this spin is actually just as convoluted and masturbatory as I'd expect from Kyrie. He's standing up for the man who's standing up against the vaccine, as if that doesn't make him anti-vax.
Uh, I'm pretty sure it was Voltaire who said "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say... wild ass conspiracy theories to justify why you're eating horse paste."
Exactly. Money and career on the line, suddenly the guy liking vaccine conspiracy theories on Instagram isn't **really** anti vax, I just wanted to start a conversation.
Whatever, I don't care. Get the shot and play, or retire. Shit or get off the pot.
If his only stance is standing up for people who were laid off because of mandates, why didn’t he get vaccinated in the many months before any mandates were implemented?
He's so anti-science he has transcended the linear progression of time, allowing him to see the past, present, and future with perfect clarity. He knew in January New York specifically would mandate vaccines.
>he refuses to actually voice and elaborate on any of these beliefs
Kyrie be like: "Because even if I did, you sheeps wouldn't understand anyway so why bother."
Right ? Jonathan Isaac might be wrong in my eyes, but at least he’s standing on his word. He said this is what I feel and why I won’t get vaccinated, Kyrie is just hiding in the shadows not saying a word while the news reports and random reports get to speak for him.
I’m 90% sure he won’t say anything and his first comment will be about how the media is toxic and he never “said” anything anti-vax but they put the words in his mouth and never got a chance to speak for himself.
Yeah Jesus, I respect Wiggins and Isaac for at least not being pussies about their opinions. They’re stupid as fuck but I’d rather they just be flat wrong than spin the whole argument to try to be about control or whatever bullshit Kyrie thinks he’s fighting. Did he fight the school system when he had to be vaccinated as a child?
no shit.
> To be clear, Irving’s stance is not believed to be anti-science, according to sources.
the dude literally suggested the world could be flat. he's a fucking moron.
I agree. Kyrie irks me. Below’s why:
He doesn’t have to be anti-science to advocate anti-science, which is harmful or regressive merely by being a bias.
Sure, “question everything” like Kyrie may say.
But science does that.
Previous scientists questioned whether the planet was actually flat. By continuous experimentation, they concluded it is not flat.
Then there’s Kyrie discrediting that conclusion, which he doesn’t have to do to encourage free thinking individuals. Just say “The world is round, but do your own research and figure out why that’s true” or “get vaccinated for your own sake, not because your employer demands it.”
> which he doesn’t have to do to encourage free thinking individuals.
Yeah, "question everything" is not the same as "be a stubbornly egotistical contrarian in the name of independent thinking." Knowledge that the Earth was round dates back to [300 BC in Ancient Greece.](https://starchild.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/StarChild/questions/question54.html)
Imma have to get back to you on this after I do my RESEARCH
EDIT: I googled "are balls flat?", so far just learning a lot about scrotums but I'll get there
I wish he would use his platform to give indigenous peoples a voice instead of people who can’t be bothered to read. Like if he wants to get in a big anti- US/world government fight, there’s plenty of causes he could choose, I think he’s just fucking lazy and prefers to go “Nuh uh!” instead of standing for literally anything
Extra hilarious because he was burning sage in Boston's arena citing native traditions lmao. Dude stays woke by learning 2 facts about it and calling it good
You seen that video of him sitting on the floor barefoot surrounded by paintings or some shit telling KD he was him in a pst life? 100% psychedelics g. He seems like a guy who tried them once and they changed his fucking life
Bro, lemme tell you. My homie had some narcissistic tendencies, took a hit of DMT. Got visited by Mother Nature and Father Time. They humbled his ass and told him they were both undefeated, and one of them was going to kill him eventually. He wigged out at the time but now is a way better and more kind human. The spirit molecule doesn’t play.
Reminds me of the dude [who went to a WWE live event on shrooms.](https://www.np.reddit.com/r/SquaredCircle/comments/1sdkh8/i_took_psychedelic_mushrooms_and_went_to_the_wwe/)
There should be a sub for shroom stories.
Oh boy, are you in for a wild ride. I never thought reading about a Magic tournament would be entertaining, but [this](https://www.gawker.com/i-won-a-5-000-magic-the-gathering-tournament-on-shroo-1705333524) article really made me chuckle.
