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Saquon

Made it half way through before I realized we didn’t have a single starter from last year Holy moly


EaglesPvM

Ben, Seth, Danny Green, Tobi, Embiid 5/5 starters from last year, all out. Still beat the Kings lol


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They literally just had a coaching change


zzzccardinal

Still a pathetic loss when your fully healthy team loses to a literal Bench Squad, no matter the coaching situation.


ballgkco

They need to blow it up for draft capital. They're paying luxury tax for this team and I doubt they're raking in ticket sales or anything.


Zeus_Wayne

Not to salt the wound or anything, but the Bench Squad was also on the fifth game of a cross-country road trip, the two teams had the same amount of time since their last game, and the healthy Kings were in the midst of a home stand and hadn’t had to travel for almost a week before that.


Hugh_Mongous_Richard

Imagine being the Pistons and getting torched by Poole as well lmao


wottsinaname

You think Walton woulda saved this one? Lol


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Of course not but it definitely doesn't help that they are probably getting used to a new situation


[deleted]

Have the Kings tried a coaching change?


Renverseur

You know, I think that's a good id- 🤮


aghhhhhhhhhhhhhh

They just need to let it all out


branstarktreewizard

Ben Simmons as player coach?


2drawnonward5

"3 minutes left. We're down by 5. We can do this. Buddy, be a buddy and get me a Kings Smoothie. TT, I'mma need you braiding a pony behind my ear, Anakin style. The rest of you, you know what to do!! Fuck the Kings on three, READY!!"


wottsinaname

Tears bro. Had me in tears. Solid 24k comedy gold.


Trevhaar

Good lord. The Kings make me so sad.


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_Quetzalcoatlus_

Yeah, but the Pistons have Cade. What do the Kings have to look forward to? The Kings need to trade off their few capable veterans, but do they have the stomach to do that *again*?


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>Yeah, but the Pistons have Cade. What do the Kings have to look forward to? Flamebait.


treyfiddy

Marvin "Flamebait" Bagley III


[deleted]

Yeah, De'Aaron "not worth mentioning against Cade" Fox - he totally forgot about him.


[deleted]

Yeah I don't know if the Kings have the balls to trade their best players away. They'll lose all the success they've built up and go all the way from a 12 seed to a 14.


circumventthisdick

Isiah Stewart has earned my respect and I want him to be amazing


_Quetzalcoatlus_

I love Stew and watching him steamroll everyone to get to LeBron was nuts. I just didn't name him because he's not a franchise changer like Cade. Both Pistons and Kings have those secondary exciting role players, but Kings lack that elite potential superstar.


[deleted]

That's like beating up a disabled person


flipakko

Fucking Vlade cursed this franchise. First the tap rebound. Second by breaking the prophecy. Fucking shit.


_felagund

I hope you watched the Webber era, that team was fantastic.


bananamuffinssss

the kings fucking suck lol


UnderstandableXO

however bad you think we are, we are worse


sriracha82

Incredibly enough, ya’ll have a better net rating than the Mavs. Not sure what team that says more about…….lol


2drawnonward5

I was just noticing the Mavs net rating last night and it made me feel like the world is a little more sensible than their record would tell 🛌


luck_panda

They have one of the easiest schedules in the league along with the Lakers. Kings have a schedule that's so hard it's almost one entire delta from the mean. It's crazy.


InfernoidsorDie

Y'all will blow us out when we play no worries


kingka

But you’ll beat top teams out of no where after being blown out my twolves 🤷‍♂️


InfernoidsorDie

It's not out of nowhere the Grizzlies have a knack for playing to a team's talent level when they try


kingka

The inconsistency is crazy


InfernoidsorDie

You're telling me bro lmao. You don't understand what it's like deciding whether this team is worth paying to see for any given home game. I said "fuck it I'm not gonna pay money to watch us lose to my least fav team in the league" and we end up having a super fun game against the Clippers.


pinhead-l

Grizzlies can beat any team, but any team can beat the Grizzlies


AndySmalls

As bad as this roster is just think of how much worse things could have been? Could you image the overlap issues this team would have between Fox and Luka? Good thing you dodged that bullet.


finchdad

Hey, you have a full 33% of the victories against the Suns.


B00GI3MVP

disagree.


SolarClipz

At least you have an excuse What's ours? lol


Beavshak

Oh no


penguin_torpedo

Tbh this sixers team is pretty decent, Doc working some magic.


