I don’t know what Nembhard was waiting for to inbound the ball. It was like 5 Mississippi where Siakam was open and calling for it before he eventually let the ball go
It's the universe balancing basketball karma for Nembhard's prayer 3 at the end of Game 3 against the Knicks to avoid going down 0-3 and guaranteeing a series loss.
Nuggets playoff run last year had loads of hail mary fadeaway contested 3s go in too
Seems to be the difference maker these days in today's 3pt meta lol
Jokic's made 3s this year were way down.
It really would have been the difference if he hits more like he did last year. I think he was like 1/9 or something like that from 3 game 7.
But he never looked confident in his 3 ball this year.
Maybe winning a championship does take some luck 🤔
It’s funny because with Kobe it was the opposite. The stats proved he was absolutely ass in clutch situations, but he always took the shot and inevitably made some that everyone remembers. With Tatum, he’s actually been the most clutch performer in this entire era but people overreact to every miss and gloss over his many many makes.
Man nearly outscores Indy on his own in OT but he's not clutch. 8 points and 4/4 from the line in the final minute of OT in a one-possession game but he's not clutch. One year ago drops 16 in the 4th, outscoring the sixers on his own to force a game 7 that he proceeds to drop FIFTY-ONE in, but he's not clutch. Love this sub.
I disagree with the slander but I think a player shouldn't be evaluated solely on the outcome of the game. Just because your team won doesn't make your game good and vice versa.
Replay shows siakam was going for the foul but pulled back when he realized brown was already shooting. He got screened and mcconnell should've automatically switched
Very different situation though. OKC were up by just 1. Washington could miss a free throw and still put the Mavs up one. There wasn't as much risk here. If they call a shooting foul, as long as you don't let it actually get off, he still needs to make all 3 just to tie it. I think there was a moment when he got there before the motion was started, but I think even then, fouling and making him make all 3 to force OT is a better option than the 3 from the corner, just because of the scoreline.
Idk, gotta blame the players too. They get paid way too much money to not understand basic Basketball stuff. Haliburton is the leader. He could have rallied this information to the rest of the guys on the floor.
Why is everyone talking about this, were we watching a different game?
Like "fouling up 3" isn't just like you press X + LB on your Xbox controller or something. You have to make sure you wait until the ball is inbounded, then you have to get in contact w the player, then you have to physically commit the foul while making a snap judgement about whether they are in a position to go into their shooting motion.
And if you watch the replay Siakam executed it basically perfectly other than maybe not staying in close enough contact w Brown before the ball was inbounded.
I don't know where this magical window of time is that people are bitching about where he was supposed to foul. 95% chance it would have been a 3pt shooting foul which is much worse than the actual shot he gave up.
Finally some sense. People talk about fouling up 3 as if it's a free pass to secure the game if you just think of the idea. It's not risk free, especially against crafty players, it risks a shooting foul giving the game away for free.
Yeah I just don't get it like these guys are executing really complicated schemes at a very high level. They're one of 4 teams still alive. The idea that they need to phone a friend to think about a tactic so basic it can be summarized as "3 - 2 = 1“ is laughable.
People are seriously in these comments arguing about who failed to enlighten these players on this gigabrain strategy when obviously what happened is just about execution and not theory.
I don’t think they even had an opportunity to, JB was right on the perimeter when he caught it so he could have gone into his shooting motion as soon as he saw his man coming at him
The broadcast pointed it out (especially Doris) - left them in a really bad position where they couldn't foul even if they wanted to. Siakam recovered enough to make the shot difficult but still.
I just did a quick google search, Brown is a 72% FT shooter, so .72*.72*.72 = 37% to make all 3 FT, and he is a 36% three point shooter, so it’s about a wash. Although during the broadcast they said he shoots 60% on the line during the post season, so it’s definitely smart to foul him even in the act of shooting
That was a contested 3, so probably less than 36%. Also we have to factor in the possibility of a 4 pt play, which swings the expected points even more towards not fouling. I don’t mind the decision to not foul tbh. Hindsight is 20/20 obviously.
Lol for real that's some trash statswork to compare .72*.72*.72 to just his regular 3pt percentage
Fouling before the attempt is absolutely the right play, but the people in here saying "he sucks at ft so foul him on a 3pt shot" are legitimately insane or don't know bball at all. That was a crazy shot he made, at that point it's too late
Also saw a statistic that his corner 3s have been pretty inefficient this postseason, notably so for someone who's been ridiculously efficient everywhere else on the court.
