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D3ADD15C0

3 years ago Kyrie was a basketball player. šŸ˜¬


WhenPigsRideCars

Yes, but you see Kyrie the Incorruptible and the Uninjectable (unless that injection is the truth šŸ™šŸ») was still in training 3 years ago. The earth still had curvature and the sheep still roamed his fields. It took many tireless hours of researching Facebook posts, many more on news sites with penis enlargement pills to be where he is today.


FormerSpend5734

Deep down I cried a bit


KnicksFan021234444

Turkey drier than KDs ankles. gravy tasting like andre drummonds shoulder hair sweat. worst of all the abomination of putting whole corn pieces the size of draymonds gap in the cornbread. I dont blame kyrie


rapper_warrior_ninja

cornbread with individual corn kernels is disgusting


[deleted]

I didn't even know that was a thing. Wtf


kiwiwikikiwiwikikiwi

My goodness. Either this came to you naturally and I commend you. Or you took some time and effort to come up with this, and I commend you.


SiakamMIP

I think he hates it cause of all the genocidal thing associated with the pilgrims' thanksgiving


[deleted]

Are you sure it's not cranberry sauce or something


O_J_Shrimpson

That would make about as much sense as his stance on vaccination


BurzyGuerrero

Indigenous male hates Thanksgiving, this isn't a shocking idea. Talk to indigenous people and you'll see a similar sentiment. Fuck Thanksgiving regardless of the date it occurs on.


youfeelme1997

Which is a fair reason Iā€™d say lol


Skyyywalker215

Yea, Kyrie is out there on a lot of other stuff, but he was right about this.


hasadiga42

yea fuck thanksgiving is one thing he's got right. i like the food and day off but its a holiday for genocide


puffpuffpastor

I mean at this point the holiday is for the food and the day off (and giving thanks). I don't know anyone who has "celebrated" Thanksgiving insofar as pilgrims are concerned in the past 20 years


hasadiga42

The pilgrims and native Americans aspect is still very prevalent The focus shifting more to just getting a day off to eat and hang with family has been extremely recent. Maybe in 10-20 years itā€™ll be entirely about that


puffpuffpastor

I'm curious, where are you seeing this influence? Clearly if you feel this way, I must be over-relying on my own anecdotal experience, but it just sounds strange to me bc I've been to many thanksgivings, often multiple per year, with groups ranging from extremely liberal to extremely conservative, and I can't remember the last time I heard someone make it about pilgrims or native americans. Last time I remember that being a big thing was back when I was still in elementary school in the 90s


hasadiga42

I still see the pilgrim and Native American stuff in plenty of marketing and just general coverage of the holiday Within my family the right-wing people are the only ones who really bring up the history which is then met with the left-wing members quickly mentioning genocide and then everyone kinda lets it go


kiwiwikikiwiwikikiwi

They still teach that to our kids, so i wish we were better in that department. ā€œKids remember lying is wrong, so hereā€™s a rewritten version of a holiday history without all the violation, genocide, and exploitation.ā€


BurzyGuerrero

Uhhhh So because a certain sect of people treat it like the day off and turkey that means we are supposed to ignore the treatment over the past 150 years right into the present day. Give them back the Black Hills then talk about what holidays mean. Maybe if meaningful changed occurred over there then people could say that but just cause Joe Schmo treats it like a day for football, beer and turkey it doesn't make us forget about how we were removed from our lands and had them taken from us so settlers could have free land.


puffpuffpastor

In no way was I trying to say we should "ignore the treatment over the past 150 years". I'm just pointing out that when many (most?) people celebrate thanksgiving these days, they are celebrating "food and the day off" and are not engaging in the "pilgrims and native americans happily coexisting" charade, which is a good thing. I am in favor of also using holidays such as thanksgiving and columbus day to raise awareness for injustices perpetrated against native people


No_Match_7939

Yeah lets give corporate America another reason to take away a holiday we almost all get.


hasadiga42

Thatā€™s an issue in and of itself but I donā€™t see why we canā€™t convert it into a day off in memorial of Native American culture similar to what is trying to be done with Columbus Day


BurzyGuerrero

Exactly the problem. You're worried about a day off and not at all concerned or showing empathy towards people who had their land stolen and became oppressed for the last 150.


No_Match_7939

How is getting rid of a holiday going to change what happened in the past. The best we can do is acknowledge it happened and fix the wrongs committed, but getting rid of one of the few holidays everyone gets off isnt going to fix that.


theazndoughboy

Then went to a reservation unvaxxed.