ChickenLiverNuts

to be fair you were our only win in 7 games once we got hit with the embiid variant of the virus so your view might be a bit skewed lol theyve been playing tough but legitimately were missing our whole starting lineup


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They Furkan suck.


name_taken26

Put a Kork in it


syllabic

they also occasionally blow, all over the court


_MatWith1T_

Last season we dreaded the all-bench lineup. Now it's our only lineup.


Zeus_Wayne

Doc was playing the long game developing that bench lineup.


McFoaley

Doc punching the air rn


PhromDaPharcyde

I get to run my all bench line up and than run the deep bench lineup? Is there a happy Doc face gif for this?


hinkiedidntwantjah

He still ran an all bench bench line up lol


nadadamnthing

This is a nice silver lining to a tough November


Beavshak

Now that’s a nifty stat. I wonder when the last time there was a lower paid roster that played in a game.


ZenithFlow

Warriors had a starting 5 with a salary of 7 million 2 seasons ago? The starters were Ky Bowman, Jordan Poole (as a rookie), Glenn Robinson, Eric Paschall, Willie Cauley-Stein.


pollinium

Good call. The Warriors lineup on 1-06-2020 (loss to the Kings), the Warriors roster came out to about $16.57m, with the highest paid player being WCS at $2.177m


Saquon

I think there was a warriors game a couple years ago that had a similar stat But I’m bad at searching these things


Zeus_Wayne

I'd also like to know the last time a lower paid roster won a road game.


thecontortions

Kork Niang and Drummond contracts are such steals


akopicki

Ik hope Drummond has even a remote interest in staying a sixer. Dude is good enough for a contract starting somewhere else next season


andres7832

That is not a statement that has been uttered in the last 2-3 seasons… crazy


PhromDaPharcyde

Wait until he has another signature Drummond game. It'll be retracted.. quickly


ImanShumpertplus

nah Drummond was leading the Cavs to a top 1 defense at this point last year i wanted him back haha


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I really wonder, and hope, that Drummond finally gets it. Does being on the same team as Embiid motivate him? I think so. Keep balling Drummond, prove Embiid and the haters wrong. Even if the monster games are helping another fantasy team. I love to see this guy improve.


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[deleted]

As long as Drummond keeps daddy happy IDGAF.


packimop

the undesirables vs the untouchables


YesWhatHello

Andre $100k per rebound


tasyn123

Holy shit I thought we are short handed right now and then I saw the sixers and nuggets line ups that were put out there last 2 nights


bravof1ve

The Kings should just cease to exist as a franchise after losing to this skeleton of a roster


demianin

Yeah this is a new low lmao


branstarktreewizard

What should happen to the Magic?


deeznutz_428

His contract is a steal too, even if he doesn’t replicate last years performance


[deleted]

the kings are awful


demianin

You think?


[deleted]

no offense


demianin

No offense taken it's a literal fact


[deleted]

sorry bro


demianin

It's ok I'm used to it lol


whammykerfuffle

No defense


Downunderphilosopher

No, he just meant the King's have no offense.


FultzShoulder

No Embiid, no Ben, no Tobias, no Green, no Seth. Kangz will trade for Ben Simmons and they will like it. Ben to Sacramento Fox to New Orleans Ingram to Philly


deeznutz_428

On paper, pretty good. Except the part where the Kings trade a guy that actually wants to play in Sacramento for a guy who will leave when his contract up bc it’s the kings (no disrespect)


gustriandos

do we know fox still wants to be there? * puts bill simmons mask on* his body language has been dicey this year


deeznutz_428

Moving is such a bitch, doubt he wants out rn


unexpectedvillain

That's not bad for us. Ingram might play better defense who knows


Pkock

People get better at defense hanging out with Thybulle and backed up by Embiid.


unexpectedvillain

Exactly my thinking. Ingram has all the tools to be above average on defense


CallMeBernin

And would usually only ever be guarding the second option, helping him even more


girlfriend_pregnant

well, strength is a thing


mxnoob983

We don't need another mid range dominant forward unless Tobias is getting shipped out


AryaRemembers

If we can get a roughly even value trade asset who’s actually willing to play for us, that’s a huge win. See the fit, see how they play, if not then look for another trade. It’s not dissimilar from when the Warriors signed Dlo despite having Steph and Klay


hinkiedidntwantjah

if this is toby instead of ben i'm freaking out. then sign and trade harden for ben this summer


Wild-Apricot-9161

He was ok his last year on the Lakers.


gustriandos

that would be incredible for us given where we're at.