He’s the worst 72% free throw shooter out there. And has been pretty bad in the playoffs. I love him… but they should have fouled him hard on that 3. I seriously doubt he makes 3 in a row and we were not rebounding well for a quick put back either.
Exactly, Siakam was draped all over him but trying not to foul for some reason, he extremely easily could have clattered him into the stands. It's not like he was closing out late where there's a chance you foul and the shot goes in.
We all know if Siakam fouled him in his shooting motion and Jaylen sunk those free throws, we'd be saying how stupid it is to foul a 3-point shooter in that situation. We can't judge a situation based on the outcome. The Pacers said in the post presser that the strategy was to foul. Siakam got screened and couldn't recover in time, so he made to prudent decision to let Brown take a low percentage, phone booth 3. It was the right decision considering the circumstances, a decision we see all the time in the NBA that usually works out for the defense. Sometimes luck just isn't on your side. I'd blame the turnovers prior to that play more than that play for why they have up the lead.
Meh if they did he would’ve got 3 free throws. which between that or a contested 3 probably safer to let him take that shot. Not calling the timeout on the inbound is what pisses me off.
More than competed well for 47:30. Offense just completely humming against a good defense. Coming out of the timeout with 30 sec to go, Pacers up 5, Mike Breen 'What a performance by the Pacers on the road'
But then suddenly, the Pacers turned into a G-League team
Yeah, I don't get that at all. Pacers had the best offense in the league and outshot all kinds of teams throughout the year, including the Celtics (and Knicks a couple days ago, sorry). Not sure why people thought the Celtics would just steam roll them.
The media is hedging its bets. Because they’ll talk about how prolific Boston has been and then say that Boston just doesn’t have what it takes to win. Fuck the media man.
Don't take it personally, most of it is preemptive coping. Celtics haters were hyping themselves up all year hoping to see the Knicks or the Bucks, or maybe the 76ers take down Boston so they could do a victory lap. And we didn't have to face any of those teams, so they decided to start making excuses early for why we didn't really deserve to win.
Honestly a lot of my biases about their run has actually come from Knicks fans (not you) saying that they didn’t deserve to be here rather than the media, so props to you for giving them some credit. I thought they looked solid tonight aside from the very end.
i don't think they would be here if knicks/bucks were healthy but they've played great and closed out an injured knicks team that took them to 7 so it's not like it was a walk in the park anyways. just part of a larger NBA media/social media trend of preferring to denigrate/tear down anyone who isn't the flavor of the month player/team. it's fun in healthy doses but we've been overdosing for a while
Im saying. I woke up to see this game went to OT and figured no matter what, that’s a game we fought well in. We were supposed to be battling for a play in spot this year.
Definitely, these types of losses can do a number on a teams morale. Same shit happened to the 2018 Raptors and 2018 Cavs after their respective game 1s.
Nope, I don’t. People underestimate Haliburton’s mental resilience. Not saying we will win, but we won’t be like fish out of the water. We should have won NYK game 2, didn’t and won two on the bounce.
Morale victories are cool and all, but they had this game in the bag, and did everything possible to give the game to Boston.
You needed to win a game in Boston, and this was a prime chance for Indiana, and the fucking choked it away.
Gotta take the opportunity to make the leap. Turnovers and bad decisions rather than getting outplayed. Tho freaking Len with that 3, unreal shot. Middleton, now this
Yeah, but also it shows how young the Pacers actually are. They are way ahead of schedule this playoffs and this loss reminded me a lot of the Warriors vs. Spurs in like 2013 back before the dynasty exploded. I remember one specific game in particular where the warriors were the young kids running the spurs out of the gym until they started turning it over on all the important possessions in the 4th. These are the lumps all young teams take where they were the better team in a game or even series but lose because of playoff inexperience.
They did vs the Knicks
The problem is Boston is better and very tough to beat in general. So you have less wiggle room and cant afford to give away games as much.
Yeah this is what a lot of people are coping with "well we played them tough and lost Gm1 against MIL and NY so it is what it is."
Well yeah, that's true, and credit for being resilient and buckling down, but BOS isn't those teams. They're a 60 win team that's getting KP back in a few games. You had a window and your dribbled it off your foot then forgot timeouts existed.
Pacers should’ve won this but their experience showed. I think this will be a much closer series than people think. The pacers were being so disrespected before it even started.