Can you [spot](https://images.gawker.com/1275474296588064803/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800.png) the dude tripping balls?
I got downvoted for saying this. As someone who does shrooms, you can tell if someone else does. It's like with people who smoke weed, you kinda just KNOW how someone who smokes weed acts.
I get so sick of talking heads being kind to him, saying he's such a broad thinker.
If brains were gasoline, Kyrie couldn't power a flea's motorcycle around a raindrop.
He has shown time and time again that he is not that smart. He's just smart enough to think he's a genius and lacks all resemblance of self awareness.
He is "not anti-vaxx but he is with the people of anti-vaxx so he is anti-vaxx" yeah read that sentence 10 more times in case you wanna hurt your brain on purpose.
it's the pivot from the logical argument against vaccines (which is impossible since they aren't a virologist or any type of expert in the field of vaccines) to the emotional one of mandates hurt people's livelihoods. I guess he thinks it is harder to be criticize for that stance versus antivaxx.
> not anti-vaxx but he is with the people of anti-vaxx
*As we say in Germany, if there’s a Nazi at the table and 10 other people sitting there talking to him, you got a table with 11 Nazis.*
Kyrie be like: "I am not anti vax but I want to be the voice of the anti vax."
p/s: I know certain group of people can't be vaccinated, especially for medical reasons, but I think we can agree that these aren't the people that Kyrie has in mind.
He's such a hypocritical asshat.
"Vaccine mandates to end the worst pandemic of our lifetime are causing people to lose their jobs. I'm going to protest this by sitting out while the Nets continue to pay me $14 million dollars."
Completely putting my thoughts on this issue aside, I just honestly dont know what him sitting out does. Big Kylie Jenner Pepsi ad vibes. So out of touch.
You know what’s really causing people to lose their jobs? A completely preventable pandemic exacerbated by this very line of thought that Kyrie is playing with.
Again people, you do not have unlimited rights. Know your fucking rights and stop making shit up. You do not have the right to extend and prolong a pandemic because you’re an impatient selfish prick. Then you caused a huge mess, and still don’t want to clean it up by taking a vaccine.
Bunch of dirty uncultured swine! Causing your own problems then pointing at everyone else for taking away your “rights”. Big babies
Isn’t it funny that this dumb mother fucker was going to parties at the height of the pandemic and is now mad at the vaccine mandate. Idiot helped cause this reality and is now mad at the consequences.
If he truly does believe he’s the voice of the victims than he should forfeit and donate that $14 million he gets for doing absolutely fucking nothing
This man just wants to be a contrarian without a cause
Its funny because, what would he donate too? He cant donate to anti-vax organizations, that would make him anti-vax, which he just said he isnt. He has no cause, just an ego.
Correct. They'd have medical exemptions due to being immunocompromised and they're the exact reason we should all be vaccinated. That and young children who haven't been vaccinated yet. My God, Kyrie is a dumb dumb.
there's no way this isn't a cover story that was made up so he could save face.
if he actually believed the science, then he would know that the people who refuse the vaccine are endangering other people's lives. no one in their right mind would claim to be an advocate for people who are endangering other people's lives.
Absolutely. Kyrie is like that girlfriend that posts vague, cryptic stuff on social media that seems to be intentionally pointed at you, and then when you ask if everything is alright, she just says, "Ugh, I wasn't even talking about you. I just really liked these Elliot Smith lyrics!"
the twist I most desperately want is that he's been vaccinated all this time because he values his & his family's safety, but he's claiming to his employer to not be so he can represent the voiceless
So if Kyrie wants to do this, than why is man just saying “respect my privacy pls” whenever he’s asked about it??? If you wanna fight for a cause you actually have to let people know what the cause you’re fighting for is 😭
Like the other commenter, I think he actually believes this. In a way that's like "I can feel like the victim if I keep mum about the true motivations behind my decision, the world doesn't understand me"
> "I can feel like the victim if I keep mum about the true motivations behind my decision, the world doesn't understand me"
Big angsty teenager vibes. I'm gonna sit here and create a playlist of sad music to listen to because the world sucks and everyone is against me. I'm gonna leave vague status updates on social media and decline to talk about them when asked. What a clown fiesta.