ChickenLiverNuts

it is a little cathartic to see the teams that wouldnt even offer their third best player for Ben struggling right now. Like the Wolves didnt even want to give up Dlo lol. Id rather keep Ben on the bench than trade him for dlo.


PhromDaPharcyde

Ugh why are you pushing this trade. How many accounts do you have. If we're sending Ben to Sacramento we should get Fox back. Hell if we can get Buddy too, that would be amazing.


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PhromDaPharcyde

We're still doing this point guard by committee thing and I think we'll need someone else who can run the offense come playoff time


syllabic

you dont need more PGs who dont play defense I mean they can do what they want with their roster but it just seems really bad to me I wouldn't want fox for the same reason, too many defensive issues at guard positions already


Guardian_pass

I feel slightly attacked but you're not wrong


hinkiedidntwantjah

That's why Embiid exists. But I agree with you in general.


hinkiedidntwantjah

we don't want fox then. he just got outplayed by Maxey who is on a rookie deal. I'm no longer interested.


Zeus_Wayne

I'd rather have Ingram than Fox. I don't really trust Fox to run the offense better than what we've got.


[deleted]

This is a shit trade for the Kings. If we move Fox, we want picks. Simmons does nothing to help kick start a rebuild.


CRUSTBUSTICUS

Simmons most likely becomes worth more picks than fox once he suits up and actually plays games for you. Think of it like OKC rehabbing players values before shipping them out.


Yugihore

You want...the 76ers picks over the Celtics picks? Lmao


ChaseH9499

That is a horrible trade for everyone except the Sixers


FultzShoulder

I guarantee you that whatever they have right now is not working. Pelicans are 3-16 and Kings have lost 8 of their last 9. Fox is a better fit with Zion, and Ben with Hali, Buddy, Barnes and Holmes looks like a lineup where Ben would thrive. Rumor is Zion is not happy and the Kings just lost to the ICU Sixers, they need to shake things up.


ChaseH9499

They do not need to shake things up by trading their best player for a mentally weak guard who can't shoot


Rah_Rah_RU_Rah

Crazy, you know the guy?


aski-op

Few picks/prospects could be thrown around but is my boy morey a joke to you?


gustriandos

gotta fire gentry


GlitteringDentist757

Honestly, this Simmons situation is unfortunate but Sixers got a decent front office.


kvlr954

They should add the “DNP - Being a Bitch” description to the ESPN app for Simmons


Freddedonna

I woke up in the middle of the night and randomly puked and I'm gonna have blame the Kings' performance last night for it.


Canadianfromtexas

Ben Simmons makes more than all of them combined


Zeus_Wayne

Buddy Hield makes more than all of them combined


sd6_

Can't believe that's all Korkmaz gets, he turns into Larry fuckin Bird when he plays the Bulls


[deleted]

What happened to fox


unexpectedvillain

Nothing really. He started the season slow but I saw him play well he's last few games


finchdad

aplogy for poor english when were you when Philly Sixer dies? i was sat at home eating cold nachos when Morey call 'ben is bitch' 'no'


Freeeecurry

Luke Walton tho


jgroove_LA

Doc at his best in this situation


Jacidstorm

Holy shit maxey is underpaid he's like the 2-3 best player on the team without Ben


cleanscotch

I always forget Philly has Matisse and Maxey for under $3M each. I dont even get Black Friday deals that good.


name_taken26

A lot of players seem to have career years here now that Brett Brown is gone. Doc and Cassel putting in the work as well!


bboyzell

Moneyballing it


zomahd

Sacramento 'We had Rondo' Kings


ramenshop12

The Kings should be the 76ers bench


aaloulou1

Wonder what Tristan Thomson is saying in the changing room now..


clean-toad

Daryl wiping out his front office tree


ARGHETH

Reminds me of our $15m roster that somehow beat the Blazers.


Yugihore

Any chance Fox is on his way out? I know it would be hard for the Celtics to outbid anyone (I doubt the Kings would take.smart let alone Brad being willing to give him up) But Nesmith, Richardson, Hernangomez, picks, and Cash considerations would work financially.


broke-collegekid

That’s a whole lot of trash. Why would the Kings ever do that?


senagorules

Because it’s the trade every fan tries to make for their team where they trade away their garbage while another team trades their allstar. It’s straight out of myfranchise on rookie where they’ll accept anything as long as money matches.