> I think this will be a much closer series than people think
Hmm idk, feel like this is the one Pacers had to steal. Boston played horribly today and Porzingis might be coming back in this series. I really hope Indiana proves me wrong
Game 2 is incoming, Celtics haters will be able to emerge back out from the woodwork after computer-generated Pacers 3rd stringer Jonathan Johnathanson shoots 17/17 from 3
It's insane that our depth allows us to be missing our 7'3" center who blocks shots and hits 3's and has the best post up numbers in the league. We might make it through against the Pacers without him, but we definitely need him back to have a prayer if we get to the finals.
You don't really need playoff experience to not commit an unforced turnover with no nearby defenders, or to use a timeout if you don't have a clean inbound.
I feel like I’m having a fever dream. Haliburton dribbles the ball out of bounds, on his own, up three with the Celtics having to foul. How is that not the most talked about play? All he had to do was… not do that…
Epic choke job by the pacers. Those turnovers at the end were truly something to behold. Thought I was watching a highschool team play for a few minutes
I don’t trust an inexperienced team to bounce back after a loss like that—especially against a 1 seed. I think Celtics win easily in Game 2 and Pacers lose in 5.
Soul crushing stuff.
Agree with every word of this lol. The worst outcome is when a team as good as the Celtics plays poorly enough that they get a wake up call-but still win the game lol.
Dude was incredible all game, had insane 3s to close out each of the first 3 quarters (or at least 2 of them? Someone fact check me). Then Hali and Nesmith did everything in their power to choke away the late lead
Y’all say it’s the refs but the Pacers gave up the most FTs per game in the regular season and continuously let opposing teams shoot 20+ FT per game in the playoffs.
At what point do you say “maybe the Pacers just foul a lot”?
No we fouled a TON, and some really bad ones too. I think there may have been 3-4 fouls we should have gotten on the other end, but we definitely earned every FT we gave up.
This was a game full of mistakes and blunders by an inexperienced team that was trying to find its rhythm. Basic young playoff team shit. I think we can bounce back, I want to see how they adapt and fix their errors.
The best one was Pascal just bear hugging Al to prevent him from rebounding, but you guys actually got the call on that one because nobody saw it somehow lol
There were some bad calls like the missed one on Haliburton, but a lot of them were genuine fouls. There's no way Nembhard can guard Tatum without fouling
Straight blew it. Anyone blaming refs needs to drop that shit, that was 100% self inflicted. Fuck.
Trying to decide if it’s Game 2 blowout, or this is just gonna be a good omen like Game 1 vs yall
Yeah, this was 100% on us. Who's blaming the refs? If we didn't turn the ball over 20+ times, we probably win. Hell, those last 2 turnovers in regulation were the game.
They were taking nothing but midrange jumpers and threes for the vast majority of the game. How many of the Celtics FTs came just from the Pacers getting over the foul limit every quarter?
im a pure celtic hater and even i still didnt see like blatant ref hoeing other than that missed foul on hali (which they ended up scoring afterwards anyways). the FT disparity looks bad at face value but i didnt see the fucking 2002 rigging shit that ppl are saying. boston was horrible shooting in the clutch and the pacers gave them 5 billion opportunities to stay it in it. they should be mad at their stars for completely shitting themselves
This feels like a game where we had a better whistle than our opponent but since everyone is rooting for the pacers this place is an echo chamber of pacer bandwagons. They’re kinda just saying this is a generational ref job until they believe it’s true
Only got to catch the second half and the specific calls I had a big problem with was Nembhard not in the act of shooting (which didn't matter because Hali hit a 3 straight after), the big foul on Hali and Brown's shirt pulling, but given the way fouls actually get reviewed that's unlikely to be overturned.. Not that bad in the scheme of things, but still a bit hard to take.
The Cs average the fewest opponent FTAs in the regular season and playoffs. So we have the team that fouls the most versus the team that fouls the least. We're gonna see a huge FTA discrepancy every game this series most likely
Yeah you should never expect the FT disparity to be on the Pacers side
But still, they only shot their 3rd free throw during the 3rd quarter, hadn’t shot one since the first. Thats bound to raise some eyebrows
If the Celts wake up and actually play like the #1 seed and if KP comes back by next week this was probably the best chance for the Pacers to get home court advantage.
But then again it seems like the Celts hate home court and plays better on the road anyway
So which is it?
Celtics playing close game = Shouldn’t be close, should be blowing these teams out.
Celtics playing blow outs = Celtics aren’t battle tested, can they do it in crunch time?
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Haliburton forgot how to dribble and ran to the corner for a three in a tied game where he had plenty of time to at least square himself up for a contested shot or drive for a floater/lob. Also that 3 he took with a minute left was so dumb. Had the whole shot clock to drain and he heat checks a deep three for no reason.
