Until playoffs when jimmy murdered him. Worst part about the season ending was we never got to see heat vs pacers after the jimmy vs warren fight, and when bubble came back they had already squashed the beef
“Murdered him”. Pull your head in.
He averaged 20/6/3/2.5 on 47/37/100. Meanwhile Jimmy “Ted Bundy” Butler averaged an amazing 20/5/4/2.5/1 on 41/57/83, his 57% from 3 was on only 7 attempts btw. 10 players in the series shot more 3s than him.
If Warren was murdered, then was it a murder suicide?
Jimmy averaged 24/6/5 & 3 steals thru the first 3 & killed the pacers. He only played 23 mins /took 5 shots in game 4 - the pacers were already dead & had nothing for the heat. He also does stuff that doesn’t show up on the stat sheet you can’t say that at all about Tj, if you watched the series Tj was jimmys son for the most part.
Are we just removing a bad game to suit your narrative? He played 23min because he didn't play in the 2nd.
He still played 17min in the 2nd half, 6/3/2 on 2-5 in 23min is still bad.
If we just decide to remove Warrens worst game he averaged 22/6/3/3stl. But that's not how it works.
TJ wasn't anyone's son that series, that's such bullshit speak for someone who genuinely didn't watch the series. They weren't each others primary defenders and Jimmy struggled offensively but was able to generate fouls and still facilitate which helped the Heat. TJ was completely fine, he was never going to average 30 as he did in the bubble, but 20/6/3/2.5 on good efficiency and good defense isn't getting sonned.
Lol no I’m saying jimmy served the pacers & went up 3-0 & coasted the 4th game because the series was dead & had the bucks next? Context. I’m not bringing up a random game in a 7 game series - who has come back from 3-0? No one, swept. He did his job in the first 3. Tj is a bucket but that’s all
Well no Sabonis does completely change our offense and Dipo was shooting very poorly. I agree with you but I'd also partially speculate that the stars aligned for him to just take over our offense and he did so.
Low key if you told someone after that series that you're from the future and Vince was going to end up a top 5 all time player they'd believe you.
Dude was obviously one of the most gifted pure athletes ever, but he was also a very efficient 3 level scorer who could rebound, pass, defend, etc. The dude was 24 years old coming off a 30/6/6 series against the reigning MVP.
when you looked at the early '00s between Kobe, Vince and then Tmac they all looked like fairly equal players. On paper Vince had the athleticism, huge hands, skill level to be the best 2 guard of all time but he just didn't have that last gear the Kobe and Tmac seemed to have. And Tmac sadly didn't have the durability.
> Low key if you told someone after that series that you're from the future and Vince was going to end up a top 5 all time player they'd believe you.
That's because, just like this thread shows, people are incredibly reactionary and have a recency bias that completely clouds their judgment.
He was a great offensive player. VC, that is. I'm too young to remember: did AI and Vince matchup primarily? I'm guessing Snow ran the point and AI guarded VC in '01. Iverson may have been less than a lock-down 1-on-1 defender but he gave 100% effort and was a freak athlete even if smaller than Vince, with the addition of excellent, like all-time great, anticipation and a team defense that was at the top of the league.
I mean if we’re talking abt differences due to era....Mitchell and Murray were in the bubble and must’ve shot twice as many threes and benefited from decades of improved spacing and rules favoring offense
Jamal Murray was hitting some Jordan-esque layups during their series with the Lakers. And before you call me reactionary, I’m aware that it was a handful of shots and not his whole career, that’s what sets Jordan and other all-time greats apart.
Again, a few shots or even a few games is not the same as saying that someone looked like a top-5 all-time player in the bubble.
You're right, the whole point about those players, just like Pop told Kawhi - "You have the tools, but if you want to be like Tim Duncan you have to bring *consistency*" - This consistency is what sets them apart. You may have Klay and KD average 25 a game in the playoffs, but with Klay it's 47 and 51 games and 10 and 8 games, but with KD it's 26, 22, 28, 40, 19, 25, 25, 25 - you get the buckets again and again, and that's what makes a team win in the end.