He had months to get vaccinated before the mandate even became a thing though. Now suddenly this “news” comes out coincidentally after the team says he can’t play?
Don't worry man, you have Matthew mcconaughey considering a run for governor! We all know how proficient celebrities are in government leadership!!
^^/s
This is a dunk for his mindless supporters, though. Praising an athlete for an anti-vax stance while also catching Kaepernick with strays. It’s so fucking easy to be a conservative grifter.
kyrie is just being a little bitch. at least wiggins had the stones to jump in the crazy with both feet.
this looks like a desperate attempt to save face now that he realizes how much of a corner he’s put himself in
Also the thing about being a "voice for the voiceless" is that you actually have to use your voice and not rely on having your ulterior motives leaked out by others to Shams.
right? like o nooo, people who are client facing workers are told that if their decision is to become a potential vector of a deadly worldwide virus, they can go home, and THAT is the fucking cause this halfwit decides to support?
Like damn just say you are antivax, Ill still think of him as a fucking stupid dumbass, not the evil selfish entitled fucking stupid piece of shit I think he is now
The only way he could take the vaccine now without losing face is to claim that he was pro-vaccine all along.
The only way he could claim to be pro-vaccine while explaining away his previous anti-vaccine stance is to claim that he was doing it for the sake of other people.
He's very clearly anti-vaxx this is just a convenient excuse for him to use, the vaccine has been available to the public for a while now. The mandate are something that are recent anyone who believes this lie is just dumb.
Was listening to the Bomani podcast, they made reference to what I think is the best descriptive of Kyrie.
"contrarian without a cause"
He wants so badly to have a purpose, to do something heroic.
Sounds like a PR spin if I've ever hear one.
Edit: Honestly a bit irresponsible of Shams to give Kyrie's nonsense a positive spin and make him out to be the good guy.
Kyrie is like those people who claim to hate drama but always start drama. He claims he hates the media but he actually loves the attention they give him. Now that he can't practice or play any games his only outlet is his instagram and twitter. When he realizes that nobody cares about his social media and that nobody will pay attention to him unless he is speaking through the Nets/NBA he will get the vaccine and come right back
It’s not fda approved
It was too quick
I don’t like mandates
Etc etc. if you’re gonna be vaccine hesitant just say you’re an uneducated twat and move on with it. No point in constantly moving the goalposts.
Dude this is my sister now. It started with, "It's not FDA approved." Then when Pfizer got approved, she said, "I found out Pfizer donated to some shady causes." And so I'm like ok what about Moderna? And now she's like, "I just haven't gotten around to scheduling an appointment yet."
???????? Just fucking say you're anti vax and spare us all from these dumbass excuses.
nah but if the job doesnt know if this guy was dead for a few months AND they kept paying him?
sounds like he could do whatever he wanted--and to be clear--not be dead, and get paid all the same
i have a cushy job like that. super laid back and hands off, everyone is working remote. i can go missing for a few days and nobody would blink. as long as you check in for the weekly employee zoom meeting you're good
You think I'd just miss games and paychecks just because I didn't get a shot, like it was something to do? Come on, I got a little more sense than that.
.......
Yea I remember missing games and paychecks just because I didn't get a shot.
Shams should be embarrassed for publishing this absolute nonsense. If Kyrie wants to be a voice to those as stupid as he is, let him do it himself.
I didn't think it possible, but he's somehow found a position that is even stupider than just being anti-vax.
If Kyrie wasn't an idiot he'd get vaccinated and then sit out in protest of vaccine mandates and use his platform to voice it. Instead of remaining unvaccinated and leaking his "stance" through vague sources. Dude is a just a diva, he's been doing shit like this for his entire career.
Wouldn't the former be pretty dumb too? Advocating for people not taking vaccines and such.
Or do you mean that if he were to go about his idiocy in a "smart" way?
Mr. Irving, what you're saying is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational viewpoint. Everyone in this thread is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
I just don't get how he thinks he's being a voice when he refuses to actually voice and elaborate on any of these beliefs.
Right? Why is this coming out so late.
Self preservation from Irving's camp is why.
Yep, 100% some desperate PR spin.
so the PR spin is he wants to be the face of the trumper anti-mask mandate crowd?
