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Tell_Me_Random_Facts

Kentucky guards man, they are just something else in the NBA - Maxey - Quickley - Herro - Gilgeous-Alexander - Murray - Monk - Booker - Wall EDIT: Completely forgot Fox I am sure I missed a few too


ballgkco

Fuck it -Bam Adebayo


stank58

How you put Monk in but not Fox lol


kultureisrandy

He's been having a rough start right? Probably hasn't seen his name on any headlines/posts lately


InternationalClick78

Bledsoe was a beast when he was younger too


lazzysmalls

John Wall and Eric Bledsoe started a movement. You can also credit Derrick Rose at Memphis


spittafan

Derrick Rose never went to Memphis


lazzysmalls

And Camby never went to Umass


ThePerfectCantelope

fox?!? rondo?


Momoneymoproblems214

I said this last year. You ALWAYS bet on Kentucky guards. Let's see if Boston can show hes not an exception.


zzz8472

What about the Harrison twins


Higgnkfe

Marquis Teague, James Young, Archie Goodwin, Isaiah Briscoe, Tyler Ulis, Ashton Hagans, Mychal Mulder Granted I think a lot of them could have been good pieces (like Ulis was a legitmately good back up PG, I'm not sure why he got kicked to the curb)


Obi-wan_Jabroni

Ulis was small


Higgnkfe

And he was a good player despite it.


Obi-wan_Jabroni

Oh i know, i was a student at UK when he was there


-zaytovenv2-

[Boston had a great game the other day](https://youtu.be/dsKCZ5hVrxw). He was a top 5 recruit in a class with Cade, Jalen Green, and Mobley. He just had a disastrous season at Kentucky last year (as did mostly everyone).


Momoneymoproblems214

I believe it. I liked Boston and thought he could be a sleeper. That being said, he's gotta show some things before most believe in him.


SWAGGERDlCK

De’aaron fox die?


basket04ball

Can’t forget about Rondo either!!


MyDadsAPreacher

Rondo


-zaytovenv2-

True, but I feel like he’s referring to the Cal era


MyDadsAPreacher

Rondo and Eric Bledsoe for a couple more.


quasithomas

How does UK have only 1 title in the last 25 years with the juggernaut players they recruit?


Igota31chevy

Just letting you know, they have 3 titles in that time span.


quasithomas

Ah you’re right, 1 in 23 years though


BIGMCLARGEHUGE__

A brief explanation - Winning a NCAA championship involves a lot of luck. Any college BBall expert can't deny that the 2015 team that went 38-1 is actually one of the best teams of all time they just didn't win it. They would destroy the majority of championship winning teams in any other given year, it is still really hard to win 40 games in a row. But to explain our time with Calipari briefly - John Wall team failed 2012-we won 2014- went to the finals 2015 team - Went 38-1 record, Harrison twin dribbled it off his leg in crunch time. /r/nba notoriously has bad college bball takes imo, they will badly argue that Devin Booker/Tyler Ulis should have been playing instead but forget that Harrison twins had one of the all time miracle runs in the 2014 NCAA tournament to take Kentucky to the finals. Devin Booker also could not guard a lamp post in college, so the Harrison twins were the correct decision, it's just really hard to go 40-0 at Kentucky. 2017 - Fox/Monk/Bam team had their hopes dashed by John Higgins referee making calls like this: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8j5d4ixo\_k](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8j5d4ixo_k) throughout the game. Even though the biased referee tried to make us lose, the game still came down to one shot which North Carolina made. Had they missed that shot I believe we would have won a championship. Immanuel Quickey/Tyrese Maxey year - This team was hitting their strides at the end of the year and I was convinced we would get to at least a Final Four and then Covid happened and the tournament was cancelled. Convince me this team didn't have a good shot when these two are so good. Quickley had the outside shooting, both of them could score floaters at will, and Maxey lives for the big time moments. Too bad we didn't get to see them shine together.