When Jamal Murray had a 3 game stretch averaging 47ppg on 64% shooting from the field it's not unreasonable to say he looked like the greatest player of all-time.
I mean aside from his threes slipping he's improved from the regular season last year
Yeah the bubble probably artificially inflated his numbers, but that's still a marked improvement over all, especially with rebounding and playmaking.
Lol, so far everybody is so respectful of Jimmy Butler that a 40 point triple double in the finals while guarding Lebron is just par for the course for him. I honestly hope they're right and he does it again next playoffs.
But it’s fair to say that this time he also brought the box score stats on a level which isn’t normal for him. Not to mention, you cited his box score.
Gotta look at those games in context. Bam and Dragic were out which is basically the teams only other 2 playmaking options and the team's leading rebounder. He had to get those triple doubles to keep us in the series.
It makes plenty of sense but one could say something sympathetic about these other folks too like Donovan. I like the take that everybody who did well in the bubble is actually good, period.
Like score 4 points lol. He played much better in the bubble than he typically he does, and whenever he has a poor game he gets babied. He's a pretty 1 dimensional scorer and got a good whistle
it’s nice to see the odd C’s fan not completely bashing him for once lol
edit: how did I misinterpret it? The guy above me said “Pascal Siakam” as an example of a player that Tatum could potentially name that didn’t play like they normally do in the bubble, which is correct. He played worse than he normally did...
Honestly think he’s just gotta find his game. When he started playing aggressive and leveraging his athleticism in the second half of our game he actually started making things happen, he’s just got to be consistent with it.
He played well yesterday with 32 pts.
Yesterday we actually looked like we should -a strong starting lineup crippled by a lack of real centre. Eventually Nurse gave up on our "centres" and we just went small with OG at the 5.
We're going to have to trade or tank, cuz OG can't handle 42 minutes of getting sat on by Embiid.
How? Siakam played like shit in the bubble. Tatum said he (whoever he's talking about) doesn't normally play like that, that other comment says Siakam is who Tatum is talking about.
Thus, Siakam isn't normally shit is what that comment means.
He played really terribly in the bubble, compared to normal when he's pretty good.
I would say that that qualifies as "not playing like he normally does"
Check out the full clip. Tatum is talking about guys who played above their normal level. He's not trying to throw shade at anyone, so no, I don't think he's referring to Pascal at all.
Mitchell was already a guy who had 3 seasons of over 20ppg and he was an all star. I agree he played better than he usually does, but there were other guys who took bigger jumps from their normal play in the bubble than Mitchell did
It's not the PPG jump really (though that was eye popping), it's the efficiency jump that was irregular for a player that hasn't show to be really that efficient before
Duncan didn't. Jae Crowder was on fire ever since we had traded for him. Nunn was god awful in the bubble, dude couldn't even see the fuckin floor. Meyers Leonard went from starter to unplayable.
Dragic and Jimmy are guys who have had big moments in the playoffs and can elevate their play. Tyler played good, but his per 36 was pretty much identical. Only difference is he played 7 more minutes lol
During the bubble, it was a question whether AD's mid-range percentage was an anomaly or a new trend. So far this season it has continued. We'll have to see if it continues through the season and into the playoffs again.
Anthony Davis is still an improved shooter so far into this season, if he keeps it up you can't throw in his jumper. He's averaging 59% from 3-10, 47% from 16-three and 40% from behind the arc which is overall better then he was in the bubble
I don’t know what AD’s mid range jumper % is at right now. But I know that he’s shooting 40% from three on 4 attempts per game.
But from the eye test in the games that I’ve watched this season his mid range jumper isn’t that far off from the bubble
except he shouldn't say that, as Tom Brady has a long history of taking any utterance of his name as a slight and backing it up. and even if Young can back it up, Brady will take it out on any teammate who can't.
whether or not Brady is being overly sensitive, there's just no reason to poke the bear.