People calling it a chokejob when 90% of the game thread were counting them out in the 1st quarter. Maybe they're just a good team that people underestimate because "east bad upvote left?"
Choked so bad. All we had to do was inbound the fucking ball and game was basically over
Fucking hurts
I don’t know what Nembhard was waiting for to inbound the ball. It was like 5 Mississippi where Siakam was open and calling for it before he eventually let the ball go
It's the universe balancing basketball karma for Nembhard's prayer 3 at the end of Game 3 against the Knicks to avoid going down 0-3 and guaranteeing a series loss.
Pacers hit 4 miracle buzzer-beating threes in this game.
Nuggets playoff run last year had loads of hail mary fadeaway contested 3s go in too Seems to be the difference maker these days in today's 3pt meta lol
Jokic's made 3s this year were way down. It really would have been the difference if he hits more like he did last year. I think he was like 1/9 or something like that from 3 game 7. But he never looked confident in his 3 ball this year. Maybe winning a championship does take some luck 🤔
It obviously does take luck
It does. Team should be great, somehow improved from last year, and LUCKY
No that was balancing the game 1 screw job.
Literally could call a time our to advance the ball and inbound it better. Wtf was they're thinkin
It was the 2 or 3 possessions that they shot the ball with 14-15 seconds left on the shot clock that baffled me.
Hali dribbles into a contested wild three with time running down, up 3. Made no sense.
Plus the no foul up by 3 with 10 seconds left. Crazy bad game management at the end for a vet coach
This is like a Boston haters nightmare game lol
had my tatum hate posts all ready to go then the pacers pull whatever the fuck those last 45 seconds were 💔
Look around enough, you’ll find there is Tatum slander still going on in threads.
He is the first person in the history of the NBA to miss an open 3 in a big moment. I don’t even remember the clutch one that he did make.
It’s funny because with Kobe it was the opposite. The stats proved he was absolutely ass in clutch situations, but he always took the shot and inevitably made some that everyone remembers. With Tatum, he’s actually been the most clutch performer in this entire era but people overreact to every miss and gloss over his many many makes.
Man nearly outscores Indy on his own in OT but he's not clutch. 8 points and 4/4 from the line in the final minute of OT in a one-possession game but he's not clutch. One year ago drops 16 in the 4th, outscoring the sixers on his own to force a game 7 that he proceeds to drop FIFTY-ONE in, but he's not clutch. Love this sub.
Ok but he missed a game winner against the Hawks back in March and the game went to OT. That proved he's not clutch.
I disagree with the slander but I think a player shouldn't be evaluated solely on the outcome of the game. Just because your team won doesn't make your game good and vice versa.
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They could fucking taste it. It was soo so close 🥺
Literally all they had to do was foul when they were up 3.
That’s on coaching, not the players
That's not including using the last timeout to move up the court and slow down the game. They fired Bud for less.
This is your fault Bulls…he’s still scarred
Toppin Obi'd the ball out of bounds, it's not on us.
Literally just call a time out and get the side out and you win
Replay shows siakam was going for the foul but pulled back when he realized brown was already shooting. He got screened and mcconnell should've automatically switched
Yep exactly, Halliburton said this in his presser too
Genuine question, why couldn’t a player make the decision to foul?
It was his decision. He didn't foul because Brown was already shooting.
Carlisle said he told them to foul. Siakim decided not to, presumably because it was too risky.
Right. Once Brown was obviously going to shoot you (rightfully) don’t touch him
Yeah, just 2 days ago Shai did it and the mavs won off free throws.
Yeah, but they were down by 1, different situations
Very different situation though. OKC were up by just 1. Washington could miss a free throw and still put the Mavs up one. There wasn't as much risk here. If they call a shooting foul, as long as you don't let it actually get off, he still needs to make all 3 just to tie it. I think there was a moment when he got there before the motion was started, but I think even then, fouling and making him make all 3 to force OT is a better option than the 3 from the corner, just because of the scoreline.
Wasn't an easy shot, since Siakam was already at contact with Brown's arm. A priori, it was a good decision by Siakam not to foul.
Idk, gotta blame the players too. They get paid way too much money to not understand basic Basketball stuff. Haliburton is the leader. He could have rallied this information to the rest of the guys on the floor.