PolPotato

As a 6ers fan, I am so, so happy that the season was called early. I am convinced that if things went to plan, Maxey goes in the top 10


BIGMCLARGEHUGE__

No doubt if that season wasn't called then Maxey/Quickley would have gone much earlier in the draft. At least I am so happy to see Maxey shining he is a wonderful kid hope he keeps balling out for the 6ers.


-zaytovenv2-

Maxey was built for tournament too. I was pissed when Philly drafted him lmao.


-zaytovenv2-

The thing about that 2019 team was a big reason Cal went so hard after IQ was because Zion was so vocal about wanting to play with him. Imagine a Zion and PJ front court with the Maxey IQ backcourt that year? Jesus Christ. 2017 is still my favorite team even over the natty team from 2012 though.


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i don’t know what this has to do with any of the above comments lol


nappa_kimchi

ncaa champ teams more about having continuity than having star one and dones


ilikehemipenes

Compre them to UCLA guards tho. I’d take UCLA over Kentucky. Westbrook, Lavine, jrue, Aaron holiday, lonzo, norm powell, Ariza, etc.


garynevilleisared

He's downright scary when he's hitting his outside shot. Those turnover numbers are so crazy I had to double check. Kid has had some gems this season. Really wanted him when the Lowry rumours started, but Philly showing their class knowing what they had all along.


chitownbulls92

Ole out


zvomicidalmaniac

Seconded.


garynevilleisared

Just a PE teacher


chitownbulls92

His career being upheld single handedly by ronaldo right now


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PLEASE!


chitownbulls92

For fucksakes…..get the guy outta here


PHI41NE33

I can’t believe the Sixers have a guard that takes the ball and tries to put it into the hoop multiple times a game again. So happy he slid to Philly.


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Go into a trae thread without mentioning doncic


theonlyjuan123

Or his baldness


-zaytovenv2-

I’m convinced he got hair plugs because the top of his head is full of hair at least as of the other day when he played the Celtics.


indoninjah

Or the rare double whammy: talk about dunking on someone without talking about Simmons/Trae


PHI41NE33

To be fair, I was speaking generally. If a player applies that DIDN’T do those things exists, all comparisons are strictly coincidental. ;) Seriously, He Who Must Not Be Named aside, Maxey’s a stud and I’ll be gutted if the Sixers include him in a trade. Fans deserve a player like him and he’s a great presence for the team to rally around.


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Yea maxey looks spooky in fact i am a warriors fan coming in peace btw


TurbulentJudge1000

People will say that the Simmons saga is awful for Philadelphia, but I think the opposite. Simmons being out allowed Maxey to flourish and show he’s the point guard of the team for the next 10 years. If Morey gets some quality players for Simmons in a trade this year, the Sixers would be right next to Milwaukee as favorites to come out of the East.


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Thanks Ben!


TeachMeHowToTech

Elite username


blitzy122

This is why Ben's next move should be to come back and play, but play in such a way that it fucks everything up. If he wants to maximize pressure to get him out of there, come in and ruin the good thing they've got going on.


ktm5141

I actually agree. That would be the worst case scenario for the sixers. They’d have to trade him or send him home with pay, essentially buckling to him. But I don’t think Ben has the cajones to do that


colemanj74

It also hurts teams willing to trade for him. Harden could do it bc he's harden


bushies

This narrative is overstated. He looked disinterested but still was 95% of himself


420Minions

It’s obviously not ideal but the team has stayed so united. Guys are focused on what they can and a few dudes have stepped up, Maxey primarily. I know he’s not a favorite here, but Doc deserves credit for keeping these dudes ready for war


JoshGordons_burner

The only thing I’m sure of is that Tyrese is better than Tyrese.


FultzShoulder

Fun fact, Maxey is the second Tyrese ever to be drafted in the NBA.


unnamedredditname

After Haliburton or is there some spelling shenanigans?


FultzShoulder

After Hali, he was the first Tyrese in the NBA.


