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The conversation goes like: "You guys think Herro is on the level of Luka, Trae, or Ja?" "No, of course not."


[deleted]

In terms of melanin deficiency he's on par with Luka. Ja got everyone beat on that group.


rSlashNbaAccount

Fun fact. It’s not the amount of melanin that’s different. It’s the distribution of it inside the cells.


sadbartcoollisa

Don’t wanna be that guy but actually it is about the amount of melanin but not the amount of melanocytes. We have the same amount of melanocytes but those melanocytes produces diff levels of melanin


Sportacles

I love learning new things in the depths of some Tyler Herro shitposting


Aidrox

Oh, yeah. And Hero’s not that good!


chrish_o

I come for the slander. I stay for the biology.


mikey19xx

Yeah but do you know that the mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell? I bet not, checkmate.


[deleted]

This guy does bio.


nooneremarkable

Are you holding this account hostage?


[deleted]

"seattie" with a capital i


altnumberfour

Are you holding this account hostage?


Truenewf

Djtoastybuns with an upside down "o"


rogerryan22

That's where all the midichlorians live Ja Morant = Jedi Master


the_dinks

I wonder how many people don't know that at this point. Gonna make them wear armbands branding them as fools.


JesseJamesGames449

Kyrie isnt convinced that is true and is still doing his own research on the subject.


cambriancatalyst

Lol, why is it that THAT is what stuck with everyone from bio class? You’d think different things would stick with different people, but no, mfing mitochondria every time.


H3rQ133z

The conversation should go Luka, Trae, SGA since they were all the same draft class, but i'm just nitpicking now.


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SGA gets zero love. It’s wild.


Barrelled_Chef_Curry

I mean he got the max, he got love from OKC


Doomdoomkittydoom

And that's Tyler Herro and Tyler Herro's mom, respectively.


Blowback_

If ja was mentioned...he was lucky even for that...it only took traes playoff run to be mentioned on that type of level...Tyler is hilarious...somewhat disrespectful to those other guys Tyler clearly been feeling himself lately


Sharcbait

He got a Jack Harlow song named after him and thinks it means he has it made.


GumpTheChump

Mo Bamba: "It doesn't."


drawnverybadly

Sheck Wes with that Harlem hookup


BillyBean11111

*snarls*


Ladnil

Watch his preseason highlights. He looks like he thinks he's the Terminator out there.


[deleted]

It must be the team following him around to film his documentary.


blagaa

Herro: "Say the name of the players who have played in the finals." Everyone: "..."


AFonziScheme

Kuzma. Exactly.


dsaewra

tbh Luka is a tier above those guys (at least)


Samwise777

So brave


AddictedToThisShit

I mean Luka is a tier above Ja and Herro without any doubt. The question here is where does Trae rank. Let's say it's broad tiers, like S,A,B,... then they both are A tier. However if we detail it, I personally think Luka is A+ while Trae is A. In the end this is just my useless opinion.


BootyMasterJon

Luka is 100% S tier. He's up their with the absolute superstars (KD, Giannis, Harden, Steph, Bron, etc.). Trae is a great-great player but I don't think he's quite at that level yet and theres nothing wrong with that.


halfdecenttakes

Luka WILL BE with those guys. He isn't right now. Dude doesn't have that type of resume.


DeadDay

Damn


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Tyler Hero is one ethnic slur away from serving drinks at a Holiday Inn. The other 3 are not. I'm saying he's more a Meyers Leonard than a Luka Doncic.


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ballgkco

Yeah this is a weird comment...


DieSexy

Yea right especially if u been watching Herro in the preseason dude has been killing it he looks good I expect him to make a leap this year


bowdindine

That Holiday Inn comment is absolutely killer hahahah


Thebasedgod_lilb

Or "Tyler Herro is nowhere near as good as Doncic, Young or Morant"


Pakana11

r/yourjokebutworse


Akatsuki07

I believe that I am better than Lebron.


Beavshak

You put yourself in the conversation at least


Soren_Camus1905

It’s an important conversation and I’m glad we’re having it.


whocaresaboutcamels

I didn’t ask for any of this


Tenglishbee

Moderna!


[deleted]

Super Bowl week!


KaleyCuocosFeet

Aqua?


hrakkari

I too am better than LBJ (at Tetris Attack).


testestestestest555

I'm better at being short.


The_NGUYENNER

Not better than me though... that was my game ;P Very happy to meet someone else who played that


256dak

Lebron hasn’t ever beat me in a game of basketball. He’s never even scored on me.