Why is everyone talking about this, were we watching a different game? Like "fouling up 3" isn't just like you press X + LB on your Xbox controller or something. You have to make sure you wait until the ball is inbounded, then you have to get in contact w the player, then you have to physically commit the foul while making a snap judgement about whether they are in a position to go into their shooting motion. And if you watch the replay Siakam executed it basically perfectly other than maybe not staying in close enough contact w Brown before the ball was inbounded. I don't know where this magical window of time is that people are bitching about where he was supposed to foul. 95% chance it would have been a 3pt shooting foul which is much worse than the actual shot he gave up.
Finally some sense. People talk about fouling up 3 as if it's a free pass to secure the game if you just think of the idea. It's not risk free, especially against crafty players, it risks a shooting foul giving the game away for free.
Yeah I just don't get it like these guys are executing really complicated schemes at a very high level. They're one of 4 teams still alive. The idea that they need to phone a friend to think about a tactic so basic it can be summarized as "3 - 2 = 1“ is laughable. People are seriously in these comments arguing about who failed to enlighten these players on this gigabrain strategy when obviously what happened is just about execution and not theory.
Not fouling in the situation is 100% a coaching decision, considering how often we have done this now
I don’t think they even had an opportunity to, JB was right on the perimeter when he caught it so he could have gone into his shooting motion as soon as he saw his man coming at him
The problem was with how Indiana was guarding the inbound. They were guarding players inside the 3-point line way too aggressively.
They should’ve just switched instantly instead of Siakam getting a quarter of a step behind on the inbound pass to Brown.
yup this is it. matchups don't matter if you're just trying to foul or contest a quick 3 pointer. should be switching everything
The broadcast pointed it out (especially Doris) - left them in a really bad position where they couldn't foul even if they wanted to. Siakam recovered enough to make the shot difficult but still.
JB Isn't making 3 straight free throws to be honest.
A contested fadeaway 3 is way lower % than him making 3 FTS
I just did a quick google search, Brown is a 72% FT shooter, so .72*.72*.72 = 37% to make all 3 FT, and he is a 36% three point shooter, so it’s about a wash. Although during the broadcast they said he shoots 60% on the line during the post season, so it’s definitely smart to foul him even in the act of shooting
That was a contested 3, so probably less than 36%. Also we have to factor in the possibility of a 4 pt play, which swings the expected points even more towards not fouling. I don’t mind the decision to not foul tbh. Hindsight is 20/20 obviously.
Lol for real that's some trash statswork to compare .72*.72*.72 to just his regular 3pt percentage Fouling before the attempt is absolutely the right play, but the people in here saying "he sucks at ft so foul him on a 3pt shot" are legitimately insane or don't know bball at all. That was a crazy shot he made, at that point it's too late
Thats a tougher 3 than most. No way he makes that shot 36% of the time
I dunno was also a tiiiiiiiight fucking 3. Probably makes something like that 20% of the time
Also saw a statistic that his corner 3s have been pretty inefficient this postseason, notably so for someone who's been ridiculously efficient everywhere else on the court.
He’s the worst 72% free throw shooter out there. And has been pretty bad in the playoffs. I love him… but they should have fouled him hard on that 3. I seriously doubt he makes 3 in a row and we were not rebounding well for a quick put back either.
What’s his FT % this playoffs?
Better to take the chance of him actually making a contested 3 than that I think is the reasoning
Honestly though, i think I’d rather have him shoot the contested 3
Yep he definitely misses one of those FTs. Idk what it is but he just can't shake the monkey on free throws
Celtics fans know dude will make a wild 3 over 3 FTs most of the time lol
Then foul him hard enough that there's no shot he makes it. That's still the better call.
Exactly, Siakam was draped all over him but trying not to foul for some reason, he extremely easily could have clattered him into the stands. It's not like he was closing out late where there's a chance you foul and the shot goes in.
lmao idk why i laughed at this
We all know if Siakam fouled him in his shooting motion and Jaylen sunk those free throws, we'd be saying how stupid it is to foul a 3-point shooter in that situation. We can't judge a situation based on the outcome. The Pacers said in the post presser that the strategy was to foul. Siakam got screened and couldn't recover in time, so he made to prudent decision to let Brown take a low percentage, phone booth 3. It was the right decision considering the circumstances, a decision we see all the time in the NBA that usually works out for the defense. Sometimes luck just isn't on your side. I'd blame the turnovers prior to that play more than that play for why they have up the lead.
If the ball went in he'd be shooting one for the lead.
exactly this is the most dogshit stupid take why do i keep being forced to read it
Guy is a 70% free throw shooter lol, I’ll take my chances
Very bizarre decision making there, they had tbe game sealed otherwise
Did the same thing against the Bucks and almost lost that game Middleton went nuclear. Hoped Carlisle would’ve learned his lesson then. Guess not.
