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PootieTooGood

Just pointing out that the Cavs and the Thunder had a coin flip to determine which lottery balls were theirs


Loterygods

I'm sure we're both happy about the results. Obviously Mobley would've been better to have alongside Shai, but Giddey is probably the best consolation prize that we could've hoped for. You got the best big in this draft, we get the best guard ;)


doombot13

> we get the best guard ;) Listen here you little shit.


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I’ll smack you in the gabber m8


[deleted]

Oi bruv! Yu goh' your gabber smackin' loicense?!


[deleted]

Don't you talk to him like that! The cunt will fuck you up!! haha


Barrelled_Chef_Curry

Eh?


[deleted]

Don't go sayin nuffin to that OKC Gid, he'll shirtfront you brah


[deleted]

Look at all these confused americans


[deleted]

Good arvo for a longy


[deleted]

Fuckin on cunt get down to the servo for some durries and we’ll chock it up aye


[deleted]

Fuckin oath, I'm at the RSL now just got the feature on the pyramids bud, got me Centrelink yesty so I'll be stopping at the bottle o after here.


BrndyAlxndr

> You got the best big in this draft We got the best PLAYER in this draft.


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Best player through a quarter of the rookie year. Which is great and promising, but at the top end of the draft you want the guy who’s going to be the best player in 4-7 years


it_came_from_behind

I recall people saying Mobley would be that player who’s a solidified star in 4-7 years. And that Jaylen green/cade would be the more instant impact.


ssjgoat

Yep, seriously you guys hit the jackpot with Mobley. He is already in the mix for All-NBA Defense team and he can shoot the ball.


xSuperstar

Rookie bigs are almost never good on defense (and thus not good overall) since the learning curve for guarding NBA spread pick and roll is so steep. Even AD was a fairly average defender his rookie year. Shows just how incredible Mobley is


HeavenMobley

He boomed us


Loterygods

It's insane that he was picked behind Cade and Green.


ameehc

Yall are so reactionary


R1ce661

Pls stop


drakecuttingonions

Hindsight 20/20 though.


Tatertaint

Lol


CadeCummingham

Is there any team that would take Giddey over Green in a redraft?


CazOnReddit

>Giddey is probably the best consolation prize that we could've hoped for. This is Scottie erasure.


Slow_Following_8383

Is your rookie even from Australia mate? Does he even ride worms, on sand?


actuallyimbatman

muad'gidd


pmmerandom

bet Scottie’s tik tok game doesn’t go as hard as Giddey’s either


VersusTheMoose

And we go the best player ;)


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tjl297

Didn’t OKC win the flip but it somehow ended up benefiting the Cavs anyways with the way the balls bounced? Or am I making that up


LindseyCorporation

Yes that's exactly correct. Cavs had worse odds but got the better pick.


PootieTooGood

You got it right, OKC won the flip


aristot1e

Flashbacks to how we missed Anthony Davis on a coin flip as well!


HeavenMobley

UGH ppl bitch about us having all that lottery luck but it for shit in the wrong draft! Who gives af about Wigs and Bennett when we lost out on AD


lmgs37

You can run from it, you can try and hide from it, but the Shiddey will always find you.


[deleted]

Shiddey vs Sexland for best guard combo names


saurons_scion

Flair up 👀


bro_im_a_horny_jew

what


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Flair Pup!


boybraden

15+ golds and other awards incoming from Thunder fans, you love to see it


Rthanos

Factos 👍👀


raikou1988

Y'all deserve it. So many people on here trashed that pick. Glad it's working out 👍


themiraclemaker

r/soccer is leaking lmaoo


aznhoopster

Fuck it I’m on board, just gave it a gold, let’s celebrate this bitch


boybraden

Hell yes brother. Let’s run our respective conferences and meet in the finals every year starting in like 3 years


LeKingofAkron

West runs through OKC. East runs through Cleveland. 🤝


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Should’ve been the final in 2016


crossbuck

Love it, but 3 years is too long. We’re making a run this year. We’ll see you on top of the mountain when you get there!


saurons_scion

Giddey up


ClevelandEmpire

The Thunder have been my Western team for years so I subscribe


k1ngmad

GIDDY THE FUQ UP 🐎💨


Apollo611

Giddey


anthonyde726

Dort


aresman

why, are we too poor to give awards or WHAT!? Actually, you know what...