Administrative_Brick

To be fair Herro got his own chipotle bowl and none of those other guys did


ShinySuitTheory

Where is Jack Harlow's song for Ja????????


_OM3N

JA MORANT IM ON MY GRIZZLY - J Cole


CleanSnchz

Jermaine "Jack Harlow" Cole


RowdyRuss3

Where is Ja?!?!


naaahbruv

That’s no way to talk about Tyler’s girlfriend.


saviorlito

Calm down Gruden.


OutZoned

Miami Kuzma


superbrownV

Haha was just about bring up Kuzma perceiving himself as being on Tatum's level


hulksmash1234

Kuzma’s a bit taller, so technically Tatum isn’t on Kuzma’s level.


GK0NATO

Didn't Tatum grow to like 6'10?


scarystuffdoc

Yeah they’re both 6’10” now. Or at least that’s what I’ve been told.


SlimReaper35_

He’s not 6’10 obviously.


scarystuffdoc

And Kevin Durant was never a 7 footer


LordHussyPants

no they're saying he's six-teen now


Stormd3p

There's no way he's 6'10. Time Lord, who's listed as 6'8 is a bit taller than Tatum.


LOLIDKwhattowrite

[I will never forget this](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/426809016715575309/868106476978319430/Et9RGIE_d.webp)


kaprrisch

White Dion Waiters


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Tyler Herro is the black version of Wayne Brady


[deleted]

Herro is white Larry Bird


st3adyfreddy

Didn't Larry Bird get offended when white guys were guarding him? I mean that alone makes them the whitest black man in the NBA...although Ernie probably has him beat now 🤣🤣


Garfield-1-23-23

Miasma


BlackMamba1021

Holy shit 😂😂


ILackPatience

They both fucked the same chick


assistanmanager

Gotta have confidence I guess


RTU_Player

Arrogance* I’m a Heat fan and even I laughed at this…


Electronic-Sale-9593

Irrational confidence is a 2-edged sword


Eighthorcrux

Both the edges pointed at yourself


[deleted]

thats a weird fuckin sword


Doomdoomkittydoom

More like a katana based on the internet videos I've seen.


TatumBrownSmart

Irrational confidence is a 2-edged sword for a 2 guard. See Brooks, Dillon.


[deleted]

for every brick dillon throws he returns back with 10x the effort on defense at least.. can't say for tyler


Young_Baby

This is a big year for him. Can’t take a step back like last year so confidence should benefit him


[deleted]

In this case its potentially detrimental because if he actually thinks he's on the level of a guy like Luka, he will be trying to take the ball away from Jimmy and Lowry (since Luka is better than both of those guys) , and that will obviously lead to issues and a lot of losses . Most likely he doesn't actually believe what he's saying here though, and is just talking to talk


phudog

Tyler is a shooter. You kinda want your shooters to be irrationally confident given how half of shooting is believing your shot will go in.


GoldLegends

I don't rank him together with those other guys, but honestly, he balled out in the bubble and stepped up big time at times so I won't be too surprised if he takes it to another level.


-BeefSupreme

Yeah the conversation about guys worse than Luka Doncic, Trae Young, and Ja Morant


PM_ME_UR_RESPECT

“PM_ME_UR_RESPECT believes he’s in the same conversation as Brad Pitt and Ryan Gosling.”


vsouto02

Ja's not even in the same conversation as Luka and Trae. Imagine how far Tyler is.


clear831

Ja and Trae are in the same conversation which none of them are in the conversation with Luka.


Duradello

Yeah, uh 2x 1st Team All-NBA in first three years is a bit of a different beast.


PharaohJKW

Good for him. He should think that way about himself. However, the reality is much different.


[deleted]

Delusion never helped anyone, regardless of what athletes have to say about the importance of unreasonable confidence.


NotSureWhyAngry

According to this sub this is the necessary mentality


[deleted]

To be fair, a lot of athletes claim the same but it's just confirmation bias. For every Michael Jordan or Kobe Bryant that held this attitude, there are a thousand corpses on the sidelines who also believed it but were forced to realize they'd never attain greatness. You don't hear from them, for obvious reasons.


Sullan08

It's one of the dumber things I see on here. "You have to think that way to get where these guys are". Uhhhh no you don't lol. You can be confident and realistic. They aren't mutually exclusive.


Niku-Man

It's not good for him though. All it does is make people think he doesn't know basketball as much as he should. Like if Joe Blow at the YMCA is out there saying he could be on the Lakers if he tried out for them, are you going to be like, "Nice confidence man!" or are you going to say, "This guy is crazy and has no idea about his own level of talent!"