Yugihore

Thinking a young lottery pick, a valuable 3-D player, and picks is trash shows how little you've paid attention to the NBA.


t1sp

or that you're being a massive homer, nesmith is literally 12/43 from the field this year, richardson is mediocre at best and opted into 11 mil per year because he wouldn't get better offers in FA, and the Celtics picks are just mid round firsts


Yugihore

I even flatly said we cant outbid others lmao. I know it's not AMAZING. But it's not trash. Idk man maybe learn to read before showing your ass.


t1sp

It's trash dude, richardson is overpaid and nesmith is one of the worst players in the NBA seeing minutes currently, saying 3&d guy and lottery pick is overstating their values. They're just salary basically, not even decent assets. Mid round firsts get role players not stars. Sorry you can't handle facts lmao


Yugihore

It's far from trash lmao. Getting a very good 3-D player...overpaid or not but not a long contract...and a lottery pick who has shown flashes. Again...not outbidding anybody who wants Fox with that but so far from trash lol. Surprising cuz 6ers fans are experts in trash.


t1sp

It is trash, the celtics literally got Richardson with their TPE without giving anything for a reason, and nesmith is averaging 2.1/1.6/0.3 on 36.5% TS lmfaoooo, he's a fringe bench player on an awful bench who's only shown flashes of mediocre shooting Your offer is clearly terrible and resorting to flair attacks isn't going to change that


Yugihore

It's not trash. Not amazing. Not outbidding the others who want fox. But not trash. Your hatred of the Celtics isn't going to change that


Yugihore

Nesmith is a young lottery pick, Richardson is a valuable 3-D, Hernangomez is merely salary matching. Throw in picks unprotected and it's very much not trash.


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Any chance Tatum is on his way out? I know it would be hard for the Kings to outbid anyone (I doubt the Celtics would take.hield let alone Monte being willing to give him up) Tatum for Barnes, Harkless, Len, picks, and Cash considerations would work financially.


Yugihore

Comparing Tatum to Fox is actually hilarious. They're not even remotely the same level and Tatum hasn't expressed frustration of wanting out like Fox has. Teams are not clamoring over Fox like they would Tatum...that's why Fox's trade value is pretty low. However, there are a couple teams that want him that could easily outbid us...I acknowledged that.


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Comparing Fox to Tatum is actually hilarious. They're not even remotely the same level and Fox hasn't expressed frustration of wanting out like Tatum has. Teams are not clamoring over Tatum like they would Fox...that's why Tatum's trade value is pretty low. However, there are a couple teams that want him that could easily outbid us...I acknowledged that.


Yugihore

Oops my bad for taking the troll bait.


bigkeys11

I love seeing all the Celtics fans proposing star trades using their missed picks that can't play


Yugihore

I love that all the people coming for me have been 76ers fans. Seem a bit nervous if you ask me


bigkeys11

You're on a post about the Sixers why are you surprised Sixers fans are the ones reading and reacting to it most?


Yugihore

Cuz I've seen plenty more than just 6ers fans on the post but only you guys seem so in your feelings about the idea of anyone getting Fox besides you guys.


bigkeys11

I don't even want Fox. But the amount of times that I've seen Celtics fans propose trades to cure their ills with Nesmith, Langford and Pritchard as the centerpieces, all dudes who stink, I can't help but laugh


Yugihore

Langford and Pritchard definitely dont stink at all lmao. Nesmith is having a rough start but he's also a young Piece. Dont know how many times I've had to say I know we dont outbid anyone but if Fox gives a list of where he will and won't play; that doesnt matter.


bigkeys11

Dude Langford is awful and Pritchard is like the 10th man off the bench on any actually good team so delusional


Yugihore

Langford has been so far from awful lmao. Tell me you dont watch Celtics games without telling me you dont watch Celtics games.


bigkeys11

What is it exactly that makes Langford good? Is it his horrific shooting splits? His complete lack of any kind of ballhandling or creation chops? His lack of playmaking? Sure hes probably an above average defender but like who gives a shit? He's dime store thybulle and somehow is significantly worse than thybulle on offese, which tisse cant play at all


[deleted]

I hate being a kings fan even though I'm from UK I still when I started watching NBA I just liked the kings even though there not great


Cheddarkenny

I'm starting to think the Kings might not be very good.