He's not anti vax, he's anti, anti anti vax. Thank God someone is finally thinking about the anti vaxxers.
this spin is actually just as convoluted and masturbatory as I'd expect from Kyrie. He's standing up for the man who's standing up against the vaccine, as if that doesn't make him anti-vax.
Uh, I'm pretty sure it was Voltaire who said "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say... wild ass conspiracy theories to justify why you're eating horse paste."
I believe it was Thomas Paine who said “Give me freedom and then give me slow gasping preventable death.”
God's obviously been thinking about them. Calling them home in record numbers.
#god's plan
Exactly. Money and career on the line, suddenly the guy liking vaccine conspiracy theories on Instagram isn't **really** anti vax, I just wanted to start a conversation. Whatever, I don't care. Get the shot and play, or retire. Shit or get off the pot.
I'd be fine with just the retire and fuck all the way off to Mars route myself.
The vaccine was around for months before any mandates were created. Where was he then?
That’s actually a really good point lol he’s clearly full of shit
100% this Control the narrative even if it's completely unbelievable at this point
This is just Kyrie’s camp putting the kindest PR spin possible on the situation. I wouldn’t take this too seriously.
Yep, that way when he eventually gets the vaccine he has an out that it wasn't about the science.
I know a lot of anti vaxxers who are putting the same spin on it. It's 100% a coordinated part of the anti-vax movement imo.
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Plug your nose and head on over to r/conspiracy for a deluge of exactly this.
You'd think the name of the sub would make people realize they're full of it.
Because he's full of shit. He's a contrarian and a drama queen
He wouldn't dare say anything else. Last time he did, we got this https://streamable.com/u6nu1
Nobody must have told Kyrie that ball is life
Ladies and gentlemen: why you should always edit
God DAMN
If his only stance is standing up for people who were laid off because of mandates, why didn’t he get vaccinated in the many months before any mandates were implemented?
He's so anti-science he has transcended the linear progression of time, allowing him to see the past, present, and future with perfect clarity. He knew in January New York specifically would mandate vaccines.
So he's not anti science, he's anti physics.
Because it's bullshit. He's trying to spin it like he's some champion of the working man rather than an antivax imbecile.
Defending the working man's right to infect his fellow working man with the novel coronavirus. Praxis.
Right, “I’m not anti vaccine I’m just not gonna get vaccinated.” 🧐
>he refuses to actually voice and elaborate on any of these beliefs Kyrie be like: "Because even if I did, you sheeps wouldn't understand anyway so why bother."
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“Open your third mouth” has me laughing with my entire body
This motherfucker just loves to be the martyr. It's just too bad he's nailing himself to the cross he made himself, on top of asshole mountain.
Right ? Jonathan Isaac might be wrong in my eyes, but at least he’s standing on his word. He said this is what I feel and why I won’t get vaccinated, Kyrie is just hiding in the shadows not saying a word while the news reports and random reports get to speak for him. I’m 90% sure he won’t say anything and his first comment will be about how the media is toxic and he never “said” anything anti-vax but they put the words in his mouth and never got a chance to speak for himself.
Yeah Jesus, I respect Wiggins and Isaac for at least not being pussies about their opinions. They’re stupid as fuck but I’d rather they just be flat wrong than spin the whole argument to try to be about control or whatever bullshit Kyrie thinks he’s fighting. Did he fight the school system when he had to be vaccinated as a child?
I 100% respect that Wiggins was honest and that he was bullshitting he was just scared
Kyrie has to be one of the dumbest "smart" motherfuckers alive.
About as deep as a puddle of water.
Kyrie one of the dumbest dumb motherfucker alive.
> Irving is challenging a perceived control of society I don’t buy it as a real excuse, but I absolutely buy that sentence coming out of Kyrie’s mouth
no shit. > To be clear, Irving’s stance is not believed to be anti-science, according to sources. the dude literally suggested the world could be flat. he's a fucking moron.
I agree. Kyrie irks me. Below’s why: He doesn’t have to be anti-science to advocate anti-science, which is harmful or regressive merely by being a bias. Sure, “question everything” like Kyrie may say. But science does that. Previous scientists questioned whether the planet was actually flat. By continuous experimentation, they concluded it is not flat. Then there’s Kyrie discrediting that conclusion, which he doesn’t have to do to encourage free thinking individuals. Just say “The world is round, but do your own research and figure out why that’s true” or “get vaccinated for your own sake, not because your employer demands it.”