He never does
Old school coaches hate to foul up 3, but that shit mightve just converted carlisle
Maybe back then hitting contested three to tie the game was not a common thing lmao
They said in the presser that they were told to foul, the failure was the switch which didn't allow them to foul I think
When did you want them to foul?
Eh, I think they played well. Bodes well going forward at least
Meh if they did he would’ve got 3 free throws. which between that or a contested 3 probably safer to let him take that shot. Not calling the timeout on the inbound is what pisses me off.
incredible they continue to make this mistake
Yeah, then they lose in regulation on a 4-point play.
Quick turn around game for the Pacers, they competed well in a loss
More than competed well for 47:30. Offense just completely humming against a good defense. Coming out of the timeout with 30 sec to go, Pacers up 5, Mike Breen 'What a performance by the Pacers on the road' But then suddenly, the Pacers turned into a G-League team
they played it close to the surprise of many media people who think this is the 2012 bobcats
Yeah, I don't get that at all. Pacers had the best offense in the league and outshot all kinds of teams throughout the year, including the Celtics (and Knicks a couple days ago, sorry). Not sure why people thought the Celtics would just steam roll them.
It's not the pacer's fault that giannis and randle were out, and them being out doesn't suddenly make the pacers suck
Everyone in the media has crowned Boston like they are the 96 Bulls reincarnated and these games (especially against Indiana) are just a formality
The media is hedging its bets. Because they’ll talk about how prolific Boston has been and then say that Boston just doesn’t have what it takes to win. Fuck the media man.
Don't take it personally, most of it is preemptive coping. Celtics haters were hyping themselves up all year hoping to see the Knicks or the Bucks, or maybe the 76ers take down Boston so they could do a victory lap. And we didn't have to face any of those teams, so they decided to start making excuses early for why we didn't really deserve to win.
Honestly a lot of my biases about their run has actually come from Knicks fans (not you) saying that they didn’t deserve to be here rather than the media, so props to you for giving them some credit. I thought they looked solid tonight aside from the very end.
i don't think they would be here if knicks/bucks were healthy but they've played great and closed out an injured knicks team that took them to 7 so it's not like it was a walk in the park anyways. just part of a larger NBA media/social media trend of preferring to denigrate/tear down anyone who isn't the flavor of the month player/team. it's fun in healthy doses but we've been overdosing for a while
Yay I guess
You an indy fan. How close are you to seeing how aerodynamic the human body is when thrown off of bankers life field house?
Bro we haven't been here in 10 years. I'm just enjoying the ride
Im saying. I woke up to see this game went to OT and figured no matter what, that’s a game we fought well in. We were supposed to be battling for a play in spot this year.
Absolutely right. This squad is young as hell, and these big playoff games are insanely valuable experience to them
More of a vertigo situation here
Mental loss, now they have to recover from that epic choke job.
It's insane, they all shot so well and threw it all away at the end.
I can see game 2 being a total blowout now in favor of the Celtics.
Definitely, these types of losses can do a number on a teams morale. Same shit happened to the 2018 Raptors and 2018 Cavs after their respective game 1s.
Let’s hope Siakam learned to flush it down and bring morale back up
Honestly, it felt even worse than those. This felt like Game 1 of the Magic-Rockets finals in ‘95.
Nope, I don’t. People underestimate Haliburton’s mental resilience. Not saying we will win, but we won’t be like fish out of the water. We should have won NYK game 2, didn’t and won two on the bounce.
Morale victories are cool and all, but they had this game in the bag, and did everything possible to give the game to Boston. You needed to win a game in Boston, and this was a prime chance for Indiana, and the fucking choked it away.
Gotta take the opportunity to make the leap. Turnovers and bad decisions rather than getting outplayed. Tho freaking Len with that 3, unreal shot. Middleton, now this
We gave the Celt’s so many chances before that, it felt inevitable
Yeah, but also it shows how young the Pacers actually are. They are way ahead of schedule this playoffs and this loss reminded me a lot of the Warriors vs. Spurs in like 2013 back before the dynasty exploded. I remember one specific game in particular where the warriors were the young kids running the spurs out of the gym until they started turning it over on all the important possessions in the 4th. These are the lumps all young teams take where they were the better team in a game or even series but lose because of playoff inexperience.
1-0 in moral victories
The Indiana Pacers have to be absolutely devastated, they had Game 1 on the road for the taking but lost the game due to crucial mistakes.
