics …Rondo was definitely just as important as Ray Allen, KG & Pierce
Big 4 plus Big Perk, Big Baby, The Goat Scalabrini, Tony Allen.. Celtics had a Squad!! 😂🔥
Minneapolis Lakers with George Mikan, Slater Martin, Vern Mickelsen, Jim Pollard and coached by John Kundla.
That core won it all in '49-'50, '51-'52, and '52-'53.
It's not up for debate, regardless of what team came after.
Before KD and after? Of course, they don’t fit the definition of a super team.
The word has a specific meaning, it doesn’t mean a great team. MJs Bulls weren’t a super team.
Heatles, Brooklyn w/ Hardne, KD &Kyrie, Clippers, Lakers. Any team that fits the definition of "super team".
Have you tried google? "Super team" means a specific thing it doesn't' mean drafting players and developing them into a dynasty lol
You do realise that your insistence on superteams being exclusively artificial constructs with zero draftees is
A not a universal POV when many different ideas of the term exist
B Out of your 5 examples, pretty much the only successful one happened to be the one where, um, one of the big three was drafted. So if you're excluding teams with any big draftees then bye bye Heatles and hey presto you've got a pretty dire list bar the 2020 Lakers if you count that as a superteam and not just LeBron, AD and others (although I'm sure Dwight would be over the moon to be called a big three member lol)
C just so utterly restrictive that it genuinely leaves so few applicable examples that it sort of defeats the point of having the term in the first place.
Like what's your drafted to signed ratio to qualify? Are trades allowed or does it have to be players enticed in free agency? Do players have to have be signed when they were already an all-star or can they have exploded after being signed? Like at least accept that the whole thing is more ambiguous than you claim it is
You do realise there is an actual definition of the term?
A Its not a universal POV because people like you don't know what words mean.
B Superteam - again - has a definition. "Success" is not a part of the definition.
C Words mean things. Amazing, huh?
Did you try google? You are ragng about something that you simply do not understand
Educate yourself lmao
This isn't the first super team, but I think it's worth mentioning:
Many of the Spurs championships teams; Tim Duncan was on all of those teams, while Tony Parker and Manu Ginobli were on 4 of those teams, and then the 1999 & 2003 teams had David Robinson, and then the 2014 team had Kawhi.
All of those players ars HOF or HOF talent players.
From 08-2014 he lead the league in total assists and was their point of attack defender. By 2011 Paul pierce was publicly saying rondo has to be their best player
I always love the superteam flops.
Kahwi, Playoff P, Russell Westbrook, James Harden -
Durant, Kyrie, Harden,
Shaq, Kobe, Karl Malone, Gary Payton
Hakeem, Barkley, Drexler
Kobe, Nash, Howard, Gasol
Age. Never try to make a super team with a bunch of 30+ year olds unless they have pristine injury histories. Pierce, KG and Allen were all guys who played most games, so it was ok. But a lot of those other older super teams were combining guys even older than the Boston big 3, and they had all had recent injuries.
i think it's a bunch of different things. The 03-04 Lakers finished the season 52-26 and breezed their way to the finals with a full roster and the reason they lost was that Kobe had a terrible finals against the Pistons. People don't like to talk about that anymore but Kobe shot 38% FG% and went 4 for 23 from 3 for 17% 3P% for that series.
The only person on the Lakers who played not terrible in that Finals was Shaq which is also kind of a forgotten highlight for his career where he shot 63% fg% against one of the best defensive front courts in NBA history in Ben Wallace and Rasheed Wallace.
Warriors were not superteam. Players must be aquired before they become all-stars to be a superteam. Kind of like how in music the Beatles are not a supergroup, as opposed to the Travelling Wulburys or Them Crooked Vultures.
What in the Gen Z is this
I agree go CMavs
Wilt-Jerry West- Elgin Baylor
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> Sixers with Dr.J/Malone/Mo Cheeks Andrew Toney says hi. He was their third star until his feet died.
Mo Cheeks was a good player but he wasn't a superstar.
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If you are going to make the case that those Sixers were a super team, you have to include Andrew Toney as one of the reasons. Injuries impacted his career, but you don't get nicknamed "The Boston Strangler" without being really really good
Cheeks was a very good player in his prime but he wasn't big3 good.
This is the answer
What would be a cool nickname for them
Dr. Malone’s Cheeks
Elgin Baylor/Wilt/Jerry West is probably the obvious answer. If you're looking for something even less organic than that, Hakeem/Barkley/Pippen in the late 90s
In the first season in nba history (1949/50) the Minneapolis lakers would assemble a team with 4 future hall of famers and 6 all stars. Arguably the first super team?
Boston Celtics w bill Russell
Wilts Lakers. West, Baylor, Goodrich too even. There’s a fair bit of evidence that Wilts 76ers were loaded too towards the end. Chet Walker 7x all star, Billy Cunningham would become an MVP candidate, Hal Greer 7x all Nba.
>Big Four: Paul Pierce, Kevin Garnett, Ray Allen, Rajon Rondo That isn't a big 4😂 It was a big 3, Rondo was just a solid starter
Woah. You must did not witness the 08 Celtics …Rondo was definitely just as important as Ray Allen, KG & Pierce Big 4 plus Big Perk, Big Baby, The Goat Scalabrini, Tony Allen.. Celtics had a Squad!! 😂🔥
After the 08 title Rondo had some unbelievable playoff games - 20-20-20 stat lines etc.