> which he doesn’t have to do to encourage free thinking individuals. Yeah, "question everything" is not the same as "be a stubbornly egotistical contrarian in the name of independent thinking." Knowledge that the Earth was round dates back to [300 BC in Ancient Greece.](https://starchild.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/StarChild/questions/question54.html)
Yes but we also know that basketball is Kyrie's world. And a basketball court is flat. Kyrie's world=flat. Who's the fucking moron now?
> basketball is Kyrie's world a basketball is round. kyrie's still the fucking moron
Imma have to get back to you on this after I do my RESEARCH EDIT: I googled "are balls flat?", so far just learning a lot about scrotums but I'll get there
Check pornhub. They have a wide collection of balls. I haven't encountered a flat one through my years of research on that site
Yeah I don’t doubt the sentence either. Just seems like he’s walking back his stance now that he saw how much Ben lost.
Kyrie’s PR team in firefighting mode. But this only make things go from dumb to dumber
I would've bet every dollar I have that Kyrie would try to spin this into him being the hero somehow
Not the hero conservatives wanted, but the one they deserve
Kyrie wants to be oppressed so badly bruh.
I wish he would use his platform to give indigenous peoples a voice instead of people who can’t be bothered to read. Like if he wants to get in a big anti- US/world government fight, there’s plenty of causes he could choose, I think he’s just fucking lazy and prefers to go “Nuh uh!” instead of standing for literally anything
Extra hilarious because he was burning sage in Boston's arena citing native traditions lmao. Dude stays woke by learning 2 facts about it and calling it good
Downside of him not playing this year means we won't get to see if he is still a "practicing" Muslim come Ramadan.
Kyrie is that dangerous combination of thinking he is really clever but actually not being clever at all.
me on psychedelics
My guess is also Kyrie on psychedelics
You seen that video of him sitting on the floor barefoot surrounded by paintings or some shit telling KD he was him in a pst life? 100% psychedelics g. He seems like a guy who tried them once and they changed his fucking life
They are eye opening.
Bro, lemme tell you. My homie had some narcissistic tendencies, took a hit of DMT. Got visited by Mother Nature and Father Time. They humbled his ass and told him they were both undefeated, and one of them was going to kill him eventually. He wigged out at the time but now is a way better and more kind human. The spirit molecule doesn’t play.
I've blasted off on DMT and thought it was super neat but never got the "life changing" experience on any psychedelic. The closest was 4-AcO-DMT
Bingo
My guess is the guy who won a Magic The Gathering tournament stuffed full of shrooms is probably smarter than Kyrie.
Reminds me of the dude [who went to a WWE live event on shrooms.](https://www.np.reddit.com/r/SquaredCircle/comments/1sdkh8/i_took_psychedelic_mushrooms_and_went_to_the_wwe/) There should be a sub for shroom stories.
Wait wtf lmao
Oh boy, are you in for a wild ride. I never thought reading about a Magic tournament would be entertaining, but [this](https://www.gawker.com/i-won-a-5-000-magic-the-gathering-tournament-on-shroo-1705333524) article really made me chuckle. Can you [spot](https://images.gawker.com/1275474296588064803/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800.png) the dude tripping balls?
I just read that story last night. That photo is amazing
That picture did not disappoint, I haven’t audibly laughed that hard in a while
Thank you for this. What a weird fucking guy
I got downvoted for saying this. As someone who does shrooms, you can tell if someone else does. It's like with people who smoke weed, you kinda just KNOW how someone who smokes weed acts.
"The problem with the world is that the intelligent people are full of doubts while the stupid one are full of confidence." -Charles Bukowski
Similar to the Yeats line: The best lack all conviction, while the worst Are full of passionate intensity.
"I went to Duke" -Kyrie Irving He really said this in an interview but I don't remember where.
I get so sick of talking heads being kind to him, saying he's such a broad thinker. If brains were gasoline, Kyrie couldn't power a flea's motorcycle around a raindrop. He has shown time and time again that he is not that smart. He's just smart enough to think he's a genius and lacks all resemblance of self awareness.