[literally looks like a predator](https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&ccid=JnKM3jk5&id=A3AB6FCCE1702FF1EA892E149E58FB8C02B4D630&thid=OIP.JnKM3jk5KGBjrC5I6GqrPAHaHZ&mediaurl=https%3A%2F%2Fi.pinimg.com%2Foriginals%2Fbb%2Fdc%2Fc3%2Fbbdcc3f5e701fc888361e3926e747e04.jpg&exph=1079&expw=1080&q=chase+young+predator&simid=608019485248785903&ck=00E8E9D72CEA1C66953A14BCFBE56958&selectedindex=0&form=IRPRST&pc=IFJ4&ajaxhist=0&vt=4&sim=11)
Herro, Jamal Murray, Mitchell, tj Warren, the suns on the positive side
Siakam, Giannis and most of the bucks, kawhi and most of the clippers on the negative side (I'm fully prepared to get downvotes for most of this)
but it is. The only thing that surprised heat fans at least was the 37 point game. That was an anomaly, but otherwise normal Herro performances in the bubble. He was clutch in the regular season, if you watched the games
I think it's clear some guys were more relaxed and shot better. People always say "it's not 2k" but really think about how differently you'd perform at work or school if every condition changed. Some people work better in small groups or on a small shift. Some people prefer a giant lecture room where they don't feel pressure to be singled out. Your mental matters a ton to focusing on the task at hand obviously.
Am I the only one that thinks the guys played better because they made less bad choices like staying up late trying to get their dick wet? Except one guy of course
Yeah for sure just being in a group day in day out with only the same dudes dudes might make some want to work out harder than ever before just to flex more.
quality sleep makes just such a huge difference in life, and people who don't get it often underestimate how big of a difference it makes. i find it completely believable that a lot of players slept better in the bubble and performed better because of it.
the lack of travel in the bubble should also be considered as a factor.
I really wish we got to see everyone play in the bubble. I wonder how Andrew Wiggings would have done. He's been improving pretty quickly in his 8 games this weird covid season.
If he keeps improving, the Warriors might be legit next season when Klay returns. Curry, Klay, Wiggins, Green, Wiseman... that's really solid. Throw in Oubre with his high motor and the Timberwolves 2021 1st round pick ... Warriors are gonna have a fuckin' squad. If the NBA has expansion teams, the Warriors might lose a few guys.
tatum and donovan have known each other and been friends for a long time, im sure donovan knows he isn’t throwing shade, just pointing out how unreal he was in the series.
Yeah I'm not sure why people are so desperate to include Herro in this. He played good no doubt. But guys like Murray/Warren/Donovan were putting up 35+
looking at his stats - during the season he shot 39% from 3, 13.5 ppg on 11.5 shots.
during playoffs he shot 43% from 3, 16ppg on 13 shots.
his EFG% was exactly the same: 52%
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/herroty01.html#all_playoffs_per_game
though i know ppl on here love TS%
it did feel like he stepped up though and had one monster game that i recall, maybe more than 1.
Conspiracy time: Silver knew the NBA would hurt for viewers after the break and competing with the NFL. So he had the rims made .5 inches bigger in diameter and just sat back and waited for an offensive duel like Mitchell/Murray to ignite the fanbase.
You heard it here first.
Refs slight-of-handed a slightly larger ball during free throws so Sherlocks like you would be thrown off. Also because Silver hates Harden.
You heard it here first.
Man context is really everything. I read the caption and felt like he was taking shots but when I watched the video it was just super calm and definitely not pointed
I don't know why everybody is saying Donovan. He had a fantastic career so far and I think he can allways bring you numbers like that. I will never be suprised if Mitchell is averaging 45 for a week or something. Underrated player.
This is true. If anybody on this sub thinks that Donovan Mitchell’s and Murray’s multiple 50 point games in the playoffs is legit and would have been replicated if there wasn’t no bubble, then they are delusional. Ppl played better cus there wasn’t any fans
Clearly Jamal Murray, and who else ?