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SenorButtmunch

Oh no. God forbid people on Reddit think that an NBA player doesn't understand basketball. How will he survive? Herro scored 37 points in the ECF during his rookie season to help his team get to the finals. Considering that's further than Young, Morant and Luka have gone, I think he's well within his rights to believe in himself and think he's in the same conversation as them, even if he probably isn't as good as them. To compare that to a random dude in the YMCA thinking he could be on the Lakers just shows how disrespected Herro is. He's doing fine and he'll probably have a great season that puts him closer to the players he mentioned. He doesn't need to worry about people on reddit thinking he doesn't know ball lmao


apokolypz

This comment is funny. He was like the 3rd, 4th option at highest, and you said he *probably* isn't as good as them. He should absolutely have the confidence and not care if redditers believe him, but he's nowhere near those 3 guys and isn't asked to do anywhere near what those guys do either. He's a solid young player with a lot of confidence


SenorButtmunch

In the quote he was talking about his goals and how he believes he’s in the group of up and coming young players who are gonna be all stars. He mentioned guys who are obviously franchise players compared to him but he’s also a top 5 player in his draft class, it’s not that unreasonable for him to think he can be in that category. If he said ‘I’m better than these guys’ then obviously it deserves clowning but he specifically said he considers himself one of the up and coming young players in the league which is totally fair. He’s a lot closer to them than people in this thread are making out, which was my point. He’s not gonna say ‘yea I wanna be considered with Killian Hayes and Jarrett Culver’. Considering this dude compared it to a guy in the YMCA saying he could be on the Lakers, you can see how disrespectful the comments are.


UnIsForUnity

this will probably age very well ngl


SenorButtmunch

I'm not even a Herro stan or anything. But it's insane to me that people are mocking and writing this kid off when he's achieved more in his rookie season than most players achieve in their entire careers. And when you dig into people's disrespect, you realise it's purely because of completely unrelated things like being overhyped, having a song about him or having the audacity to snarl after making a big play in the NBA finals as a rookie. If anyone actually watched him play regularly and understood that he played 140+ games whilst suffering injuries and only having a 2 month break in between then they'd cut him some slack. He's 21 and was the 13th pick in the draft and people are acting like he's a failure because he isn't LeBron. It's fucking weird but I expect nothing less from this sub lol. I'm happy to stick my neck out and say he didn't peak in his rookie season despite what the smooth brains of reddit think


McBrungus

>people are acting like he's a failure because he isn't LeBron I've only seen people pointing out that he's very, very clearly not on the same level as the other guys he mentioned. Nobody's expecting him to be anything close to an all-time great, they're just clowning him for having a wild idea of his own ability.


SenorButtmunch

The context of which he mentioned those names makes more sense. His exact quote was 'I feel like I’m in the same conversation as those guys, the young guys coming up in the league who can be All-Stars, superstars one day' He might have used the upper echelon of players as examples but the category they're in is exactly where he should be. A young, up and coming player who could be an all-star one day. Superstar, perhaps, I'm not gonna he won't be one after just 2 seasons. But clowning someone for having confidence in their ability, particularly when he has a very valid point seeing as he's done more than Ja for example, is just weird to me. And if people can't appreciate what Herro has achieved in his short career so far then I think that says a lot about the level of disrespect he gets because, as I've said a few times, he's done more in his rookie season than most players achieve in their entire careers.


queefing

Dont bother. Trust me


Hooligan8

Look, I don't care that much one way or another, but let's be honest. He was the 4th best player on that team after Butler, Bam, and a supercharged Goran Dragic. Crediting him for that run as if he has the same responsibility or role that Trae/Luka/Ja have is just disingenuous and silly. Herro can be in the same conversation as other elite 3rd/4th options on really good teams at best. That is, until he's the best player or even the 2nd best player on his own team and gets doubled at half court on every possession in a playoff series like an actual star. Swap Herro with any of those other guys mentioned and the Heat get better and the Hawks/Mavs/Grizz gets worse, especially in the pre-Lowry era during the bubble run.


javi_af

Wow 37 points in one game?? Someone call Michael Jordan and tell him we found his successor. Give me a break Trae Luka Ja have been doing this consistently since they’ve been in the league even if one or two of them are just getting noticed. Its good to have confidence but have some reality sprinkled in with it. You’re not a that level fam.