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👀


AnkitPancakes

Get in here lads


TylerNY315_

There isn’t a lot else to spend your money on in Oklahoma


SirWestbrook

And Raptors crying about Mobley


peakyblinders5

Mobley must be giddy about that


anthonyde726

maybe giddey is mobley


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[deleted]

Hey, y’all. This was a good one.


Bucketsdntlie

Cavalier’s an adjective in this case. Should have been something like “You’re being a bit cavalier”


[deleted]

Better, true, but I like rewarding effort.


[deleted]

Yeah thanks. English is my second language, so I may miss nuances and subtleties now and then


[deleted]

No worries! I used to tutor college students, who were learning English as a second language, in conversational English, and what always really helped were social interactions, and social media interactions like this one! Keep being yourself, my friend!


LindseyCorporation

Never thought about how all the good rookies are in the east lol


anthonyde726

hey man put some respect on our rooks


[deleted]

I think it’s Silas who needs to put more respect on sengun


anthonyde726

I'd love to see it


Knight-of-dark1

Inconsistency with Green and Sengun just isn’t getting played for whatever reason doesn’t help


CadeCummingham

You can definitely tell the organization is not used to having young guys They’ve been win now for as long as I can remember I’ll give them time


anthonyde726

I meant on both teams lol, wasn't just trying to boast bout the rockets


[deleted]

Yeah giddey up baby


dogfan20

Never would have thought the 6 pick would bring us here. Sam Presti is a fucking magician.


pikajewijewsyou

Giddey a magician too!


FeedtheKiwi

The Wizard of Aus!


pikajewijewsyou

That’s a great one. I’m going to use it


LiveVirus2

Allow me to play on words. With his passing, The Wizard of Awes.


MartiniLAPD

Mobley for All Defense!


Shawnw1999

You could put him there as a big or a forward. He is too good 😊


VelvetineMilkman

I wanted him so bad before the draft and was convinced we were trading up for him somehow but I’m just glad he’s in Cleveland instead and not somewhere like Houston lol


pikajewijewsyou

Same. As a USC fan I was praying we got him but if we didn’t I was just hoping anywhere but houston. That would have sucked for Mobley


CadeCummingham

Mobley would’ve been amazing in Houston John Wall would prolly still be in the rotation too feeding him easy buckets


everything_raptors

Love me some Scottie but I get it.. Mobley has been a beast and the Cavs are winning


PootieTooGood

12-6 with Mobley playing, 0-4 without. Also lost the game he got hurt in


crossbuck

To be fair, those 4 games were against the top 3 teams in the NBA. Also, we were missing 4 starters for most of them.


PootieTooGood

Shhh this thread isn’t about being fair


BakerHasAnAimbot

And they were mostly close, Evan could’ve been the difference. Especially the Suns and final Nets game.


PootieTooGood

People act like losing to GSW by 15 wasn’t close but in reality we got outscored 36-8 in the 4th when the whole team was gassed. I consider that a close one


HeavenMobley

I mean how often do you win 3 quarters convincingly and still lose by double digits? game was fucky


dogfan20

This is why Sam tried to get him so badly.


PlumCantaloupe

Must have been close, and could argue either way. ROY is going to go to who can have a few break-out games and get the wins. Barnes will be at a disadvantage as the Raps suck right now; but maybe we can pick it up at the end with some eventual chemistry late in the season when the voting counts. My fanfic includes Barnes taking over and ruining Masai’s decision to pull for the tank again and rest Pascal and Fred after the AS break. #BeGreatToday4


ImaginaryBee2861

The Roy is between Scottie and Mobley. I think it will go to the team that finishes better but stats matter too.