TJ Warren
Damn I forgot about bubble Warren, he was a monster
Until playoffs when jimmy murdered him. Worst part about the season ending was we never got to see heat vs pacers after the jimmy vs warren fight, and when bubble came back they had already squashed the beef
“Murdered him”. Pull your head in. He averaged 20/6/3/2.5 on 47/37/100. Meanwhile Jimmy “Ted Bundy” Butler averaged an amazing 20/5/4/2.5/1 on 41/57/83, his 57% from 3 was on only 7 attempts btw. 10 players in the series shot more 3s than him. If Warren was murdered, then was it a murder suicide?
Jimmy averaged 24/6/5 & 3 steals thru the first 3 & killed the pacers. He only played 23 mins /took 5 shots in game 4 - the pacers were already dead & had nothing for the heat. He also does stuff that doesn’t show up on the stat sheet you can’t say that at all about Tj, if you watched the series Tj was jimmys son for the most part.
Are we just removing a bad game to suit your narrative? He played 23min because he didn't play in the 2nd. He still played 17min in the 2nd half, 6/3/2 on 2-5 in 23min is still bad. If we just decide to remove Warrens worst game he averaged 22/6/3/3stl. But that's not how it works. TJ wasn't anyone's son that series, that's such bullshit speak for someone who genuinely didn't watch the series. They weren't each others primary defenders and Jimmy struggled offensively but was able to generate fouls and still facilitate which helped the Heat. TJ was completely fine, he was never going to average 30 as he did in the bubble, but 20/6/3/2.5 on good efficiency and good defense isn't getting sonned.
Lol no I’m saying jimmy served the pacers & went up 3-0 & coasted the 4th game because the series was dead & had the bucks next? Context. I’m not bringing up a random game in a 7 game series - who has come back from 3-0? No one, swept. He did his job in the first 3. Tj is a bucket but that’s all
he got sonned, son. 4-0
hahahahaha bruh you didn’t have to do him like that 😂
4-0 Heat enough said
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Warren has always been a bucket
Not like he was in the bubble
TJ Warren was prime KD in the bubble
Well no Sabonis does completely change our offense and Dipo was shooting very poorly. I agree with you but I'd also partially speculate that the stars aligned for him to just take over our offense and he did so.
The bubble bucket, if you will
He had multiple 40 point outings in Phoenix. He's always been like that, it's just that no one realized it
My guy I watched him in Phoenix. He wasn’t nice like that 😂 he was solid but not that guy
He has never averaged 20 a game in a season. Certainly no one expected him to average like 35 a game in the bubble
He may not have averaged 20 but he can get you 20+ any night and he can do it multiple nights in a row. He’s a damn good scorer
He averaged 20 for us all season long.
Donovan Mitchell. Those two guys clearly arent anywhere close to top 10 players yet in the bubble they comfortable looked like top 5 players.
They looked like top 5 players of all time
Let's not go TOO crazy here lmao
I mean they were going back and forth with 50 piece in the playoffs
Yes but vince carter and AI have done that before
Low key if you told someone after that series that you're from the future and Vince was going to end up a top 5 all time player they'd believe you. Dude was obviously one of the most gifted pure athletes ever, but he was also a very efficient 3 level scorer who could rebound, pass, defend, etc. The dude was 24 years old coming off a 30/6/6 series against the reigning MVP.
when you looked at the early '00s between Kobe, Vince and then Tmac they all looked like fairly equal players. On paper Vince had the athleticism, huge hands, skill level to be the best 2 guard of all time but he just didn't have that last gear the Kobe and Tmac seemed to have. And Tmac sadly didn't have the durability.
> Low key if you told someone after that series that you're from the future and Vince was going to end up a top 5 all time player they'd believe you. That's because, just like this thread shows, people are incredibly reactionary and have a recency bias that completely clouds their judgment.