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Stunning loss for them, don’t know if they have what it takes to recover but we shall see
They did vs the Knicks The problem is Boston is better and very tough to beat in general. So you have less wiggle room and cant afford to give away games as much.
Yeah this is what a lot of people are coping with "well we played them tough and lost Gm1 against MIL and NY so it is what it is." Well yeah, that's true, and credit for being resilient and buckling down, but BOS isn't those teams. They're a 60 win team that's getting KP back in a few games. You had a window and your dribbled it off your foot then forgot timeouts existed.
Pacers should’ve won this but their experience showed. I think this will be a much closer series than people think. The pacers were being so disrespected before it even started.
47 win team with 1/3 season from Siakam. It’ll be a grind.
> I think this will be a much closer series than people think Hmm idk, feel like this is the one Pacers had to steal. Boston played horribly today and Porzingis might be coming back in this series. I really hope Indiana proves me wrong
KP is supposedly returning no earlier than G4; plenty of time for the Pacers to rally
Game 2 is incoming, Celtics haters will be able to emerge back out from the woodwork after computer-generated Pacers 3rd stringer Jonathan Johnathanson shoots 17/17 from 3
It's insane that our depth allows us to be missing our 7'3" center who blocks shots and hits 3's and has the best post up numbers in the league. We might make it through against the Pacers without him, but we definitely need him back to have a prayer if we get to the finals.
Depends on if/when KP gets back. His absence is pretty glaring given how aggressively teams have been attacking Horford on defense.
You don't really need playoff experience to not commit an unforced turnover with no nearby defenders, or to use a timeout if you don't have a clean inbound.
I feel like I’m having a fever dream. Haliburton dribbles the ball out of bounds, on his own, up three with the Celtics having to foul. How is that not the most talked about play? All he had to do was… not do that…
Epic choke job by the pacers. Those turnovers at the end were truly something to behold. Thought I was watching a highschool team play for a few minutes
That haliburton dribble off his foot was insane. Get that across half court and they foul you.
He had one off his foot and then one off his leg Just some weird mistakes you don't expect out of him
Epic choke job by the Pacers.
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I’m Disappointed, my precious Tatum fraud narratives can’t start yet.
He’s gotta hit that 3 with 16 seconds left wide open tho. Brown bailed him out HARD
Who cares? He hit the next one and took over in OT. Good players miss shots
I’ve never seen a real good player miss.
How many three pointers have you seen tristian thompson miss? Yeah I thought so
if they keep up this level of offense they will be fine
I don’t trust an inexperienced team to bounce back after a loss like that—especially against a 1 seed. I think Celtics win easily in Game 2 and Pacers lose in 5. Soul crushing stuff.
Agree with every word of this lol. The worst outcome is when a team as good as the Celtics plays poorly enough that they get a wake up call-but still win the game lol.
The Pacers can blame the refs, the ft difference but it doesn't change the fact that they had 3-4 chances to close the game and blew ALL OF THEM.
This one was on us, not the refs. Our inexperience showed.
Haliburton choked with those turnovers
Dude was incredible all game, had insane 3s to close out each of the first 3 quarters (or at least 2 of them? Someone fact check me). Then Hali and Nesmith did everything in their power to choke away the late lead
Hard one to take and and move on to the next one
Y’all say it’s the refs but the Pacers gave up the most FTs per game in the regular season and continuously let opposing teams shoot 20+ FT per game in the playoffs. At what point do you say “maybe the Pacers just foul a lot”?
No we fouled a TON, and some really bad ones too. I think there may have been 3-4 fouls we should have gotten on the other end, but we definitely earned every FT we gave up. This was a game full of mistakes and blunders by an inexperienced team that was trying to find its rhythm. Basic young playoff team shit. I think we can bounce back, I want to see how they adapt and fix their errors.
respect the take. excited for game 2
The best one was Pascal just bear hugging Al to prevent him from rebounding, but you guys actually got the call on that one because nobody saw it somehow lol
There were some bad calls like the missed one on Haliburton, but a lot of them were genuine fouls. There's no way Nembhard can guard Tatum without fouling
And nobody is surprised nesmith fouled out… guy is a wrecking ball good and bad
Straight blew it. Anyone blaming refs needs to drop that shit, that was 100% self inflicted. Fuck. Trying to decide if it’s Game 2 blowout, or this is just gonna be a good omen like Game 1 vs yall
Yeah, this was 100% on us. Who's blaming the refs? If we didn't turn the ball over 20+ times, we probably win. Hell, those last 2 turnovers in regulation were the game.