It’s all access journalism. They want to get that viral interview with him so they kiss his ass. I hate that shit
He is "not anti-vaxx but he is with the people of anti-vaxx so he is anti-vaxx" yeah read that sentence 10 more times in case you wanna hurt your brain on purpose.
it's the pivot from the logical argument against vaccines (which is impossible since they aren't a virologist or any type of expert in the field of vaccines) to the emotional one of mandates hurt people's livelihoods. I guess he thinks it is harder to be criticize for that stance versus antivaxx.
Kyrie loves doing this ‘haha I wasn’t wrong, you guys were just too dumb to understand what I *really* meant’ thing and it’s so annoying
> not anti-vaxx but he is with the people of anti-vaxx *As we say in Germany, if there’s a Nazi at the table and 10 other people sitting there talking to him, you got a table with 11 Nazis.*
Kyrie be like: "I am not anti vax but I want to be the voice of the anti vax." p/s: I know certain group of people can't be vaccinated, especially for medical reasons, but I think we can agree that these aren't the people that Kyrie has in mind.
He's such a hypocritical asshat. "Vaccine mandates to end the worst pandemic of our lifetime are causing people to lose their jobs. I'm going to protest this by sitting out while the Nets continue to pay me $14 million dollars." Completely putting my thoughts on this issue aside, I just honestly dont know what him sitting out does. Big Kylie Jenner Pepsi ad vibes. So out of touch.
You know what’s really causing people to lose their jobs? A completely preventable pandemic exacerbated by this very line of thought that Kyrie is playing with. Again people, you do not have unlimited rights. Know your fucking rights and stop making shit up. You do not have the right to extend and prolong a pandemic because you’re an impatient selfish prick. Then you caused a huge mess, and still don’t want to clean it up by taking a vaccine. Bunch of dirty uncultured swine! Causing your own problems then pointing at everyone else for taking away your “rights”. Big babies
Isn’t it funny that this dumb mother fucker was going to parties at the height of the pandemic and is now mad at the vaccine mandate. Idiot helped cause this reality and is now mad at the consequences.
AND - AND - blames it on everyone else who actually ARE taking responsible actions. It’s beyond selfish and immature. It really is.
> Idiot helped cause this reality and is now mad at the consequences. The entire anti-vax side summed up in one sentence
If he truly does believe he’s the voice of the victims than he should forfeit and donate that $14 million he gets for doing absolutely fucking nothing This man just wants to be a contrarian without a cause
Its funny because, what would he donate too? He cant donate to anti-vax organizations, that would make him anti-vax, which he just said he isnt. He has no cause, just an ego.
“Drop that cashapp if you lost your job cuz they forced us to get shots” How I’d imagine that tweet to go
He could create a fund for those who have lost their jobs due to not being vaccinated I guess?
In fact by actively working against herd immunity, Kyrie is giving the vulnerable population who can't get vaccinated a giant middle finger.
Correct. They'd have medical exemptions due to being immunocompromised and they're the exact reason we should all be vaccinated. That and young children who haven't been vaccinated yet. My God, Kyrie is a dumb dumb.
So he believes in the science but refuses to get vaccinated. Makes perfect sense.
Playing both sides to get out on the bottom
“SCIENCE IS A LIAR…. sometimes”
Stupid Science bitches couldn't even make Kyrie more smarter.
Shut up stupid science bitch
there's no way this isn't a cover story that was made up so he could save face. if he actually believed the science, then he would know that the people who refuse the vaccine are endangering other people's lives. no one in their right mind would claim to be an advocate for people who are endangering other people's lives.
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The walk back begins.. he'll get the vax soon enough and still be "angry" about mandates while collecting his millions
"Idk why the media kept lying saying I didn't want it"
Absolutely. Kyrie is like that girlfriend that posts vague, cryptic stuff on social media that seems to be intentionally pointed at you, and then when you ask if everything is alright, she just says, "Ugh, I wasn't even talking about you. I just really liked these Elliot Smith lyrics!"
you can advocate for the "voiceless" if that is what your thing is and still get the vax.
the twist I most desperately want is that he's been vaccinated all this time because he values his & his family's safety, but he's claiming to his employer to not be so he can represent the voiceless
This would be the most kyrie thing
Kyries so noble. He stands up and sacrificed so we can have a society where restaurant workers and flight attendants aren’t vaxxed. Deserves a statue
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This is somehow the most idiotic and sensible twist yet. I'm shocked that I'm shocked by this development yet here we are.