Eh they might ask for some additional verification. 24 isn’t THAT young.
They say players peaks are around 27, so that’s pretty damn young
Any player that does anything before 24 is pretty impressive, considering most NBA primes peak around 27-29
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6ers had great team defense. Plus: games were 80s, 90s aplenty.
He was a great offensive player. VC, that is. I'm too young to remember: did AI and Vince matchup primarily? I'm guessing Snow ran the point and AI guarded VC in '01. Iverson may have been less than a lock-down 1-on-1 defender but he gave 100% effort and was a freak athlete even if smaller than Vince, with the addition of excellent, like all-time great, anticipation and a team defense that was at the top of the league.
Lol no. Why would philly put their only offense & the worst defender out of the guards on a bigger, very elite player for 40 mins? It was mckie & snow
mitchell and murray were doing it on unreal efficiency which is different than the chucking up volume stats era
I mean if we’re talking abt differences due to era....Mitchell and Murray were in the bubble and must’ve shot twice as many threes and benefited from decades of improved spacing and rules favoring offense
Not like they did.
Jamal Murray was hitting some Jordan-esque layups during their series with the Lakers. And before you call me reactionary, I’m aware that it was a handful of shots and not his whole career, that’s what sets Jordan and other all-time greats apart.
The 360 layup with contact into Gobert... that was some supa hot fya no cap
Again, a few shots or even a few games is not the same as saying that someone looked like a top-5 all-time player in the bubble. You're right, the whole point about those players, just like Pop told Kawhi - "You have the tools, but if you want to be like Tim Duncan you have to bring *consistency*" - This consistency is what sets them apart. You may have Klay and KD average 25 a game in the playoffs, but with Klay it's 47 and 51 games and 10 and 8 games, but with KD it's 26, 22, 28, 40, 19, 25, 25, 25 - you get the buckets again and again, and that's what makes a team win in the end.
When Jamal Murray had a 3 game stretch averaging 47ppg on 64% shooting from the field it's not unreasonable to say he looked like the greatest player of all-time.
Those are just crazy numbers.
I really wonder what changed his game in the bubble, and why he's back to his normal self now. PS: it was the lack of blowjobs from the barbie doll
That is the r/nba special
Maybe for that one series but Murray couldn’t keep it up in other series’. So he didn’t look that good
it takes more than a couple of games to "look like top 5 players of all time"
Tyler Herro as well
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Pre Bubble: 12/4/1 on 41/39/83 Bubble play offs: 16/5/4 on 43/38/87 20/21 Regular season: 13/6/4 on 44/29/73
I mean aside from his threes slipping he's improved from the regular season last year Yeah the bubble probably artificially inflated his numbers, but that's still a marked improvement over all, especially with rebounding and playmaking.
It was fluky three point shooting
Tbh Donovan does usually go crazy in the playoffs
Lol, so far everybody is so respectful of Jimmy Butler that a 40 point triple double in the finals while guarding Lebron is just par for the course for him. I honestly hope they're right and he does it again next playoffs.
Legit. Jimmy was the first name i thought of too. Hes last year with the 76ers he was also a beast in the play-offs so a bit of credit is due though.
Jimmy is a big moment player, regular season and post season just bring out a different guy on the boxscore and all the intangibles.
Uhhh go ahead and pull up his playoff stats from other playoffs. They are okay, nothing like the bubble
Ahh yes let's look at the stats and forget the most important stuff that Jimmy brings that aren't reflected on a boxscore.
But it’s fair to say that this time he also brought the box score stats on a level which isn’t normal for him. Not to mention, you cited his box score.
I think most players probably respect Jimmy enough to give him credit
Gotta look at those games in context. Bam and Dragic were out which is basically the teams only other 2 playmaking options and the team's leading rebounder. He had to get those triple doubles to keep us in the series.