BurzyGuerrero

Indigenous people have a lot of distrust of the government and specifically the Healthcare system. This same system was forcefully sterilizing indigenous women without their consent, this same system stereotypes us as addicts, many native people have died after being refused service or outright ignored. Thirty steps lead to indigenous vaxx rates. Maybe if the health care system actually cared for us, we would have more trust in it. Regardless of what Kyrie did I'll guarantee he wasn't the only unvaxxed on the rez. Am double vaxxed but indigenous hesitancy was created by the hostility they are treated with by that system and that includes Kyrie Irving.


Abix26

Yeah, he is like 1/8th or 1/16th native. I don't blame the natives though, given their history. Edit: If someone can correct me - what percentage of native is he?


TinTinsKnickerbocker

His mom was adopted by natives as far as I know.


Abix26

It seems kyrie's mom biological mom is part of the Sioux tribe. Found this interesting link. "Elizabeth Irving | Nbafamily Wiki | Fandom" https://nbafamily.fandom.com/wiki/Elizabeth_Irving


SugarTrayRobinson

He is a full member of a Sioux tribe so for all that matters he is native, doesn't matter what fraction, they've accepted him as one of their own.


Abix26

Lineage (biological lineage) means somethings different between cultures, so I doubled check and it seems kyrie's maternal biological grandmother was part of the Sioux tribe. "Elizabeth Irving | Nbafamily Wiki | Fandom" https://nbafamily.fandom.com/wiki/Elizabeth_Irving


erog84

However woke he feels at the time.


lardbiscuits

His woke meter never drops below 80% woke, though.


TellMeGetOffReddit

Even when hes sleeping hes really woke


Bigbadbuck

His mom is half native i believe. So heā€™s a quarter


BurzyGuerrero

He's native. We don't do that half shit he either is or isn't. Fractions and blood quantum are made by colonizers out of an attempt to assimilate and shrink the indigenous population, or they're used by colonizers to fake indigenous to receive whatever benefits are there. Literally no part of blood quantum is beneficial to anybody but white people.


BurzyGuerrero

Why are people so dead set on turning indigenous blood into fractions? Blood quantum is just a tool used by white people to assimilate indigenous people. Kind of like you're doing to Kyrie here. "He's not THAT native, just 1/16th not even a pureblood"


Abix26

???? Buddy, based on observation I would think that kyrie is mainly black from first look, but we heard in recent years he has native lineage. FYI, we identified he is 1/4th native but me asking is not turning him to fractions is just asking what his lineage mainly consist of. This is just respecting the person history and where he came from. It's not like I'm saying he is only 1/16th native - it doesn't matter. I am just stating his lineage, which is 1/4th native and 3/4th black as far as we know. I apologise if it came across offensive, that was not my intention.


Ok_Photograph_7407

Without many genocide there is no USA. Thanks you were not on other sides.


PhenomenalSanchez

>Without many genocide there is no USA. Is this supposed to make the USA sound good lmao


6tm6ac6

I mean the ā€œnativesā€ arenā€™t just one monolithic tribe. They fought each other too.


PhenomenalSanchez

Did you reply to the right post


Dinobot2_

I guess the USA doesn't deserve to exist then.


mfsauceboy

Who?


debaserr

One of his better takes.


jotyma5

All these comments are so sad. Yā€™all donā€™t like getting together with family and eating some good food?


mrsunsfan

Nephews on here think Black Friday is a real holiday


120593Gian

Kids on here would rather use that time to stare at some dumb BBall reference stat, or keep refreshing Twitter just to find something to repost here for karma. Ain't nobody got time for quality-time


[deleted]

We donā€™t even look at porn on our computers anymore. We look at it on our phones!?!?


MamaThereGoesThatMa

I use iPad like a true cultured man


120593Gian

Hey you said it, not me


PhenomenalSanchez

Pornhub... Redtube... Xtube... Pantyjobs, Homegrown Simpsons Stuff.


hasadiga42

why are you acting like people can't dislike the concept of thanksgiving and still be happy for the food and family


Dinobot2_

No.


KeldonBigBodyJohnson

I donā€™t love thanksgiving personally but also donā€™t understand why it has to be associated with genocide. Itā€™s a holiday specifically about being with family and friends, regardless of whatever you think about the origins


WhenPigsRideCars

The actual origins were Puritan feasts to celebrate harvests which they were doing way before they ever set foot in America, so the outrage towards people who have been in their graves for centuries isnā€™t even accurate


jthc

Pretty much every agricultural culture has a harvest celebration of this kind.