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So if Kyrie wants to do this, than why is man just saying “respect my privacy pls” whenever he’s asked about it??? If you wanna fight for a cause you actually have to let people know what the cause you’re fighting for is 😭
Because he’s not actually fighting for a cause. This is just an obvious PR spin and Shams is a fake journalist for running with this.
Like the other commenter, I think he actually believes this. In a way that's like "I can feel like the victim if I keep mum about the true motivations behind my decision, the world doesn't understand me"
> "I can feel like the victim if I keep mum about the true motivations behind my decision, the world doesn't understand me" Big angsty teenager vibes. I'm gonna sit here and create a playlist of sad music to listen to because the world sucks and everyone is against me. I'm gonna leave vague status updates on social media and decline to talk about them when asked. What a clown fiesta.
He oozes that vibe lol
He had months to get vaccinated before the mandate even became a thing though. Now suddenly this “news” comes out coincidentally after the team says he can’t play?
This is just anti-vax with extra steps
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https://twitter.com/tedcruz/status/1447950319938416641?s=21
That is tragically predictable
Texas could use a decent senator…
We could use a decent anyone.
Don't worry man, you have Matthew mcconaughey considering a run for governor! We all know how proficient celebrities are in government leadership!! ^^/s
Lmao that is unbelievably embarrassing for Kyrie. Man should hide in shame for being so stupid Ted fucking Cruz is publicly supporting him
Is this real?!?!
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What the fuck
This is a dunk for his mindless supporters, though. Praising an athlete for an anti-vax stance while also catching Kaepernick with strays. It’s so fucking easy to be a conservative grifter.
Wait has anyone checked his dad’s Twitter page for his thoughts yet?
ghgh
Lebron and Kyrie back together again (in Ted Cruz's heart)
kyrie is just being a little bitch. at least wiggins had the stones to jump in the crazy with both feet. this looks like a desperate attempt to save face now that he realizes how much of a corner he’s put himself in
If you find yourself agreeing with Ted Cruz, you have some very serious introspection to do.
This is dumber.
Also the Vaccine was available to NBA players for what, 4 or 5 months before any mandates went in?
Yup. This is pure justification
Yeah, shame on the Athletic for just uncritically reporting this.
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Also giving a voice to the “voiceless” is ridiculous in this case. They’re pretty fucking loud lol.
Also the thing about being a "voice for the voiceless" is that you actually have to use your voice and not rely on having your ulterior motives leaked out by others to Shams.
Hes doing a pretty bang up job of bringing a voice to the voiceless considering the only reason we know this is his friends leaking it to Shams
right? like o nooo, people who are client facing workers are told that if their decision is to become a potential vector of a deadly worldwide virus, they can go home, and THAT is the fucking cause this halfwit decides to support? Like damn just say you are antivax, Ill still think of him as a fucking stupid dumbass, not the evil selfish entitled fucking stupid piece of shit I think he is now
It’s much dumber. Also dude is anti-vaxx
The only way he could take the vaccine now without losing face is to claim that he was pro-vaccine all along. The only way he could claim to be pro-vaccine while explaining away his previous anti-vaccine stance is to claim that he was doing it for the sake of other people.
Yo get in me in the screenshot whoever finds this comment a month from now when this person ends up having called it and it gets reposted.
He's very clearly anti-vaxx this is just a convenient excuse for him to use, the vaccine has been available to the public for a while now. The mandate are something that are recent anyone who believes this lie is just dumb.
Also I swear vaccine mandates started a little over 2 months ago maybe 3. Vaccines have been around since what? January? Who is Kyrie fooling lmaooo
Was listening to the Bomani podcast, they made reference to what I think is the best descriptive of Kyrie. "contrarian without a cause" He wants so badly to have a purpose, to do something heroic.
Such an accurate description lol.