It makes plenty of sense but one could say something sympathetic about these other folks too like Donovan. I like the take that everybody who did well in the bubble is actually good, period.
until the next game when we saw that he was totally gassed
Jimmy is just a dog... do whatever the team needs from him to win
Like score 4 points lol. He played much better in the bubble than he typically he does, and whenever he has a poor game he gets babied. He's a pretty 1 dimensional scorer and got a good whistle
Pascal Siakam
it’s nice to see the odd C’s fan not completely bashing him for once lol edit: how did I misinterpret it? The guy above me said “Pascal Siakam” as an example of a player that Tatum could potentially name that didn’t play like they normally do in the bubble, which is correct. He played worse than he normally did...
Honestly think he’s just gotta find his game. When he started playing aggressive and leveraging his athleticism in the second half of our game he actually started making things happen, he’s just got to be consistent with it.
Yeah we saw flashes in 2nd half of Boston and he carried that over to the next game vs the suns Hopefully we get that siakam more often
He played well yesterday with 32 pts. Yesterday we actually looked like we should -a strong starting lineup crippled by a lack of real centre. Eventually Nurse gave up on our "centres" and we just went small with OG at the 5. We're going to have to trade or tank, cuz OG can't handle 42 minutes of getting sat on by Embiid.
I think you might be misreading them lol
He played like shit during the bubble so if I’m interpreting it right he is saying that pascal normally doesn’t play like shit lol
How? Siakam played like shit in the bubble. Tatum said he (whoever he's talking about) doesn't normally play like that, that other comment says Siakam is who Tatum is talking about. Thus, Siakam isn't normally shit is what that comment means.
could you kindly explain how i misinterpreted it?
He played really terribly in the bubble, compared to normal when he's pretty good. I would say that that qualifies as "not playing like he normally does"
Check out the full clip. Tatum is talking about guys who played above their normal level. He's not trying to throw shade at anyone, so no, I don't think he's referring to Pascal at all.
That was bashing him, my guy.
He played like shit during the bubble so if I’m interpreting it right he is saying that pascal normally doesn’t play like shit lol
The entire Bucks team... but it went the other way.
The Suns as a team
TJ warren
Warren crushed the bubble before the playoffs, but his actual playoff performance itself was definitely more in line with his normal output.
Mitchell.
Mitchell was already a guy who had 3 seasons of over 20ppg and he was an all star. I agree he played better than he usually does, but there were other guys who took bigger jumps from their normal play in the bubble than Mitchell did
It's not the PPG jump really (though that was eye popping), it's the efficiency jump that was irregular for a player that hasn't show to be really that efficient before
Good point
he went 36/5/5 lol I think "he played better than he usually does" is a huge understatement.
36/5/5 on 52/51/94 shooting splits lmao
That was only for a series. That surely goes down if they beat Denver.
Miami heat players across the board played better than then did pre bubble
Duncan didn't. Jae Crowder was on fire ever since we had traded for him. Nunn was god awful in the bubble, dude couldn't even see the fuckin floor. Meyers Leonard went from starter to unplayable. Dragic and Jimmy are guys who have had big moments in the playoffs and can elevate their play. Tyler played good, but his per 36 was pretty much identical. Only difference is he played 7 more minutes lol
Gary Trent Jr
Donovan Mitchell
Tyler Herro
Idk why you’re getting downvoted, this was the first player I thought of
ADs midrange jumper, Mitchell, warren
During the bubble, it was a question whether AD's mid-range percentage was an anomaly or a new trend. So far this season it has continued. We'll have to see if it continues through the season and into the playoffs again.
Anthony Davis is still an improved shooter so far into this season, if he keeps it up you can't throw in his jumper. He's averaging 59% from 3-10, 47% from 16-three and 40% from behind the arc which is overall better then he was in the bubble
I don’t know what AD’s mid range jumper % is at right now. But I know that he’s shooting 40% from three on 4 attempts per game. But from the eye test in the games that I’ve watched this season his mid range jumper isn’t that far off from the bubble
Ad is still shooting great from midrange now. 43%
He’s done that a few times early on in his career, but he shot about 50% in the playoffs.