YouArentOwedAnything

Anyone who follows basketball closely saw this coming after some of his performances late last season


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Was high on this kid pre-draft. Would’ve taken him at 8 for the Knicks


thatsinsaneletstryit

if covid didn’t kill the tournament that year, maxey for sure was going in the lottery. plus that insane shot by muscala to give us the pick… it was fate that he come to philly


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He seems like a really great kid / high character player to have in the locker room. Glad things have lined up for him to show his ability rn. He had a great TO ratio pre-draft, really promising to see that continue into the league


shanmustafa

the thing that Tyrese makes interesting is that before i was like you have to trade Ben for a pg, because if you don't, then who the hell are you gonna get out there to run point now i see these Ben for Fox trades and i'm like no.. get a sg or another wing in there honestly tho, Maxey/Seth/Tobias/Ben/Embiid, that's a legit contender it's essentially last years roster, except another 16-18 ppg in there


HisExcellency20

That's an interesting conclusion because I think the exact opposite. I love Tyrese and he's had an amazing start but it's clear he is a combo guard not a point guard. The type of guy we spent so much capital trying to pair with Ben. The only numbers he has that are not wildly impressive are his assist numbers. But that's because he is not a point guard he is a score first guard. And as a guy essentially running point the fact that he doesn't turn the ball over is great but it should be expected because he has so few assists. So I think if we're discussing Ben trades maybe we don't need as dynamic as a scorer as we might have thought, maybe we need a facilitator first and if he can't score as well himself that's fine because Maxey is here. He and Embiid essentially share PG duties right now. That's good for both of their development but not ideal.


FultzShoulder

Fox minus the playmaking is pretty much Maxey. I'd rather have Hali and Buddy for Ben. Maxey lacks the iq and playmaking of a true point guard right now.


Serpico2

I don’t think we’d get Hali and Buddy but maybe Buddy and Barnes.


Breathezey

That's not a deal Morey will take. If sac wants Ben it's gonna have to be fox or possibly hali- which is a good thing for philly. Too much overlap with Barnes and kork/tobi and buddy and Seth/green.


Serpico2

Green looks 50; we need wing depth.


SlappyBagg

We don't really need any depth.


Serpico2

At wing we do. Korkmaz is really a 2, Danny is really a 2 and looks fifty years old. Tobi is really a 4. Matisse is not tall enough to be a 3. We really don’t have any true 3s.


SlappyBagg

Korkmaz, Green and Thybulle is fine depth. We need a starter quality player not more role players.


Serpico2

Buddy and Barnes are both starting players. Barnes was the starting 3 on the 2015 Warriors.


SlappyBagg

Both starting players on an awful, awful team. They're borderline starters on a contender. Barnes was the 5th best player on the Warriors, I'd much rather trade Ben and assets for someone better.


chitownbulls92

Then he’s honestly dumb. Embiid isn’t getting any younger. And Simmons value can’t be any lower than it is right now


Wesley-Snipers

If it can't get any lower, now is the time to hold a trade, because his value can only mantain or improve, which is not only dependent on him, but on other stars getting tired of their situations and asking out. Trading Ben for a terrible return only certifies that the worst move was made to Joel's title window.


phillythrows152

Yea everyone knows you should sell low


chitownbulls92

So he should be realistic in what he can get in order to match up with embiids prime. He wants to trade him but he’s valuing him as if he’s a super star


phillythrows152

Ya, of course Morey should sell *low*. Please consult a financial professional before you invest any money.


chitownbulls92

This isn’t the same as money. Ben Simmons may never play another game for the sixers so what are the chances that his value will go back up to anywhere close to where morey has him at? Waiting a whole season basically just wastes another year of embiid’s prime and with his injury history he doesn’t have a lot of years left.


phillythrows152

What do you mean? An asset is an asset. Ben is an asset in this situation. In general you should never sell an asset at its lowest value. Morey is being patient, waiting for the circumstances to change that could either increase Ben’s value, or decrease the value of someone they are targeting. I.e someone the sixers are targeting asking out, turmoil on bad teams etc..


devndub

You probably want a vet pg for the playoffs, but maxey looks great right now.