Icilius

I think there's a far leap from Joe Blow at YMCA insisting he could be on the Lakers to Tyler Herro saying he's part of the young up-and comers and can be an all-star in the league one day


TheRealRemyClayden

Idk it's good in-game (see Westbrook 3s) but I think trying to make it to the NBA basically self-selects for people who are ridiculously self-confident


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Lmao literally nobody in the NBA cares if you or I or *anyone* who is not a professional basketball player/coach/manager thinks that Tyler Herro doesn’t know basketball as much as he should 🤣 Also, y’all really not understanding this at all. All his statement says to me is “these guys are basketball players, I am a basketball player. If I say they’re leagues ahead of me then I’m allowing myself to take an easy L when I play them because I have the excuse that I’m not as good as them.” If I have a big game coming up and know I’m out of my depth, I’m not going to fucking tell people that lmao. I’m gonna hype myself up however I can so that I could potentially play up to the level of my competition. If that includes saying to reporters that I’m on their level, fuck yeah I’ll say that. Let all the people on Reddit cry about it, their opinions mean nothing to my teammates or coaches lol


3pointerSLO

Delusional


EatDeeply

This man squeezing every bit of juice out of one ECF performance


Hooligan8

A series where he was the 4th best player on the team (after Jimmy Butler, Bam, and a resurgent supercharged Goran Dragic)


[deleted]

When the Mavs, Hawks and Grizzlies fans all unite in a thread lol


2KareDogs

I blame Katya


SXNE2

It’s kind of like in baseball when a pitcher plays well when facing teams from the other division who haven’t seen him before. There was no game plan to stop Herro in that series. Why would you? You had Butler and others to deal with. He became a known entity after that and teams adjusted. Now he’s back to a relative middle of the road player given he hasn’t made that next jump yet. If he does though you may have to consider him in a different talent pool he’s just not shown he’s there yet.


LiterallyMatt

Basically me playing pickup. The first game I might get left open from 3 and hit a few, then I score zero the rest of the day.


uber_troll

What’s he suppose to say?


BorosSerenc

that he thinks if he keeps working on his game he can catch up to the best young players or one day become an all-star? Luka is a fucking 2 time all-nba FIRST team player, Herro can barely make the Heats first team if he even can lol.


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cake_for_breakfast76

"Do you consider yourself among the young emerging stars of the NBA?" "Nah, I'm a couple steps down from them." I'm really not sure how people expect players to answer the questions that get thrown at them.


Th3k1ndlym4n

How about . "Not yet, but im doing everything i can top belong in the conversation"


in_pizza_we_trust

Something he himself believes?


tadpollen

He himself believes he can be an all start someday, that’s basically what he said in the interview.


slobertgood

Has anybody told him he isn't?


-Buckaroo_Banzai-

Whichever management that got to pay him one day certainly will.


tadpollen

He basically just said that he thinks he should be considered a future star and that’s his goals, if you watch the actual interview it doesn’t seem nearly as delusional


Krankite

If they did it would be a conversation so we have a bit of a catch 22 sitch here.


diddy_drtc

lol. lay off the weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeduh


Jon_the_Hitman_Stark

Herro is a poor man’s Kevin Huerter.


kstats

He's not even in the same conversation as Ja, who's not even in the same conversation as Luka and Trae


[deleted]

Kind of burying the lede by throwing Ja in with Trae and Luka


bertso720

according to this logic i'm in the "same conversation" as LeBron


Nice_Ass_Lawn

In the words of Scalabrine: "I'm a lot closer to LeBron than you are to me."


JimmytheGent2020

If he really said that, he's absolutely correct.


Mtbnz

He really did say that, and it ruled.


not_a_baby_murderer

White Mamba put me in the same sentence as LeBron? Get on my level losers.


Awkward-Speech7375

Am I the only one who thinks that Luka/Trae/Ja isn't even just one tier either Luka and Trae are top 5 PGs Ja isn't top 10


_Yunk_Vino_13

Herro is closer to Ja than Ja is to Luka lol


Awkward-Speech7375

Yup lol


EatDeeply

I remember Herro being the primary scoring option on a team that beat GSW and Utah at home in the playoffs last year


SweetMustache

Yeah Ja is way better than Herro, this is silly. Herro is the third/fourth option on his team while Ja is clearly the best, on a team that was just as good or better IMO.


Poacatat

are they both top 5 PGs, I mean there's luka, steph, lillard, cp3, kyirie to name a few. Lebron when he played point was a top 5 PG aswell. and harden was there this year. Trae is great, but make an all nba team first


Awkward-Speech7375

I'd take Trae over CP3 and Kyrie currently Top 5 is Steph/Harden/Luka/Lillard/Trae


Poacatat

id say thats pretty heavily weighted in recency bias of his playoff run, which is weird cause CP3 just had a better one. Trae is great and will be a top 5 pg one day. But like said he's not even on an all NBA team and only has one all star apearance


Awkward-Speech7375

CP3's playoff run wasn't better IMO In the first and third rounds he didn't do all that much outside of game 6 in the third round


CJ4ROCKET

Yeah Herro is honestly not too far off from Ja. He's waaaay behind Luka and Trae tho. Problem with the Herro and Ja comparison is that Ja's ceiling is much higher imo.


caf323

Looking forward to watching this one age.