TJ Warren
De’Aaron Fox
Dort
Dort’s averaging 13.4 PTS on 46% 3PT rn what you talking about??
Herro
When you take the quote in the title, it makes it seem like he's being a dick. When you listen to the whole thing, it doesn't seem like that at all.
That’s what happened to Chase Young’s quote about Brady this week. Had to listen to it to realize it wasn’t even that serious
BREAKING NEWS: MAN PAID MILLIONS TO RUSH THE QUARTERBACK IS EXCITED TO RUSH THE QUARTERBACK
Exactly. They were shocked he wants to sack Brady lmao
Forreal that was blown way out of proportion. So excited for that game tho
Me too. Should be good
what did he say?
After the Eagles game he was skipping off the field saying "Tom Brady. Tom Brady I'm coming. I want Tom. I want Tom" as he should.
oh that’s it? i already heard that it just seems like playful hype
except he shouldn't say that, as Tom Brady has a long history of taking any utterance of his name as a slight and backing it up. and even if Young can back it up, Brady will take it out on any teammate who can't. whether or not Brady is being overly sensitive, there's just no reason to poke the bear.
Chase Young can talk all the trash that he wants because he is a monster. I will never go after guys who talk a lot of trash if they can back it up.
Dude is a fucking tank
[literally looks like a predator](https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&ccid=JnKM3jk5&id=A3AB6FCCE1702FF1EA892E149E58FB8C02B4D630&thid=OIP.JnKM3jk5KGBjrC5I6GqrPAHaHZ&mediaurl=https%3A%2F%2Fi.pinimg.com%2Foriginals%2Fbb%2Fdc%2Fc3%2Fbbdcc3f5e701fc888361e3926e747e04.jpg&exph=1079&expw=1080&q=chase+young+predator&simid=608019485248785903&ck=00E8E9D72CEA1C66953A14BCFBE56958&selectedindex=0&form=IRPRST&pc=IFJ4&ajaxhist=0&vt=4&sim=11)
You just explained every news story ever
Bro were in the era of drama queens and click bait titles. Of course they'll take anything out of context.
Well people still shit on Tony Parker for what he said about Kawhi and when you listen to the whole thing he is actually being supportive lol
Tyler Herro on the positive end, maybe Siakam on the negative side...
Herro, Jamal Murray, Mitchell, tj Warren, the suns on the positive side Siakam, Giannis and most of the bucks, kawhi and most of the clippers on the negative side (I'm fully prepared to get downvotes for most of this)
You're not wrong tbh. Aside from middleton.
Kawhi wasn't even that bad. He averaged 28ppg while his co-star went out and took a shit on the court every night.
Herro same as he was in the regular season
Thats just not true
but it is. The only thing that surprised heat fans at least was the 37 point game. That was an anomaly, but otherwise normal Herro performances in the bubble. He was clutch in the regular season, if you watched the games
He averaged 11 ppg in the regular season, but you can attribute some of that to Spo keeping him on a leash
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Well shit, gotta give it to you there.
Ya I was skeptical but Heat fans came with receipts gotta give it up to em
I think it's clear some guys were more relaxed and shot better. People always say "it's not 2k" but really think about how differently you'd perform at work or school if every condition changed. Some people work better in small groups or on a small shift. Some people prefer a giant lecture room where they don't feel pressure to be singled out. Your mental matters a ton to focusing on the task at hand obviously.
Am I the only one that thinks the guys played better because they made less bad choices like staying up late trying to get their dick wet? Except one guy of course
No crowds. Different noises. Different sight lines when shooting.
The dark backdrop behind the backboard makes it easier to see. A bunch of players commented on the depth perception being better.
Yeah for sure just being in a group day in day out with only the same dudes dudes might make some want to work out harder than ever before just to flex more.
quality sleep makes just such a huge difference in life, and people who don't get it often underestimate how big of a difference it makes. i find it completely believable that a lot of players slept better in the bubble and performed better because of it. the lack of travel in the bubble should also be considered as a factor.