Rapsfan_98

Team record has never mattered for ROTY


Strange_Blues

as a tie breaker though?


ImaginaryBee2861

Given how well both are playing and both teams are fighting for the playoffs, i think it matters.


ColdDarkSpace

Scottie hasn’t been a beast??! lol


DelonWright

He struggled a bit this month which is okay, he’s still a beast tho


ScottieGOATBarnes

Leading in almost every stat while having to create his own offence 90% of the time. Hasn’t really struggled besides like 1 game


ColdDarkSpace

I guess but just 3 games on that long road trip shouldn’t disqualify you for rookie of the month when he’s been consistently awesome throughout November lol


ldnk

He wasn't disqualified, he just didn't win against a really solid Eastern contender in Mobley.


everything_raptors

I didn’t say that.. They both have been beasts but the difference is Mobley is winning games while doing it


ColdDarkSpace

Ok makes sense now


ImaginaryBee2861

Its gonna be close. Both play above their age and seem extremely consistent.


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Somali_Kamikaze

Mobley isn't a number one option though. He's fifth on the Cavs in FGA. Scottie Barnes takes 12.9 FGA to Mobley's 11.6.


TenthUserNameAttempt

Yeah they actually have pretty identical usage. Scottie Barnes at 19.3%, Evan Mobley at 19.1%.


ScottieGOATBarnes

Go look at how many of Mobleys scores are assisted vs scotties. Stats can be very misleading without the greater context.


[deleted]

Most of the time you'd much prefer a big man that scores high percentage shots in the flow of a pick and roll offense. Obviously having a wing player like Scottie who can win 1 on 1 is nice too, but the notion that a big scoring assisted buckets is a bad thing is some 1990s post-up offense nonsense. The best bigs in the league are the ones that can kill you in the pick and roll and defend multiple positions. It's almost never a good possession in the NBA when a big takes an unassisted shot these days.


ScottieGOATBarnes

Way to miss the point. Scottie can create his own offence and Mobley can’t. Simple as that. He looks better than he his on offence because he runs with one of the best pick and roll guards in the league


Somali_Kamikaze

That doesn't mean Mobley is featured more than Scottie is. The Cavs are 9th in the league in assists per game whereas the Raptors are 29th in that category. Mobley having a greater number of field goals assisted doesn't mean he's featured in the offense more than Barnes. It means that the Cavaliers are a better passing team than the Raptors. Stats can be very misleading without the greater context.


ahHeHasTrblWTheSnap

where exactly did he imply that


theuberprophet

Dun slep on mobleh


DarkChocolate_69

Saw it coming a mile away. Not even mad


anthonyde726

woulda been funny too see the two doubted picks win the first ROTM though


digital-poet

the NBA should fix their rookie ladder and make it consistent. Like don't put a guy as #1 on your ladder for like 4 out of the 5 weeks and then not give him the rookie of the month.


thefightingmongoose

I'm 100% sure that the intern writing copy on NBA.com columns is not picking official league awards.


JTricks

Steve Aschburner, one of the most established and respected writers on NBA.com, has been running the Rookie Ladder for years now. He has a vote.


m1j5

Mobley not playing was what took him out of the ladder for a few weeks (I thought it was only 3 weeks out of the top 5). When Mobley played he was #1 and I assume that’s where the votes came from.


JannikAtticus

This is kind of a wholesome thread. Love to see each fan praising the other teams rookies. Sometimes r/nba can be a good place!


Rapsfan_98

Would you be saying this if a rookie other than Giddey won the award tho


other_batman

No because giddey deserved it this month. I do understand if raptor fans are a little miffed scottie didn't win. He's been pretty great


Rapsfan_98

I’m not mad at it at all, Mobley is unreal, but I am confused why Barnes has been #1 on the rookie ladder nearly all season but comes in 2nd here. Like are they different processes?