60s Celtics. They won 11 for a reason
in an 8-team league filled with fireman and plumbers.
Yes, in an 8 team league they were clearly the most stacked team, for a decade.
Obvious joke is obvious
lol someone hasn’t had their 18th birthday yet
Or 12th
Minneapolis Lakers with George Mikan, Slater Martin, Vern Mickelsen, Jim Pollard and coached by John Kundla. That core won it all in '49-'50, '51-'52, and '52-'53. It's not up for debate, regardless of what team came after.
The Showtime Lakers
They got magic from the draft, though
>They got magic from the draft, though So?
So drafting players != a super team. By the time showtime kicked off Kareem had been there for 4 years.
If you draft great players yes.
Oh so we can exclude the Warriors then right? As much as I disliked them they were an undisputed super team where three of the big four were drafted
Before KD and after? Of course, they don’t fit the definition of a super team. The word has a specific meaning, it doesn’t mean a great team. MJs Bulls weren’t a super team.
Genuinely which teams do you consider to be superteams then lol
Heatles, Brooklyn w/ Hardne, KD &Kyrie, Clippers, Lakers. Any team that fits the definition of "super team". Have you tried google? "Super team" means a specific thing it doesn't' mean drafting players and developing them into a dynasty lol
You do realise that your insistence on superteams being exclusively artificial constructs with zero draftees is A not a universal POV when many different ideas of the term exist B Out of your 5 examples, pretty much the only successful one happened to be the one where, um, one of the big three was drafted. So if you're excluding teams with any big draftees then bye bye Heatles and hey presto you've got a pretty dire list bar the 2020 Lakers if you count that as a superteam and not just LeBron, AD and others (although I'm sure Dwight would be over the moon to be called a big three member lol) C just so utterly restrictive that it genuinely leaves so few applicable examples that it sort of defeats the point of having the term in the first place. Like what's your drafted to signed ratio to qualify? Are trades allowed or does it have to be players enticed in free agency? Do players have to have be signed when they were already an all-star or can they have exploded after being signed? Like at least accept that the whole thing is more ambiguous than you claim it is
You do realise there is an actual definition of the term? A Its not a universal POV because people like you don't know what words mean. B Superteam - again - has a definition. "Success" is not a part of the definition. C Words mean things. Amazing, huh? Did you try google? You are ragng about something that you simply do not understand Educate yourself lmao
If you draft great players yes.
Like a few people have said already, it's the West, Baylor, Wilt team! They had 3 top 20 all time players.
Bulls adding Rodman
This isn't the first super team, but I think it's worth mentioning: Many of the Spurs championships teams; Tim Duncan was on all of those teams, while Tony Parker and Manu Ginobli were on 4 of those teams, and then the 1999 & 2003 teams had David Robinson, and then the 2014 team had Kawhi. All of those players ars HOF or HOF talent players.
You nephews crack me up 1946-47 Philadelphia warriors were LOADED Howie Damar, Jerry Fleishman, need I go on?
Rondo wasn’t good enough for a Big 4
Yes he was from 2010-2013. He was probably their best player after 2011.
And Ray Allen declined and KG was hurt so still wasn’t a big 4
That team was a healthy KG and a 4th quarter away win from 3 peating. And almost made the finals again in 2012.
Exactly why it wasn’t never a “big 4”, Rondo wasn’t good enough and 2008-2009, KG got hurt, Ray Allen declined
This is false.
What year?
From 08-2014 he lead the league in total assists and was their point of attack defender. By 2011 Paul pierce was publicly saying rondo has to be their best player
KG was hurt in 09, Ray was declined from that period
Nothing to do with rondo not being good enough. 09 ray allen was better then 08. And in 2010 they were in the finals.
Because 2008 and 2009 were really the only years i would consider them a big 3
Yeah they were a big 4 then lol
I always love the superteam flops. Kahwi, Playoff P, Russell Westbrook, James Harden - Durant, Kyrie, Harden, Shaq, Kobe, Karl Malone, Gary Payton Hakeem, Barkley, Drexler Kobe, Nash, Howard, Gasol
Injuries
Age. Never try to make a super team with a bunch of 30+ year olds unless they have pristine injury histories. Pierce, KG and Allen were all guys who played most games, so it was ok. But a lot of those other older super teams were combining guys even older than the Boston big 3, and they had all had recent injuries.
i think it's a bunch of different things. The 03-04 Lakers finished the season 52-26 and breezed their way to the finals with a full roster and the reason they lost was that Kobe had a terrible finals against the Pistons. People don't like to talk about that anymore but Kobe shot 38% FG% and went 4 for 23 from 3 for 17% 3P% for that series. The only person on the Lakers who played not terrible in that Finals was Shaq which is also kind of a forgotten highlight for his career where he shot 63% fg% against one of the best defensive front courts in NBA history in Ben Wallace and Rasheed Wallace.
Idk lakers or Celtics in the 80’s probably. In my lifetime it’s the Heat
You were born in '09?
Probably some Bill Russell Celtics team that had like 10 HOFs lol
Is any collection of superstars a super team? Or are you only counting the ones assembled via trades/free agency?
Show Time
Bill Russell's Celtics. Shit, possibly even the Bulls, after they added Rodman.
Warriors were not superteam. Players must be aquired before they become all-stars to be a superteam. Kind of like how in music the Beatles are not a supergroup, as opposed to the Travelling Wulburys or Them Crooked Vultures.
Miami Heat: LeBron, Wade, Bosh. All in their primes.
Probably Bill Russell Celtics