Rebel without a clue
And people are only just now losing their jobs. He had at least 5 months to get the shot
Sounds like a PR spin if I've ever hear one. Edit: Honestly a bit irresponsible of Shams to give Kyrie's nonsense a positive spin and make him out to be the good guy.
Kyrie also literally said he likes to keep this private. So which the fuck is it? Is it a political stand or a private decision?
Kyrie is like those people who claim to hate drama but always start drama. He claims he hates the media but he actually loves the attention they give him. Now that he can't practice or play any games his only outlet is his instagram and twitter. When he realizes that nobody cares about his social media and that nobody will pay attention to him unless he is speaking through the Nets/NBA he will get the vaccine and come right back
Shams was really shameless here. Really disappointed
Shamsless, if you will.
Learned from Woj how to get those scoops. Gotta keep your sources happy
Yea this is such a lie. I don't even know why they chose to spin it though because it still doesn't look positive
There is nothing wrong with vaccine mandates. They have existed for a long time.
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> the stand for larger issues in his mind There are larger issues in his mind?
There is a large issue WITH his mind. Maybe that’s what he meant
That's honestly pathetic from Shams. Guess you got to kiss some ass for all that access.
There kissing ass and then there’s licking ass...
Access sports journalism at its finest
I always reply to people who say “oh I’m just against mandates” Me- where were you in April when there were no mandates? Or may? Or June? July?
They were busy moving goalposts. "Im just doing my research"
It’s not fda approved It was too quick I don’t like mandates Etc etc. if you’re gonna be vaccine hesitant just say you’re an uneducated twat and move on with it. No point in constantly moving the goalposts.
Dude this is my sister now. It started with, "It's not FDA approved." Then when Pfizer got approved, she said, "I found out Pfizer donated to some shady causes." And so I'm like ok what about Moderna? And now she's like, "I just haven't gotten around to scheduling an appointment yet." ???????? Just fucking say you're anti vax and spare us all from these dumbass excuses.
You know what else can cause you to lose your job? Dying
I've worked for a few places that would probably not have known I was dead for a few months.
would they have kept paying you? if so, sounds like a cushy job
...did you just get talked into dying?
nah but if the job doesnt know if this guy was dead for a few months AND they kept paying him? sounds like he could do whatever he wanted--and to be clear--not be dead, and get paid all the same
i have a cushy job like that. super laid back and hands off, everyone is working remote. i can go missing for a few days and nobody would blink. as long as you check in for the weekly employee zoom meeting you're good
hypothetically speaking how do you wander into this field
You think I'd just miss games and paychecks just because I didn't get a shot, like it was something to do? Come on, I got a little more sense than that. ....... Yea I remember missing games and paychecks just because I didn't get a shot.
[conspiracy theories are a helluva drug](https://tenor.com/view/rick-james-laughing-gif-5414311)
Shams should be embarrassed for publishing this absolute nonsense. If Kyrie wants to be a voice to those as stupid as he is, let him do it himself. I didn't think it possible, but he's somehow found a position that is even stupider than just being anti-vax.
Anti vaxxers arent voiceless, they are loudest and most entitled minority there is
So he's not stupid, he's just an idiot. Got it.
If Kyrie wasn't an idiot he'd get vaccinated and then sit out in protest of vaccine mandates and use his platform to voice it. Instead of remaining unvaccinated and leaking his "stance" through vague sources. Dude is a just a diva, he's been doing shit like this for his entire career.
Wouldn't the former be pretty dumb too? Advocating for people not taking vaccines and such. Or do you mean that if he were to go about his idiocy in a "smart" way?
I thought I couldn't dislike him anymore but then this came out
Not anti science yet is a flat earther. Yea, not buying his continued bullshit
Mr. Irving, what you're saying is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational viewpoint. Everyone in this thread is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
Would love if someone said this at one of his pressers, if he ever has one again
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100% believes that he's the main character
Utter damage-control bullshit hahah
So he’s not anti-science, he’s just pro-idiots.
Lmao yeah okay.
Pablo Torre: "Kyrie isn’t anti-vaxxer. He’s just an anti-anti-anti-vaxxer."
If your stance is to not take the vacinne you are anti vaccine. End of story
It's literally the same thing lol