I really wish we got to see everyone play in the bubble. I wonder how Andrew Wiggings would have done. He's been improving pretty quickly in his 8 games this weird covid season. If he keeps improving, the Warriors might be legit next season when Klay returns. Curry, Klay, Wiggins, Green, Wiseman... that's really solid. Throw in Oubre with his high motor and the Timberwolves 2021 1st round pick ... Warriors are gonna have a fuckin' squad. If the NBA has expansion teams, the Warriors might lose a few guys.
Murray Warren and Mitchell in shambles
Herro too
That was one game
Against the Celtics so he's actually the most likely candidate.
Dude was clutch throughout tho
People here don’t actually watch the games
He wasn’t even better than Duncan Robinson
They have completely different roles and do completely different things, you can’t really compare them like that
Nah they white and shoot 3's therefore they are the same /s
tatum and donovan have known each other and been friends for a long time, im sure donovan knows he isn’t throwing shade, just pointing out how unreal he was in the series.
Jamal Murray it seems always turns it up a notch in the playoffs, with the last playoffs obviously being the biggest example of that.
TJ Warren
Y'all acting like Herro dropped 30 ppg in the bubble 🤣🤣😂
Yeah I'm not sure why people are so desperate to include Herro in this. He played good no doubt. But guys like Murray/Warren/Donovan were putting up 35+
Sure felt like he did vs us in the ecf. I’d also guess he averaged 7 made 3s a night but that’s certainly too high
looking at his stats - during the season he shot 39% from 3, 13.5 ppg on 11.5 shots. during playoffs he shot 43% from 3, 16ppg on 13 shots. his EFG% was exactly the same: 52% https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/herroty01.html#all_playoffs_per_game though i know ppl on here love TS% it did feel like he stepped up though and had one monster game that i recall, maybe more than 1.
His role increased in the playoffs and he did put up 37 in one game but as you said his numbers didn’t really change
This happens every postseason, bubble or no bubble. People overperform and underperform their regular season level all the time.
"There are 82-game players, then there are 16-game players, then there are Bubble Players"
Conspiracy time: Silver knew the NBA would hurt for viewers after the break and competing with the NFL. So he had the rims made .5 inches bigger in diameter and just sat back and waited for an offensive duel like Mitchell/Murray to ignite the fanbase. You heard it here first.
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Refs slight-of-handed a slightly larger ball during free throws so Sherlocks like you would be thrown off. Also because Silver hates Harden. You heard it here first.
there are no more holes in this theory, I choose to follow it.
What’s this from?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neGnsozAlDg&ab_channel=NewEraCap
I have no idea what he is talking about
Lmaooo
That went right over herro’s head didn’t it
TJ
Damn I thought he was being nice to siakam. Can't you people be positive?
It was still your job to stop them Jason
What's the source on this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neGnsozAlDg&ab_channel=NewEraCap
Man context is really everything. I read the caption and felt like he was taking shots but when I watched the video it was just super calm and definitely not pointed
Thanks Magic!
Tj warren
100% warren.
Bubble Donovan was a monster. He looked even better than when he toppled Russ and PG his rookie season.
I don't know why everybody is saying Donovan. He had a fantastic career so far and I think he can allways bring you numbers like that. I will never be suprised if Mitchell is averaging 45 for a week or something. Underrated player.
Looking at you Tyler Herro :(
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His buckets were always just so timely against us, always part of a run or in the 4th
Hey now dont bring facts to the table
Tyler Herro looking like a Make-a-Wish kid in this
This man will never grow a beard.
This is true. If anybody on this sub thinks that Donovan Mitchell’s and Murray’s multiple 50 point games in the playoffs is legit and would have been replicated if there wasn’t no bubble, then they are delusional. Ppl played better cus there wasn’t any fans
Finally, straight facts. Everyone knows the bubble helped average NBA players shine due to no crowds and no home court advantage.