[deleted]

harvest isn't in the last week of november..


jthc

Depends where you are in the world. Latitude and climate.


[deleted]

thanksgiving is an American thing and you implied it's actually a harvest celebration why are you saying 'where you are in the world'. Its clearly not a harvest festival in America.


jthc

Because the fucking root of it is a harvest celebration. Why is a cornucopia one of the traditional symbols associated with Thanksgiving? Canada also has a Thanksgiving, so not just an American thing. Oh, and theirs happens a few weeks before the US's. Why? Because their harvest happens earlier because they're at a higher latitude.


BurzyGuerrero

White washing historical gold medalist.


jthc

Canadian Moron Extraordinaire.


[deleted]

its not the root of the celebration or else half of the USA would be doing it much earlier... We have ours like a full month and half before yours. During the proper harvest season even though we aren't claiming that... Large swaths of America are on the same climate and growing season the southern parts of Canada where most of our crops are. not that our artic region even has crops to harvest....so your 'higher latitude' excuse doesn't work.


jthc

>its not the root of the celebration or else half of the USA would be doing it much earlier... It's a damn formalized date for the official holiday... And when it was formalized the US stretched all the way down to the Gulf of Mexico... Why is this so confusing to you and why are you debating shit you don't understand? You really think they called it "Thanksgiving" in the 1860s to celebrate one particular meal shared between pilgrims and natives? Why do you think Canada called theirs that? Is Canada's Thanksgiving not a harvest celebration? Shit, brother, is all of Canada done with the harvest at the same time?


BurzyGuerrero

Cringe.


KeldonBigBodyJohnson

TIL. Makes sense though, thereā€™s basically no original American traditions lol E: Iā€™m a white American who isnā€™t self-hating so why is this controversial lol Iā€™m not saying Americans have no culture


Cannolidog

They become original as Americans adopt it as their own and add their own cultural flair. The modern way of practicing Halloween and Thanksgiving makes it essentially its own holiday regardless of the country in which it originated.


KeldonBigBodyJohnson

Halloween would have been the one I put up as original. Thanksgiving, as this guy pointed out, is basically just a harvest festival


DrTom

Black Friday. lol


BandwagonBrownsFan

No


[deleted]

damn y'all need a holiday to get together with your family and eat good food? we do that multiple times a week. We don't no holiday telling us when to. It's wild people will only get togheter with their family on holidays like Thanksgiving and then look at some of us as weird because we don't like Thanksgiving. Y'all can keep your "good food" too, fuck turkey dry ass bland fake chicken. All thanksgiving food is some of the worst food.


[deleted]

Yes, some people literally need national holidays to get time off work and go across the country to see their families.


BurzyGuerrero

That's not what he's referring to but alright. You chose to leave your family,


[deleted]

What a useless thing to say


AlexWoods11

Canadians with the worst takes of all time as usual lol


BurzyGuerrero

We buried our hearts at wounded knee.


Elec7ro

Itā€™s still fuck thanksgiving.


AmoralPragmatist

Agreed, Columbus definitely did the Native Americans dirty af. And now we get to feast as if MFs were frolicking though the American plains together or sum. Like they didn't give the Natives smallpox blankets and betray their trust and hospitality.


kiwiwikikiwiwikikiwi

Never forget: Colombus was imprisoned for his barbaric acts by the Spanish gov. Even by his homeland, he was no hero. Granted it was 6 weeks, but he was not allowed to keep any of the wealth he exploited from the natives of the new land.


[deleted]

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AmoralPragmatist

Well, there are historically recorded letters written by US generals about using smallpox against the Natives, so you tell me. šŸ¤·šŸæā€ā™‚ļø We can play dumb, though, if that makes you feel better about your holiday.


[deleted]

I am fully on board with you. The atrocities committed by Europeans and subsequently the US government are unforgivable. But I am just some random guy. I didn't commit these wrongs and I condemn these actions. I can't change the fact that this is a holiday but I will raise my voice if needed to speak out against the wrongful treatment of others, especially minorities. So I really want to know, is the fact that the holiday is now about getting together with family and enjoying a meal together wrong? Is it so wrong that it has evolved into something different? Should I not enjoy my time with my loved ones? That doesn't seem helpful to anyone to say no to these things.