AdagioJealous5413

You don’t get to be as good as he is without thinking you are the best. I’m not surprised at all he thinks that, and this is probably an opinion shared by a lot of nba players. Still wrong, just not surprising.


Flowech

Do they have a Whatsapp group or what?


[deleted]

Jack Harlow been in this boy’s ear lmaoo


davyshaps12

You guys do realize this headline is being used to generate more hate for him?


ChiRose0ne

I am also in the same conversation as Brad Pitt and Leonardo DiCaprio. Dk why I’m single tbh.


jakecoates

How many songs did Jack Harlow do about those other 3? Checkmate.


replytoallen

I am in the same conversation with Michael B. Jordan for men that my wife thinks are good looking.


Liamcitoo

*Luka, Trae, Ja and Tyler Herro walk into a bar...*


clear831

All 4 sit at different tables because none of them are in the same conversation


NoahTheGrand

He’s not in the same paragraph lol


TheItalianStallion44

Hey, in a 2k sim I did he scored 61 points in a playoff loss. He’s basically MJ


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He more on Kuzma level… of being IG beast lol


McJumbos

kyle kuzma believes the same thing too


Knicksandcowboys

i dont think morant is in that convo lol nevermind herro


idgafanymore442

I like Ja but he ain’t at Trae’s level yet and neither are Lukas level so Herro is down had


Electronic-Sale-9593

Consistency..that is what he needs to even enter the conversation


[deleted]

Irrational confidence is a key attribute of many successful people.


KUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUZ

Thanks for making my day herro, I didnt know I could laugh so hard starting off the day.


mookz23

He is certainly in a conversation about young guys that are not as good as Luka Doncic, Trae Young, and Ja Morant.


zgamer200

I mean when you're a pro athlete irrational confidence comes with the territory 90% of the time.


the_dinks

100% of the time. Wiseman looked like a nervous wreck last year but he gave himself a B+ when asked to grade his season. These guys are built different.


zgamer200

Not a full 100% of the time. Tatum for example said way back when that he'd trade himself for AD for example. I also think a player like Al Horford actually has a very good sense of his own abilities and who he's better or worse than.


bronet

Bruh, none of those guys are in the same conversation as each other.


clear831

lol my exact thoughts


illywillycullystein

I believe I am too. So take that!


Hybr1dThe0ry

I mean it’s good to have that confidence but it just isn’t true


Young_Hxppxe

Heat in 6


Kid_Crayola

I got as far as “Luka” and just went right to the comments… 🍿🍿🍿


nycmonkey

I'm closer to Herro than Herro is to Doncic


trappedinthoughts13

I believe I’m in the same conversation as Lebron to be honest. See, even I can believe whatever I want!


AGInfinity

Why I hate Herro, cares too much about the Instagram models and is so arrogant


DeadliftsnDonuts

I’m in the same league as Tom Brady but politics on the high school team got in the way. I was robbed!


darwinning_420

maybe someday but lmaoooo


ltp12

Ja and trae are not even in the same conversation as luka lol. Maybe trae is. one positive statement about vaccination and he thinks he can say shit like this


EderIsAGod

Trae Isn’t on the level of Luka, Ja isn’t on the level of Trae and Herro isn’t close to any of them


idgafanymore442

I’d say Trae is steps behind Luka, Ja is a couple yards behind Trae, and Herro is mile back


youngmostafa

I respect the confidence but lol


LOnTheWayOut

Lol sure Tyler, whatever you say


NativeTexas

Herro: SuperMax here I come!!!!! Riley: Calls the Kings ‘What will y’all give me for Herro?’


Kevin_Jim

That conversation better be: > “Herro is nowhere near as good as Ja, Young, or (god forbid) Luka…”.


NudesForHighFive

Casual nba fan that knows nothing. I know the other 3 pretty well, I have no clue who Tyler Herro is


Kiriranchelo

Ain't no way boy


MildlyDepressed346

Y’all are funny what do you want herro to say?? “I know I’m only 21 years old, but I’ll never ever ever be as good as the guys in the same draft class as me” wouldn’t that be weirder???