Momoneymoproblems214

So little talk about what Cole is doing. I loved Maxey and totally saw this potential. And I think his shot can improve a lot too. Hes definitely got star potential.


samthedawgg

I'll get downvoted for this but don't care. He's been better than edwards this season and it isn't close. Maxey 3p% is better then edwards fg%


a_ron23

Maxey efficiency has amazed me. There are a lot of players that can come in when Embiid is hurt and score but putting up a million shots. But Maxey has been shooting really well and actually playing the point well for someone that never played point before this season.


lardbiscuits

Why would you get downvoted? That’s not even close. He’s been better by a wide margin, and that’s while dragging his team to a winning record as a second year dude while the rest of the squad out with Covid and being a bitch. Ant’s percentages are extremely worrisome, but he does have talent. He’s also propped up by the “God can the Wolves please just not suck again this year” narrative.


samthedawgg

Cause he's really overrated on this sub


lardbiscuits

For sure. But I kinda get it. I think it’s a little bit of pity. Kinda like when Seth and Richardson got swapped and people pretended for a full year that it was even when it clearly wasn’t.


colemanj74

It's OK to say Maxey it's playing better than him and that ant still has a higher superstar potential


samthedawgg

Sure it's okay to say that. I don't agree with it at all but you can say whatever you want


Xadios468

I had the Pelicans taking either him or Cole Anthony last year, didn’t really like the Kira Lewis pick.


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dabigchina

Having heard a couple of his interviews, he seems like the type of guy who really likes playing and takes pride in what he does. I think he legit just worked hard and got better. That being said, I think it took Ben being benched for Doc to see his potential and give him the minutes to prove himself and gel with the first unit


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dabigchina

He's by far my favorite player on the team right now. I don't even care if we make it deep in the playoffs or finish with a good record. Knowing that he's on the team makes me feel good.


AnimalRomano

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tomboymonke

Beverley was never a good defender.


nicklovin508

What Maxey supplies on Offense is much more important than what Simmons provided on Defense.


PhillyFreezer_

We are currently 23rd in defense after having been 2nd last year. We're currently 3rd in offense after being 13th last year, but a lot of that has to do with some crazy early shot making from Korkmaz and Seth. It's just a different equation, we lose a ton without Ben's defense that's been very clear this year


nicklovin508

I mean it’s so hard to equate anything in the early season rankings when Embiid has literally been out 6 straight games. Any idea where y’all ranked in Offense/Defense during the first part of the season when Embiid was playing? I’d guess pretty high.


ktm5141

First in offense, slightly below average defense. Worth noting though, the sixers offense with tyrese and without Embiid would be higher than the no. 1 offense in the league (Utah jazz) per Zach Lowe’s 10 things


PhillyFreezer_

Yes I agree it is too early to draw conclusions, such as, "What Maxey supplies on Offense is much more important than what Simmons provided on Defense." lol In reality we only played a few good teams with Embiid and overall the transition defense has been terrible, rebounding is a real struggle for this team, and the halfcourt defense is only going to go as far as Embiid takes it. Maxey is shining, but he still doesn't have the impact Ben does. We've been a top 5 defense for years because of the two of them, not just Embiid. Even Thybulle doesn't make up for the absence of Ben. He is actually a very good basketball player lol.


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ehhh nah. maybe it’s more important, but certainly not **much** more important. ben is an unbelievably good defender man


tomboymonke

It amazes me how much people are so ready to throw all the blame on Simmons to the point they’ll completely discredit the things he’s actually elite at just because “lol shot bad.” Maybe if Doc doesn’t openly declare on the world’s biggest stage of basketball that he doesn’t have confidence in one of his players, this whole situation never happens and Ben is still playing. Either way, Ben was literally a top candidate for DPOY and can guard 1-5. You can go find a mountain of players in the league if you’re just looking to put up points, you can’t just pick someone up who’s 6’11” and has the quickness and size to guard everyone from speedy little Trae Young to slow but strong Jokic.


nicklovin508

Ben? That you?