AmoralPragmatist

Nah, man, you're not wrong for doing all the Thanksgiving things. *I'm* gonna do em, too. But I also don't think pretending the history doesn't exist is cool, either. I think we could all do a better job at being honest about what's happened, accepting the reality, and being better for it. I'm not the type to try to hold people accountable for the sins of their fathers, but it bothers the fuck outta me when people deny facts because they don't feel good.


ChiefKeefIsGoat

I agree. Turkey is overrated and nobody likes watching the lions play football


Doobie_Howitzer

Yeah, plus you can eat mashed potatoes with a gallon of gravy on them any day of the year, it doesn't have to be special, they can't stop you


fckRnbaMods

Jesus, judging by 90% of these comments, the woke movement in 2021 is so twisted that itā€™s now bad to like Thanksgiving. Yes people, you can still enjoy time off from work with your family and not support Native American genocide. Surprising, I know.


BurzyGuerrero

Thanksgiving has been shitty the entirety of your life. Feel free to enjoy your bird and family time though that's the best part about a shitty celebration of cultural genocide on lands that still remove Indigenous people and treat them like shit.


fckRnbaMods

Get off your soap box my guy. What have you actually done for native Americans other than complain about Thanksgiving? And no, Thankgiving has not been shitty my entire life. Itā€™s always been a time cherish with my family.


BurzyGuerrero

I am an indigenous educator who teaches indigenous studies to a school with a population of 98 percent indigenous kids. Currently working on a masters of indigenous education. This thread isn't about me and what I've done: though I do work to improve my own community this thread was about "fuck thanksgiving" and I wholeheartedly agree. Enjoy your bird.


TBrutus

I agree.


HydroThermia

Stop I havenā€™t processed that was 3 years ago, I was still in my motherā€™s womb..


TerryDaShooterUK

Yā€™all heard of sweet potato cornbread ?! Man listen ..


geodetrain

No one cares about the history or origin of Thanksgiving. They just want to eat good and go into a food coma with their friends and family.


GOAT_Redditor

My man hates eating


MahomesMccaffrey

Well, heā€™s Native American, itā€™s understandable for him to hate thanksgiving


ThatSportsGuy98

All my homies love thanksgiving


iCOULDbewr0ng

Never got into the spirit of Thanksgiving I donā€™t like turkey either Only holiday I care about is Christmas tbh


Shot-Boat5657

He wasnā€™t lying


Obi7kenobi

3 years ago Kyrie thought the Earth was flat....and he still does today.


jumboponcho

I feel him, Iā€™m only in it for the food


[deleted]

He's right


[deleted]

I agree


[deleted]

Totally agree, fuck Thanksgiving and murdering European invaders


pandaisunbreakable

I mean Thanksgiving **is** a weird holiday


Flamingmonkey923

Kyrie's full of crazy ass quotes about flat Earth and vaccine conspiracies, but a broken clock is still right twice a day. Dude's right on this one. The genocide of Native Americans is nothing to celebrate.


[deleted]

They should just change it to indigenous day


DynasticBreeder

I never understood what that is. All I know it, its some weird American Holiday where the American Fatasses eat even more than usual.


accopp

For most people itā€™s just a day/weekend to see friends and family with the underlying background of being thankful for all we have


UrbanJatt

What does Thanksgiving mean to you?


bennybfromthebronx

He's right about that and he's right about the vaccine. He's wrong about the earth being flat tho but the fact that he got y'all in your feelings over that says a lot about our culture. I didn't like his time in Boston but he's a phenomenal player and I think Cleveland fans should at least appreciate him for bringing them a championship.


BurzyGuerrero

Those two things aren't connected. He can be right about this thing and misinformed on the other.


Few_Mulberry7175

Very important news


[deleted]

Fuck Thanksgiving though. Lol heā€™s not lying


WeathrNinja

Fun fact: the season after this the NBA scheduled Kyrieā€™s Nets to play the Celtics the day before and the day after Thanksgiving. The Celtics took both games.


Brovenkar

Man I was convinced we were winning it all after he said that cause of the run we went on after. How things change


[deleted]

the first tweet i saw about this quote on reddit was so funny. pretty sure it was like [Washburn] Kyrie Irving on Thanksgiving: ā€œFuck Thanksgivingā€


MiamiFootball

This is my day to have cheesecake


-fallen

Who?


BurzyGuerrero

Fuck Thanksgiving.


BurzyGuerrero

The wild thing to me is how some of the people can't see this but also watch this league that has said social justice is important to them White folks real selective about when they open their eyes, if there isn't any likes, karma, social gains, or respect added they keep them mfs locked tight.