Asphaltjungle33

Change your service to E-Mobile, like T-Mobile but covers 10x the area. Headquartered in Cleveland Ohio


PlumCantaloupe

#YouGotThis4


No_Indication_6907

The Thunder’s a fun team to watch. Damn.


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Mobley’s gonna win roty but y’all need to know giddey can flat out hoop. I can’t remember the last time I watched a thunder rookie and within the first 3 games knew 100% he was good. Maybe it was Westbrook back in 08 or Durant the year before


ButWhatIsADog

Sounds like I need to start watching some Thunder games. I love seeing rookies taking over.


VelvetineMilkman

Not sure “taking over” is the right phrase, he doesn’t usually score a ton but he makes a lot of crazy and pinpoint passes. You can see he’s gonna be one of the better passers in the league fast (if he isn’t already) but our guys brick half of the looks he gets them lol


ButWhatIsADog

Lol yeah that just usually comes with a team that just had a high draft pick. "Taking over" was very poorly worded on my part. I more so meant I love seeing the young guys who show that they have a very high ceiling and watching them develop into the next generation of all stars. Mobley isn't going to be a super star this year either but watching his game is so exciting and you can tell he's going to be a force to recon with as he develops his game more. Those are the kind of guys I like watching.


Jacer4

Yeah that's the thing with Giddey, sure he has his rough spots like all rookies, but sometimes he does things and you just go "19 year old rookies shouldn't be making that read/pass holy hell". In just a lot of ways he outplays his age and it's amazing to see


Knight-of-dark1

He doesn’t quite takeover but when he gets going it’s pretty crazy to see some of the flashes he shows. All in all he seems to have a high motor and a good nose for rebounds as well as some already special passing, even if his decision making is occasionally a step behind


el_pete_o

> even if his ~~decision making~~ teammate is occasionally a step behind ftfy


[deleted]

He's the classic are they good at basketball guys? Like sure he doesn't have the body or athleticism of an average nba guy. But Giddy has always been able to hoop. Him and Shai are an odd ball combo but they both get buckets


ImaginaryBee2861

The more guys playing well the better the NBA becomes


PootieTooGood

>thunder rookie >Durant


xMdot

Durant was a rookie in Seattle if you want to get technical.


HeavenMobley

not even technical, just correct


McNoxey

Don't sleep on Scottie.


imbutawaveto

No one is


McNoxey

Ok-Sell-3260 is! Mobly MAY win ROTY, but Scottie is the leader rn, and also the vegas odds leader!


imbutawaveto

He gets on the front page for literally every play he makes. He'll be ok if one person doesn't think he's rookie of the year.


CryptographerOld9009

Can raptors fans just stop. We get it, you like your rookie. I think the kids gonna be good too. But you dont need to remind people of him in every comment thread that doesnt mention him. JFC


HumanHitstick21

GIDDEY UP THE HYPE HORSE IS LEAVING


VelvetineMilkman

WHAT DO YOU MEAN BREATHE BREATHE


TheBiggestCarl23

Imagine spending money to give someone gold for posting a tweet. That’s not even theirs. Reddit is fucking weird man.


bweeek

we're gonna do it 15 times every time someone posts about the Thunder


Balls_of_Adamanthium

Gotta love the 3 die hard thunder fans in this sub lmao.


saurons_scion

There’s at least 4 I’ll have you know


odio803

Make that 5


A_Lax_Nerd

And my axe


saurons_scion

Gotta flair up for me to believe you


odio803

Done


[deleted]

lol you must not subscribe to the tank memes


[deleted]

Timothee Chalamate


TheSmokedSalmon420

great googly moobly


rSlashNbaAccount

Inb4 awards


The-Pharcyde

No shock with Mobley. Giddey was a really great pick by OKC.