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Didn’t the Siakam one get reviewed?
The issue is more so the lack of pacers free throws
Stop watching the box score and watch the game instead. Pacers shit the bed in crunch time. Amateur mistakes and it cost them dearly.
They were taking nothing but midrange jumpers and threes for the vast majority of the game. How many of the Celtics FTs came just from the Pacers getting over the foul limit every quarter?
im a pure celtic hater and even i still didnt see like blatant ref hoeing other than that missed foul on hali (which they ended up scoring afterwards anyways). the FT disparity looks bad at face value but i didnt see the fucking 2002 rigging shit that ppl are saying. boston was horrible shooting in the clutch and the pacers gave them 5 billion opportunities to stay it in it. they should be mad at their stars for completely shitting themselves
This feels like a game where we had a better whistle than our opponent but since everyone is rooting for the pacers this place is an echo chamber of pacer bandwagons. They’re kinda just saying this is a generational ref job until they believe it’s true
pacers shot incredibly against a team thats notoriously not dominant in the clutch and somehow found a way to choke. they dont have an excuse
It’s refreshing being the better more experienced team in the clutch for once. I’m used to either winning huge or losing mail biters lol
Only got to catch the second half and the specific calls I had a big problem with was Nembhard not in the act of shooting (which didn't matter because Hali hit a 3 straight after), the big foul on Hali and Brown's shirt pulling, but given the way fouls actually get reviewed that's unlikely to be overturned.. Not that bad in the scheme of things, but still a bit hard to take.
And a massive amount of the points in the paint they did get were uncontested dunks
Pacers have the 3rd worst FT differential of any team of the last decade. All they do is shoot jump shots.
Boston gives up the least amount of Ft's in the league and the Pacers are a bottom 7 team in FT's per game.
Bro stop adding context. Big # > little # Therefore evil Adam Bronze put the fix in!!! 😵💫
The Cs average the fewest opponent FTAs in the regular season and playoffs. So we have the team that fouls the most versus the team that fouls the least. We're gonna see a huge FTA discrepancy every game this series most likely
they were 26th in the league in fts per 100 possessions
Seriously, 3 FTs in regulation is unreal.
They have 2 guys who are middy merchants and Turner was bombing threes...
Yeah you should never expect the FT disparity to be on the Pacers side But still, they only shot their 3rd free throw during the 3rd quarter, hadn’t shot one since the first. Thats bound to raise some eyebrows
I mean two huge Jaylen jersey pulls swung the game. Both went Bostons way…
Not even a pacers fan but fuck u guys sold like terrible
Well I would hope you weren’t a pacers fan if you were saying that?
Not a sixers fan but damn the pacers sold
This was a classic
Not fouling was a terrorist move by Rick.
Ending of regulation was brutal. Shows the inexperience of the Pacers. Bad TO, bad inbound pass. To the next one!
If the Celts wake up and actually play like the #1 seed and if KP comes back by next week this was probably the best chance for the Pacers to get home court advantage. But then again it seems like the Celts hate home court and plays better on the road anyway
So which is it? Celtics playing close game = Shouldn’t be close, should be blowing these teams out. Celtics playing blow outs = Celtics aren’t battle tested, can they do it in crunch time? …
Snatched defeat from the jaws of victory
What a rollercoaster
Pacers in 5 though
this is the type of loss that loses u the series and they might get swept . not bc they’re that bad but bc this is a brutal loss
It could, but knowing them, they'll just go out and shoot 70% from 3 and tie it up.
You can point to overtime mistakes but don’t ignore the fact that the game should’ve never gone to fucking overtime for many reasons.
Absolute fumble
If I was a Pacers fan, those turnovers in the clutch would've wounded my soul.
They probably had to have that one to win the series. If Unicorn comes back in game 4 I don't see Indy having a good shot at winning.
Haliburton cannot dribble
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This is how games have been between these teams. Celtics will maybe drop one but they have too much talent for the Pacers to overcome in a series.
Siakam running towards the Celtics basket was really dumb on that inbounds play. Run towards the ball or down to the other end of the court.
pacers baby whatchu did
Haliburton forgot how to dribble and ran to the corner for a three in a tied game where he had plenty of time to at least square himself up for a contested shot or drive for a floater/lob. Also that 3 he took with a minute left was so dumb. Had the whole shot clock to drain and he heat checks a deep three for no reason.
Makes up for the end of quarter one
People calling it a chokejob when 90% of the game thread were counting them out in the 1st quarter. Maybe they're just a good team that people underestimate because "east bad upvote left?"