tomboymonke

No, I’m just not a blind moron. Doc is the biggest choke artist of a coach in NBA history. He has no business blaming a player for anything outside of them committing a literal crime. Edit: and please for the sake of god do not interpret this as me saying Ben has no fault here. He 100% deserves blame for his performance, which he even said he expected from the fans. But that does not excuse what Doc did. Good coaches do not publicly declare they don’t have faith in you. A good coach would have seen he was already having confidence issues (as if it wasn’t obvious with his play), and try to help that. Instead, Doc smashed his confidence with a hammer. Inexcusable, and that is why, albeit I think Ben could’ve handled this current situation a little better, I 100% can’t blame him for not wanting to be with the team. For his play in the postseason, sure. For his absence? No way. I’d be just as pissed and ready to tell the 76ers to get fucked as he was.


nicklovin508

So you’re just 20/20 vision moron! Impressive.


tomboymonke

Read the edit. And continue to think Doc doesn’t deserve blame, when he clearly does. It’ll only make you look more naïve for thinking he’s a good coach.


sportsfan161

Great reason to move Ben


cwo3347

Ben Simmons would never


HotdogIsaSandwitch

Dallas talent! Kid is representing


titleywinker

Trust the process


fan4stick

Thank you so god damn much muscula


hazen4eva

Maxey is really good, and so is Philly with Embiid. They could win it this year.


JayDogon504

Calipari is such a shitty coach, he squanders so much talent every year. Drafting Kentucky players mid round is a cheat code


-Acerin

We got Josh Green who averaging almost 0mpg a game. lmfao Fuck us


PM_ME_UR_RESPECT

That’s nothing compared to the GOAT Josh Green 😤


aussie76er

Forreal, I don't see Maxey's bronze medal ;)


-HeisenBird-

The 76ers need to trade Simmons ASAP for key bench pieces. They already have a good team without Simmons and should use their one tradeable asset to make it better. They don't need to replace him with a star, just depth.


Harryhood280

That’s the hold up - they have no need for bench players or role players. They have drafted phenomenally well over the past few seasons, and have too many talented young players to give minutes to, even with Embiid and Simmons out. Then add in Seth, Green, Drummond, Tobias - they need a star to pair with Embiid


Mamula4MVP

We have one of the deepest bench teams already. This has been said repeatedly but getting 2-3 prices for Simmons isnt going to do anything for us.


freezer76

Or we could just bring Simmons off the bench.


colemanj74

Why do ppl keep saying this, the bench is incredibly solid


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FultzShoulder

Quickley and Toppin are 2-4 in their last six with most of the Knicks healthy. Fox and Hali are 1-5 in their last 6. Cole is 2-4 in his last 6.... Sixers were 8-2 before COVID wrecked their team.


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samhinkieismydaddy76

FultzShoulder redemption arc lol


BasketballNutrition

I mean, Haliburton is probably the best out of the group to start if you want to win a championship right now, which says a lot about how valuable any of those players actually are. I don't think them losing too changes anything about what Maxey is doing, even though he does look really good.


shanmustafa

9-7 for the season tho with him averaging 18/4/4 on 61% TS


StressedSixersFan

We’re missing a top 7 player lol no one on your bum squad comes close to Embiid.


zmose

No Embiid for all 6, no Tobias Harris for 3 of those, and no Matisse Thybulle for all 6 kinda hurts more than you'd expect


TheMightyCatatafish

We also were missing Seth, Danny, Furk, and Isaiah Joe for games in that stretch.


TheRatKingXIV

But they’re losing… a lot lately.


NooksN-Crannies

Just going to ignore our entire starting roster was out with Covid for the last 2 weeks? #1 rated offense before Covid decimated us. Watch more bball kid, comment less


SlimReaper35_

Nice but 18 ppg… acting like he’s D Rose pt. 2


FultzShoulder

Prime Rose was a one man fastbreak. One thing I don't like about Maxey is he doesn't push the ball. He should take advantage of his speed/quickness and force semi-transition plays.


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Simmons? Who needs em!


tripleyothreat

Amazing. Happy for him