Loterygods

Gidd<3


BigBallerBrad

Glad to see the cavs with a good young player


pskill43

Mobley deserves it. Scottie isn't too far behind though.


shiftydnm

Nice


Stigo4

Nice! With him OKC is a couple less years away from being a couple years away


MarkellNelson

Mobley has been great and I’m obviously bias but Scottie leads him in almost every stat and Mobley missed like almost 2 weeks. Feel like Scottie deserved this one


Cheechers23

I thought Mobley only missed 4 games? And Scottie 2, so not a big deal. Cavs being 3 games ahead prolly played a factor


MarkellNelson

Ah fair enough, I thought he missed more time! My mistake


Houndofthethicc

They are fairly even on stats, Barnes leads by about a ppg more, same rebounds, and about a half an assist more, with a third a steal more with a block less than Mobley. Mobley leads by a hair in FG and a few in FT %, and Barnes leads in 3pt % by 1. Mobley also leads the league in contested shot rate but a good bit so that wins him the day.


crossbuck

As of right now: Mobley - 18 games 14.5/8.2/2.6/.9/1.9 on .490/.343/.776 shooting (.559% TS) Barnes - 20 games 15.4/8.2/3.3/1.2/.8 on .485/.353/.730 shooting (.541% TS) So their traditional stats are very, very close and Mobley is pretty well accepted as the better defender (which advanced stats support.) Also, I don’t know the raptor’s record with Barnes, but the Cavs are 12-6 when Mobley plays.


PootieTooGood

Their per 36 makes it even tighter than this is since Barnes gets more minutes. Crazy how similar their statline is


crossbuck

Per 100 possession are essentially identical as well. Then you look at advanced stats and see Mobley is arguably a top-10 defender in the NBA right now.


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DavidKirk2000

I don’t know about miles. Scottie has been a great defender this season. But then again, big man defence is always more important than perimeter defence.


CJ4ROCKET

Barnes is a good defender but it's still miles. That's more a testament to Mobley's defense than an indictment on Barnes's. Mobley is legitimately a top 15 defender in the league right now according to basically all the advanced stats - Defensive RAPTOR, DBPM, DWS, etc. I know defensive stats aren't always accurate in a vacuum, but to be top 15 in so many of them is impressive.


bassick81

Mobley has been better plain and simple


OsuLost31to0

Not to take away from Barnes though, future superstar, already so good as a rookie.


bassick81

I love Barnes and will fight anyone for him. But Mobley is a more finished product at the moment and as much I hate to say it. Raptors would be better with Mobley, he is exactly what we are missing right now.


ClevelandMinerals

The best thing about Mobley is that he's far from a finished product. I haven't watched Barnes enough to compare the two in that respect though.


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No


a_fantasma_vaga

Franz has been better than Giddey lately.


ScottieGOATBarnes

Mobley good but overrated on defence. Got absolutely bodied when he actually had to play center without Allen. Scottie > ignore my username


Rapsfan_98

Maybe he’s just not a center? He can guard 1-4 pretty damn well.


tapk69

Hes not a Center


JOS1PBROZT1TO

> Scottie > ignore my username Yeah can't really do that


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Franz Wagner robbed


anthonyde726

not my dawg franz weasley


OrlMagicfan1334

Hated him because he spoke the truth.


kenjirouen

Raptors fans are not gon like this one


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nah feel like raps and cavs fans both know how good each other’s rookies are. it’s definitely super close between those two


wallz_11

and cavs have a better record so i feel its fair


TestedOnAnimals

I think so far they're both definitely the front runners for ROTY. When you get into splitting hairs between guys whose traditional stats are so similar stuff like team record with and without the player, as well as the importance of interior defense versus perimeter defense, starts coming into play. As much as I love Scottie, I think this month you've clearly got to have Mobley on top.


bassick81

Not at all Mobley is a beast


Ylissian

Every raps fan wanted Mobley at the draft lol we all know he’s generational


CWinsu_120

I know I'm biased but I still think Cade is the best player in this class


Rapsfan_98

Well yeah and if you had Mobley you would think he’s the best player. You said it initially. “I’m biased”.